#instantbird log on 06 19 2011

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08:24:16 <Mic> Good morning
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08:28:43 <Mic> I wonder if we should try to have the same shortcut for the account manager on all locales, it's confusing if you switch between them (most likely not common behaviour, I admit)
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10:16:42 <FeuerFliege> good morning
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13:57:25 <Mic> Hi
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14:42:05 <clokep> You know...Idk if I ever tried signing off Twitter before, so I'm not sure if this behavior is actually new or not...
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15:20:45 <FeuerFliege> hi, is it possible that there are two (or more) IRC quit strings and not all of them are localized?
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15:26:01 <FeuerFliege> if someone pings out or gets an error I get: „Beendet: Ping timeout: 255 seconds“ or „Beendet: Read error: Connection reset by peer“
15:26:59 <FeuerFliege> But if someone quits I get: „Quit: Blabla quit message bla“
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15:40:01 <clokep> FeuerFliege: Yes, it's possible.
15:40:20 <clokep> I can check in a second.
15:44:22 <clokep> Looks like this: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/libpurple/protocols/irc/msgs.c#68
15:54:53 <FeuerFliege> ah, ok. So this messages are probably sent directly from the IRC server with “Quit: ” (first if statement)?!
15:57:06 <clokep> That's the idea, if it's not there it prepends it, although I don't really agree that it should be.
16:03:57 <FeuerFliege> clokep: Hm, perhaps I shouldn’t translate Quit at all
16:05:01 <clokep> I'm not sure.
16:05:14 <clokep> It's probably sometimes used as a technical term.
16:05:18 <clokep> As part of the protocol.
16:05:30 <FeuerFliege> The message is usually in English and if Quit is shown untranslated in many cases, there is no point in translating the rest.
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16:44:09 <DGMurdockIII> you shold look in to this http://allmyapps.com/
16:44:19 <DGMurdockIII> http://developers.allmyapps.com/
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19:28:17 <Mic> Setting custom icons for contacts would be nice e.g. for users that don't have set one themselves, to set one that fits better when scaled to smaller sizes or only to replace something inappropriate
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19:42:22 <clokep> Mic: Would also be nice for chat rooms! (And we should hard code #instantbird ;))
19:52:20 <Mic> I'll file an RFE :)
19:57:19 <clokep> The MUC one is filed already.
19:57:31 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 845 filed by benediktp@ymail.com.
19:57:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=845 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Allow to locally change icons of contacts (should also include chatrooms)
19:59:06 <Mic> Ah, too late :D
19:59:24 <clokep> It's not exactly the same, I just mentioned it as part of bug 844, but it's really a different bug.
19:59:27 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=844 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, MUCs should be able to have "buddy" icons
20:03:55 <Mic> You midaired me.. I wanted to remove the MUC part from the suggestion/summary since it's really unrelated
20:04:29 <clokep> Haha, Sorry.
20:05:18 <Mic> How could you know? ;)
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20:22:43 <flo> when is the "Quit" message untranslated?
20:24:57 <clokep> I thik the "Quit: " part is sometimes untranslated.
20:30:25 <flo> the only "Quit" string that isn't translated is http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/libpurple/protocols/irc/msgs.c#68
20:31:39 <flo> I wrote that code a while ago because the Mozilla IRC server prepends "Quit: " to all quit messages and I was tired of seeing "quit: Quit: <message>"
20:32:42 <clokep> Ah, OK, then I''m not sure what he was saying. :)
20:32:44 <Mic> bye
20:33:15 <flo> that code is probably not l10n friendly, as if there's a "Quit:" prefix we don't include the localized "quit" :-S
20:34:03 <flo> we could rewrite that to remove the "Quit: " prefix and let the next line of code add the localized prefix
20:34:08 <clokep> Yeah, we could just replace /^Quit: / with nothing and then add the localized part.
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20:35:54 <flo> I'm not sure of how many 0.3-blocking bugs need to be filed for the twitter issues we discussed yesterday
20:36:17 <flo> dos the error 420 thing still occur?
20:36:36 <flo> *does
20:37:21 <clokep> I was still getting it I believe, I'm very concerned about getting messages while "offline" too.
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20:44:06 <clokep> Bah, I can't reproduce that issue w/ my own build (with some debug statements in it). :(
20:46:47 <FeuerFliege> i still get the 420 error after some time
20:47:22 <flo> I'm concerned about being reconnected when changing the status to/from away after having cancelled the automatic reconnection
20:49:10 <clokep> Yes. :-/
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20:52:10 <flo> clokep: I wouldn't guarantee this doesn't happen with libpurple protocol plugins too, by the way ;)
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20:53:11 <flo> I know there are a few edge cases related to the offline status, being disconnected, etc...that aren't handled correctly currently
20:53:38 <flo> too bad I don't know exactly which cases / the steps to reproduce :)
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20:56:28 <clokep> Right.
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21:04:17 <flo> Good night! :)
21:05:14 <clokep> 'night.
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23:11:39 <clokep> People really seem to like the magic copy article. :)
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