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00:04:26 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Ping timeout) 00:17:30 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 00:18:05 <DGMurdockIII> orry buy power surge 00:18:23 <DGMurdockIII> a storm i think is comming this way 00:19:10 <DGMurdockIII> fuck i forgot to bookmark somthing that you guy had to see 00:19:39 <DGMurdockIII> did you hear about the skype protocall being reverse enganeered 00:32:57 <clokep> DGMurdockIII: Yeah, I read that article (briefly, I didn't download the code or anything). Really awesome stuff! Unfortunately it's the older version of the protocol (from Skype 4.x I think?) 00:32:59 <clokep> But exciting. :) 00:33:18 <DGMurdockIII> ok 00:33:20 <clokep> I'm following the blog on my RSS feeds. 00:33:36 <DGMurdockIII> there making some good projress 00:34:24 <clokep> That's good! :) I'm sure it'll get maybe into a prpl at some point. 00:34:55 <clokep> Definitely a good find! 00:46:59 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Ping timeout) 01:07:18 <clokep> instantbot: UUID 01:07:19 <instantbot> 5eaf8911-cd4b-4d77-b7c2-abd0270e6bb4 (/msg instantbot cid for CID form) 01:32:01 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 02:10:42 <-- Chaz6- has quit (Ping timeout) 02:10:58 --> Chaz6- has joined #instantbird 02:36:47 --> DetroitLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 02:40:52 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 02:46:09 <-- Chaz6- has quit (Ping timeout) 02:51:23 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: get satisfied!  :: core-networks.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 02:51:35 <-- flo has quit (Ping timeout) 02:53:57 --> Chaz6- has joined #instantbird 02:55:49 <-- Chaz6- has quit (Ping timeout) 02:56:13 --> Chaz6- has joined #instantbird 03:05:04 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 03:07:45 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 03:07:46 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout) 03:08:06 <-- Chaz6- has quit (Ping timeout) 03:08:16 --> Chaz6- has joined #instantbird 03:16:10 <-- Chaz6- has quit (Ping timeout) 03:19:07 --> Chaz6- has joined #instantbird 03:34:19 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 03:42:26 <-- rikki has left #instantbird () 04:23:26 <-- DetroitLibertyPenguin has left #instantbird () 04:36:26 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 05:08:35 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 05:45:52 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 07:24:25 <-- Chaz6- has quit (Ping timeout) 07:25:24 --> Chaz6- has joined #instantbird 07:29:17 <-- Chaz6- has quit (Ping timeout) 07:32:12 --> Chaz6- has joined #instantbird 07:41:34 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 07:43:46 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 07:49:08 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 09:41:28 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 09:42:13 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 09:44:18 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 09:46:43 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 09:47:36 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 09:47:47 <igorko> hi 09:48:07 <igorko> Someone knows where are placed Copiryght years for credits page? 09:48:15 <igorko> copyright* 09:48:29 <igorko> i found for About page but can't for Credits 09:48:53 <igorko> brb 09:48:57 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 09:49:03 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 09:49:47 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 09:49:50 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 09:55:27 <igorko> found another bug 10:01:03 <igorko> http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/file/88ff717f390e/instantbird/content/credits.xhtml someone should fix copyright year here http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/file/88ff717f390e/instantbird/content/credits.xhtml 10:01:18 <igorko> oh- duplicated link :) 10:01:26 <igorko> line 267 10:01:51 <igorko> also in aboutDialog.dtd in en-US 10:06:30 <igorko> and here http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/file/88ff717f390e/instantbird/content/credits.xhtml line 52. I don't see title on page so seems it's not used(wrong path?) 10:28:56 --> Glards has joined #instantbird 11:15:09 <igorko> here is my commit http://hg.instantbird.org/l10n/uk/rev/383d7a82805a 11:15:41 <igorko> i don't see ENTITY credit.title in app 11:37:45 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 11:37:51 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 11:38:16 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 11:38:20 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 11:43:28 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 11:55:10 --> Even has joined #instantbird 11:55:10 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 12:04:57 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: get satisfied!  :: core-networks.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 12:28:49 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 12:28:49 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 12:34:55 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 12:37:27 <DGMurdockIII> the the auto upytaytes are failing again 12:37:43 <DGMurdockIII> uptades* 12:39:05 <DGMurdockIII> it was workig fine for a while now it the last few have eather a partial uptade notworking or it thinking instantbird weas running 13:03:10 --> rikki has joined #instantbird 13:09:02 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 13:09:04 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 13:09:04 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 13:14:03 <clokep> :) Much better w/ Vertical Tabs enabled again! 13:14:16 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 13:20:52 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 13:30:26 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 13:46:55 <-- micahg has quit (Connection reset by peer) 13:47:35 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 14:19:39 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 14:28:03 --> waynenguyen has joined #instantbird 14:30:39 <Chaz6-> <3 vertical tabs 14:31:00 * Chaz6- is now known as Chaz6 14:33:25 <-- waynenguyen has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 14:39:30 --> waynenguyen has joined #instantbird 15:19:16 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 15:30:34 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 15:40:51 --> Jack has joined #instantbird 15:41:41 <Jack> Hi, how does Instantbird store passwords? I am not able to try it myself, but a new user of it reports that they don't see an accounts.xml. 15:46:08 <clokep> Jack: It stores them in the Mozilla preference system. 15:46:32 <clokep> prefs.js I believe the actual file is called. 15:47:15 <Jack> Ah, okay, still plaintext? 15:47:59 <clokep> Yes unfortunately, we were hoping to use the Mozilla password manager for 0.3, but it's not going to happen. 15:48:14 <Jack> Ah, okay. Just curious, I have unique passwords anyway. :P Thanks. 15:48:48 <clokep> No problem! Yeah most IM programs store them in plaintext, so...yeah, eventually we won't be. :) 15:49:18 <Jack> :) 15:49:43 <Jack> lb 15:49:45 <Jack> Oops 15:50:20 <-- Jack has left #instantbird (:3) 15:52:40 <-- rikki has quit (Connection reset by peer) 15:52:48 --> rikki has joined #instantbird 15:58:19 <FeuerFliege> hi 15:58:36 <FeuerFliege> what is the difference between a buddy and a contact? 15:58:39 <clokep> Hello. 15:58:49 <clokep> A contact is multiple buddies combined. 16:00:02 <clokep> FeuerFliege: See https://wiki.instantbird.org/User:Mic/Definition_of_terms perhaps? 16:00:51 <-- rikki has quit (Connection reset by peer) 16:00:58 --> rikki has joined #instantbird 16:01:50 <FeuerFliege> yeah, thatâs hard to translate :) 16:04:41 --> flo has joined #instantbird 16:04:41 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 16:04:57 <clokep> It barely makes sense in English. ;) 16:05:05 <clokep> Good evening flo! 16:05:14 <flo> it's only 6pm ;) 16:05:16 <flo> hello :) 16:05:31 <clokep> 6 pm = evening. ;) 16:05:48 <clokep> Kind of. :( 16:07:26 <flo> yeah :) 16:08:02 <flo> the AMI works as if its engine was brand new :) 16:10:03 <FeuerFliege> clokep: hm⦠my main problem is now, that âKontaktâ is used for buddy in the german translation AND that Kontakt is used for contact ⦠16:11:03 <flo> by the way, where is the difference between a buddy and a contact exposed in the UI? Is it useful or a bug? 16:16:25 <clokep> Right, I mean is there any reason to have them different in the UI? 16:17:08 <flo> I see the word "Buddy" in the tooltip of both contacts and buddies, indicating the username (ahem...) of the (preferred) buddy. 16:17:57 <flo> the word "username" would clearly make more sense than "buddy" at this place (even though it doesn't really make a lot of sense either) 16:18:37 <flo> there's also "Add Buddy" in the "File" menu, which adds... a contact :-S 16:22:57 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 16:22:58 <clokep> It's a difficult concept to explain. :( 16:23:41 <igorko> flo Hi. Please read my messages from log 16:23:44 <flo> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/736 16:23:57 <flo> I don't see any place there where the word "buddy" is usefully exposed 16:24:01 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 16:24:34 <igorko> about copyright year(in 2 places) and about Credits page title 16:24:40 <igorko> bbl 16:24:51 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 16:26:13 <flo> igorko: I don't think the <title> of credits.xhtml is ever used 16:26:26 <flo> err, I meant displayed to the user 16:28:57 <clokep> Yeah, they don't seem to be.. 16:29:47 <flo> so, the copyright year seems to be written at http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/app/macbuild/Contents/Info.plist.in#10, http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/app/macbuild/Contents/Resources/English.lproj/InfoPlist.strings.in#2, http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/locales/en-US/chrome/instantbird/aboutDialog.dtd#9 and http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/content 16:30:21 <flo> I think the one in the locales is a mistake, as we don't want each locale team to have to update it every year :-S 16:31:36 <clokep> Years are pretty much the same everywhere...well as long as we use the same calendar. 16:43:06 <-- waynenguyen has quit (Connection reset by peer) 16:46:13 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 17:10:37 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 17:14:18 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 17:25:59 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 17:48:40 <DGMurdockIII> 2(clokep2): how do you get the tabs Vertical 17:49:09 <clokep> DGMurdockIII: Combination of changing CSS styles and DOM properties (via JavaScript). 17:49:43 <DGMurdockIII> so it a custom feature you did to your client 17:50:14 <clokep> It's an extension I made last year that I jus tupdated for the theme changes that were made to the tabs. 17:50:57 <DGMurdockIII> it be nice to get this option in instintbird 17:51:00 <clokep> The code is up on Google Code and the extension is on AIO. ;) It's even featured. 17:52:01 <DGMurdockIII> this is for firefox? 17:52:08 <clokep> No, it's for Instantbird. 17:52:21 <DGMurdockIII> ok that what i thought 17:53:08 <clokep> http://code.google.com/p/vertical-tabs/ and https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/addon/244 17:53:17 <clokep> But the newest version isn't up cause of a problem w/ AIO. 17:53:45 <DGMurdockIII> aio? 17:53:53 <clokep> addons.instantbird.org 17:54:52 <DGMurdockIII> that what i thought but when you said newest version isn't up cause of a problem w/ AIO i got confused 17:55:26 <clokep> Yeah you can't upload files to it right now for some reason. 17:56:10 <flo> I've added some code inside the oscar prpl to print the time spent in the function parsing the buddy list received from the server 17:56:53 <flo> when blist.sqlite exists, it takes 0s. With the same account, after removing blist.sqlite and restarting/reconnecting, executing that function takes *10* seconds (during which the UI is frozen) on my linux debug build. 17:57:08 <DGMurdockIII> but speeking of firefox do you know of any addblock plus alterntives? 17:57:43 <clokep> Do you not like ad block plus? 17:58:05 <clokep> flo: That's ridiculous! Is it just waiting for the server to respond? 17:58:23 <flo> my alternative is to avoid websites whose ads I cannot stand :) 17:59:07 <flo> clokep: nah, that's bug 780 that I'm investigating 17:59:10 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=780 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Freeze while downloading buddy list 17:59:18 <flo> the function *parses* the reply already received from the server 17:59:29 <flo> it's the same reply in both cases 17:59:42 <clokep> Oh OK! I wasn't sure if that included network time. :) 17:59:43 <flo> just that in one case we write the buddies into the sqlite file 17:59:50 <flo> synchronously... -_- 18:01:10 <flo> I suspect my testcase is a bit pathological (I suspect linux fsyncs after each sqlite write for some reason, + my account has 200+ buddies), but that's good for a testcase 18:01:11 <DGMurdockIII> i do not like adblock plus 18:02:11 <clokep> Does it seem reasonable to convert it to async easily? 18:03:03 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 18:03:33 <flo> it's not really easy but I'll need to somehow find a way to do it :) 18:04:41 <flo> if you have 1000+ facebook friends and the UI freezes for a minute when you connect your account the first time, that's a terrible first start experience... 18:06:20 <clokep> And 1000+ facebook friends probably isn't too ridiculous. 18:06:28 <clokep> Well for some people. 18:39:49 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 18:41:17 <DGMurdockIII> i dont even have 100 friends 18:44:12 <-- FeuerFliege has left #instantbird () 19:29:00 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 19:33:59 --> linuxwizard has joined #instantbird 19:45:36 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 19:55:07 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 20:06:58 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 826 filed by florian@instantbird.org. 20:06:59 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=826 tri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, The difference between "buddy" and "contact" shouldn't be exposed in the UI 20:08:39 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 827 filed by florian@instantbird.org. 20:08:42 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=827 min, --, 0.3, nobody, NEW, Update copyright year in the about dialog and the credits. 20:25:27 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 20:27:56 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 20:33:21 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 20:33:21 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 20:42:57 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 20:49:26 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Ping timeout) 20:54:29 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 21:41:42 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 21:44:57 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 21:45:47 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 21:51:48 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 21:51:57 <DGMurdockIII> look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntbVGGMu_Ac coffie maker 22:06:56 <-- Glards has quit (Quit: Lost terminal) 22:17:47 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 22:20:31 <-- Tonnes has quit (Ping timeout) 22:29:13 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 22:52:00 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 22:56:58 <-- linuxwizard has left #instantbird () 22:57:06 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 23:13:14 <-- FeuerFliege has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 23:13:27 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 23:14:29 <-- FeuerFliege has left #instantbird () 23:16:12 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 23:18:55 <-- FeuerFliege has left #instantbird () 23:23:47 <flo> ah, the de localization is complete :) 23:27:45 <clokep> That was fast! 23:29:20 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 23:29:25 <-- FeuerFliege has left #instantbird () 23:30:06 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 23:30:16 <-- FeuerFliege has left #instantbird () 23:31:04 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 23:31:22 <-- FeuerFliege has left #instantbird () 23:32:10 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 23:32:18 <-- FeuerFliege has left #instantbird () 23:34:59 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 23:38:39 --> mib_6a99we has joined #instantbird 23:40:52 <flo> Good night :) 23:44:50 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 23:46:02 --> FeuerFliege has joined #instantbird 23:46:10 <FeuerFliege> hi 23:46:39 <clokep> How's it going? 23:46:58 <FeuerFliege> i have finished tranlating the missing strings and files for the german localization 23:47:39 <FeuerFliege> buildbot made a langpack, but it doesn't work. 23:47:41 <FeuerFliege> :( 23:47:57 <clokep> Is there an error or does it just not work? 23:49:26 <FeuerFliege> everything is still English. I have some messages in the error console⦠23:49:38 <FeuerFliege> Could not find jar manifest entry 'chrome/de.manifest'. 23:49:57 <-- mib_6a99we has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 23:50:17 <clokep> Hmmm...I see. I don't really know how lang packs work, I'm sure flo will read the log in the morning though. :)