#instantbird log on 06 09 2011

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06:01:46 <Mic> Good morning
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06:26:29 <Mic> I jus send my first message to my Windows Desktop :)
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07:24:14 <FeuerFliege> hi
07:24:31 <FeuerFliege> is here someone using twitter with instantbird?
07:35:34 <waynenguyen> FeuerFliege: Yes i'm using it
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07:37:29 <FeuerFliege> waynenguyen: which version of instantbird are you using? With the latest nightly i can authorize the request, but after that i get a message, that the username would not match.
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07:39:01 <FeuerFliege> If i log in twitter.com i can see instantbirds access 
07:39:44 <waynenguyen> FeuerFliege: I also use the latest nightly
07:40:37 <waynenguyen> But don't see the problem though 
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07:41:16 <FeuerFliege> did you create the account with your email adress or with the username?
07:42:25 <waynenguyen> FeuerFliege: With the user name :D
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07:45:53 <FeuerFliege> same error
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08:50:34 <flo> hello :)
08:52:07 <flo> FeuerFliege: this error means that the name in the account name is not the twitter username that you gave authorization for
08:53:41 <FeuerFliege> ok I’ll try again.
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08:56:49 <FeuerFliege> it works now.
08:58:11 <FeuerFliege> I’ll took the username from the twitter settings page and when instantbird asked for authorisation i logged in with my email adress .
09:03:08 <FeuerFliege> flo: thank you very much.
09:03:18 <flo> np
09:03:34 <flo> what was the case that doesn't work exactly? (it may become a frequent question ;))
09:09:53 <FeuerFliege> Username: Foo ; Mail: Bar@foobar.com
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09:10:59 <FeuerFliege> I have created the account with the Username Foo and when I tried to connect I logged in with bar@foobar.com. Somehow that doesn't work.
09:11:36 <FeuerFliege> I did now create a account with the username Foo AND logged in as Foo.
09:11:42 <FeuerFliege> and it worked.
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09:15:02 <flo> I'm surprised that this doesn't work :-S
09:15:07 <flo> thanks for the clarification anyway :)
09:16:23 <flo> (assuming Bar@foobar.com was the email address used to register "Foo" on twitter of course)
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09:22:01 <flo> hmm, what's the "This application will not be able to: Access your direct messages." thing from?
09:25:09 <flo> FeuerFliege1: I just created a Twitter account "testib" in Instantbird and in the authorization popup logged in with "instantbird@gmail.com" (the associated email address. It worked.
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09:56:46 <flo> I can't reproduce bug 790 :-S
09:56:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=790 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Some messages lost during magic copy
10:07:04 <FeuerFliege1> flo: I cannot reproduce the twitter error any longer, strange.
10:07:20 <flo> it probably was a typo at some point then ;)
10:09:19 <FeuerFliege1> flo: impossible! :D
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10:11:47 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 529 to FIXED.
10:11:49 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=529 nor, --, 0.3a3, florian, RESO FIXED, update addons.instantbird.org integration in the add-on manager to follow mozilla 2 changes.
10:11:53 <flo> :)
10:12:31 <flo> and today the spellchecker works :-S.
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10:14:44 <Mic> Maybe we're only white mice on some lab bench and today someone's doing experiments ;)
10:15:18 <flo> hehe ;)
10:16:42 <flo> so the only things left for the beta is to decide how many more locales we want to wait, and the build release candidates and write release notes? :)
10:18:33 <clokep> flo: For direct messages you need to specifically authorize it for them soon I think?
10:18:59 <flo> I just checked the new box on the application settings on the website
10:19:16 <flo> so that new users that authorize us from now on don't have to reauthorize later
10:20:09 <flo> apparently it doesn't revoke all current authorizations, but will just fail with "401 - not authorized" when accessing direct messages and we will need to reprompt at that time for the users that authorized Instantbird before I made the change on their web UI
10:20:45 <flo> that whole thing seems messy and confusing to me :-S
10:20:53 <clokep> Yes. :(
10:20:56 <clokep> Stupid Twitter.
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10:29:59 <clokep> I'm just getting nothing at all on my error console when I'm trying to debug this Twitter stuff. :(
10:30:10 <clokep> And I'm just putting in raw Cu.reportErrors!
10:32:10 <clokep> Also one error that can occur was a "dump" instead of a "LOG", any reason in particular for that flo?
10:33:47 <flo> what are you debugging?
10:35:01 <clokep> The LOG function.
10:37:44 <flo> pastebin?
10:41:55 <clokep> I'm sure it's something silly...
10:42:01 <clokep> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/752
10:42:27 <clokep> (I just cleaned that up real quick, so if it has random Components.utils.reportError in it, that's why.)
10:44:07 <clokep> (Even at the very top of the Log function, if I leave the Services.console.logStringMessage...it doesn't seem to show up.)
10:44:52 <Mic> There's a missing semicolon at the end of the LOGLEVELS object btw
10:45:15 <Mic> *LOG_LEVELS
10:46:21 <clokep> OK. I know it needs a bit more error checking on the getPref part also...
10:48:15 <Mic> That it is possible to define objects as const is something I found out earlier this morning btw ;)
10:48:49 <Mic> Defining like thirty windows constants for my message boxes
10:50:51 <clokep> Haha. :)
10:52:10 <Mic> Do you normally see errors from js modules or do you have catch and display them yourself?
10:53:05 <flo> what's Services.contentPrefs.getPref("purple.debug.", "loglevel"); supposed to do?
10:54:10 <flo> wasn't it Services.prefs.getCharPref("purple.debug.loglevel"); that you wanted to write?
10:56:01 <clokep> Services.prefs is nsIPrefBranch2? https://developer.mozilla.org/en/nsIPrefBranch2
10:56:07 <clokep> It seems to only have observers.
10:56:09 <flo> yes
10:56:28 <flo> "Inherits from: nsIPrefBranch" in the page you linked ;)
10:56:31 <clokep> There is not getCharPref function in it.
10:56:43 <clokep> Bah, could they make that text smaller?
10:56:54 <flo> MDC is not usable ;)
10:56:57 <clokep> Regardless, in my tests the function never gets called at all AFAIK.
10:57:16 <flo> for xpcom interfaces, I look them up directly in mxr ;)
10:58:18 <flo> that API seems verbose to me
10:58:29 <clokep> What would you prefer?
10:58:40 <flo> when writing protocol code, wouldn't you prefer DEBUG, LOG, WARN, ERROR functions?
10:59:12 <flo> without having to specify a nonsense parameter after the message at the end of the function call
10:59:12 <clokep> As four separate functions? Sure, could do that.
10:59:34 <flo> if possible, we should also provide a source code link in the error console
10:59:36 <clokep> I'll give that a try this afternoon then.
10:59:39 <flo> that would make things really useful :)
10:59:55 <clokep> True. :) Do you know if that's possible? :P
11:00:06 <flo> we do it for libpurple errors :-P
11:00:26 <flo> (well, libpurple doesn't, but I force-added that in their code with a bunch of #define :))
11:00:43 <flo> anyway, lunch time
11:01:16 <clokep> Thanks for the help.
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11:48:14 <igorko> hi
11:48:55 <igorko> i got strange issue. I'm getting add-ons description from Firefox but not from Intantbird.
11:49:11 <igorko> from Firefox localization*
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11:55:55 <clokep_work> igorko: What do you mean by that?
11:57:08 <igorko> i opened add-ons window and see description from Mozilla
11:57:31 <igorko> not from instantbird that is located in extensions-discover.dtd
11:58:44 <flo> talking about sidebars and weather add-ons, and saying you are offline?
11:59:29 <igorko> yes
12:00:02 <flo> do you see an error in the error console?
12:00:23 <igorko> no
12:04:45 <flo> uh, the default font size is huge with the uk locale :(
12:05:09 <igorko> yes. Why?
12:05:46 <flo> and the prefwindow is very wide :-S
12:06:11 <igorko> wait- i need to check one bug
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12:07:40 <flo> igorko: http://i.imgur.com/1vhvQ.png
12:08:20 <clokep_work> Is/will addons.instantbird.org be localizable btw? (That that link should be localizable?)
12:08:30 <igorko> hm
12:08:32 <igorko> bug
12:08:38 <igorko> it works ok for you
12:08:48 <igorko> and yesterday it also worked for me
12:08:56 <flo> clokep_work: I think it's designed to be localizable (and was localized at some point)
12:09:03 <igorko> but now i see description from Mozilla
12:09:35 <igorko> i'll update instantbird
12:09:37 <flo> but we removed that. I don't remember why exactly, but it seemed like something we didn't really want to use
12:09:38 <igorko> to head
12:10:08 <flo> add-ons localizations aren't localized anyway, so localizing the web UI doesn't add much value IMHO
12:10:08 <clokep_work> flo: That's strange. :-/
12:10:27 <flo> Even may remember the details
12:10:42 <clokep_work> "add-ons localizations aren't localized anyway"? I'm not sure what that means...
12:10:52 <flo> descriptions :)
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12:12:23 <clokep_work> Oh OK! :) Can't you localize them though and just we don't...? :)
12:12:45 <igorko> flo: try close add-ons window and open it again
12:13:05 <flo> no problem
12:13:08 <flo> (WFM)
12:13:15 <igorko> it was ok for me minute ago. but i reopened window and now it sucks
12:13:47 <flo> clokep_work: that part was designed stupidly. The only person who is able to add localizations for that is the add-on author... who is supposed to speak all the supported languages.
12:13:56 <igorko> veeery strange
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12:16:02 <clokep_work> flo: That's really dumb. Honestly the software would ideally be able to unpack property and dtd files and let other authors put translations up right in it.
12:17:07 <flo> there are lots of huge design errors in remora. It's just one of them. I'm hope the python rewrite is going to fix most of these :).
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12:18:59 <igorko> flo
12:19:11 <igorko> reopen Add-ons window and watch again
12:19:25 <clokep_work> Yup yup, I haven't used the newer site too much. Just to download a few updates, I don't think I've ever logged into it.
12:19:34 <igorko> i can reproduce bug
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12:23:23 <clokep_work> So I was talking to one of my friends (and showed him your blog post) and he likes Instantbird...but wants the tabs on the bottom. (o_O) I found that really strange. Tabs on bottom has never jived w/ me.
12:23:47 <clokep_work> (He found your post interesting btw and is willing to try it again soon from it. ;))
12:24:50 <clokep_work> Apparently Adium has the option though, is that a common thing on Mac?
12:25:07 <flo> igorko: it seems we should set font.size.variable.x-cyrillic to 13 by default for you.
12:25:18 <flo> clokep_work: no :). But Adium has lots of options
12:26:45 <clokep_work> flo: OK, just wanted to make sure I wasn't going crazy! (If that's the only thing that's stopping him...I might need to make a Bottom Tabs to go along with Vertical Tabs though. ;))
12:27:02 <flo> ahah
12:27:03 <clokep_work> His logic was that the tabs are closer to the input box then, which isn't totally ridiculous.
12:27:19 <flo> my Adium isn't really up to date but... the tabs are quite ugly there
12:29:51 <clokep_work> An ugly Mac program?! You jest. ;)
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12:30:16 <flo> clokep_work: it's not made by Apple
12:30:28 <igorko> flo font must be changed in source? Or in locale?
12:30:49 <flo> in our default preference file
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12:31:01 <igorko> ok- you can do it
12:31:02 <flo> does x-cyrillic sounds right to you for your locale?
12:31:29 <igorko> hm
12:31:49 <igorko> i dunno what means x-cyrillic but i know what means cyrillic :)
12:32:40 <flo> clokep_work: I'm a bit biased of course, but I think Instantbird looks better :-]
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12:33:53 <clokep_work> flo: I know it's not made by Apple, but generally still people put a lot of effort into that stuff on Mac. I've never really seen much of Adium so I can't compare. But everyone will need to compare again once 0.3 is out. :-D
12:34:10 <flo> 1.0 :)
12:36:38 <flo> so many menus and menu items
12:36:52 <flo> there are even 2 "Affichage" (French for "View") menus :)
12:38:01 <flo> clokep_work: there's an option display tabs on: top/bottom/left/right
12:38:23 <clokep_work> Right.
12:38:27 <clokep_work> Pidgin has that as well I believe.
12:38:41 <clokep_work> (It has at least top and left, hence why I wanted them on the left. ;))
12:38:49 <flo> ok :)
12:39:26 <clokep_work> He also mentioned wanting to wait till 1.0 is out. :(
12:39:28 * clokep_work hates version #s.
12:39:52 <flo> he won't wait for that long ;)
12:41:42 <flo> clokep_work: I think tab on bottoms make a lot of sense if you interact with the input box with the mouse, to focus it for example. This way, the tabs (which are often used with the mouse) are very close to the input box.
12:42:32 <clokep_work> Yeah, I think that must be what he does. I just didn't think of that until he told me since I always Ctrl+Tab.
12:42:35 <flo> of course, one you notice that switching tabs automatically focuses the textbox in the newly selected tab (in both Instantbird and Adium), this point is moot.
12:42:50 <clokep_work> Haha!
12:42:54 <clokep_work> I'll have to point that out to him.
12:44:06 <flo> another more sensible reason for wanting the tabs close to the input box is that this way, you see who you are writing too. (with a big window, when the eyes are focusing on the input box, the top of the window is out of sight)
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12:44:39 <igorko> flo http://a0.sderni.ru/381826-bugzz.7z
12:44:49 <igorko> bug reproduced in en-US
12:44:59 <flo> a .7z file?
12:45:22 <igorko> it's compressed avi
12:45:37 <igorko> file is small
12:45:46 <igorko> produced withcamstudio
12:45:53 <flo> if it's not possible to open it, the size doesn't matter ;)
12:46:02 <igorko> why not?
12:46:10 <rikki1> flo its a 7zip file
12:46:15 <clokep_work> 7-zip doesn't exist for Mac.
12:46:16 <igorko> make zip? rar?
12:46:18 <flo> right, and then?
12:46:26 <igorko> make zip? rar?
12:46:30 <rikki1> extract using 7zip
12:46:35 <clokep_work> (Well not officially, I'm sure there's a port.)
12:46:44 <igorko> rar can work with 7zip
12:46:47 <flo> a plain text description of the steps to reproduce, and a screenshot if something needs to be shown
12:46:59 <igorko> as i said
12:47:06 <igorko> open add-ons window
12:47:11 <igorko> close and open again
12:47:28 <igorko> in second case description will be from mozilla
12:48:21 <clokep_work> Even w/ en-US?
12:48:26 <igorko> yes
12:49:28 <igorko> and you need to restart instantbird to see description from instantbird again
12:50:12 <flo> I cant' reproduce this
12:50:32 <igorko> do you have language pack installed?
12:50:44 <igorko> disable/enable it
12:50:54 <igorko> seems this also matters
12:51:01 <igorko> reenabling i mean
12:51:01 <flo> I have the uk pack installed
12:51:15 <igorko> disable it and try with en-US
12:51:44 <flo> I was trying to fix the font size issue first :)
12:51:47 <igorko> here http://a0.sderni.ru/381828-bugzz.avi
12:52:11 <igorko> as you wish ;)
12:52:12 <flo> after struggling a bit with 7za I managed to extract the file, but thanks
12:52:19 <igorko> :)
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12:55:04 <flo> hmm, another locale where Command+Q doesn't work
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13:04:23 <flo> igorko: whatever I do, I can't reproduce
13:04:53 <igorko> dunno than
13:04:59 <igorko> wft is going on
13:05:22 <igorko> wtf* :)
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13:28:54 <flo> it seems some people are currenty working on a german help page for Instantbird: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Baustelle/Instantbird
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14:12:13 <clokep_work> We should have them translate the website then. ;)
14:19:02 <flo> we should really find someone with good communication skills and some enthusiasm for the project to write the website in the first place ;)
14:19:11 <flo> + post often on the blog :)
14:19:32 <flo> it seems people likes the time bubbles post. Maybe I should write about the magic copy feature too :)
14:23:57 <clokep_work> My friend thought that was really cool, has it always been doing that though?
14:24:08 <flo> what?
14:24:14 <clokep_work> But yes, posting should be done more often.
14:24:27 <clokep_work> The magic copy, was that recently added?
14:24:39 <flo> it was added about a month after the message theme system
14:24:55 <flo> I hate not being able to copy/paste, so we would have been stuck with "Simple" without that ;)
14:25:07 <clokep_work> Yeah it's definitely useful. :) I never really noticed that it was doing it since it "just worked".
14:25:18 <flo> so it was already in 0.2
14:25:27 <flo> yeah, exactly. It just works.
14:25:49 <flo> copying is a painful point of Adium ;)
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14:30:22 <clokep_work> :)
14:30:49 <clokep_work> Is Neil (who commented) one of the Neils from Mozilla? (Isn't there a flock of them?)
14:31:17 <flo> I don't think so (or he would have put a more explicit identification I assume)
14:31:27 <flo> but that Neil commented on a few previous blog post
14:31:39 <flo> so he seems to be a happy user who follows our blog closely
14:32:31 <clokep_work> Ah, I see. :)
14:35:45 <clokep_work> (I'm not sure if this should be directed at Even or not...) but is there any chance of looking at being able to upload extensions to addons.instantbird.org before the beta release? I wouldn't like any of my users to be left hanging / disappointed when they update.
14:38:02 <flo> I tried to motivate him yesterday about this
14:38:35 <flo> he said he was tired and we should talk tomorrow (=today) ;)
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14:47:51 <clokep_work> Tired? He's gotta stop going out partying or something. ;)
14:48:20 <flo> yeah, he explained he ate too much at a party held at Microsoft's building ;)
14:50:48 <clokep_work> Haha.
14:51:09 <clokep_work> I'd say I'd buy him a beer for fixing it...but I think that'd be rather difficult for me to do all the way over here.
14:51:28 <flo> clokep_work: + as far as I know, he doesnt drink alcohol :)
14:51:46 <clokep_work> How am I supposed to bribe him then?!
14:51:59 <flo> hmm, not sure
14:52:09 <flo> maybe tell him his kitten is lovely? :)
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15:09:25 <clokep_work> Haha.
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16:05:23 <flo> "Your add-on was disabled by an administrator and cannot be used. If you have any questions, please email amo-admins@mozilla.org." uh. This may not be the best error message for our add-on website :-/.
16:06:24 <clokep_work> Time to grep for that string! :)
16:06:36 <flo> I was grepping for "uploading file" ;)
16:09:39 <clokep_work> Hah. I hope that found something at least. :)
16:10:17 <flo> it's a gettext localized string ;)
16:10:32 <flo> displayed by http://hg.instantbird.org/websites/remora/file/0dc0cd4ef585/site/app/views/developers/uploader.thtml#l137
16:15:07 <clokep_work> That seems like gibberish to me. :P
16:15:47 <flo> psst, don't give Even pretexts for not looking at it :-P
16:17:58 <clokep_work> I would have guessed itw as more of like a folder permissions problem or something. :(
16:18:35 <flo> the problem is we have absolutely no error message
16:20:15 <clokep_work> Right. :-/ I'm guessing the Mozilla guys that wrote this will say "use Zamboni"?
16:20:39 <flo> what's troubling is that it used to work ;)
16:22:50 <flo> ahah, when I firebug the upload form, I see we receive this on the network:http://pastebin.instantbird.com/753
16:23:28 <clokep_work> That should so have an error message pop up.
16:24:14 <flo> https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/pages/appversions
16:24:56 <flo> so, does it work if I add the stupid 0.3 version number?
16:25:02 <flo> by the way, which version did you use? :)
16:25:58 * flo added 0.3, 0.3.*, 1.0.*
16:27:19 <flo> I'm almost sure that error used to display the message visibly
16:27:52 <clokep_work> It probably did.
16:27:55 <clokep_work> I'm not sure. I'll check.
16:28:15 <flo> now that the version number is supported, the JSON reply is http://pastebin.instantbird.com/754
16:28:23 <flo> and still nothing displayed on that damn upload form
16:28:34 <clokep_work> http://code.google.com/p/vertical-tabs/source/browse/install.rdf#64 which is probably wrong.
16:28:43 <clokep_work> (0.3b2pre)
16:28:59 <flo> ahah
16:29:07 <clokep_work> Does that mean no error?
16:29:07 <flo> Error: JSON.parse Source File: https://addons.instantbird.org/js/developers.js Line: 83
16:29:56 <flo> clokep_work: the upload probably worked, as if I reload the page I see "Time Bubbles" in my list of add-ons
16:31:01 <flo> uh, isn't it the trailing coma at the end of the JSON object that makes it unparsable by Firefox 4 ?
16:31:28 <flo> http://whereswalden.com/2010/09/08/spidermonkey-json-change-trailing-commas-no-longer-accepted/
16:32:55 <clokep_work> Yes, probably.
16:32:59 <flo> ok, at least now we know why it's broken! :)
16:38:15 <flo> http://hg.instantbird.org/websites/remora/file/0dc0cd4ef585/site/app/views/developers/json.thtml hmm, that doesn't help me much
16:41:09 <flo> http://hg.instantbird.org/websites/remora/file/0dc0cd4ef585/site/app/views/helpers/listing.php#l85 sounds "better" :)
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16:55:52 <flo> hmm, do I have an other not-yet-listed add-on to test with?
16:56:05 <flo> (I can't seem to find how one is supposed to delete an add-on from the site)
16:56:44 <clokep_work> I thought on the versions & files page there's a little 'x' on the right side?
16:59:46 <flo> yeah, you can remove the file, but not the add-on
17:00:36 <flo> when after removing the file I try to upload the add-on again, it fails becuase the add-on id is already in the database and I'm supposed to go to the upload a new version form instead (WTF, why doesn't it bring me there instead of saying I should go there?)
17:00:53 <flo> I think the patch I'm currently testing has fixed the bug
17:00:57 <flo> can you try/verify? :)
17:01:04 <clokep_work> I can tonight.
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17:04:48 <flo> will I get Even's beer if it works? (I'm not a huge fan of beers either, btw :-D)
17:05:13 <clokep_work> Gin? Wine? Tequila? :P
17:05:33 <clokep_work> And sure. I'll buy you a beer when I'm in France. ;)
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17:07:10 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org added attachment 705 to bug 825.
17:07:11 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org requested review from raynaudquentin@gmai l.com for attachment 705 on bug 825.
17:07:12 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=825 blo, --, ---, florian, ASSI, Unable to upload new versions of addons
17:09:21 <clokep_work> I'll give it a try when I'm home. I have an XPI pretty much ready to go...though I'l have to change the max version to 0.3b1 or something.
17:09:39 <flo> what about 1.0.* ? :)
17:09:46 <clokep_work> I could do that too.
17:10:03 <clokep_work> By the way you have a 0.3b1pre ap version (which won't exist?) but no 0.3b1. ;)
17:10:22 <flo> really? :)
17:10:40 <clokep_work> https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/pages/appversions :P
17:11:18 <flo> I see it there though :-S
17:12:25 <clokep_work> It's there now.
17:12:29 <flo> :)
17:12:54 <flo> there are 5 references to amo-admin@mozilla.org in the code :(
17:13:01 <flo> couldn't they make that a configuration variable? :(
17:14:24 * flo changes that to contact@instantbird.org
17:15:17 <flo> hmm, or maybe that should be team@ib.org ?
17:16:30 <clokep_work> Probably team.
17:21:47 <clokep_work> Nothing else is blocking the beta, right?
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17:22:21 <flo> building release candidates
17:22:30 <flo> writing the release notes
17:22:52 <flo> adding the file with the list of complete locales and bumping the version number
17:23:34 <clokep_work> OK! :)
17:26:56 <igorko> what is buddyStatus add-on status?
17:28:46 <clokep_work> You'll have to ping Mic for that. But I think he said he has a working version again.
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18:11:02 <igorko> cool
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18:24:45 <instantbot> raynaudquentin@gmail.com granted review for attachment 705 on bug 825.
18:24:47 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=825 blo, --, ---, florian, ASSI, Unable to upload new versions of addons
18:26:20 <Tonnes> hia
18:27:39 <Tonnes> clokep_work: flo asked me if I pushed the nl files yesterday - should/can I?
18:27:57 <clokep_work> Tonnes: Yes, you should. :)
18:28:11 <clokep_work> Is it fully translated?
18:28:33 <clokep_work> You'll get the log back from the builtbot I guess no matter what though.
18:28:54 <Tonnes> it should be, yes.. ok
18:31:03 <clokep_work> Then yup, you should push it. I think flo wants to make a release candidate for the beta in the next couple of days. So...we can't include it if it's not pushed. :-D
18:40:20 <Tonnes> fine ..  I was just wondering if he meant I should not push them yet :)
18:40:27 <Tonnes> done btw
18:40:57 <clokep_work> Nah. I'm pretty sure he wanted you to. Yes, I saw. :)
18:41:05 <clokep_work> Is "Label" still "Label" in Dutch?
18:42:10 <Tonnes> depending on its meaning, yes
18:42:18 <clokep_work> Interesting. :)
18:42:24 <clokep_work> Just making sure you didn't miss a string!
18:43:00 <Tonnes> no prob, I might do a few more small changes
18:47:41 <clokep_work> Alright.
18:47:47 <clokep_work> Looks like the builder is offline though.
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18:50:22 <Tonnes> should it run rightaway after a change then?
18:51:14 <clokep_work> It waits a few minutes I think (in case you make multiple changes right after each other).
18:51:34 <clokep_work> But should have by now. ;) It says there's one pending (offline)...so...I'm guessing it's offline. :-D
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18:59:12 <Tonnes> aii :)
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19:32:14 <Mic> Hi
19:38:07 <clokep_work> Hey Mic, igorko was asking about Buddy Status earlier.
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19:40:53 <flo> Good evening :)
19:40:58 <flo> it seems Even liked my patch :)
19:41:25 <flo> or at least, liked that he doesn't have to look further into that code :)
19:41:28 <Mic> Thanks, I saw it. I think I can release it as is and add buddy icons later.
19:41:59 <Mic> igorko: it will be updated in time :)
19:42:25 <flo> can anyone confirm that my fix for AIO works? :)
19:49:52 <Mic> I the tag-id reliable by the way? That is once I have an id for a tag, it won't change?
19:50:57 <Mic> (In the sense of "I can store it and rely on it to be the same in future sessions")
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19:59:53 <Mic> I wanted to create the tag automatically and localize it at the time of creation
20:00:55 <Mic> Changing its name when the selected locale changes doesn't seem possible at the moment but I guess that's ok for now
20:08:42 <clokep_work> I don't know for sure, but I think the tag-id is the ID from the database, so I would expect it to be constant through sessions.
20:10:59 <Mic> That would be good. I'd store the id of the tag instead of checking its name then (and I'm not even sure if that would be a good idea anyways).
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20:30:33 <Mic> good evening
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20:33:27 <DGMurdockIII> i really need the support for blocking buddies
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20:34:08 <DGMurdockIII> iv been getting spam from webcam chat user on yahoo
20:36:40 <flo> from users you have in your buddy list?
20:37:07 <DGMurdockIII> no
20:40:02 <DGMurdockIII> ones not one
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20:59:28 <flo> if they are not buddies you added, why would it make sense to block them specifically?
21:10:45 <DGMurdockIII> if they keep sending me messages and wont leave me alone and and i dont now who they are
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21:34:39 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 825 to FIXED.
21:34:41 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=825 blo, --, ---, florian, RESO FIXED, Unable to upload new versions of addons
21:36:41 <flo> hmm, I think remora is release-ready :)
21:51:21 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 784 to FIXED.
21:51:23 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=784 nor, --, 0.3a3, florian, RESO FIXED, Use placeholder icon that can obviously be changed for the buddy icon
21:58:55 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/c98535677ad3 - Florian Quèze - Bug 784 - Use placeholder icon that can obviously be changed for the buddy icon (icon by Idechix).
21:58:56 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/ba3794e540c5 - Florian Quèze - Fix the default font size for x-cyrillic ('uk' locale).
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22:52:49 <clokep> Good evening.
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23:02:23 <flo> Tonnes: do you expect the nl translation to be complete with your recent push, or are you waiting for buildbot's feedback to better spot the files with missing strings?
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23:11:09 <flo> anyway, the buildbot slave is back online with the results :)
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