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00:02:06 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a2pre) 00:02:15 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 00:02:15 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 00:08:46 <clokep> flo: http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-api-announce/browse_thread/thread/c82cd59c7a87216a?hl=en_US Twitter updated their terms of use about consistency and such in 3rd party apps. 00:08:59 <clokep> Although they seem to confuse "consistency" and "privacy" in that post a ibt. 00:13:50 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 00:15:54 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a2pre) 03:01:18 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 03:32:42 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 03:32:42 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 03:38:59 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 03:39:15 <-- Seji has quit (Ping timeout) 03:47:50 --> tymerkaev_away has joined #instantbird 03:48:27 * tymerkaev_away is now known as tymerkaev 03:54:46 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a2pre) 04:02:21 --> Seji has joined #instantbird 04:06:29 <-- linuxwizard has left #instantbird () 04:19:50 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 04:50:13 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 05:10:22 <-- Seji has quit (Ping timeout) 05:11:03 --> Seji has joined #instantbird 07:13:40 --> kaie2 has joined #instantbird 07:16:08 <-- kaie has quit (Ping timeout) 07:16:08 * kaie2 is now known as kaie 07:26:02 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-xr [XULRunner 2.0b13pre/20110304030406]) 07:52:15 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 08:09:47 <instantbot> New Websites - Addons.instantbird.org bug 728 filed by michal.stanke@mikk.cz. 08:09:49 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=728 min, --, ---, raynaudquentin, UNCO, "Recently Updated" RSS feed isn't taking in all updates 08:37:42 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 09:05:02 --> Ornthalas has joined #instantbird 10:06:47 <instantbot> Just appeared in Pidgin News - default : 10:06:48 <instantbot> http://kingant.net/2011/03/no-summer-of-code-for-pidgin-this-year/ - Mark Doliner: No Summer of Code for Pidgin This Year 11:03:57 <-- Ornthalas has quit (Quit: KTHXBYE) 11:16:18 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 11:21:14 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Connection reset by peer) 11:37:23 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 11:37:23 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 11:44:41 --> jd has joined #instantbird 11:45:19 <jd> hi everyone! 11:45:41 <clokep> Hello. 11:45:55 <jd> i'm new here 11:47:14 <jd> is there any hotkey support in instantbird ? 11:47:34 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 11:47:35 <jd> like show offline friends? 11:47:35 <clokep> There's some hot keys, what were you hoping to do w/ a hotkey 11:47:45 <clokep> Oh, uhh...I don't think we have one for that. 11:48:20 <jd> I see :) 11:49:28 <clokep> It could probably be added pretty easily via an extension or patch. 11:49:43 <clokep> Actually I find it kind of weird that there's nothing in the menus for it (only the context menu)? 11:50:02 <jd> I agree 11:51:59 --> mark76 has joined #instantbird 11:52:13 <clokep> You could file a bug about it or see what flo thinks (if he's here?) 11:52:57 <jd> I am currently a student and never joint any open source project before 11:53:16 <jd> do you think instantbird is good to start off 12:07:55 <-- mark76 has left #instantbird () 12:08:32 --> waynenguyen has joined #instantbird 12:11:57 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 12:12:36 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 12:12:36 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 12:12:46 <clokep> Sorry about that, I walked away. :-X 12:13:15 <clokep> I think it's a good start off jd, there's not too large of a team working on it that you'll get lost easily, and everyone is generally friendly and helpful. 12:13:30 <jd> thank a lot 12:14:31 <clokep> We also might be doing Google Summer of Code (under Mozilla, even though we're not really part of Mozilla): The ideas are listed https://wiki.mozilla.org/Community:SummerOfCode11:Brainstorming#Instantbird but I'm not sure of the status of them. 12:14:57 <clokep> Was there something in particular you wanted to work on? 12:15:01 * clokep is leaving in a few minutes. 12:16:44 <clokep> (Not necessarily off that list, you could also check out the bugtracker: http://bugzilla.instantbird.org or the wiki http://wiki.instantbird.org) 12:17:30 <clokep> Ah, I've got to go. I'd suggest just hanging around in here and checking out some of those links. :) Usually people are around (or just ask questions and we'll probably read the log and answer next time you're on). 12:17:35 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a2pre) 12:18:40 --> rikki1 has joined #instantbird 12:19:22 <waynenguyen> I want to work on the import wizard 12:19:45 <-- rikki has quit (Ping timeout) 12:26:09 <jd> Thank you for useful links, clokep :D . I like the idea of new indexed logs in GSoC. Voice and video support idea seem to be very interesting but maybe to hard for me :p 12:34:17 <-- waynenguyen has quit (Connection timed out) 12:53:23 --> waynenguyen has joined #instantbird 13:28:11 <flo> hello :) 13:28:33 <jd> hi, flo! 13:35:53 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 13:50:59 --> rikki has joined #instantbird 13:52:31 --> rikki2 has joined #instantbird 13:53:40 <-- rikki1 has quit (Ping timeout) 13:54:03 <-- rikki has quit (Ping timeout) 14:16:19 <jd> Is there any simple way that I can join a IRC channel automatically when Instantbird starts up? 14:20:36 --> jdt has joined #instantbird 14:20:42 <-- jdt has left #instantbird () 14:20:49 --> jdt has joined #instantbird 14:21:28 <jd> oh, I found out how already 14:21:30 <jd> :D 14:21:43 <-- jdt has left #instantbird () 14:32:49 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 15:38:11 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 15:40:21 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 16:21:57 <-- waynenguyen has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 16:48:45 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 16:58:49 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 17:20:47 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 17:27:29 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 17:38:00 <-- skeledrew has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a2pre) 17:41:09 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 17:58:02 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a2pre) 17:58:18 --> flo has joined #instantbird 17:58:18 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 18:00:17 --> jdt has joined #instantbird 18:00:22 <-- jdt has left #instantbird () 18:04:06 <-- jd has quit (Quit: Leaving) 19:35:19 --> zachlr has joined #instantbird 19:39:08 <-- DetroitLibertyPenguin has quit (Ping timeout) 19:54:40 --> DetroitLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 20:21:10 --> Ornthalas has joined #instantbird 20:27:31 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 20:31:40 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 20:38:37 --> linuxwizard has joined #instantbird 20:42:33 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 20:57:26 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 21:02:57 <-- skeledrew has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a2pre) 21:12:45 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 21:51:10 --> Mathnerd314 has joined #instantbird 22:00:45 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 22:15:12 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 22:29:39 * flo tries ChromeBug 22:38:36 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 22:38:37 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 22:39:53 <clokep> How's it work? 22:43:04 <clokep> (ChromeBug that is.) 22:46:35 <flo> it's Firebug for the chrome part of Firefox. 22:46:49 <flo> apparently it can work in other XUL applications (I haven't tried yet in Instantbird) 22:47:09 <flo> I'm trying to update my tab add-on to be compatible with panorama, so I'm trying to understand how that feature works 22:48:04 <flo> if it works in Instantbird, the steps to use it are: 1. Install Firebug and ChromeBug. 2. Restart the application with -chromebug on the command line. 22:48:21 <Mook> duct tape and bailing wire ;) 22:48:43 <flo> is that about panorama? 22:48:50 <Mook> yeah 22:49:17 <flo> have you tried to mess with it already? :) 22:49:34 <Mook> no, I just watched it get implemented :) 22:49:47 <flo> I've just figured out that the tabs that aren't shown are still in the tabbox, they just have the hidden="true" attribute 22:50:13 <flo> ah, so that's a bit like Larry which was the name of a new regression kind at the time? ;) 22:50:23 <Mook> haha 22:51:34 <Mook> for a while, panorama was "the thing that made me curse as it took a second or two every time I accidentally triggered it". then they changed the shortcut key and now I'm happy :D 22:51:40 <clokep> Sorry, I meant "How /well/ does it work?" :) 22:53:50 <flo> Mook: ahah. I triggered it accidentally with the touchpad. 22:54:13 <flo> clokep: it takes 100% of one core almost all the time. Which doesn't matter much as I've 4 of them :). 23:05:42 <clokep> flo: do you kno wif there's a way to send a null from a telnet session? :P 23:05:56 <flo> no, sorry 23:06:32 <-- clokep has quit (Connection timed out) 23:07:24 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 23:07:24 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 23:08:31 <clokep> Hmm...OK. 23:08:34 <clokep> My listener works. :) 23:09:43 <flo> :) 23:10:49 <Chaz6> Hey, have you had any reports of crashes with the win32 build today? 23:11:59 <Chaz6> http://pastebin.com/jTE7ujU0 23:14:39 <flo> Chaz6: it's a JS error at startup, not a crash 23:15:06 <Chaz6> Well instantbird does not start 23:15:44 <flo> anyway, you are the first to report the issue. Thanks! 23:16:19 <Chaz6> Phew 23:16:33 <Chaz6> Glad I checked :) 23:17:07 <flo> anybody here on Windows using the *latest* nightly and not having a startup problem? 23:17:33 <Mook> I'm not, but I _am_ on windows and could test... :) 23:17:51 <flo> :) 23:19:14 <flo> there's nothing Windows-specific in that code and my Mac nightly works well, so I suspect something is corrupted in Chaz6's blist.sqlite file in the profile. 23:19:51 <flo> Chaz6: have you played with merging buddies into contacts recently? 23:20:59 <clokep> flo: Running fine on the latest. 23:21:21 * flo would like to understand how this corruption happend 23:21:25 <flo> *happened 23:21:30 <Mook> I can start, at least :) 23:21:51 <flo> Mook: with some contacts displayed correctly in the list? 23:22:15 --> Mook_ib has joined #instantbird 23:22:27 <Mook_ib> hmm, that would require me to have contact 23:22:40 <flo> heh 23:22:45 <Mook_ib> yep. I can see... myself. from here. 23:22:58 <-- Mook_ib has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a2pre) 23:23:24 <flo> the buddy list must look really like a broken piece of UI when there's no contact at all to display :-S 23:24:15 <Mook> overlay a almost-invisible label, "you are alone and have no friends"? :p 23:25:33 <flo> if you display facebook friends, it's very easy to have a full list displayed even when there's no one you would really appreciate to talk to ;) 23:26:27 <Mook> sure, but the UI doesn't look broken in that case :) 23:26:31 <Chaz6> flo: yes i have, and something odd did happen 23:26:52 <Chaz6> I ended up with buddies both in the same metacontact, and also individually in the same group 23:27:13 <flo> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/593 this should be enough to make Instantbird still start correctly (and ignore the corrupted data) in this case 23:27:29 <Chaz6> I couldn't get rid of the duplicates without deleting the contacts, as far as i could tell 23:27:43 <flo> have you tried restarting the application before trying to delete the contact? 23:28:21 <Chaz6> Yes i didnt want to delete the contact, so now it won't start 23:28:42 <flo> any idea of how I can reproduce the issue? 23:29:26 <Chaz6> All I can say is that it happened when i was trying to group some contacts 23:29:40 <Chaz6> They got added to the group but didnt disappear so they were there twice 23:30:01 <flo> by "group" here you mean "contact", right? 23:30:05 <Chaz6> yes 23:30:14 <Mook> hmm, addons don't want to install. Warning: WARN addons.updates: Error: Missing updates property for urn:mozilla:extension:flasher@extensions.mook.wordpress.com Source File: resource://gre/modules/AddonUpdateChecker.jsm Line: 472 23:30:26 <Chaz6> I'm sorry i cant be any more helpful 23:30:46 <flo> Mook: nah. It's just that the dialog saying the maxVersion is not good is Firefox-specific in the new add-on manager 23:30:56 <Mook> oh. ha 23:31:04 <flo> Chaz6: well, I'm sorry you are having this issue ;) 23:31:16 <flo> Mook: https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=712 23:31:21 <instantbot> Bug 712 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, No UI feedback when attempting to install an incompatible add-on 23:31:23 <Mook> actually, I think it's "hey, this app isn't in the install manifest" 23:31:47 <flo> heh, yeah, I meant "can't install for whatever reason" :) 23:34:09 <flo> Chaz6: so the buddy you were trying to merge was in the same group as the contact where you dropped it. But the original buddy failed to disappear after being dropped, even though it appeared as part of the contact. Is this what happened, or is there a detail I got wrong? 23:34:38 <Chaz6> flo: yes that's it exactly 23:35:00 <-- clokep has quit (Connection timed out) 23:35:02 <flo> do you remember what you have done just after that? :) 23:35:12 <Mook> thanks, that fixed it. em:id of toolkit@mozilla.org, <em:minVersion>1.9.*</em:minVersion> 23:35:26 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 23:35:26 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 23:35:31 <Chaz6> I probably tried to do it again with the same result 23:35:50 <flo> it appeared a second time in the contact? Or just changed nothing? 23:36:00 <Chaz6> And then perhaps tried to drag one of the individual contacts onto another individual one to see if they would make a new group, but they did not 23:36:04 <Chaz6> It changed nothing 23:36:17 <-- zachlr has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 23:39:17 <clokep> Mook: I wanted to bug you about upping the max versions of your extensions to 0.3a2pre on AIO. :) 23:39:48 <Mook> oh, right :) 23:39:56 * clokep should probably do that too. :-[ 23:40:03 <flo> man, the "group", "contact", etc... words are so confusing :-(. I guess we will need to explain what we usually mean by each of them on a wikipage with some screenshot of the corresponding UI to ensure we talk about the same thing. Especially if we want to have any hope of helping users who aren't as clear as Chaz6 in their explanations :). 23:40:37 <Chaz6> Yeah sorry i should have picked my words better 23:41:01 <Mook> Chaz6: it's okay, you're being a good representative of normal users :) 23:41:04 <flo> your words make sense. It's just that they are not the same was what we used technically in the code. 23:41:43 <flo> Mook: I suspect normal users would be inconsistent in their use of words, in addition to not knowing which words *we* use. 23:41:52 <Mook> exactly! :) 23:42:20 <Mook> oh, I just have nictabam 23:42:51 * Mook is confused. 3 weekly downloads, 6 total downloads... since december 20th? 23:43:18 <clokep> The FAQs should have pictures probably. :-[ 23:44:51 * flo hasn't managed yet to imagine a case that would cause such a result in the sqlite file :-S 23:45:32 <clokep> flo: How well do you know how to use the proxy service? :-D My trials at it were major failures. 23:45:47 <flo> clokep: I've never used it 23:46:08 <flo> but some code in one of the socket objects I've read looked like it was almost correct 23:46:23 <flo> it just seemed to have missed the PREFER_SOCKS flag 23:46:51 <Mook> okay, version bumped (without having a new file, though) 23:50:07 <clokep> (That question is open to anyone else to. :-D) 23:51:24 <flo> I suspect what happened for Chaz6 was that the remove transition failed for the contact which should have disappeared. And then further attempts to move/drag that contact which no longer existed resulted in some corruption of the blist file. 23:53:26 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: get satisfied!  :: core-networks.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 23:54:01 <Mook> clokep: the network proxy, not the thread proxy? 23:54:26 <flo> Mook: yes 23:54:38 <Mook> sorry, haven't touched that one :p