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It's not added either when the view is un-collapsed: 11:41:01 <Mic2> http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/file/081800f32b6c/instantbird/content/contact.xml#l87 11:41:28 <Mic2> As far as I can tell this is the bug I found there 11:46:17 <-- waynenguyen has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3pre) 11:47:55 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 846 filed by email@example.com. 11:47:57 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=846 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Blank spaces when a contact signs off that was in a collapsed group while signing on 11:51:54 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 11:51:54 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 11:54:09 * clokep_work keeps clicking pastebin instead of logs now in the topic header. :( 12:01:25 <-- igorko has quit (Ping timeout) 12:02:16 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 12:04:19 <-- Mic2 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3pre) 12:05:44 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 12:05:44 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 12:12:11 <-- igorko has quit (Ping timeout) 12:14:00 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 12:18:20 <-- igorko has quit (Ping timeout) 12:20:17 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 12:28:01 <flo> clokep_work: you don't have Firefox with its "awesomebar"? 12:28:20 <flo> I usually just type "lo" and it autocompletes to "log.bezut.info/instantbird/today" 12:31:05 <flo> Mic: nice catch! (even though it's a different bug) :) 12:31:44 <clokep_work> flo: At home I just always have the page open and hit F5 :P 12:31:51 <flo> :) 12:32:10 <flo> on my cell phone it's in the bookmarks so I just touch the thumbnail of the log page :) 12:32:23 <clokep_work> Yes, I have "today" and "yesterday" book marked on my phone too. 12:32:27 <-- rikki has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 12:32:35 --> rikki has joined #instantbird 12:53:18 <flo> it would be great to write an add-on to download the page when joining this room, and to automatically integrate the previous messages in the scrollback :) 12:53:35 <clokep_work> Yeah, I've thought about doing it... 12:53:38 <clokep_work> And just haven't haha. 12:55:29 <clokep_work> Let me know if you do. ;) 12:55:42 <flo> it may be easier once the IRC prpl is in JS ;) 12:57:58 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3pre) 12:58:30 <-- Mic has quit (Ping timeout) 13:44:50 <clokep_work> I'm working on it! It'll be done eventually. :) 13:44:56 <clokep_work> I spent some time yesterday modularizing the code. 13:55:40 <clokep_work> So it's quite a bit more readable and hopefully reliable now. 13:55:51 <clokep_work> Also found a few edge cases of things I fixed. 13:55:56 <clokep_work> I highly doubt I pushed it though. :( 14:07:00 <clokep_work> Interesting comments on the Time Bubbles blog entry...I thought it was kind of obvious that we're making something for the "general" user, and specific cases like that might want to tweak things. :( 14:21:35 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 14:27:33 --> flo has joined #instantbird 14:27:33 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 14:36:58 --> Andrey has joined #instantbird 14:55:55 <clokep_work> Did 0.3b1 auto update from 0.3a2 (or 0.2 if previously used a beta) 14:59:42 <flo> from 0.2, no. 14:59:57 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3b1) 15:00:00 <clokep_work> Even if they check the beta update channel? 15:00:02 <flo> 0.3a1/2->0.3b1 can update 15:00:21 <clokep_work> OK. :) 15:01:03 <flo> you mean if they installed 0.2 and then in about:config set the channel to beta? I don't know the result, but do you really think anybody would have done that? :-D 15:02:57 --> mokush has joined #instantbird 15:05:11 <clokep_work> I mean if they installed 0.2beta, wouldn't the channel be set to beta already or do we not do that? 15:06:07 <flo> 0.2beta users received the update to 0.2 final which set the channel back to "release" for them 15:07:36 <clokep_work> Hmm....I don't remember that ever being how it was on Thunderbird/Firefox, but we might have it different. :) 15:07:42 <clokep_work> OK, thanks! 15:08:46 <flo> i've never understood how it worked for Thunderbird/Firefox :) 15:08:57 <flo> and it has definitely changed when the new rapid release thing :) 15:09:25 <-- mokush has quit (Client exited) 15:10:24 <flo> is anybody interested in attempting to debug mintrayr crashes? http://crash-stats.instantbird.com/report/index/3da6d4c5-a12b-4142-bbaa-255ad2110615 15:10:28 <clokep_work> Haha, yes. Of course. :) 15:11:00 * clokep_work wouldn't even know where to begin. :-/ 15:14:20 --> mokush has joined #instantbird 15:15:00 <-- mokush has quit (Client exited) 15:22:20 * flo wonders if there's still anything worth looking at on https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Roadmap:0.3 15:22:24 <flo> (I still have that tab open) 15:23:05 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 15:23:05 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 15:26:51 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 15:27:21 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 15:28:43 <clokep_work> I'm not sure. :-/ 15:44:28 <clokep_work> I updated it to add some more check marks. :P 15:44:57 <clokep_work> None of them I see as 100% necessary. 15:45:03 <clokep_work> Except the fix excessively annoying bugs. ;) 15:45:11 <Mic> I added some stuff to the notifications list, I'll do some more on it later today 15:45:23 <Mic> (while we're talking about the wiki;) 15:45:35 <flo> clokep_work: "Localizable website" is actually necessary ;) 15:45:43 <flo> clokep_work: you forgot the check mark on "Use glass on aero (bug 620 - wanted beta) " 15:45:46 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=620 enh, --, 0.3b1, benediktp, RESO FIXED, Use Glass on Aero (Windows Vista and 7) 15:47:44 <clokep_work> Ah, yes. I skipped that section. 15:48:17 <clokep_work> Mic: Did you add it to Mook's trunk notifications page? 15:48:23 <Mic> Yes 15:48:29 <clokep_work> Good. :) 15:53:09 <flo> doesn't this icon look better than what we currently have for the IRC protocol plugin? http://adium.im/images/services/icon-irc.png 15:54:30 <Mic> Our other icons are flat while this one is foreshortened 15:54:44 <clokep_work> IRC is just the little bubble, right? 15:54:58 <clokep_work> Ithink IRC could use a better icon, but I'm not sure that one is it. :-/ 15:55:12 <Mic> The two/three grey bubbles 15:55:28 <Mic> (not the single-bubble-icon that we have to start chats) 15:55:39 <Mic> *two bubbles 15:55:54 <Mic> (three are MUC's in general?) 15:57:51 <clokep_work> I think so, yes. 15:59:45 <Mic> Sorry for OT posting, but I'm once more impressed by WolframAlpha: 15:59:55 <Mic> It answers things like "((8900 Forint) to Euro (Feb 2005))" 16:00:26 <clokep_work> Haha, that's pretty neat. :) 16:01:03 <clokep_work> Too bad there isn't a real logo for IRC, that'd make it easy. :-D 16:06:07 --> mokush has joined #instantbird 16:06:50 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 16:32:57 <-- Even has quit (Connection reset by peer) 16:38:11 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Connection reset by peer) 16:38:36 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 16:42:08 <flo> editing HTML+CSS code is painful :( 16:45:26 <clokep_work> Website stuff? 16:46:01 <flo> yeah, I'm trying to update the fontpage 16:47:09 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 16:47:23 <flo> floating blocks are tricky ;) 16:47:33 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 16:49:29 <clokep_work> Yes, they can be. 16:55:31 * clokep_work wonders what on the front page is floating. 16:55:36 <clokep_work> Seems rather grid like to me. :) 17:03:40 <flo> "table" is deprecated in HTML when used for placing boxes ;) 17:08:17 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 17:09:51 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 17:13:41 <clokep_work> Hah, touche. But you can just put two divs next to each other w/o floating them I believe. 17:14:33 <flo> I don't think so (or maybe with display: inline and a fixed width?), but anyway, I'm not trying to change it completely ;) 17:16:13 <clokep_work> I don't remember. HTML is so frustrating haha. 17:16:52 <flo> I'm looking for a "tweet" button and the same for facebook 17:16:57 <flo> (both at the same size) 17:18:20 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 17:19:23 <clokep_work> Does Twitter & Facebook not provide those? 17:19:32 <flo> I don't know :) 17:31:02 <flo> http://queze.net/goinfre/ib.com-0.3-WIP1.png thoughts? :) 17:31:43 <clokep_work> Looks good! :) 17:31:47 <clokep_work> Do the icons have tooltips? 17:32:20 <flo> yes :) 17:32:49 <flo> I added the prpl icons, the "share" line, and the RSS icon (which is a link, of course) 17:34:13 <clokep_work> Yup, looks nice. :) 17:34:22 <clokep_work> That will close a bug too. ;) (The RSS icon I believe has a bug.) 17:37:24 <igorko> 1.0 ? maybe 0.3 for now? ;) 17:37:40 <flo> it's $latest_major_version; anyway ;) 17:38:25 <flo> hmm, or 0.2 17:38:28 <igorko> so you are hiding 1.0 from us? :p 17:38:55 <flo> except the "twitter" icon in the list of protocols, it seems all these changes can go live now, even without releasing 17:39:55 <clokep_work> if $latest_major_version > 0.2 around the twitter icon? ;) 17:40:31 <flo> I can just remove (or comment) that line, and change it again with the commit that will add 0.3 stuff 17:41:04 <clokep_work> That works too! :) 17:41:22 <flo> do you think I should push these changes today? 17:42:49 <clokep_work> I don't really see why you should wait, unless you want to do some "Let's release and update the website!" deal. 17:44:33 <Mic> Nice, but a bit packed. 17:45:34 <Mic> I'd put some extra space between the connect-to block and the Instantbird logo as well as the never-been-easier block below 17:46:17 <Mic> hmm, I'm afraid it would be problematic with the height of the image :( 17:47:32 <flo> Mic: the problem is we wanted to have the "What's new?" and the "Add-ons" parts have at least their title (and if possible the title of the first item) visible on a standard screen of 800px (lots of laptops have 1280*800px screens) 17:49:17 <igorko> flo do you already have screenshot from win7 with aero? 17:49:29 <igorko> for windows main page 17:49:31 <flo> I think I would prefer having the screenshot under the logo/name (so that it would seem it's the title of the screenshot), and have the blahblah + download button on the right column 17:49:43 <flo> igorko: we don't have any updated screenshot yet 17:49:48 <flo> (for none of the OSes) 17:50:01 <igorko> i don't have Aero :( 17:50:13 <igorko> so anyone make cool aero screenshot please 17:50:28 <Mic> igorko: there'll be Aero screenshots! :) 17:50:37 <flo> once we have decided what's going to be screenshot, we will do our best to have the exact same thing taken from XP, Win-aero, Mac OS X, and "current" ubuntu. 17:51:35 <flo> I looked quickly and it seems we can just update the current screenshots, + add one of an expended contact 17:52:17 <-- rikki has quit (Connection reset by peer) 17:52:24 --> rikki has joined #instantbird 17:52:57 <clokep_work> That should make it pretty easy then. 17:53:25 <flo> that still means I should fix fake to be able to display contacts with several buddies ;) 17:53:47 <flo> as they are now visible in the contact list, we should ensure some of the displayed contacts have a status text 17:56:56 <clokep_work> Ah, yes. :) We should do that. 17:56:57 <-- Andrey has quit (Quit: ) 18:10:02 <flo> http://instantbird.com/ 18:11:40 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3pre) 18:12:12 <clokep_work> Isn't it Yahoo! Messenger? ;) 18:14:16 --> Even has joined #instantbird 18:14:16 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 18:14:32 <Mic> With Firefox 4, bookmark bar and Appbutton (no menubar then) you barely can see the top of the rss icon on 1366x768 btw 18:15:10 <Mic> I think it would be good if the Coming-soon-text would go away with no replacement then 18:15:40 <Mic> That would make the icon fully visible (I think 1366x768 is also quite popular) 18:16:40 * clokep_work can see plenty on his 1920 x 1080 screen. ;) 18:17:03 <Mic> hehe, /me too 18:17:20 <-- Even has left #instantbird () 18:21:06 --> linuxwizard has joined #instantbird 18:24:52 <-- mokush has quit (Ping timeout) 18:33:20 --> mokush has joined #instantbird 18:38:38 <clokep_work> Also...who uses the bookmarks bar? ;) 18:40:00 <Mic> Isn't it shown by default? 18:40:30 <Mic> And ofcourse I do _not_ use the bookmarks bar ;) 18:46:29 <clokep_work> I don't think it is starting in Fx 4. 18:58:16 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 19:05:31 <Mic> bah, even more tld's :( I start to wonder if a category based system would have been a better idea 19:09:07 <clokep_work> "category" based? 19:09:18 <clokep_work> I just wish they had put the addresses as the creator wanted... 19:09:31 <clokep_work> scheme://tld.domain.subdomain.etc. 19:13:05 <Mic> naa, a bit of rtl for everyone ;) 19:13:19 <Mic> I can explain the categories later, gtg 19:13:42 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3pre) 19:14:01 <clokep_work> Haha, I just don't like that it's rtl for domains and ltr for the directories in a domain. :P 19:23:44 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 19:40:56 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 19:42:32 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 20:08:30 <-- mokush has quit (Client exited) 20:15:00 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 20:18:27 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 20:38:23 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 20:38:39 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: get satisfied! 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