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Even though I don't think there's any need for this, at least when it is so little customizable as it is. 07:38:49 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3pre) 07:39:15 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 07:42:29 <Mic> The security category on AIO is also empty. Do we even have an idea what sort of extensions we'd expect to use this? 07:48:44 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3pre) 07:48:59 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 07:48:59 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 07:49:23 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 07:49:36 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 07:49:36 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 07:55:49 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 08:01:21 --> Even1 has joined #instantbird 08:01:48 <-- Even1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3pre) 08:02:00 --> Even1 has joined #instantbird 08:08:56 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3pre) 08:12:05 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3pre) 08:14:44 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-xr [XULRunner 2.0b13pre/20110304030406]) 08:17:17 <-- sabret00the_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) 08:17:27 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 08:21:31 --> mokush has joined #instantbird 08:33:45 --> flo has joined #instantbird 08:33:45 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 08:34:17 <flo> hello :) 08:45:38 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3b1) 09:08:14 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 09:09:46 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 675 to FIXED. 09:09:47 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3pre) 09:09:47 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=675 nor, --, 0.3, florian, RESO FIXED, Sign off transition not starting/finishing 09:15:17 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 09:17:51 <flo> would it be a good idea to include before the respin a trivial patch to silence out this warning: Could not read chrome manifest file '.../Instantbird.app/Contents/MacOS/extensions/{972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd}/chrome.manifest'. ? 09:19:04 <flo> I'm sad I didn't catch it yesterday 09:19:16 <flo> but it's stupid to have that change as the last item in the changelog :-D 09:22:42 <-- yan has quit (Ping timeout) 09:23:40 <-- waynenguyen1 has left #instantbird () 09:26:45 --> yan has joined #instantbird 09:29:11 <-- yan has quit (Ping timeout) 09:33:15 --> yan has joined #instantbird 09:36:08 <-- yan has quit (Ping timeout) 09:39:46 --> yan has joined #instantbird 09:42:09 <-- yan has quit (Ping timeout) 09:44:17 --> yan has joined #instantbird 09:47:30 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3pre) 09:47:32 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 09:47:43 <-- yan has quit (Ping timeout) 09:51:34 --> yan has joined #instantbird 09:54:14 <-- yan has quit (Ping timeout) 09:58:08 --> yan has joined #instantbird 10:01:05 <-- yan has quit (Ping timeout) 10:05:05 --> yan has joined #instantbird 10:13:48 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:13:48 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 10:15:44 <-- FeuerFliege has left #instantbird () 10:19:57 <clokep> Good morning! 10:28:01 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 10:29:22 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 10:31:10 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3pre) 10:31:15 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:31:15 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 10:31:50 <flo> clokep: hello :) 10:33:00 <clokep> Do we just need to include a chrome.manifest in there to silence that? :P 10:33:31 <flo> yes, include an empty file 10:33:42 <flo> that's what was done for thunderbird/seamonkey 10:33:55 <flo> but it's too late, we are building a second set of release candidates already :) 10:34:12 <clokep> Oh, haha. 10:34:16 <clokep> It can be in 1.1 then. ;) 10:34:26 <clokep> Or the third set , when something elese gets messed up. 10:34:42 <flo> pssst, no :-P 10:35:35 <-- yan has quit (Ping timeout) 10:37:45 <clokep> You never know! :) 10:39:08 <flo> we are generating a massive amount of partial update files this time ;) 10:39:26 <flo> for the linux build: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/815 10:40:08 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 10:40:34 <clokep> Wow. 10:41:15 <clokep> The 0.2a1 must just replae every file. 10:42:50 <flo> 0.1.3 and 0.1.3.1 are there too ;) 10:42:57 <flo> and for windows it will go as far as 0.1.2 10:43:44 <clokep> Ah, yes. :) 10:43:57 <clokep> I assume if you want to switch languages you have to do a full install? 10:44:19 <flo> yes 10:45:30 <flo> the list of files currently being uploaded for linux: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/816 10:46:59 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 10:49:54 --> yan has joined #instantbird 10:51:44 <-- yan has quit (Ping timeout) 10:56:10 <flo> too bad that it failed to upload these files :( (I've stopped and restarted it) 10:56:17 --> yan has joined #instantbird 10:56:37 <clokep> Restarted the uplad or the whole build? 10:56:56 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 10:57:17 <clokep> If it was the build you should've snuck that file in there. ;) 10:57:22 <clokep> I hav eto go though! Bye. 10:57:23 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3pre) 10:59:07 <-- yan has quit (Ping timeout) 11:03:10 --> yan has joined #instantbird 11:03:11 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3pre) 11:05:48 <-- yan has quit (Ping timeout) 11:10:11 --> yan has joined #instantbird 11:12:42 <-- yan has quit (Ping timeout) 11:12:52 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 11:13:24 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 11:16:56 --> yan has joined #instantbird 11:17:03 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 11:17:38 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 11:19:23 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 11:20:01 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 11:23:04 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 11:29:36 <-- waynenguyen has quit (Ping timeout) 11:33:23 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 11:35:09 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 11:44:08 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 11:46:23 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 11:46:23 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 11:47:53 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 11:50:57 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 11:52:16 --> ig0rk0 has joined #instantbird 11:52:20 <-- ig0rk0 has quit (Quit: ig0rk0) 12:18:01 <-- mokush has quit (Client exited) 12:23:02 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 12:25:13 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 12:33:27 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 12:40:33 --> waynenguyen has joined #instantbird 12:44:27 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 12:44:58 <-- waynenguyen has left #instantbird () 12:49:09 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 12:53:53 * clokep_work is now known as clokep_meeting 12:55:50 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 12:59:35 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 13:06:18 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 13:09:06 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 13:15:18 * flo restarts the Mac build :( 13:16:48 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 13:17:54 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 13:20:38 <flo> The total amount of data uploaded by the linux build is 468M! 13:30:31 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 13:31:21 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 13:58:33 <clokep_meeting> That's a lot of data! 14:00:44 <clokep_meeting> Why'd the Mac fail? Couldn't upload again? :-/ 14:01:14 <flo> kernel panic -> reboot 14:02:17 <flo> and Windows failed because of some missing files (trivial mistake, fixed) and then failed again because its disk is full. Even is currently retriggering by hand only the final steps. 14:03:57 <clokep_meeting> The phrase "kernel panic" always makes me laugh. :) 14:04:07 <clokep_meeting> Seems like none of our builds ever go smoothly. :( 14:05:15 <flo> if we had better hardware with lots of disk space rather than crappy VMs and second hand macs, and good enterprise qualify internet connections rather than crappy "home" ones, things would work right much more frequently ;) 14:05:42 <flo> *quality 14:08:55 <clokep_meeting> Fair enough. 14:09:34 <flo> by the way, the kernel panic of the mac machine have always happened (since I own that machine). It's random, about once a month (enough to be annoying, not enough for any attempt to locate which of the memory chips are faulty to be successful). 14:14:48 <clokep_meeting> Ah, I had something similar on my old desktop. It turned out to be the memory slot though (well something on the mother board). 14:16:02 <flo> if we knew which slot is faulty, we could just use another ;) 14:16:45 <flo> there are lots of them. I think that machine was designed to support up to 16GB (which was a huge amount in 2004 or 2005 when it was new) 14:17:25 <clokep_meeting> Move them all to new ones. :-D 14:17:47 <flo> with brand new memory modules? 14:17:52 <flo> just to be sure? :) 14:18:06 <clokep_meeting> Aka, jus tbuy a new computer. 14:18:11 <flo> there are currently 2.5 GB installed 14:18:34 <flo> I wondered if buying 4GB (and removing the 4 existing modules) would help get us faster (and more reliable builds!) 14:18:53 <clokep_meeting> Perhaps. :) RAM is relatively cheap too. 14:18:54 <flo> but yeah, buying a computer that could run 10.6 and build 64bit versions would be useful 14:19:28 <clokep_meeting> I have 4 GB and my build completes relatively fast (for Windows), but that might also have to do w/ my SSD and Core i7 processor. ;) 14:19:45 * clokep_meeting has been meaning to buy another 4 GB stick... 14:20:01 <clokep_meeting> Did you ever update the Roadmap on the wiki btw? ( I thought you had said something about editing...) 14:20:12 <flo> I haven't 14:20:36 <flo> I'm currently trying to write a blog post about all the changes in the contact list 14:21:02 <clokep_meeting> Ah OK. Let me know if you need proof reading. 14:21:15 <flo> thx :) 14:23:57 <-- sabret00the has quit (Quit: Leaving) 14:26:49 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 14:37:48 <igorko> when releasing? 14:38:08 <flo> when ready 14:39:05 <igorko> i see :) 14:39:22 <igorko> i noticed just today that ff5 is out :) 14:42:27 <flo> it's hard to explain contact merging without having a word for "buddy" 14:43:03 <clokep_meeting> Yes. :-/ 14:43:35 <clokep_meeting> Well, a buddy is like a phone #, and each contact can have multiple buddies (i.e. phone #s) ;) 14:43:50 * clokep_meeting is thinking about the IRC blog post as well a bit. 14:43:57 <clokep_meeting> IRC / extensions / whatever. 14:44:06 <flo> "buddy" is no where in the UI, so I would rather not use that word at all 14:44:21 <flo> (or when it is, it's a mistake that we should fix after the release) 14:44:37 <flo> I suspect in some locales "contact" and "buddy" have been translated with the same word anyway 14:45:15 <clokep_meeting> You could use "screenname" or "username" or something? Maybe? :-/ 14:45:37 <flo> screenname is AIM specific 14:45:52 <flo> on most protocol it's an email address or a number 14:46:18 <flo> I'm going with "way to contact the person", which is irritatingly long 14:49:53 <clokep_meeting> Right. Yeah that's pretty long. 14:53:02 <flo> http://typewith.me/OoTuliOGtv 14:53:03 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 14:53:23 --> harlock1 has joined #instantbird 14:56:13 <-- harlock1 has quit (Ping timeout) 14:56:35 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 14:57:50 <flo> and now of course I need to fix fake for the screenshots :-/ 15:01:06 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 15:03:04 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 15:08:05 <clokep_meeting> flo: Good luck! I made some changes, nothing major. Except the terminology is a bit confusing in parts I think. 15:08:08 <clokep_meeting> I'm not sure there's a way around that. 15:08:45 <flo> I'm trying to create a staging website to display what I'm working on for 0.3/1.0 15:17:04 <igorko> hm i see in roadmap this for 0.3 :Add a notification (systray) icon 15:17:18 <igorko> and we have icon but not notification 15:17:49 <clokep_meeting> igorko: Whether it's on the roadmap or not, nothing new is being added. 15:17:59 <clokep_meeting> And that's meant to be read as "notification icon" or "systray icon". :) 15:18:15 <igorko> these two are different things 15:18:55 <flo> they are not :) 15:19:44 <igorko> notification icon means that it should notify about something. Does it? 15:20:13 <flo> well, ok... 15:20:25 <flo> I'll fix the roadmap later :) 15:20:56 <igorko> anyway notifications are implemented :) 15:21:19 <igorko> but i also wish to have buddy status ;) 15:22:01 <flo> feel free to add that :) 15:22:37 <igorko> i'm noob in coding ;) 15:22:54 <flo> beginning is the best way to start ;) 15:22:58 <igorko> i know it "fundamentally" 15:23:00 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 15:24:21 <clokep_meeting> igorko: Sure a notification is a different thing, but those icons (near the clock) are both known as "system tray icons" and "notification icons" (since they can create notifications), we don't currently create any, but the terminology is still a "notification icon" to some. 15:24:43 <igorko> agree 15:24:55 <igorko> that's why roadmap sucks :) 15:25:06 <clokep_meeting> Buddy Status doesn't use the notification icon to do notification anyway. ;) It uses the toaster pop ups. 15:27:22 <clokep_meeting> And yes, roadmaps suck. :-/ Unfortunately it's what users always ask about. 15:27:51 <clokep_meeting> Bah I don't like where this entry is going. I'm going to trash it. 15:29:32 <clokep_meeting> I'll just look at the FAQ instead! :) 15:30:53 <flo> it's too bad users don't complain for unexpected events 15:31:32 <flo> we offered (without knowing about it) major updates today from 0.2 to 0.3b1 to 72 users. 15:31:48 <clokep_meeting> :( 15:31:54 <clokep_meeting> Good thing that 0.3b1 is stable. 15:31:59 <flo> right! 15:32:07 <clokep_meeting> Has that been occurring since 0.3b1 was released?! 15:32:10 <flo> I've stopped the update service 15:32:38 <flo> no, since Even emptied and recreated the major update table this morning when we attempted to have partial update files for 1.0 release candidates 15:33:09 <clokep_meeting> Ah, OK. Well they'll get a nice surprise then. ;) 15:33:21 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 15:33:34 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3b1) 15:33:40 <flo> note sure if we should post a "we are sorry" thing on the blog or just ignore it 15:35:11 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 15:35:39 <flo> I've stopped all updates for now 15:39:52 <clokep_meeting> Right. 15:40:55 <flo> here is the log of all mistakenly downloaded updates: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/819 15:41:08 <flo> (49) 15:50:52 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 15:52:09 --> harlock1 has joined #instantbird 15:52:40 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 15:53:55 <-- harlock1 has quit (Ping timeout) 15:56:40 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 15:58:28 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 16:02:48 <-- Even1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3pre) 16:08:34 <flo> ok http://www-staging.instantbird.com/ 16:08:54 <flo> this auto-updates at each commit on the repository 16:09:07 <clokep_meeting> Nice. :) 16:09:24 <clokep_meeting> The FAQ looks OK btw, Idk what we'd say about Twitter in it... 16:13:52 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 16:15:40 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 16:38:05 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 16:39:29 <flo> it's fun to play with Fake 16:39:32 --> harlock1 has joined #instantbird 16:39:51 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 16:39:55 <flo> you can invent new friends, completely mess up the buddy list, etc... have a perfectly ordered list :) 16:40:26 <clokep_meeting> Isn't the list perfectly ordered anyway? ;) 16:41:22 <-- harlock1 has quit (Ping timeout) 16:41:44 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 16:41:53 <flo> clokep_meeting: people there all have a display name that makes sense ("their" first name) :) 16:42:21 <clokep_meeting> Ah. 16:43:33 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 16:47:03 <flo> clokep_meeting: "[is this supposed to say tags?]" not sure. We can't "move" a contact out of a tag anyway ;) 16:47:39 <flo> that could be read as moving them on the server (especially in the facebook case) 16:47:42 <flo> I think group is ok 16:47:54 <clokep_meeting> True. 16:47:56 <clokep_meeting> OK. :) 16:47:56 <flo> uh, it has just disappeared ;) 16:49:24 <flo> "Any contacts which haven't been associated with any" is "contact" really plural here? 16:51:47 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 16:52:17 <flo> "[is "accounts" the proper term here?]" do you have a better one? :) 16:52:33 <flo> "buddy" :-P ? "items" ? 16:52:56 <clokep_meeting> Yeah, I don't know. 16:52:59 <clokep_meeting> Accounts works OK. 16:53:08 <flo> I think the screenshot will talk 16:53:22 <clokep_meeting> Yup. 16:53:23 <flo> or at least, people will look at it instead of the end of the sentence 16:53:32 <clokep_meeting> I played with the "Any contacts" bit some more... 16:54:04 <flo> s/Any contacts/Contacts/ ? 16:56:04 <-- skeledrew has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3pre) 16:56:46 <clokep_meeting> Yes, it can be written that way now. :) 16:57:07 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 16:58:02 <clokep_meeting> Should that be "with a special "Other Contacts" tag" instead of "in a"? 16:58:14 <clokep_meeting> It's my understanding you can't really be "in" a tag, since it's not a group. ;) 16:58:23 <clokep_meeting> Why is this such a hard concept to explain? :P 16:58:34 <flo> it's a group and a tag 16:58:55 <flo> it's hard to explain because words are overloaded ;) 17:00:48 <clokep_meeting> Yes, which doesn't really work well. :) 17:05:56 <flo> ready to post? :) 17:06:07 <-- yan has quit (Ping timeout) 17:06:25 <clokep_meeting> I didn't see anything else to change. :) The pictures will help it a lot. 17:06:38 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 17:06:45 <flo> they are not as great as I would like 17:06:53 <flo> it's hard to screenshot popup menus 17:07:27 <flo> and I would have liked to have some tooltips but that's even harder (the hotkey to screenshot hides them, so the only way is to screenshot with a timer...) 17:07:48 <clokep_meeting> Right. :-/ 17:08:02 <clokep_meeting> Well hopefully it gets people trying some stuff with them. 17:08:24 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 17:09:22 <flo> http://blog.instantbird.org/a45-better-contact-list.html 17:09:44 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 17:09:52 <-- rikki has quit (Connection reset by peer) 17:10:00 --> rikki has joined #instantbird 17:10:05 --> yan has joined #instantbird 17:11:12 <-- flo has quit (Input/output error) 17:11:26 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 17:11:50 --> flo has joined #instantbird 17:11:51 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 17:11:56 <flo> boo, crashed :( 17:12:23 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 17:14:20 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 17:15:36 <instantbot> Just appeared in Blog@instantbird.org - http://blog.instantbird.org/ : 17:15:37 <instantbot> http://blog.instantbird.org/n45-better-contact-list.html - Better contact list 17:20:39 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 17:21:54 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 17:22:26 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 17:26:07 <-- yan has quit (Ping timeout) 17:30:06 --> yan has joined #instantbird 17:33:38 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 17:36:12 <flo> Good evening :) 17:36:13 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3pre) 17:36:45 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 17:38:05 --> harlock1 has joined #instantbird 17:38:27 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 17:39:44 <-- yan has quit (Ping timeout) 17:39:53 <-- harlock1 has quit (Ping timeout) 17:42:11 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 17:44:10 --> yan has joined #instantbird 17:45:45 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 17:47:35 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 17:58:23 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 18:03:39 <-- harlock has quit (Ping timeout) 18:05:39 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 18:15:29 --> linuxwizard has joined #instantbird 18:17:42 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 18:18:12 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 18:24:52 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 18:24:52 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 18:25:09 <Mic> good evening 18:25:53 <igorko> hi 18:26:07 <igorko> Mic what about buddystatus? 18:26:18 <igorko> does it work already? 18:26:32 <igorko> gimme gimme ;) 18:28:38 <Mic> I'm still testing it but it seems to work fine so far. No buddy/user icons though .. I can't help but thinking they just look crappy 18:30:01 <Mic> Maybe it's the combination crappy alert-popup-look + usally crappy look of resized user icons that repell me 18:31:39 <Mic> hmm, maybe someone implemented an alternative nsIAlertService that is able to display several notifications/alerts simultaneously but I doubt it .. 18:31:49 <Mic> If it was goodlooking it would be a plus ;) 18:32:36 <Mic> (this was not exactly related to the thing before but alerts hiding other alerts is also annoying) 18:32:54 <clokep_meeting> I doubt anyone ever reimplemented nsIAlertService. 18:33:57 <clokep_meeting> Isn't the user icon the same as it's displayed in the conversaiton though? Size wise I mean. 18:35:05 <Mic> bbl 18:35:10 <Mic> Yes, btw 18:35:32 <Mic> but this doesn't help either :P 18:36:36 <clokep_meeting> Just meant it's ugly all around. ;) 18:43:24 <Mic> haha :D 18:43:36 <Mic> I'm allergic to ugliness ;) 18:47:45 <clokep_meeting> Hah, that's fair enough. :) Just saying most people probably think it looks ok? :) 18:48:52 <-- igorko has quit (Ping timeout) 18:49:49 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 19:07:45 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 19:24:44 <-- igorko has quit (Ping timeout) 19:26:29 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 19:26:30 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 19:32:40 --> flo has joined #instantbird 19:32:40 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 19:35:00 <flo> :( 19:35:08 <flo> timeout on the upload of the mac build :( 19:36:14 <flo> only 7 files were missing :( 19:40:06 <flo> wait. Buildbot *thinks* it has killed the process, but actually the machine is still uploading :) 19:49:01 <clokep_meeting> :) That's good...I think. 19:49:15 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 19:53:18 <clokep_meeting> Bah you can just delete my comment then flo. :P It's practically the same as yours. 19:53:47 <flo> ah, you were aggressively reloading the page to get the comments? 19:54:25 <clokep_meeting> Nope, just happened to notice them while taking a break from trying to read some horrible code here. 19:54:40 <clokep_meeting> But you replied faster. ;) 19:55:17 <flo> I took my time 19:55:28 <flo> but I read the comments way before validating them ;) 19:55:49 <flo> I got busy in the meantime looking at WTF was happening to my dear mac builder ;) 19:56:15 <flo> it sucks that we have such a crappy internet connection in the building of my new office :(. Come on, a timeout of 7200s should be enough... 19:56:33 <-- yan has quit (Ping timeout) 19:58:22 <flo> clokep_meeting: I wondered what that "get ACCESS DENIED" was about 19:58:36 <flo> could it be that this user received a major update prompt? 19:59:11 <flo> I hesitated between saying that if this was what happened we are sorry, or ignoring it because it would be very confusing if this was not the cause :) 19:59:37 <clokep_meeting> That's an awful long timeout, sorry to hear the connection sucks. 19:59:49 <clokep_meeting> I'd guess that they got the update prompt and it denid them. Idk what else it oculd be. :-/ 20:00:43 --> yan has joined #instantbird 20:01:33 <flo> that part doesn't really make sense though. As the part of the update system that I disabled is the one that causes the prompt to appear, not the actual download of the updates. :) 20:04:23 <flo> for the connection's discharge: it has uploaded over 700MB (out of 814) before the timeout. That's already a fair amount of data pushed to the network for an "home" connection. 20:05:13 <flo> it's just too bad they put some standard ADSL plan on a set of offices filled with software developers... 20:05:15 <clokep_meeting> Hmmmm...maybe he tried going to the FTP page? 20:05:56 <clokep_meeting> That just returns a 404 though. 20:07:26 <flo> some people are clever to find incredibly strange ways that they believe to be "normal" to access some files ;) 20:07:47 <flo> it's just too bad they don't explain which "normal" way they picked when they then report an error 20:08:29 <clokep_meeting> PSh, users. Such a pain in the neck. 20:09:07 <flo> yeah, almost as painful as computers 20:09:45 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Ping timeout) 20:17:46 <flo> cool, another issue with the update system :( 20:19:35 <clokep_meeting> What's the issue now? 20:19:45 <clokep_meeting> Bah actually, I need to get going. 20:19:47 <clokep_meeting> Goodnight! 20:23:47 <flo> something related to partial updates that doesn't seem to work when we have several locales for the same buildid 20:24:16 <-- clokep_meeting has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 20:32:19 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 20:59:16 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 21:01:11 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Ping timeout) 21:03:44 <-- yan has quit (Ping timeout) 21:07:48 --> yan has joined #instantbird 21:14:05 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3b1) 21:15:49 --> vicnet has joined #instantbird 21:23:59 <-- flo has quit (Input/output error) 21:25:44 --> flo has joined #instantbird 21:25:44 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 21:35:07 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 21:41:50 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 21:42:07 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3pre) 21:42:11 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 21:42:14 <-- FeuerFliege has left #instantbird () 21:43:08 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 21:43:59 <FeuerFliege> Hi, I get an Error 403 (access denied) when checking for updates 21:55:29 <flo> I disabled the update system until we can fix a serious error in it 21:59:14 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 22:20:43 <-- yan has quit (Ping timeout) 22:25:09 --> yan has joined #instantbird 22:26:16 <flo> FeuerFliege: I've reenabled it except for the 0.2 releases 22:33:40 <flo> the nice thing when hacking Fake is that an additional ugly hack really doesn't matter :-D 22:51:37 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 23:06:35 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 23:06:58 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 23:12:18 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 23:12:41 --> sonny has joined #instantbird