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You needed this not long ago iirc? 07:08:33 --> flo has joined #instantbird 07:08:33 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 07:14:42 --> tymerkaev_away has joined #instantbird 07:24:48 * tymerkaev_away is now known as tymerkaev 07:45:20 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 07:47:50 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 08:17:31 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 08:18:11 --> flo has joined #instantbird 08:18:11 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 08:28:02 <flo> hello :) 08:30:27 <FeuerFliege> Salut! 08:35:48 <FeuerFliege> Is there a way to edit Tags? I have translated strings for it, but I cannot find the right UI menu. 08:35:56 --> vicnet has joined #instantbird 08:39:47 <flo> FeuerFliege: what do you mean by "edit Tags"? You can't rename them, but you can change the tags a contact has in the "Tags" item of the contact context menu 08:39:54 <flo> vicnet: hello :) 08:40:13 <vicnet> bonjour :) 08:41:12 <FeuerFliege> flo: I meant rename a tag. 08:41:26 <flo> it's not possible (yet?) 08:41:57 <FeuerFliege> ok. At least I am not blind. 08:55:38 --> Even1 has joined #instantbird 08:55:58 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 08:55:59 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 08:56:01 <-- Even1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 08:56:13 --> Even1 has joined #instantbird 09:21:57 --> mepine has joined #instantbird 09:36:54 <-- waynenguyen has quit (Ping timeout) 09:50:43 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 09:51:18 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 09:51:18 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 10:11:25 <Mic> Interesting: you can mark conversations as 'unread' in Skype, it will appear in the list of new conversations/messages again then. 10:11:36 <Mic> *they will 10:11:54 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:11:54 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 10:16:29 <clokep> Mic: I tried ChromeBug...and I couldn't figure out how to do anything at all in it. :( 10:16:38 <clokep> But maybe I'll give it another shot. 10:17:32 <Mic> I'm having a difficult start too 10:18:08 <Mic> Now I've seen at least what it's possible to do.. 10:18:23 <Mic> It has nice lists of all xpcom interfaces and classes too 10:26:41 <clokep> Yeah, it definitely seems to be helpful. :) 10:27:42 <Mic> And I did live-editing of CSS on the conv-window already: much better than edit-and-reload ;) 10:31:39 <clokep> Bleh pidgin 2.8.0 was tagged. 10:32:03 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 10:32:34 <-- vicnet has quit (Ping timeout) 10:34:18 --> vicnet has joined #instantbird 10:34:30 <clokep> Hah, I believe this is a fix you made again flo: http://developer.pidgin.im/viewmtn/revision/diff/7835e0863cb2185ab127769ebed15541164cd1dd/with/aad06bbf6f9a5e7fd1f16c72be4af2060e8de4c3/libpurple/protocols/oscar/libaim.c 10:35:30 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 10:47:17 <clokep> Although I suppose you might have tkaen it from there. ;) 10:51:17 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 10:51:25 <-- mepine has quit (Ping timeout) 10:53:12 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Quit: Lunch) 11:07:17 <flo> clokep: they took my fix without crediting me (again). But I don't care, as long as the fix works... :) 11:38:34 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 11:38:34 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 11:39:14 <clokep_work> flo: Ah, I see. I didn't realize you had proposed it to them. :) (Or maybe they just watch our repository? ;)) 11:39:45 <flo> nah, I discussed it with them in details, with explained every step of my tests, showed my fix on pastebin 11:39:52 <flo> -with 11:40:24 <flo> but as I said, I don't care (though others do when it happens to them). 11:40:37 <clokep_work> Yup, as long as it's fixed. 11:41:26 <flo> as long as it works in Instantbird :) 11:41:40 <clokep_work> Haha, touche. 11:41:40 <flo> whether it's fixed in the official libpurple is up to them :) 11:41:51 <clokep_work> Oh I meant to check the add-on manager today before work. :( 11:42:04 <flo> what did you want to check? 11:42:09 <flo> I'm currently hacking the link stuff 11:44:30 <clokep_work> The searching stuff, which should work with the hack you checked in (if I've been following the progress of that bug properly...) 11:44:35 <clokep_work> Although I guess the links still don't work? 11:44:43 <flo> it does work (the search box) 11:44:53 <flo> the links will work in 10 minutes if you r+ my hack :) 11:45:13 <clokep_work> Sure. 11:46:02 <Mic> I tried in the searchbox but it didn't return anything 11:46:08 <Mic> Maybe I need to try harder ;) 11:46:15 <clokep_work> What'd you search for? ;) 11:46:18 <flo> Mic: you need to search on the website first 11:46:24 <clokep_work> It might also only return compatible things? 11:46:49 <Mic> I need to search on the website first? 11:46:50 <flo> and then pick a keyword that is in the title (or description?) of an add-on that is: compatible with 0.3a3pre, not in the sandbox, and not already installed. 11:47:02 <Mic> Ah.. 11:47:21 <Mic> We need to make sure our users know that :P 11:47:27 <flo> "reply" and "nick" are nice keyword, except if you have the 3 add-ons containing them already instealled 11:47:49 <flo> otherwise, you can try "AVIM" (I don't think you have installed that add-on :)) 11:48:33 <Mic> omg, awesome 11:49:43 <flo> hmm? 11:49:49 <Mic> It works. 11:50:02 <flo> I spent the afternoon fixing it yesterday so... yes, it does! :) 11:50:17 <Mic> I installed status reminder and it worked without the restart as it should 11:50:34 <Mic> So it's really great :) 11:51:10 <flo> it's just disappointing that the "Get Addons" pane doesn't work and we are unlikely to fix it "right" :-/ 11:51:35 <flo> I would like it to query the recommanded add-ons like it used to do in 0.2, but I don't know how to do that 11:51:54 <flo> and if we can't do that, I think putting a descriptive text with a link to AIO is the best we can still do 11:53:48 <Mic> Does the rss feed contain enough information about the recommended addons to build an acceptable list? 11:54:28 <flo> you can query the API, that should be easier :) 11:54:38 <flo> all the parsing code is already there 11:54:58 <flo> even the code to make the request is probably there too 11:55:21 <flo> clokep_work: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/742 the hack for the link stuff. 11:55:45 <flo> for reference, the code normally executed is: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/content/widgets/text.xml#297 11:57:16 <clokep_work> Ah thanks. :) 11:57:37 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 11:57:45 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 11:57:45 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 12:00:10 <clokep_work> flo: That looks good, my only question would be what happens if the scheme isn't http or https, it calls the standard open function and then tries the load the URI? (is there a missing return there, is my question) 12:00:22 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 12:00:42 <flo> clokep_work: sure! A return or an else 12:00:57 <clokep_work> Yup, either way. Else probably makes more sense in this case. 12:01:06 <flo> reviews are definitely useful :) 12:01:17 <clokep_work> Also Cc is already defined on that page if you want to use it. 12:01:46 <clokep_work> Wooo I actually found something wrong w/ your code. ;) 12:02:11 <flo> ;) 12:02:54 <flo> for what is worth, the not http(s) case can't happen currently and I thought I could as well make that function just do Cc["@mozilla.org/uriloader/external-protocol-service;1"].getService(Ci.nsIExternalProtocolService).loadUrl(Services.io.newURI(aUrl, null, null)); 12:03:04 <flo> but I would have r-'ed that ;) 12:04:12 <flo> so now I have http://pastebin.instantbird.com/743 12:04:16 <clokep_work> Haha. 12:04:40 <clokep_work> Yeah, I figured it can't happen (the non http(s) case), but since you're loading from a website...it's better to be safe. (even if we control the website too...) 12:04:58 <clokep_work> r+ 12:05:01 <flo> nah, it's all in chrome code 12:05:24 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 12:05:26 <flo> but in the future, we may want to add a special ibaddon: scheme (like adium currently has adiumxtra registered) 12:05:42 <flo> and that will neither be external, nor http(s) 12:05:56 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 12:05:56 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 12:06:05 <clokep_work> True. :) 12:06:24 <clokep_work> (Or we might want to handle adiumxtra scheme if they use it for message styles and convert it on the fly? :P) 12:06:43 <flo> are you volunteering to write the code? 12:08:16 <clokep_work> I think it'd be neat, but currently I'm not volunteering no. 12:08:16 <clokep_work> I'll throw it at the bottom of my todo list. :P 12:09:26 <flo> below the "forget" line? 12:09:36 <flo> :( the spellchecker still doesn't want to work here :( 12:09:36 <clokep_work> Perhaps. :( 12:10:01 <clokep_work> Maybe I should file that as a bug though? 12:10:09 <flo> can you reproduce? 12:10:24 <clokep_work> Not the spellchecking, sorry. I meant the handle Adium themes on the fly... 12:10:36 <clokep_work> I don't remember if my spellchecking is working or not. I don't misspell. ;) 12:10:48 <clokep_work> (I tease, but I think it's been working for me.) 12:10:54 <flo> it doesn't seem to work in any of the auto-joined rooms 12:11:10 <flo> it works well in rooms that I join now or in my IM tabs in the other window 12:12:18 <Mic> It's working for me in both of my autojoined channels 12:12:34 <Mic> (Latest nightly on Windows Vista) 12:13:25 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 12:13:40 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 12:13:40 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 12:14:29 <clokep_work> Yeah, I'm pretty sure it worked OK w/ me too. 12:15:54 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 12:21:20 <tymerkaev> flo: where's buildbot logs? 12:21:32 <flo> tymerkaev: http://buildbot-l10n.instantbird.org/waterfall 12:25:18 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 12:25:19 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 12:29:01 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 12:30:02 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 12:30:02 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 12:37:36 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 12:39:57 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 12:39:57 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 12:42:32 --> waynenguyen has joined #instantbird 12:45:01 <-- vicnet has left #instantbird () 12:49:55 <flo> sometimes I hate CSS... :) 12:55:55 --> G3CK0 has joined #instantbird 12:56:03 <-- G3CK0 has left #instantbird () 12:59:37 --> igo has joined #instantbird 12:59:43 <-- igo has quit (Connection reset by peer) 12:59:49 --> igo has joined #instantbird 13:00:19 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 13:01:06 <-- rikki has quit (Connection reset by peer) 13:01:13 --> rikki has joined #instantbird 13:04:11 --> FireFly has joined #instantbird 13:09:04 <-- igo has quit (Connection reset by peer) 13:11:22 --> igo has joined #instantbird 13:11:26 <-- igo has left #instantbird () 13:14:54 --> igo has joined #instantbird 13:15:06 <-- igo has quit (Connection reset by peer) 13:28:15 --> igo has joined #instantbird 13:31:05 <-- igo has quit (Connection reset by peer) 13:35:46 <clokep_work> I always hate CSS. 13:36:28 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org added attachment 700 to bug 529. 13:36:29 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org requested review from clokep@gmail.com for attachment 700 on bug 529. 13:36:30 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=529 enh, --, ---, florian, ASSI, update addons.instantbird.org integration in the add-on manager to follow mozilla 2 changes. 13:38:03 <flo> hmm, I guess I should add a screenshot 13:39:02 <clokep_work> You ended up needing to put it in a separate XUL doc? 13:39:31 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org added attachment 701 to bug 529. 13:39:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=529 enh, --, ---, florian, ASSI, update addons.instantbird.org integration in the add-on manager to follow mozilla 2 changes. 13:39:42 <flo> I could have put an overlay instead, but in that case I would have had to mess with the js code of the add-on manager 13:40:03 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 831 filed by rodrigo.ortizdelgado@live.com. 13:40:05 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=831 cri, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, IRC disconnects on user input 13:40:24 <flo> I had a hard time ensuring the browser element wasn't visible :) 13:40:34 <clokep_work> Ah, OK. :) 13:40:40 <Mic> WFM :P 13:41:24 <flo> the right ids in the XUL file to reuse the themes of extensions.css + margin: -1 and padding 0 to make the border appear at the right place to just draw the rounded corner and have the real lines hidden under the other existing border 13:41:44 <flo> critical+UNCO is usually a bad sign ;) 13:42:02 --> igo has joined #instantbird 13:42:08 <flo> + 2 line description and no steps to reproduce 13:42:36 <-- rikki has quit (Connection reset by peer) 13:42:43 <Mic> "WFM:P" was my attempt to reproduce it ;) 13:42:44 --> rikki has joined #instantbird 13:43:00 <flo> I think I'm talking in #instantbird without being disconnected ;) 13:43:07 <-- igo has quit (Connection reset by peer) 13:43:21 <clokep_work> We can at least try to see what's causing the issue though. 13:43:42 <Mic> Sure, I'm already asking for more information 13:43:46 <FeuerFliege> I saw this problem once with a other client. 13:44:07 <FeuerFliege> The firefall was the reason. 13:44:21 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com granted review for attachment 700 on bug 529. 13:44:23 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=529 enh, --, ---, florian, ASSI, update addons.instantbird.org integration in the add-on manager to follow mozilla 2 changes. 13:44:26 <Mic> Ok, will ask for his Firewall then 13:44:57 <clokep_work> Yes, firewall, anti-virus, ask if it works in other programs, whether he's connecting securely maybe? and for the error console obviously. :) 13:57:40 <clokep_work> He's timing out? Hmmm... 13:57:53 --> igo has joined #instantbird 13:58:24 <-- igo has quit (Connection reset by peer) 14:18:16 --> igo has joined #instantbird 14:18:25 <-- igo has quit (Connection reset by peer) 14:28:19 <clokep_work> flo: Was I supposed to bother you about that blog post? ;) Not sure if you wanted to post it before the beta? 14:29:37 <flo> I think I wanted to post it last week, then yesterday 14:29:46 <flo> and I need the screenshots for that... so I wanted to fix fake before 14:32:49 <clokep_work> OK. :) Just making sure it was fake we were waiting on. 14:33:46 <flo> I suspect it won't come if we only "wait" for it ;) 14:39:10 --> igo has joined #instantbird 14:39:23 <igo> test 14:39:27 <clokep_work> Hello igo. 14:39:39 <igo> yup...that worked :P 14:39:45 <clokep_work> The SSL I'm guessing? 14:39:46 <igo> the SSL connection works 14:40:08 <clokep_work> Yeah, it's probably your ISP blocking IRC traffic (it's uncommon, but not unheard of). 14:40:19 <clokep_work> Glad it works though. :) 14:40:26 <igo> could you close the bug? :) 14:40:37 <flo> clokep_work: which XMPP command should work in an IM conversation? 14:40:59 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 831 to WORKSFORME. 14:41:01 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=831 cri, --, ---, nobody, RESO WORKSFORME, IRC disconnects on user input 14:41:10 <clokep_work> flo: I had been testing buzz, which I'm not really 100% /should/ work. 14:41:15 <clokep_work> I forget the other one I was testing... 14:41:44 <clokep_work> (I'm trying to find the list of commands, one sec.) 14:41:45 <flo> buzz works with your patch 14:41:46 <clokep_work> igo: Done! 14:41:56 <flo> weren't you saying only the commands with arguments had the issue? 14:42:00 <igo> thanks! 14:42:11 <flo> "16:40:13 - Commands: affiliate, away, back, ban, busy, buzz, config, configure, dnd, help, invite, join, kick, mood, msg, nick, offline, part, ping, raw, register, role, topic." 14:43:06 <clokep_work> flo: Yes, they do. I think I had tried "/join". 14:43:14 <clokep_work> But I'm unsure if that's supposed to work in Google Talk or not. 14:43:30 <-- waynenguyen has quit (Ping timeout) 14:43:30 <-- FeuerFliege has left #instantbird () 14:43:34 <flo> any idea of a test MUC I can join? :) 14:43:35 <clokep_work> I also tried /msg actually. 14:43:39 <-- FireFly has quit (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 14:44:01 <clokep_work> I was trying to join devel@pidgin.im I think? (And also Sonny's) 14:44:29 <flo> it sucks that we don't differenciate commands what work only in MUCs :( 14:44:34 <flo> (for the help message at least 14:44:35 <flo> ) 14:46:56 <clokep_work> Yes, hmm...:-/ I don't think commands tell libpurple if they only work in MUCs though. 14:47:06 <flo> they do 14:47:44 <flo> but it didn't matter until we added the /help command so I haven't exposed that flag in the commands service 14:47:44 <flo> :( 14:52:06 <clokep_work> I'd be willing to give that a try to fix it (if you point me in the right direction. :)) 14:54:20 <flo> post 0.3 14:54:26 <flo> it doesn't matter all that much ;) 14:54:36 <flo> but filing a bug would be a good start, just so that we don't forget :) 14:55:42 <clokep_work> I'll do that after I make some phone calls. 14:55:54 <flo> I'm in the phone call mess too :-D 14:56:03 <flo> phone + emails + text messages on the same subject 14:56:46 <clokep_work> You need to consolidate that or else you'll lose a history of it. ;) 14:57:05 <flo> the history is already lost 14:58:36 <flo> some negociations to allow a crooked lawyer to "steal" us(= the sellers of my grand-parents' house) 9000euros (~ $13 000) happened behind my back already and I'm supposed to approve that now, and "quickly" in addition of that (to ensure I don't read the damn contract I suspect...). 15:01:40 <clokep_work> Bleh. Laywers. :-/ 15:02:00 <flo> worse than reviewing CSS changes ;) 15:02:57 <flo> I've spotted at least 5 huge misspellings in the interesting parts of the 50 pages document, showing that they have clearly rushed out what matters, and neither proof read nor used a spellchecker. 15:03:30 <flo> I should be more specific: 5 misspellings in 5 lines (not in 50 pages, I haven't read all that crap (yet?)). 15:03:49 <clokep_work> That's pretty bad. 15:04:02 <flo> they should respect the coding style ;) 15:06:16 <flo> pfff, their PDF is a printed and then scanned document, I can't copy paste anything in it to make review comments :( 15:20:59 <clokep_work> Bah, yes. I've seen that before. I think they do it on purpose. ;) 15:21:58 <flo> and the other was a .docx 15:25:43 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 15:39:57 --> mokush has joined #instantbird 15:44:12 <flo> clokep_work: /join works in gtalk exactly as in xmpp itself 15:44:39 <flo> it's just that someone in libpurple stupidly restricted "join" to work only in MUCs... 15:45:55 <flo> I've got to go 15:45:59 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 15:46:05 <sonny> :) 15:49:15 <clokep_work> flo: Arg, seriously? That's really dumb. So does my patch work then and I was just using a bad test case? :) 15:49:36 <Mic> :( 15:50:44 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 15:54:24 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 15:54:32 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 15:55:02 <igo> how do I get a channel listing? 15:55:07 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 15:57:40 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 15:57:57 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 16:00:47 --> FeuerFliege1 has joined #instantbird 16:04:15 <clokep_work> igo: You currently can't, we'd like the "Join chat..." pop up to auto-complete, but it hasn't been done yet. :( 16:04:49 <igo> ummm...ok...where do I find a listing for the Mozilla IRC server then? 16:06:08 --> GeekShad0w has joined #instantbird 16:06:16 <Mic> igo: msg chanserv LIST <pattern> 16:06:49 <Mic> e.g. a* as pattern for all channels starting with "a" 16:07:15 <Mic> bye 16:07:18 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 16:07:28 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 16:12:29 <clokep_work> igo: Either what Mic said or check http://irc.mozilla.org 16:12:35 <clokep_work> What are you looking for in particular? 16:13:16 <igo> oh I don't know...a channel to just chat about stuff non dev related 16:18:15 <clokep_work> Oh..hmm....I'm not sure if there really is one. :-/ Most of the channels are dev related or support related I think. But there might be. I don't hang out in that many channels. 16:23:17 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 16:24:02 <igo> hehehehe 16:27:00 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 16:27:01 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 16:30:44 <-- igo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 16:30:48 --> igo has joined #instantbird 16:33:28 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 16:34:42 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 16:34:43 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 16:50:52 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 16:51:46 <-- mikk_s has left #instantbird () 16:53:36 <-- Even1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 16:54:23 <-- igo has left #instantbird () 17:16:52 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 17:23:01 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 17:26:34 <instantbot> New purplexpcom - General bug 832 filed by clokep@gmail.com. 17:26:36 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=832 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Differentiate commands that work only in MUCs for /help 18:07:57 --> Glards has joined #instantbird 18:26:05 <-- mokush has quit (Client exited) 18:30:39 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 18:49:00 <-- GeekShad0w has quit (Ping timeout) 19:24:03 --> linuxwizard has joined #instantbird 19:26:37 <-- FeuerFliege1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 19:26:42 --> FeuerFliege1 has joined #instantbird 19:29:08 <-- FeuerFliege1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 19:29:10 --> FeuerFliege1 has joined #instantbird 19:29:46 <-- FeuerFliege1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 19:29:48 --> FeuerFliege1 has joined #instantbird 19:30:17 <-- FeuerFliege1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 19:30:20 --> FeuerFliege1 has joined #instantbird 19:30:48 <-- FeuerFliege1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 19:30:50 --> FeuerFliege1 has joined #instantbird 19:30:52 <-- FeuerFliege1 has left #instantbird () 19:33:18 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 19:42:27 --> FeuerFliege1 has joined #instantbird 19:42:29 <-- FeuerFliege1 has left #instantbird () 19:47:21 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 19:57:59 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 19:58:24 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 20:03:36 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 20:11:28 <clokep_work> varuna (and flo maybe since Idk if he reads the logs and probably Sonny might be interested): Just saw some talk in #maildev about e4x going away eventually, so might not want to base much on it? 20:13:26 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 20:20:05 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 20:23:00 <clokep_work> Something about a blog post in the last 48 hours about it...but I couldn't find anything. 20:23:35 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 20:24:39 <clokep_work> But perhaps bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=485791 20:24:54 <clokep_work> Time to go though. :) 20:25:09 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 20:32:58 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 20:33:02 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 20:36:38 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 20:41:53 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 20:43:10 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 20:49:51 <-- Even has quit (Input/output error) 20:53:32 <FeuerFliege> I think i killed the buildbot. 20:54:37 --> FireFly1 has joined #instantbird 20:55:08 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 20:55:37 <FeuerFliege> http://buildbot-l10n.instantbird.org/waterfall 20:55:41 <-- FeuerFliege has left #instantbird () 20:56:23 <-- FireFly1 has quit (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 20:56:33 <DGMurdockIII> hi 21:00:04 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 21:00:06 <-- FeuerFliege has left #instantbird () 21:04:53 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 21:18:43 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 21:30:19 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 21:32:48 --> flo has joined #instantbird 21:32:48 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 21:37:45 <flo> FeuerFliege: I would be really surprised if you had any responsibility in the buildbot slave being offline ;) 21:40:25 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 21:45:24 <-- Glards has quit (Quit: Lost terminal) 21:51:41 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 21:51:42 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 21:59:22 <flo> clokep: I'm reviewing the command patch 21:59:36 <flo> with the name "listCommandsForConversation", it's surprising to find that the aConversation parameter is optional :-S 21:59:36 <clokep> flo: Thanks! I'm doing laundry. ;) 22:00:11 <clokep> Hmm....yes, I suppose. Do we also need a "listCommands" function then for the original functionality? 22:00:29 <flo> that's what I'm wondering 22:00:42 <flo> I can't seem to reach a definitive answer for it :-S 22:01:23 <flo> can you imagine a usecase that would make it useful to list all the global commands that aren't related to a protocol? 22:02:12 <flo> I don't see any use for removing the feature either though 22:02:35 <clokep> I can't see why you'd want just the global commands. 22:04:53 <clokep> It wouldn't be hard to add back if we decide we want it either. ;) 22:05:35 <clokep> As in, don't spend too much time thinking about it -- I can just add it back and done. 22:05:55 <flo> could we have kept the original method and just added an optional "ignore global commands" parameter? 22:06:21 <flo> that would reduce the code duplication I think 22:06:56 <flo> and make the first parameter the prplid rather than the conversation 22:07:37 <clokep> Hmmm... 22:08:29 <clokep> That would mess up the bug I just filed about taking into account whether it's a MUC or not. ;) 22:08:55 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 22:08:58 <flo> right! 22:10:41 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 22:14:19 <flo> was there anything there you still wanted to fix, beside the non-existing issue with the parameters? 22:14:32 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 22:14:46 * flo just noticed he was about to r+ a patch without review request :-D 22:14:51 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 22:14:57 <clokep> No, are we doing anything about libpurple being dumb about /join? 22:15:04 <clokep> I didn't r? it since it wasn't working. :) 22:15:24 <flo> well, you can file a bug on Pidgin's trac 22:15:48 <flo> or fix the code for us and then show them the patch for them to take it if they like 22:15:56 <flo> or file a bug in bugzilla 22:15:59 <flo> or just forget about it 22:16:04 <clokep> :) OK. 22:16:10 <clokep> I'll do one of them. ;) 22:16:10 <flo> isn't XMPP going to be in JS soon? ;) 22:16:30 <clokep> Hopefully! Also, (right beofre I left) it seems that E4X going away stuff might just have been a misunderstanding of that bug I posted about. 22:16:47 <clokep> Btw w/ IRC I've been experimenting with having an extendable protocol. Working OK so far! 22:17:22 <flo> that bug was about removing it out of the JS engine and reimplementing it in JS to reduce security risks 22:17:55 <flo> but if sonny is the only user, they may drop it :-P 22:17:57 <clokep> Yeah, someone on #maildev was getting confused I think. :) 22:18:53 <flo> I remember some people a long (months) while ago proposed to drop it, but that wasn't a serious plan, just some random idea thrown around 22:19:59 <clokep> Mmhmm. 22:20:00 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 698 on bug 697. 22:20:02 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=697 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Commands no longer work in protocol overrides 22:20:05 <clokep> Apparently it has a lot of security issues. 22:23:28 <clokep> So, for the better logger stuff....would it be good to haev levels of logging that can be enabled/disabled on a protocol/account level or something simpler? 22:25:21 <flo> protocol sounds like a good plan 22:25:57 <clokep> Also multiple levels (Information, Warning, Error are the only three I thought of, which would do the appropriate thing in the error console), or is that excessive? 22:27:06 <flo> that's a severity level, not a verbosity level :-/ 22:28:04 <flo> would it make sense to reuse http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/app/profile/all-instantbird.js#293 ? 22:28:07 <clokep> Hmm....fair enough. 22:28:17 <clokep> Yes, probably. :) 22:28:33 <clokep> And just have it abide by that preference? 22:30:09 <flo> we can probably add something smarter later 22:30:23 <clokep> OK. I'll go w/ that for now then. 22:30:47 <-- FeuerFliege has left #instantbird () 22:30:51 <flo> like something only in debug builds that would take into account an environment variable to decide which modules are interesting and at which level they should be logged 22:31:21 <flo> working a bit like NSPR_LOG_MODULES :) 22:31:31 <clokep> Yup! 22:31:32 <flo> (what we use for our C++ code) 22:31:33 <instantbot> c++ is evil 22:32:37 <clokep> Simple for now. :) 22:34:30 <flo> hmm, I'm not sure "Copyright=Copyright (c) 2007-2011 Florian Queze" is still the "right" thing to have in application.ini :-S 22:34:53 <clokep> Is there a nonprofit now or not really? 22:34:58 <clokep> I forget how far you guys got w/ that. 22:35:33 <flo> it's to handle the money matters, not the copyright of the code 22:36:10 <flo> the nonprofit is officially created 22:36:45 <flo> but it doesn't have a bank account yet, because we haven't settled on a specific bank (they all seem to have high fees for handling nonprofit accounts :-/) 22:37:00 <clokep> Alright. 22:38:22 <flo> I found only one that's free, but it requres that we have a turnover of at least 10,000euros(~$15,000)/year 22:38:33 <clokep> Yeah...that's a lot of money. 22:38:38 <flo> I'm not sure we can garantee we will have that much money flowing 22:39:16 <flo> yeah, for individuals it's a lot. For a company, it's insignificant. 22:40:03 <flo> (not even half a year of the costs of someone paid at the minimal wage) 22:40:18 <clokep> Right, for a company. 22:41:38 <flo> I would feel bad if the nonprofit ends up paying more per year for the bank account than for the servers ;) 22:49:36 <clokep> :) 22:51:20 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 827 to FIXED. 22:51:23 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=827 min, --, 0.3a3, florian, RESO FIXED, Update copyright year in the about dialog and the credits. 22:52:21 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 697 to FIXED. 22:52:22 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=697 nor, --, 0.3a3, clokep, RESO FIXED, Commands no longer work in protocol overrides 22:53:44 <clokep> flo: Btw for Facebook. I purposefully didn't have it inherit commands since when I looked at them it didn'ts eem it could use any of them. 22:55:14 <flo> I look forward to closing bug 529 22:55:18 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=529 enh, --, ---, florian, ASSI, update addons.instantbird.org integration in the add-on manager to follow mozilla 2 changes. 22:55:24 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 562 to FIXED. 22:55:26 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=562 min, --, 0.3a3, florian, RESO FIXED, 'pref not found' - warning when opening themes pane on preferences 22:55:47 <flo> it has looked scary for a long while, but isn't really that scary any more, now that it's broken in parts and some of them are handled :) 22:56:12 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/a221a47337b3 - Patrick Cloke - Bug 697 - Commands no longer work in protocol overrides, r=fqueze. 22:56:13 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/f586fd4c4b03 - Florian Quèze - Bug 827 - Update copyright year to 2011. 22:56:14 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/2e00b5c94702 - Florian Quèze - Bug 529 - put a XUL page in chrome for the 'discovery' pane of the new add-on manager (+ fix a related pref, see bug 562), r=clokep. 22:56:15 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/71cbaabb817d - Florian Quèze - Fix link opening from the add-on manager window, r=clokep. 22:56:24 <flo> clokep: I understood that :) 22:56:30 <clokep> OK. :) 22:56:48 <clokep> And yeah, I'm glad that that one isn't too bad. 22:57:40 <clokep> Should we email the localization list? 22:58:10 <flo> yes 22:58:14 <flo> it's just too bad there's no list :( 22:58:23 <clokep> Oh. :-/ Right. 22:58:39 <clokep> You can force add people in google Groups if you wanted to, but that's kind of rude. :( 22:58:48 <flo> not yet at least 22:59:15 <flo> I really want to create one, but I haven't decided if that google group should be public or private. 22:59:26 <flo> I don't want to force add people into a group that would get spammed 22:59:45 <flo> and preventing people from writting to it reduces the usefulness :( 23:00:03 <clokep> :-/ Right. 23:00:11 <clokep> What's left for bug 529, it seems pretty done to me... 23:00:14 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=529 enh, --, ---, florian, ASSI, update addons.instantbird.org integration in the add-on manager to follow mozilla 2 changes. 23:00:18 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 23:02:01 <flo> https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/attachment.cgi?id=701 isn't there a spelling mistake in the strings? 23:02:19 <flo> shouldn't "extension" be plural in the first paragraph? :-/ 23:02:39 <flo> clokep: checking that add-on updates work 23:03:56 <clokep> flo: It should be, yes. 23:04:11 <flo> who reviewed that patch? :-P 23:04:49 <clokep> Oops. :( 23:06:04 <clokep> My bad, sorry. 23:07:17 <flo> another nice benefit of reviews is that it's possible to share responsibility for the crap we do ;) 23:08:07 <clokep> Haha. :) Yes. 23:20:39 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 23:23:47 <flo> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/744 (draft of email to localizers) 23:30:26 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 23:48:25 <-- flo has quit (Input/output error)