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It was only briefly tested. 12:01:12 <varuna> i was trying to login to gtalk with starttls and failed 12:01:17 <varuna> worked with ssl easily though 12:01:21 <varuna> ok 12:01:37 <clokep_work> Wait, you mean you tried to log in without SSL and it failed, but worked OK w/ SSL? 12:01:50 <varuna> so if by anychance i get to do this project and i need to change it will we be sharing or keep two versions 12:01:55 <varuna> no 12:01:58 <varuna> with starttls 12:02:07 <clokep_work> Ah, I see. 12:02:09 <varuna> the server said tls required 12:02:12 <varuna> i do start tls 12:02:15 <varuna> and proceed 12:02:19 <clokep_work> Got it. 12:02:36 <varuna> and the stupid server kicks me after saying succeed on auth :D 12:02:56 <clokep_work> Yeah, I figured we'd kind of need to fork that file and remerge it at some point...it's why I keep a separate copy in my IRC repo (although it's currently identical to the one that was checked in). 12:03:08 <varuna> :) 12:03:12 <clokep_work> Haha, "stupid server" seems a pretty good description of all IM servers. 12:03:34 <varuna> yeah i heard that all the time where i did the internship :D 12:03:44 <clokep_work> :) 12:04:21 <clokep_work> Do you happen to have a diff of what you've changed? I'm just curious. :) 12:05:45 <varuna> it's filled with a lot of junk code i think :P 12:05:53 <clokep_work> Ah OK. Don't worry about it then. 12:06:02 <varuna> the main changes were 12:07:09 <varuna> adding the method 12:07:25 <varuna> getInterface to this.transport.securityCallbacks 12:07:38 <varuna> without that it didn't seem to be invoking the badcert callback 12:08:10 <clokep_work> Oh, OK. 12:09:13 <varuna> and handling the cert to open up the exceptions dialog 12:09:19 <varuna> which didn't quite work for me 12:09:26 <varuna> the dialog opened but was kind of stuck 12:09:44 <clokep_work> Hmmmm...I see. 12:10:09 <clokep_work> I've actually been having trouble connection to Freenode over SSL, haven't debugged it yet though. :) Might be related. 12:10:24 <varuna> ah ok 12:10:35 <varuna> i got this because the talk.google.com gave the gamil.com certificate 12:13:18 <clokep_work> Ah, I see. :) Google would do that. 12:32:34 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 13:22:27 <varuna> btw how do you install extensions without archiving them? so that i could may be install it from the repo straight away 13:24:35 <clokep_work> Create a file named after the ID of the extension. 13:24:43 <clokep_work> (So mine would be firstname.lastname@example.org I think.) 13:24:56 <clokep_work> And the only contents of the file should be the path to the folder containing the extension. 13:35:29 <varuna> ok thanks 13:35:35 <varuna> and put it in the folder extensions? 13:38:08 <clokep_work> Yes, sorry. :) Forgot the most important part! 14:00:59 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 14:00:59 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 14:01:10 <Mic> hello 14:04:27 <clokep_work> Hello. 14:08:07 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 14:09:03 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 15:13:53 <waynenguyen> Are we missing something like an 'attention' button for instantbird? :s 15:15:54 <clokep_work> waynenguyen: What do you mean "'attention' button"? Is this part of a specific protocol? 15:16:48 <waynenguyen> I mean sth like the 'attention' button in Pidgin or 'buzz' in YM 15:17:10 <clokep_work> Ah, right. Buzz in YM... 15:17:36 <clokep_work> It does not exist in Instantbird AFAIK. 15:17:47 <clokep_work> I'd suggest filing a bug. :) 15:18:06 <waynenguyen> ok :D 15:18:47 <clokep_work> I also doubt that Instantbird can receive a "buzz" ;) 15:19:47 <clokep_work> Although if Pidgin has a /buzz command, which it seems to...that might work. :) 15:21:26 <clokep_work> waynenguyen: ^ ^ That should work actually. 15:22:20 <waynenguyen> Yeah it works :D 15:23:09 <waynenguyen> But a button is more convenient I think 15:25:02 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 756 filed by email@example.com. 15:25:04 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756 enh, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Add an "attention" button to the conversation window 15:27:54 <clokep_work> Are there other protocols which use that do we know? :) 15:30:55 <waynenguyen> I'm not really sure about this. Btw Instantbird can receive the buzz, however it doesn't give a signal about it, even a sound like when a normal message is received. 15:31:37 <clokep_work> It just dumps the text in the conversation. 15:31:49 <clokep_work> Yeah, you could file another bug prbably. :P 15:32:07 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 15:32:16 <igorko> hi 15:32:25 <clokep_work> Hello. 15:32:33 <waynenguyen> Thanks clokep. 15:32:47 <clokep_work> Bah got mid-aired. 15:36:44 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 757 filed by firstname.lastname@example.org. 15:36:45 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Instantbird doesn't give a signal when receives a 'buzz' 15:50:49 <-- Andrey has quit (Quit: ) 15:53:00 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 16:01:25 <-- varuna has left #instantbird () 16:02:44 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 16:04:10 <igorko> why groups use "tag" feature ? 16:04:22 <igorko> why no just hide grup etc 16:04:36 <igorko> group* 16:04:53 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 16:04:53 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 16:05:17 <clokep_work> I don't understand your question igorko 16:05:37 <igorko> right click on grup name 16:06:17 <igorko> in contex menu there are "Hide tag" and "Hidden tags" elements 16:06:26 <igorko> context* 16:06:37 <igorko> and hide tag hides group 16:06:56 <clokep_work> Right... 16:06:58 <igorko> in "Hidden tags" list are listed group names 16:07:06 <clokep_work> No, they're the tag names. ;) 16:07:23 <igorko> why not groups? 16:07:28 <igorko> but tags 16:07:44 <igorko> this can confuse users 16:08:10 <clokep_work> I mean a tag is pretty much the same thing as a group. 16:09:18 <clokep_work> The naming difference is because usually you can only place a thing in one "group", while you can "tag" something with many tags. 16:09:21 <igorko> i understand that groups are not hiding(because contacts are moving to Other Contacts) but this is confusing 16:10:05 <clokep_work> Which part is confusing? 16:10:28 <igorko> for example i see tag feature only in group context menu 16:10:58 <clokep_work> There are no such things as groups anymore, there is only tags. 16:11:41 <-- waynenguyen has quit (Ping timeout) 16:11:50 <igorko> new group in move "contact" context menu :p 16:11:55 --> waynenguyen has joined #instantbird 16:11:59 <igorko> "move contact" 16:13:51 <-- Even1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 16:14:37 <clokep_work> It's an alpha, not all the strings were changed yet. 16:14:49 <clokep_work> "Move contact" doesn't necessarily imply a group. 16:15:07 <igorko> but there is new group entry there :p 16:15:35 <clokep_work> It needs to be changed, file a bug. 16:17:14 <igorko> this is some revolution? :) We hate groups ;) 16:18:24 <clokep_work> No, it's been planned all along. 16:18:33 <clokep_work> Tags are more flexible than groups though. 16:19:57 <igorko> so revolution was planned... 16:20:09 <clokep_work> Yes, check the roadmap. 16:20:12 <igorko> i mean all IMclients i know use groups 16:20:14 <clokep_work> It's not really a big change though. 16:20:25 <clokep_work> But there's not really any difference between a group and a tag. 16:20:46 <igorko> for developers but not for users(imho) 16:20:57 <igorko> but do as you want 16:22:58 <clokep_work> I disagree. I think users know what tags are. 16:26:50 <clokep_work> I don't think it makes much of a difference either way...do people really rearrange that stuff or just use what's downloaded from the server? 16:27:20 <clokep_work> It's also called "Tags" now since the goal is to make more "Dynamic" tags, like a "Favorites" or "Recent" or "Frequent" or "Freqencey" tag. 17:36:33 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a3pre) 17:43:47 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 17:45:02 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 17:47:50 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 17:58:15 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 18:06:34 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 18:14:03 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 18:23:07 --> linuxwizard has joined #instantbird 19:04:17 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 19:09:04 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 19:15:41 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 19:45:36 <-- sonny has quit (Connection reset by peer) 20:25:48 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 20:59:04 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 21:01:10 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: get satisfied! 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