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00:06:08 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: get satisfied!  :: core-networks.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 00:13:52 --> mark76 has joined #instantbird 00:19:53 <-- mark76 has left #instantbird () 00:51:17 <-- Mathnerd314 has quit (Ping timeout) 02:01:56 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 02:12:52 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a2pre) 02:14:04 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 02:14:04 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 03:20:48 <clokep> If anyone wants to read about all the junk I've been dealing w/ thinking about the IRC specs: http://clokep.blogspot.com/2011/03/so-called-irc-specifications.html 03:22:28 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a2pre) 04:01:31 --> tymerkaev_away has joined #instantbird 04:21:35 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 04:43:57 * tymerkaev_away is now known as tymerkaev 05:02:00 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 05:04:53 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 05:59:58 <Mook> clokep: yeah, it's the same code, just poked at more, IIRC. and yes, that's _old_. roughly speaking, just before instantbird ;) 06:01:52 <Mook> clokep: also: Silver's back recently; might be interesting to have a chat with him (over in #chatzilla) about how everybody hates the "specs" that is IRC ;) 06:04:16 * Mook still feels weird using IRC as an asynchronous public messaging system 06:21:18 <-- Seji has quit (Ping timeout) 06:21:39 --> Seji has joined #instantbird 06:46:44 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 06:50:43 <-- Seji has quit (Ping timeout) 06:50:46 --> Seji has joined #instantbird 07:13:47 --> kaie2 has joined #instantbird 07:15:56 <-- kaie has quit (Ping timeout) 07:15:56 * kaie2 is now known as kaie 07:38:00 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 07:50:17 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 07:52:17 <-- micahg has quit (Input/output error) 07:53:12 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 08:01:42 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-xr [XULRunner 2.0b13pre/20110304030406]) 08:21:29 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 08:23:51 --> Ornthalas has joined #instantbird 08:51:12 --> Even has joined #instantbird 08:51:13 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 08:57:36 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 09:03:40 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 09:04:28 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 726 filed by raynaudquentin@gmail.com. 09:04:29 <instantbot> raynaudquentin@gmail.com added attachment 555 to bug 726. 09:04:30 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=726 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Invisible contacts in the "new" buddy list 09:09:30 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 09:09:30 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 09:19:44 <Mic> hello 09:22:21 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 09:24:05 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 09:24:05 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 09:26:00 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a2pre) 09:27:05 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 09:27:30 <Even> hello :) 09:49:18 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 09:49:19 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 09:52:57 --> flo has joined #instantbird 09:52:57 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 10:07:40 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 10:12:57 <flo> Hello :) 10:14:52 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 10:14:52 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 10:17:22 <-- sabret00the has quit (Quit: Leaving) 10:18:34 <Mic> hello 10:19:11 <Mic> How's everything going? I couldn't follow the logs closely lately 10:23:27 <flo> you probably wanted to see http://queze.net/goinfre/update-pings-2011-03-07.png then :) 10:25:03 <flo> also http://queze.net/goinfre/update-pings-and-downloads-count.png (in blue is the same thing: update pings. Since the 0.2 release). In red the downloads. We had about 35,000 downloads since the 0.2 release. 10:26:52 <flo> summary: our user base keeps growing slowly, but our retention rate (people who become active daily users after a download) is low (around 2% if my calculation is correct. For comparison, Firefox in 2007-2008 had about 25%). 10:35:08 <Mic> Thanks :) 10:35:32 <Mic> Two percent actually keeping it.. that's not much :( 10:35:47 <flo> we don't know how many actually start it at all 10:35:57 <flo> for Firefox only about 50% of the downloads lead to someone starting it 10:36:11 <Mic> What a waste of traffic 10:38:51 <flo> I've been wondering yesterday how we can know what cause people to not keep it 10:52:31 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 727 filed by florian@instantbird.org. 10:52:51 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Provide an easy way to send feedback 11:01:49 --> Mic1 has joined #instantbird 11:02:32 <-- Mic has quit (Ping timeout) 11:03:06 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 11:10:40 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 11:14:33 <Mic1> *test* 11:15:18 --> mic2345 has joined #instantbird 11:16:11 * mic2345 is now known as Mic2 11:16:45 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 11:16:45 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 11:16:56 <Mic2> The webpage for the bug report you filed opened in the conversation view 11:17:24 <-- Mic2 has left #instantbird () 11:17:24 <flo> any idea of why? 11:17:46 --> Mic2 has joined #instantbird 11:18:38 <clokep> Anything in the error console? 11:19:09 <clokep> I just got a "this.buddies[name] is undefined" error. :-/ 11:19:34 <Mic2> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/588 11:19:54 <flo> clokep: it's not a rare error ;) 11:20:10 <clokep> Isn't it bad? :P 11:22:31 <flo> clokep: it happens when for some reason some code of the conversation tries to get the color of a nick before that nick is added to the displayed nick list 11:22:37 <-- Mic2 has left #instantbird () 11:22:37 <-- Mic1 has left #instantbird () 11:23:08 <flo> Mic's error looks serious though 11:23:18 <flo> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/content/convbrowser.xml#803 11:23:45 <flo> it seems we should call event.preventDefault/stopPropagation *before* the loadUrl call which apparently can throw 11:24:14 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 11:24:14 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 11:24:49 <Mic> I'm getting this problem everytime I click a link now 11:24:59 <Mic> Can anyone try it too? 11:25:06 <flo> Mic: no 11:25:07 <Mic> I'm on Windows 7 at the moment 11:25:12 <flo> but I can fix it for the next nightly if you want 11:25:25 <flo> I just said: 11:25:26 <flo> 12:23:13 - flo: Mic's error looks serious though 11:25:26 <flo> 12:23:23 - flo: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/content/convbrowser.xml#803 11:25:26 <flo> 12:23:50 - flo: it seems we should call event.preventDefault/stopPropagation *before* the loadUrl call which apparently can throw 11:26:05 <Mic> Do you need a bug report for that? 11:26:07 <flo> Mic: I suspect there's something messed up in your system's default browser selection. 11:26:26 <Mic> Ah, let me try something 11:27:05 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 11:27:50 <flo> Mic: If we agree http://pastebin.instantbird.com/589 is the right fix, I can just push it without a bug. 11:28:58 <clokep> Hmm....according to the Pidgin mailing list Google SoC is interested in more first time organizations? ;) 11:29:06 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 11:29:06 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 11:29:29 <flo> clokep: I read that too 11:29:51 <Mic> I can't open urls from the start /run menu either (which works fine on another user), so something is indeed broken there 11:30:07 <Mic> Brought up a real bug though ;) 11:30:16 <flo> if the fix looks right I'll push it today 11:31:20 <flo> clokep: I received a mostly positve reply for my request to do SoC as part of Mozilla though 11:32:02 <flo> The reply said they would be happy to have us hoin GSoC as part of Mozilla for projects which have a certain level of "reusability" in other Mozilla communication projects. 11:32:38 <flo> so JS protocols and Account import would fit the criteria, but not Android Instantbird or Sync for Instantbird. 11:32:53 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 11:33:31 <Mic> flo: I will have a look later, I need to go for a while 11:34:15 <flo> I was wondering if I should send a similar request to Pidgin developers, but for different projects (I know they accepted several projects creating new UIs above libpurple in the past, so maybe they would like the Instantbird for Android idea) 11:36:51 <clokep> Possibly. 11:36:55 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 11:37:23 <clokep> Mozilla might accept something like System Tray support then, as long as it ould be chceked into toolkit. ;) 11:37:30 * clokep isn't receiving messages again. :-/ 11:38:07 <flo> do you have a server with a reliable connection that you can tunnel your IRC connection into? 11:41:27 <clokep> No, I'm directly connect to the internet. 11:41:33 <clokep> Seems to only happen when I SSL. :-/ 11:41:44 <clokep> Wish I knew why though. (Outgoing seems fine. :P) 11:42:36 <-- clokep has quit (Connection timed out) 11:42:47 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 11:42:47 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 11:47:18 * clokep will be back soon. 11:47:21 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a2pre) 11:48:52 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 12:07:21 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 12:09:49 <-- Mic has quit (Ping timeout) 12:13:03 --> rikki has joined #instantbird 12:13:29 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 12:14:05 <-- rikki1 has quit (Ping timeout) 12:19:47 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 12:35:23 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 12:37:07 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 12:43:27 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 12:43:38 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 12:43:39 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 12:45:37 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 12:46:21 <clokep_work> Hello. :) 12:56:56 --> DetroitLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 13:04:17 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 13:11:30 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 13:13:25 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 13:15:19 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 14:02:57 <clokep_work> This would be kind of awesome to support for commands: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nettalk.png 14:12:17 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 14:12:36 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 14:15:25 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 14:20:34 <-- rikki has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 14:37:00 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 14:42:09 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 14:48:13 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 14:50:35 <clokep_work> #ChatZilla never seems too interested in talking. :P 15:09:43 <flo> clokep_work: if we get a SoC student for a JS protocol, would you like to mentor it? 15:11:26 <clokep_work> Yes, although I'd have to fall back on you sometimes. 15:11:38 <flo> ok :) 15:12:48 --> zachlr has joined #instantbird 15:13:46 <-- Ornthalas has quit (Quit: KTHXBYE) 15:18:49 <clokep_work> So Skype having big banner ads in it makes me think they wouldn't like other programs having direct access to the protocol. :-/ 15:19:22 <flo> if they make the user experience crappy, users will switch :) 15:20:31 * flo wonders if the "Voice and video" project fits the mozilla reusability criteria 15:21:35 <flo> I guess playing with the microphone, the webcam and audio/video codecs is reusable in any communication application 15:30:19 --> mark76 has joined #instantbird 15:31:34 <-- mark76 has left #instantbird () 15:34:09 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 15:35:54 --> mark76 has joined #instantbird 15:37:51 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 15:43:14 <clokep_work> Yeah, actually it's just one banner ad on the "Home Screen" o rsomtehing, which I don't even view, so that's OK w/ me. ;) 15:43:24 <clokep_work> "Voice and Video" is pretty general. :) 15:43:50 <flo> not like digsby who put it "in the conversation window because they care about not cluttering the buddy list"? ;) 15:44:31 <flo> clokep_work: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Community:SummerOfCode11:Brainstorming#Instantbird 15:46:22 <-- sonny has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 15:47:00 <clokep_work> flo: Account import could also import from Thunderbird / OS address books? 15:47:41 <flo> you mean detect if Thunderbird knows a gmail address and its password? 15:48:21 <clokep_work> I meant from the address book, there's a field for instant messaging names...but I guess we wouldn't know which account to connect to that from. :-D 15:48:53 <flo> Isn't syncing the address book part of the Sync project? :-D 15:49:08 <clokep_work> Yes, I guess that makes more sense. :) 15:49:20 <clokep_work> Idk about detecting gmail accounts, that wouldn't make sense I don't think. 15:49:44 <clokep_work> For JS protos, should we add a comment that Twitter / IRC have already been implemented. 15:49:48 <flo> "hey, your email address is a gmail one, go chat with it! :P" :) 15:50:08 <flo> hmm. Feel free to add that :). 15:50:33 <flo> But if a student says he want to implement IRC or twitter... it means he hasn't read our blog, so probably doesn't care much about the project anyway 15:53:06 <clokep_work> It should be easy to "store and sync" logs on the remote server, not just store them? 15:54:00 <clokep_work> Eh whatever, it's fine. :) 15:54:29 <flo> yes. Feel free to edit if you want. The title is "easily search-able and sync-able storage" so I guess some interested student will guess :) 15:57:42 <clokep_work> Not many random submitted ideas. :-X 15:57:45 <-- micahg has quit (NickServ (GHOST command used by micahg1)) 15:57:46 --> micahg1 has joined #instantbird 15:57:58 * micahg1 is now known as micahg 16:01:12 <-- micahg has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 16:01:55 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 16:02:12 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 16:03:14 <clokep_work> See the Unified Communications add-on SoC idea on there? ;) 16:03:29 <flo> I'm not sure of what that's supposed to be 16:03:39 <clokep_work> Me neither. 16:10:20 --> Mathnerd314 has joined #instantbird 16:11:07 <clokep_work> I uploaded my implementation of a socket now, but It's kind of MPL? I have to see if Ir eally used any code from him or not. :-X 16:13:12 <flo> do you know which parts are MPL? 16:14:54 <clokep_work> Most of the actual code is tri-licensed (CZ originally which was relicensed to tri, and a lot of it was rewritten be me as well), but the object concept is definitely from the MPL'd file. 16:15:23 <flo> email the author maybe? :) 16:15:32 <clokep_work> For the diff: http://hg.instantbird.org/experiments/diff/d4326febed80/modules/mozSocket.jsm 16:15:35 <clokep_work> I did a couple days ago. :) 16:15:46 <flo> and no reply? 16:15:47 <flo> :-S 16:16:00 <clokep_work> Not yet. 16:21:56 <clokep_work> Is the :-S for the diff or the email? 16:23:43 <flo> the "a couple days ago" ;) 16:24:52 <clokep_work> It wasn't last night, but the night before right before I went to bed. 16:24:58 <clokep_work> Idk what timezone he's in, etc. 16:25:32 <clokep_work> Firebot told me he was last seen 49 weeks ago. :-X 16:42:38 <clokep_work> Atlhough who knows if that's a "real" email address he has there too. :-/ 16:43:43 <flo> maybe google the real name? 16:43:51 <flo> or add him as friend on facebook? :-D 16:45:19 <clokep_work> :P Googling his handle first. 17:00:12 <clokep_work> Well he made a slashdot post yesterday. So he's alive. ;) 17:00:40 <flo> ahah :) 17:01:24 <-- Even has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a2pre) 17:01:27 * flo pushed the fix for Mic's bug 17:02:10 <flo> Good evening :) 17:02:11 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a2pre) 17:02:54 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/a10138b04637 - Florian Quèze - Avoid loading external links inside the conversation when the external browser is misconfigured. 17:07:08 <-- mark76 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 17:38:20 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 18:21:28 --> mark76 has joined #instantbird 18:32:46 <-- zachlr has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 19:01:39 --> skeledrew1 has joined #instantbird 19:03:24 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 19:04:16 * skeledrew1 is now known as skeledrew 19:16:39 <-- clokep_work has quit (Connection timed out) 19:20:44 <-- skeledrew has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a2pre) 19:21:19 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 19:27:22 --> Even has joined #instantbird 19:27:22 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 19:27:43 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 19:27:43 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 19:33:18 --> Ornthalas has joined #instantbird 19:43:58 --> linuxwizard has joined #instantbird 20:05:41 --> flo has joined #instantbird 20:05:41 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 20:06:12 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 20:16:15 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 20:23:14 --> mokush has joined #instantbird 20:25:52 <clokep_work> flo: Why is bug 39 assigned to you? It sounds more like a WONTFIX to me? 20:25:55 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39 enh, P5, ---, florian, UNCO, Extending XMPP (transport, service discovery) support via additional software. 20:26:36 <flo> I was the default assignee for "Instantbird (UI)" and "purplexpcom" before I created the nobody account. 20:26:50 * clokep_work doesn't know what to reply on bug 685. :( "Do it yourself if you want it?" :P 20:26:54 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=685 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Add Google Talk (XMPP) to SMS transports 20:27:37 <flo> so, assigned to me without the "ASSIGNED" status is not really assigned 20:27:48 <flo> clokep_work: https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=@florian 20:28:19 <flo> isn't bug 39 "implement XMPP in JS" (+ a big troll sitting in there :-D)? :) 20:28:23 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39 enh, P5, ---, florian, UNCO, Extending XMPP (transport, service discovery) support via additional software. 20:28:59 <flo> clokep_work: do you need to reply anything at all in that bug? 20:29:59 <clokep_work> Yes, I think #39 is that. (I'll walk away slowly.) 20:30:06 <clokep_work> Nah, I guess not. I can just let it rot. :-D 20:30:40 <clokep_work> I think bug 61 depends on bug 102. ;) 20:30:43 <flo> we can file a clean bug and mark the troll as duplicate once ready :) 20:30:44 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61 nor, --, ---, florian, UNCO, Sametime: buddy list not loaded fully after connect 20:30:45 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102 maj, --, ---, florian, NEW, Sametime protocol support is lost. 20:31:00 <flo> can we make a meta "who cares?" bug? ;) 20:33:01 <clokep_work> Please. :) I'm gonna unassign all those bugs then. 20:33:06 <clokep_work> (And get rid of the priority?) 20:33:49 <flo> they have a priority too? 20:33:57 <clokep_work> Some have a P5 priority. 20:34:06 <clokep_work> (All really old ones.) 20:34:09 <flo> bah... have we ever used the priority field in any way? 20:34:24 <flo> I just mass changed them to unassign me :( 20:34:34 <flo> I should have changed that in the same bugspamail :-S 20:35:56 <clokep_work> It's fine. ;) And I don't think we ever have used it. 20:36:04 <clokep_work> We don't even use blocking flags AFAIK. :P 20:36:39 <flo> are there still active (requestable) blocking flags? 20:36:47 <clokep_work> I don't think so. 20:39:10 <Mathnerd314> I count 307 bugs... how many LOC is Instantbird? 20:39:20 <-- sonny has left #instantbird () 20:39:30 <clokep_work> "LOC"? 20:39:42 <Mathnerd314> lines of code 20:39:53 <clokep_work> There's 347 bugs open. 20:40:02 <clokep_work> Mostly enhancements. :) 20:40:41 <flo> oh man, why am I looking again in libpurple's blist.c :( 20:41:00 <flo> each time I see how many "remove" calls there are in functions named "*_add_*" I feel sick :-S 20:41:05 <Mathnerd314> clokep_work: right, I forgot to include unconfirmed bugs 20:41:37 <flo> Mathnerd314: are you trying to calculate a bug count per line of code? :-D 20:41:47 <Mathnerd314> yeah... 20:42:13 <flo> is it better to have more or less bugs per LOC? :) 20:42:23 <Mathnerd314> less, I think 20:42:46 <flo> if we have less, it means we have huge amouts of code doing nothing useful (so causing no bug) :) 20:43:14 <flo> if we have more, it means we have an active community of bug reporters :) 20:43:19 <clokep_work> There's also a variety of ways to calculate a line of code, no? 20:43:25 <DGMurdockIII> is mic MIA 20:43:31 <clokep_work> (comments, white space, whether { } count.) 20:43:45 <clokep_work> Mic has been pretty busy I think? But he reads the logs when he can? 20:43:47 <Mathnerd314> clokep_work: bytes 20:44:35 <flo> MIA means? 20:44:58 <DGMurdockIII> missing in action 20:45:25 <clokep_work> Bytes? Haha. :) 1/3rd of that is probably the MPL license then. ;) 20:45:27 <flo> DGMurdockIII: ok. No, he reported an useful bug this morning ;) 20:45:55 <DGMurdockIII> k 20:46:15 <flo> well, the bug wasn't useful. The report was. :) 20:46:19 <Mathnerd314> clokep_work: it's just out of curiosity 20:47:09 <flo> Mathnerd314: you can try to calculate it if you like :) 20:47:27 <flo> it's probably relatively easy with find and wc 20:47:41 <clokep_work> Yeah, I'd be curious (especially if you have something to compare to?), was just making a (bad) joke. 20:49:41 <DGMurdockIII> i like the new comic bubble when i click or hover over someone on the buddy list 20:49:41 <Mathnerd314> flo: close https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27 ? 20:49:44 <instantbot> Bug 27 maj, P5, ---, nobody, UNCO, Error loading purplexpcom with SELinux 20:49:45 <clokep_work> I'm sure that someone has a script to do it. :P 20:56:42 <flo> $ (find instantbird/ purple/ -name '*.js' -o -name '*.jsm' -o -name '*.xml' -o -name '*.xul' -o -name '*.manifest' -o -name '*.cpp' -o -name '*.idl' ; find purple/purplexpcom/src/ -name '*.h' )|xargs cat |wc -l 20:56:44 <flo> 39108 20:58:02 <flo> ah, I forgot CSS files 20:58:25 <flo> $ (find instantbird/ purple/ -name '*.css' -o -name '*.js' -o -name '*.jsm' -o -name '*.xml' -o -name '*.xul' -o -name '*.manifest' -o -name '*.cpp' -o -name '*.idl' ; find purple/purplexpcom/src/ -name '*.h' )|xargs cat |wc -l 20:58:26 <flo> 44719 20:59:00 <clokep_work> Why wouldn't you just include all files? What are you trying to ignore? Images? 20:59:09 <clokep_work> You forgot .h files. 20:59:14 <flo> libpurple 20:59:27 <clokep_work> Ah, got it. :) 20:59:53 <flo> and also, various useless files in my local copy (.js~, ...) 21:00:08 <clokep_work> ~130 lines per bug. 21:00:09 <flo> I did count .h files 21:01:59 <flo> do FIXED bugs count? :) 21:02:46 <clokep_work> I think it's current bugs only. ;) 21:03:40 <flo> void (*update)(PurpleBuddyList *list, PurpleBlistNode *node); /**< This will update a node in the buddy list. */ 21:03:40 <flo> void (*remove)(PurpleBuddyList *list, PurpleBlistNode *node); /**< This removes a node from the list */ 21:03:46 * flo hates that kind of documentation :( 21:05:43 <clokep_work> I was just saying that earlier to my team at work. :) 21:05:45 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 21:06:00 <clokep_work> computeArea(vertices) % Computes the area 21:06:04 <clokep_work> No, really? :P 21:06:05 <flo> what? That documentation that doesn't document anything is crap, not documentation? :) 21:06:13 <clokep_work> Yup. 21:06:34 <flo> clokep_work: actually, the _add_ function that actually removes the buddy could really need a better documentation than "add the buddy" ;) 21:07:48 <DGMurdockIII> im still geting that update bug 21:08:58 <DGMurdockIII> https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=641 21:09:01 <instantbot> Bug 641 min, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Failing to apply update immediately because "Instantbird is still running", before: "instantbird Aut 21:09:04 <DGMurdockIII> that one 21:09:42 <flo> that blist.c file could really benefit from a rewrite :-/ 21:11:06 <clokep_work> DGMurdockIII: I randomly get it, but there's no pattern. :-/ 21:11:15 <clokep_work> flo: s/blist.c/libpurple/ ;) 21:11:39 <DGMurdockIII> 2(clokep_work2): same 21:12:05 <clokep_work> I probably get it...once a month? Maybe a little more...I get it occasionally with Fx and Tb too though. 21:12:16 <flo> clokep_work: uh, yeah... Some parts are more acceptable than others though :). 21:14:50 <clokep_work> So Even has disappering buddies now, right? I no longer seem to be having that problem with the "new" buddy list. 21:15:43 <flo> I really prefer bugs that have steps to reproduce ;) 21:20:09 <flo> "It's a safe assumption that SOMETHING called this function." uh. Sure :) 21:22:04 <clokep_work> Comparing to Pidgin's blist? 21:22:58 <flo> Pidgin blist doesn't handle what I'm trying to fix 21:23:10 <flo> it never shows buddies of disconnected accounts 21:24:13 <flo> I'm trying to receive a signal when a buddy of a disconnected accounts ("unknown" status in Instantbird, nothing accessible from the UI in Pidgin) becomes a disconnected buddy of a connected account 21:27:19 <clokep_work> Ah. 21:27:40 <clokep_work> This to fix Even's bug? 21:28:51 <flo> no. It's to display the status name (if there's no status text) in the second line of selected contact. 21:30:13 <flo> I have a fix, except that "Unknown" doesn't change to "Offline" when the account is connected. 21:30:40 <flo> the lack of signal in that case was a known bug of the js blist, but it wasn't visible in the UI yet :) 21:31:11 <clokep_work> Ooooo. I see. :) 21:38:53 <flo> waah, the statusType getter is executed 9 times when the account is disconnected, and 16 times when the account connects (if the buddy is online)! 21:48:08 <clokep_work> That sounds like a lot. :) 21:48:22 <clokep_work> I hope it at least caches the value or something. 21:48:36 <flo> it calls into libpurple 21:48:47 <clokep_work> Ohhhh, so no. We can't. 21:49:05 <flo> when the value is correctly cached, my printf doesn't appear :) 21:55:30 --> Chaz6 has joined #instantbird 21:55:34 <flo> bah, the _updateStatus method of the buddy prototype calls it at least 4 times for each status change :-S 21:55:52 <flo> Chaz6: hello. Welcome back :) 21:56:19 <clokep_work> All part of libpurple though? They couldn't just store it? ;) 21:56:41 <Chaz6> Hey flo! Thanks :) 21:56:44 <flo> no, I'm in imContact.js 21:56:50 <flo> *imContacts.js 21:57:00 <clokep_work> Ah well...I guess you can't blame libpurple then. :-D 21:57:35 <flo> I would need a very strange logic for that :) 21:58:56 <flo> I'm not sure if I should fix that or not. It doesn't make much sense to optimize something if we haven't been annoyed by its slowness before 21:59:29 * clokep_work doesn't know. 21:59:35 <clokep_work> I'm gonna head out. Bye. 21:59:39 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 22:16:18 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: get satisfied!  :: core-networks.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 22:29:58 <-- mark76 has quit (Client exited) 22:31:06 --> mark76 has joined #instantbird 23:00:53 <-- mokush has quit (Client exited) 23:06:22 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 23:07:05 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: get satisfied!  :: core-networks.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 23:39:08 <flo> Good night 23:39:12 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a2pre) 23:43:43 <-- mark76 has left #instantbird () 23:46:25 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 23:46:25 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 23:47:16 <-- Ornthalas has quit (Quit: KTHXBYE)