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00:01:46 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 00:01:46 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 00:18:36 <-- mark76 has left #instantbird () 00:18:48 <-- sabret00the has quit (Ping timeout) 00:37:08 <-- clokep has quit (Connection timed out) 00:37:18 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 00:37:18 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 00:39:13 <-- Ornthalas has quit (Quit: KTHXBYE) 00:40:30 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a2pre) 00:40:35 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 00:40:35 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 00:52:52 <-- Mathnerd314 has quit (Ping timeout) 01:02:50 --> Mathnerd314 has joined #instantbird 01:25:59 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 01:27:37 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 01:35:42 <clokep> Eek, flo Linux on commit failed. :( (As I'm sure you know....) 01:47:04 <-- clokep has quit (Connection timed out) 01:47:08 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 01:47:09 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 02:12:08 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 02:17:08 --> mepine has joined #instantbird 02:35:26 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 02:37:38 <-- clokep has quit (Connection timed out) 02:37:42 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 02:37:42 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 03:10:42 --> rikki has joined #instantbird 03:17:35 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a2pre) 03:22:46 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: get satisfied!  :: core-networks.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 03:38:23 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 04:13:06 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 04:33:16 <-- linuxwizard has left #instantbird () 04:52:50 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 05:15:55 * tymerkaev is now known as tymerkaev_away 05:16:05 * tymerkaev_away is now known as tymerkaev 05:45:43 <-- Mathnerd314 has quit (Input/output error) 06:17:04 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 07:06:16 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.2/20100222071121]) 07:44:28 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 07:49:42 --> Ornthalas has joined #instantbird 08:05:57 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 09:14:44 --> iLobster has joined #instantbird 09:17:03 <iLobster> Greetings 10:09:35 --> Andrey has joined #instantbird 10:43:26 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 11:18:52 <-- mepine has quit (Connection reset by peer) 11:19:57 --> ron has joined #instantbird 11:20:52 <-- Andrey has quit (Ping timeout) 11:30:37 --> Andrey has joined #instantbird 11:31:52 <-- ron has quit (Ping timeout) 11:32:32 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 12:20:20 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 12:33:08 --> flo has joined #instantbird 12:33:08 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 12:33:26 <flo> hello :) 12:35:17 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 12:50:49 <-- Andrey has quit (Quit: ) 13:00:19 <-- Ornthalas has quit (Ping timeout) 13:00:51 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 13:00:52 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 13:04:26 --> Ornthalas has joined #instantbird 13:08:25 <clokep_work> Linux nightly failed too. :( 13:09:31 <flo> why "too"? 13:11:05 <clokep_work> on commit did as well 13:11:09 <flo> ah, stupid mistake :( 13:11:28 <clokep_work> Although since there weren't any changes between them, I shouldn' be surprised. :) 13:12:15 <flo> If I had known the (stupid) cause of the failure, I could have pushed a fix yesterday evening :( 13:12:33 <flo> loading the full build log from my phone definitely wouldn't have worked ;) 13:14:04 <clokep_work> Bah, SVN gave me a message I was out of date...yet I was the last commit. That makes sense. :P 13:14:14 <clokep_work> Haha, the build logs are loooooooonnnnnngggg 13:15:14 <flo> I wish buildbot could provide a "tail" link :( 13:16:43 <clokep_work> That'd be ticket 32. ;) http://trac.buildbot.net/ticket/32 13:18:23 <flo> clokep_work: by the way, buildbot now supports gzipping the log on the server's disk, but not for the HTTP download, which is completely stupid... 13:20:49 <clokep_work> That's lame. 13:25:15 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 13:26:03 <deOmega> good morning. Last night's nightly is broken. I am unable to view any account when connected or get into anything 13:26:37 <clokep_work> deOmega: Are there errors in the error console? Please pastebin them. 13:26:50 <-- deOmega has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1) 13:27:36 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 13:27:54 <deOmega> sorry, was trying to minimize 13:30:39 <clokep_work> OK. :) 13:32:09 <deOmega> is there a way to find the previous night's nightly so one can revert to it if there is aproblem 13:32:41 <deOmega> Whenever i run into these problems... i have such problems getting sstarted 13:33:23 * flo upgrades to see if there'll be problems on the mac build too 13:33:26 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a2pre) 13:33:53 <clokep_work> deOmega: Every nightly is on the ftp site. 13:34:00 <clokep_work> http://ftp.instantbird.org or something. 13:35:28 --> Even has joined #instantbird 13:35:28 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 13:36:14 <clokep_work> deOmega: So last nights are at http://ftp.instantbird.org/instantbird/nightly/2011/02/2011-02-10-04-instantbird/ 13:36:24 <clokep_work> s/last nights/two nights ago/ 13:36:33 <deOmega> thank you clokep. I promise you guys i am not as dense as i may appear, but the messenger overall is really not my focus, so.. a lot of things really slips my memory/common sense. 13:37:33 <deOmega> Thank you clokep 13:38:08 --> flo has joined #instantbird 13:38:08 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 13:38:38 <deOmega> does it work flo? 13:38:45 <flo> deOmega: I'm sorry :( 13:38:55 <flo> I've pushed a fix and requested a new nightlyy 13:39:19 <deOmega> ah, ok, thank you very much 13:39:21 <flo> it will need at least 2 hours before being ready 13:39:36 <clokep_work> deOmega: No problem, sorry if I seem terse -- at work. 13:40:48 <flo> I'm currently running my default profile on the debug build 13:40:51 <deOmega> Not at all, you are fine clokep. Thanks flo 13:41:57 <clokep_work> flo must be confident. ;) 13:42:08 <flo> about what? 13:42:45 <-- deOmega has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1) 13:43:57 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/2a7327c35427 - Florian Quèze - Fix bustage caused by 4e8ee81dc102 (bug 118). 13:44:07 <clokep_work> Running your default profile. 13:45:56 <clokep_work> Ah, a packaging bustage again? We're not good at those. :-x 13:46:09 <flo> bah, it'll be interesting to see how many error messages I have in the terminals for things I've never noticed before :) 13:46:28 <flo> clokep_work: yeah, that's completely stupid. That's why I said I'm sorry :-S 13:50:59 <clokep_work> Mmhmm. I didn't notice either. :) What's next? 13:51:12 <clokep_work> Seems some people are interested in the alpha btw...at least on Twitter. ;) 13:51:13 <flo> filing bugs maybe 13:52:05 <clokep_work> flo: The Jabber code in libpurple has a separate subdirectory for google talk...are we actually using any of that code? 13:52:13 <flo> probably 13:52:25 <flo> I think the server announces itself as been a google server 13:53:32 <clokep_work> Hm. OK. Cause it seems on gtalk is just a raw override of jabber? But maybe there's more magic I don't understand. 13:54:02 * clokep_work had another question he forgets. 13:54:18 <flo> there's definitely some magic on the libpurple side ;) 13:57:23 <flo> this is the first part of the debug output I have in my terminal, when using the debug build with my default profile: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/564 13:57:36 <flo> (pastebin doesn't seem to accept longer pastes :-D) 13:58:47 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 13:59:03 <flo> deOmega: welcome back ;) 13:59:25 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Client exited) 14:00:00 <flo> the only warnings that I'm not used to seeing while running the debug build are: 14:00:00 <flo> Chrome file doesn't exist: /Users/florian/buildhg/obj-instantbird-dbg/mozilla/dist/InstantbirdDebug.app/Contents/MacOS/chrome/instantbird/content/branding/icon48.png 14:00:00 <flo> Chrome file doesn't exist: /Users/florian/buildhg/obj-instantbird-dbg/mozilla/dist/InstantbirdDebug.app/Contents/MacOS/chrome/toolkit/skin/classic/mozapps/update/warning.gif 14:00:09 <deOmega> thank you. things are back to normal 14:00:32 <clokep_work> That's a lot of errors/warnings. :) 14:01:02 <flo> debug builds are slower ;) 14:01:34 <deOmega> I had a question but the order in which to ask it has slipped my mind lol 14:02:03 <deOmega> I need a vacation. 14:02:49 <deOmega> heck.... flo... in your slideshow or somewhere, you poiinted out that when using messengers such as, say MSN... 14:02:56 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 14:03:08 <deOmega> one does not know what happens to their message history 14:03:26 <flo> I said that about meebo.com, gmail.com and Facebook.com 14:03:44 <flo> but it's most likely true for MSN too. (just, my point was about messengers on websites) 14:03:46 <deOmega> ok, thank you 14:05:24 <deOmega> OK, I think in my mind i was thinking that somehow.. IB intercept these services ability to hold yoru history and bring it locally where the user controls it. I am sure you did not mean that, but I thik that was my impression 14:06:31 <flo> it's something we want to do someday 14:06:58 <deOmega> well, THAT would be ABSOLUTELY awesome. 14:07:09 <flo> unfortunately we can do it only if we are sure there's instantbird (or a compatible messenger using the same encryption technology) on both ends of the communication. 14:07:32 <deOmega> Ok 14:08:00 <flo> so the difficult part is to find a way to detect the Instantbird (or compatible messenger at the other end) without putting garbage in all conversations for other messengers 14:08:50 --> DetoritLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 14:09:20 <deOmega> That would certainly be another selling point for IB.. when that day comes. Thank you. 14:09:35 topic changed by flo to "Ask questions about Instantbird here. Official website: http://www.instantbird.com. Latest release: 0.2. Read http://blog.instantbird.org/. Nightlies: http://nightly.instantbird.im/ (testing purpose only), IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/. | Today's nightly is broken, sorry! :(" 14:10:08 <flo> deOmega: the technology for that already exists. One of our long term objectives is to make it usable for everybody :) 14:11:15 <-- DetoritLibertyPenguin has left #instantbird () 14:11:35 <deOmega> I really appreciate the objective of making it simple enough so that mom and pop can launch it and simply use it... but with advance options under the hood. 14:12:17 <flo> I would like if it could not be an option, but just work for everybody whenever it's possible :) 14:12:55 --> DetoritLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 14:13:03 <-- DetoritLibertyPenguin has left #instantbird () 14:13:10 <flo> I don't like options. Most people want to use the software, not play with dozens of checkboxes in a preference dialog :) 14:13:21 topic changed by flo to "Ask questions about Instantbird here. Official website: http://www.instantbird.com. Latest release: 0.2. Read http://blog.instantbird.org/. Nightlies: http://nightly.instantbird.im/ (testing purpose only), IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/. | Today's nightly is broken, update coming soon..." 14:13:48 <deOmega> There are some things that a messenger should simply do immediately after install. So looking forward to reaching that objective 14:14:43 --> DetoritLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 14:14:47 <-- DetoritLibertyPenguin has quit (Quit: DetoritLibertyPenguin) 14:15:22 <deOmega> I believe that a hurdle may be.. what one thinks people may want and what is expected through years of familiarity with other messengers. 14:16:43 <deOmega> Anyway, thanks for the continuing work. Have a great day all 14:16:54 <flo> have a great day and week-end :) 14:17:13 <-- deOmega has left #instantbird () 14:19:15 * clokep_work started implementing commands for IRC last night. 14:19:23 <flo> cool :) 14:20:28 <clokep_work> How do you access the help string btw? 14:20:32 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a2pre) 14:21:17 <-- Ornthalas has quit (Quit: KTHXBYE) 14:25:43 * flo just added https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/addon/265/ 14:25:57 <flo> clokep_work: do you mean programatically, or from the UI? 14:26:10 <flo> from the UI you don't :-P 14:26:43 <flo> but I guess it could be useful if we ever provide completion to be able to have a tooltip explaining the point of the command, and its arguments 14:26:58 <clokep_work> OK. So it's not important if I include it? ;) 14:35:25 <flo> bah... :) 14:36:02 <clokep_work> Can we make a /help command that looks them up? Isn't that what chatzilla does? 14:36:19 <clokep_work> (i.e. /help raw would output "blah blah...this is a raw command") 14:36:58 <flo> so /help would provide the list of commands, and /help <command name> would provide the help of that command 14:37:14 <flo> and the help string would be in a system message in the conversation? 14:38:11 <clokep_work> Yes. 14:38:21 <clokep_work> It's like talking to instantbot! :) 14:38:23 <flo> that seems easy to do 14:38:39 <flo> not sure if it's something we need by default or as a nice add-on 14:38:51 <clokep_work> I assume /help would provide a list only for the current protocol. 14:38:57 <clokep_work> I'll file a bug, just so I don't forget. 14:39:13 <flo> s/current protocol/current conversation/ (it will include application global commands too) 14:39:28 <clokep_work> Yes, sorry. I mean current protocol + global. :) 14:39:59 <flo> if you've read the idl file you know that's easy to do anyway ;) 14:40:15 <clokep_work> Yes, just need to decide if it's the proper behavior. :) 14:40:45 * flo thinks filing a bug is the proper behavior 14:44:46 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 14:46:24 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a2pre) 14:46:35 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 691 filed by clokep@gmail.com. 14:46:37 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=691 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Implement /help command to get information on registered commands 14:49:07 * clokep_work just wrote a 25 line function with 19 lines of comments. 14:52:07 <instantbot> New purplexpcom - General bug 692 filed by florian@instantbird.org. 14:52:10 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, redesign the purpleIMessage xpcom interface 15:00:58 <flo> I guess I should try to file [0.3-blocking/wanted] bugs first ^^ 15:03:47 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout) 15:04:34 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 15:05:08 <clokep_work> Is there a lot? :( 15:05:32 <flo> at least a few of them 15:05:56 <flo> especially if we consider that everything listed on the roadmap is either blocking or wanted, and has likely several dependencies 15:08:48 <clokep_work> Right, those dependencies. ;) 15:09:16 <flo> I'm going to file 2 really annoying bugs first (regressions!) :) 15:14:40 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Ping timeout) 15:15:22 <-- Gizmokid2005 has quit (Ping timeout) 15:18:47 --> Gizmokid2005 has joined #instantbird 15:18:51 <clokep_work> Ah, yes. Regression are good to fix. :) 15:21:28 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 15:21:37 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 15:26:27 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 693 filed by florian@instantbird.org. 15:26:30 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=693 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Copy paste failures in conversation history 15:28:48 <flo> I had a hard time getting the steps to reproduce for this, but countless times I've pasted something that wasn't at all what I expected to paste. Sometimes I even sent it before noticing :( 15:38:33 <clokep_work> That's a nasty bug...which I've never encountered. 15:38:53 <flo> you are lucky :) 15:42:14 <clokep_work> Win32 nightly finished again...but deOmega is gone. ;) 15:43:03 <-- Even has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a2pre) 15:43:10 --> Even has joined #instantbird 15:43:10 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 15:43:18 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 694 filed by florian@instantbird.org. 15:43:21 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=694 tri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Chrome file doesn't exist: branding/icon48.png 15:43:39 <flo> that's not a regression, just that I wanted to close all my tabs related to that :-D 15:43:49 <-- Even has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a2pre) 15:45:20 --> Even has joined #instantbird 15:45:21 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 15:52:04 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 695 filed by florian@instantbird.org. 15:52:07 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=695 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Reconnection timer not displayed 15:59:31 <-- Even has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a2pre) 16:10:32 <-- kaie has quit (Quit: Leaving) 16:37:01 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 16:58:39 --> tymerkaev_away has joined #instantbird 17:06:42 * tymerkaev_away is now known as tymerkaev 17:07:29 * tymerkaev never seen too many people afk on channel :( 17:26:44 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 17:47:05 <-- Gizmokid2005 has quit (Ping timeout) 17:47:28 <-- Seji has quit (Ping timeout) 17:50:47 --> Gizmokid2005 has joined #instantbird 17:56:57 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 17:56:57 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep_work 18:02:11 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 18:03:46 --> Seji has joined #instantbird 18:05:40 --> kaie has joined #instantbird 18:20:01 <-- Gizmokid2005 has quit (Ping timeout) 18:20:45 <-- Seji has quit (Ping timeout) 18:20:47 --> Gizmokid2005 has joined #instantbird 18:20:56 --> Seji has joined #instantbird 18:30:21 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 18:39:51 <-- iLobster has left #instantbird () 19:08:52 --> mokush has joined #instantbird 19:22:08 --> linuxwizard has joined #instantbird 19:35:18 --> Ornthalas has joined #instantbird 19:57:14 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 20:25:33 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 20:51:29 --> kaie2 has joined #instantbird 20:53:40 <-- kaie has quit (Ping timeout) 20:53:41 * kaie2 is now known as kaie 21:15:42 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Client exited) 21:38:41 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 21:49:22 <-- linuxwizard has left #instantbird () 21:54:41 --> flo has joined #instantbird 21:54:41 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 21:55:07 * flo is on a nightly again :) 22:17:13 --> Mathnerd314 has joined #instantbird 22:58:13 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 23:01:09 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird