#instantbird log on 02 14 2011

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00:00:01 <Mook> yeah, I never liked tortoise* / gitcheetah
00:00:22 <Mook> I just *don't* want my version control system in my file browser.
00:00:59 <clokep> Mmmm fair enough.
00:01:12 <clokep> I like ToirtoiseHg, though I've been using the command line a lot more recently.
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00:17:06 <clokep> Pidgin 2.7.10 was released, great. :)
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01:44:51 topic changed by sand.mozilla.org to "Ask questions about Instantbird here. Official website: http://www.instantbird.com. Latest release: 0.2. Read http://blog.instantbird.org/. Nightlies: http://nightly.instantbird.im/ (testing purpose only), IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/. | Today's nightly is broken, update coming soon..."
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13:20:36 <clokep_work> Good morning. :)
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17:36:11 <flo> hello :)
17:38:42 <DGMurdockIII> hi
17:41:29 <clokep_work> Good afternoon/evening.
17:48:01 <DGMurdockIII> hi
17:48:51 <DGMurdockIII> error: revision not found: 26421a3b68f3
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17:56:07 <Mook_as> hmm. how do I merge two buddies into one? (they're the same person, with two accounts on one protocol)
17:56:34 <Mook_as> perhaps I should try 0.3a1 instead of 0.2 :p
17:56:57 <clokep_work> Mook_as: The backend code is there, but the UI isn't done yet. You can edit the sqlite database though. ;)
17:57:04 <Mook_as> haha
17:57:16 <Mook_as> I'll live with the dupe for now.
18:00:34 <clokep_work> It's on the list of stuff to do, I'm not sure when it'll be worked on. :(
18:00:48 <Mook_as> when I get a round tuit, presumably :)
18:03:20 <flo> clokep_work: it was my plan for this week
18:03:55 <flo> but I haven't started yet and don't know how much work there is to get it to work, so I'm really not sure
18:06:25 <clokep_work> Awesome. :)
18:06:32 <clokep_work> I'd kind of like it too...
18:06:43 <clokep_work> My plan for the week is commands in IRC.
18:06:47 <clokep_work> And I need to do my laundry. :P
18:08:57 <flo> that stupid "status changes not handled by JS plugins" (especially twitter) annoy me
18:09:26 <flo> and I've another bug to file: with the JS command rewrite, I'm almost sure I broke all commands in override protocols.
18:09:32 <Mook_as> that stupid "I am not hacking on random stuff like ib full time" annoys me. alas, work. :p
18:11:32 <clokep_work> I can agree w/ that. :(
18:13:18 <flo> Mook_as: that stupid "I don't have millions of $$$ to hire people to work full time in ib" annoys me ;)
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18:36:19 <clokep_work> Speaking of people helping out...are those students working on projects yet? Did they officially choose them?
18:37:24 <flo> they are supposed to work on them, yes.
18:38:03 <Mook_as> <3 your confidence
18:38:04 <flo> as far as I know, only one has really started. (the one about undoing the conversation-close actions)
18:38:26 <flo> Mook_as: you've been student, right? ;)
18:38:51 <Mook_as> it depended on what subject :)
18:39:57 <flo> yeah, you have those who are interested and start at the beginning, and those who need a grade, who will start the last week ;)
18:41:17 <clokep_work> When's the semester end?
18:41:30 * clokep_work needs to know when to be really mean to people coming onto IRC with development questions. O:-)
18:42:11 <flo> ahah
18:42:22 <flo> you are too confident
18:42:56 <flo> those who don't take it seriously will most likely not make the effort of talking in english ;)
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18:46:09 <clokep_work> Ah, true. :( I hope you get to grade them. :P
18:47:45 <flo> I did last year, but I'm not mean ;)
18:50:44 <clokep_work> Well hopefully we at least get some interesting stuff out, that's the more important part for us.
18:50:47 <clokep_work> And hopefully they learn. ;)
18:50:51 <clokep_work> Even if forced too haha.
18:52:21 <flo> an interesting side effect of the experiment last year was that we learned where were the hard parts (or likely errors) of getting a self-compiled builds, and improved most of that with clear error messages so that we no longer answer the same questions.
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18:57:55 <clokep_work> Well that's a good benefit at least. :) Anyone from last year stick with it or give patches or anything?
18:58:55 <flo> no
18:59:31 <flo> one out of the 3 students liked the experience and may have continued, but it didn't happen
18:59:38 <flo> the 2 others made if "for the grade"
19:01:29 <Mook_as> eh, I did a project in univ. relating to tbird too. didn't continue, because hacking on that just wasn't interesting :)
19:06:08 <flo> I guess one needs to use it to actually become interested in hacking it ;)
19:07:05 <Mook_as> oh, I use tbird (and still do, daily)
19:07:52 <flo> :)
19:08:12 <flo> Good evening (I may be back in a few hours, but I'm really not sure)
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19:09:47 <sabret00the_> Anyone seeing problems with stability lately? I feel like I'm getting more irregular crashes
19:14:19 <clokep_work> sabret00the_: Do you have crash logs of them?
19:15:12 <sabret00the_> probably, they're created automatically right?
19:16:19 <sabret00the_> one crash that i get every single time is that if i hibernate the system and then turn windows back on. I'm 100% guaranteed a crash
19:17:07 <clokep_work> Do you use OSCAR? (AIM/ICQ)?
19:17:13 <clokep_work> Or maybe MySpace?
19:19:36 <sabret00the_> both
19:19:50 <clokep_work> (You can get the crash logs by typing openDialog("about:crashes"); into your error console.)
19:19:59 <clokep_work> MySpace was crashing for me whenever I changed status.
19:20:09 <clokep_work> OSCAR crashes for me occasionally when I would hibernate.
19:26:54 <sabret00the_> I was getting a huge bunch of crashes when I was doing contact list management a while back
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19:30:17 <clokep_work> I'm not sure.
19:30:21 <clokep_work> If oyu have the logs we can check 'em out. :)
19:40:40 <sabret00the_> I can't rightclick in the about crashes screen
19:40:54 <sabret00the_> how do i copy/paste crash links?
19:44:53 <clokep_work> When you click the link, doesn't it open in your default browser?
19:44:59 <clokep_work> If not there should be an ID somewhere on that page.
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19:46:39 <sabret00the_> it opens in some instantbird window
19:47:17 <sabret00the_> bp-da1aa587-9499-4447-804b-cc0de2110214
19:47:23 <sabret00the_> bp-8e249132-0163-40e0-9b75-a08812110214
19:47:31 <sabret00the_> bp-7f87f859-34e9-48c0-aa68-896972110213
19:48:58 <clokep_work> Bah I don't remember the crash logs site. I'll look when I get home though.
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22:01:24 <sabret00the_> Can anyone remember the bug numbers for aero peek/win7 integration. i.e. i should be able to navigate to each conversation from the taskbar with a hover and a click
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22:17:32 <clokep> sabret00the_: I don't know what http://crash-stats.instantbird.com/report/index/8e249132-0163-40e0-9b75-a08812110214 is, but the other two are bug 567
22:17:35 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=567 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Crash [@ msim_status_text ] in the myspace protocol plugin.
22:18:09 <clokep> And the aero integration is either bug 619 or one of it's dependents.
22:18:11 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=619 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, OS specific status display and shortcut menus
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