#instantbird log on 01 31 2011

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00:41:21 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 671 filed by pjdkrunkt@lycos.com.
00:41:24 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=671 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Buddy List needs Search bar
00:44:33 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 671 to DUPLICATE of bug 631.
00:44:35 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=671 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, Buddy List needs Search bar
00:44:36 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=631 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Filtering buddy list
00:49:56 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 672 filed by pjdkrunkt@lycos.com.
00:49:58 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=672 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Conversations need the option to Block a buddy.
00:55:48 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 672 to DUPLICATE of bug 135.
00:55:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=672 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, Conversations need the option to Block a buddy.
00:55:51 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Ignore/Block Buddy
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04:57:05 <clokep> flo: I uploaded an initial cut of separating the socket code out. I'll file a bug later (tomorrow), bed time for me. :)
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07:22:38 <blaphmat> helo
07:23:46 <blaphmat> anybody online?
07:25:10 <blaphmat> i need to ask a question about instantbird
07:25:23 <tymerkaev> hello; just ask
07:26:07 <blaphmat> ok
07:26:17 <blaphmat> well some of my friends are using msn protocol
07:26:24 <blaphmat> but some of my other friends are using google talk
07:26:44 <blaphmat> so can i use google talk account in instant bird and add my msn friend and i can talk with them?
07:29:00 <tymerkaev> if you have both msn and gtalk accounts, of course.
07:29:15 <blaphmat> but if i just want to use gtalk account
07:29:19 <blaphmat> can i add an msn account and talk
07:29:23 <blaphmat> or i need both accounts?
07:29:27 <tymerkaev> no
07:29:37 <blaphmat> so i can use just gtalk?
07:29:37 <tymerkaev> gtalk > gtalk, msn > msn
07:29:41 <blaphmat> oh
07:29:44 <blaphmat> ok
07:30:16 <blaphmat> so what then
07:30:26 <blaphmat> can i make a gmail account into an msn protocol
07:31:14 <tymerkaev> no
07:31:23 <tymerkaev> you need to create both
07:31:23 <blaphmat> lol
07:31:28 <blaphmat> dam its gotta be complicated
07:31:41 <blaphmat> lol
07:31:58 <blaphmat> i have steam account msn account gmail account yahoo account
07:32:04 <blaphmat> why so many damit
07:33:31 <blaphmat> they should be able to cross connect
07:35:35 <blaphmat> oh well
07:35:38 <blaphmat> thanks anyway
07:35:41 <blaphmat> later
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11:15:11 <Mic> Hi
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14:44:02 <clokep> 'morning.
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15:15:32 <deOmega> godo morning.
15:16:37 <deOmega> I tried joining  #instantbird from this link  ..  http://blog.instantbird.org/n30-nightlies-fixed-and-with-upgraded-libpurple.html  and ended up in a room by myself. ##instantbird
15:17:12 <deOmega> Anyway, anyone having problems on windows with teh latest nightly update?  When i send any message, it crashes
15:17:41 <clokep> deOmega: Latest meaning like last nights? ;)
15:17:49 <deOmega> yes
15:18:03 <clokep> I haven't updated yet. I will in a second.
15:18:07 <deOmega> let me  launch it to be specific
15:18:33 <deOmega> version 0.3a1pre (20110131041038)
15:19:36 <clokep> OK, give me a minute or two. :)
15:19:54 <deOmega> no problem at all
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15:21:31 <clokep> Back.
15:21:35 <clokep> Not crashing. ;)
15:21:43 <deOmega> uh oh
15:21:45 <clokep> Do you have crash logs?
15:22:08 <deOmega> it asked me to send the files on crash so i did
15:22:19 <deOmega> how do i ascces crash logsagain? someone  told me once
15:25:45 <deOmega> ah, i have it
15:27:51 <deOmega> state of the application when it  crashed
15:28:13 <deOmega> I won't even file abug as it may be fixed on the next update
15:28:34 <deOmega> do not worry about it... thanks
15:31:49 <clokep> "state of the application when it crashed"? What?
15:32:06 <clokep> You can open the crash logs from openDialogue("about:crashes"); in the error console.
15:34:16 <deOmega> thanks.. crashes when i try o do anything else also.  Let me give it a day and if no resolution  I will report back
15:34:36 <clokep> OK. :)
15:51:16 <flo> that was openDialog, not openDialogue
15:52:11 <instantbot> New purplexpcom - General bug 673 filed by clokep@gmail.com.
15:52:15 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=673 nor, --, ---, clokep, NEW, Implement a general Sockets object for JavaScript protocols
15:56:12 <flo> has anybody here used twitter in the recent nightlies? Any feedback? Anything we really have to fix before releasing an alpha with it?
15:58:36 <clokep> flo: I've been using it as you know. It seems to be pretty good. :)
15:58:53 <clokep> One comment I have is that...the icon for it seems "wrong", it's not /really/ a chat?
15:59:17 <clokep> But that's really it. :)
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15:59:49 <flo> you mean the icon of the timeline tab?
15:59:58 <clokep> Yes.
16:01:09 <clokep> Also, not that it's an issue for me, but if you have multiple accounts they'd both just say "Twitter timeline" maybe something like "@<username> timeline" would be better?
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16:02:59 <flo> Good point! :)
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16:06:51 <flo> it's as easy as http://pastebin.instantbird.com/545
16:10:22 <clokep> Also, does it set containsNick when you get an @ message?
16:10:29 <clokep> flo: That change looks good.
16:10:55 <flo> probably. Weren't you the one implementing that? ;)
16:11:14 <clokep> Yes, but I don't remember whether Twitter sets the "nick" or not.
16:11:40 <flo> wow. Maybe you should review that 1 line patch again ;)
16:11:55 <clokep> Hahah. :)
16:12:49 <clokep> OK, well my point was that it should probably "@" + this.account.name
16:13:23 <clokep> For instance, if my Twitter name is <some common word>, I don't want to be pinged whenever someone uses <some common word>.
16:15:22 <flo> ok, so you would prefer http://pastebin.instantbird.com/546
16:17:56 <clokep> Yeah, that probably makes mroe sense.
16:18:34 <clokep> But it probably depends a bit on how people use the account. For @instantbird...you might want to know everytime "instantbird" is said. :-\
16:19:19 <flo> it's probably why I have teh Highlight add-on installed
16:21:29 <clokep> Right.
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16:31:05 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com added attachment 512 to bug 673.
16:31:06 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 512 on bug 673.
16:31:08 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=673 nor, --, ---, clokep, NEW, Implement a general Sockets object for JavaScript protocols
16:34:21 <flo> clokep: have you tested this code?
16:34:33 <flo> is there an example of usage?
16:35:19 <clokep> flo: Yes, I have tested it. Ah...example usage, I should have put that in. :-[
16:35:42 <flo> I'm puzzled by the fact that all method names start with _
16:35:53 <clokep> flo: Here's the diff of IRC: http://hg.instantbird.org/experiments/rev/a601fdc3aeac
16:36:22 <clokep> Yeah, I should remove them and make a separate data listener object I think?
16:37:11 <flo> send and close are not private, right?
16:38:02 <clokep> No, they're not.
16:38:10 <clokep> So yes, they shouldn't have the _.
16:38:31 <clokep> In my defense I wrote that code after having slept only 3 hours in the past 48. ;)
16:38:49 <flo> is there any way _init can be called from outside the constructor?
16:38:59 <flo> clokep: you don't need any defense, you are not accused ;)
16:39:42 <clokep> flo: I haven't fully worked out what needs to be part of init and what needs to be part of open.
16:40:27 <clokep> init is probably more akin to "open" and open should probably be called "read" or "receive"
16:40:43 <flo> maybe addListener
16:40:49 <flo> and you probably need a read method too
16:41:04 <clokep> addListener?
16:41:16 <flo> some protocols may need to read a defined number of bytes on the socket, rather than until a delimiter
16:41:49 <clokep> Which would change the _pump settings, yes.
16:42:36 <flo> how is the code notified if the connection is closed by the remote host?
16:42:56 <flo> or if the connection fails (for whatever reason)?
16:43:06 <clokep> It is not.
16:45:10 <clokep> Thanks for the things to work on. ;)
16:47:12 <flo> I guess there are 2 ways to look at this: either try to think about a useful API and implement a nice thing, or just put what you have and decide we will think about the rest when needed. (this applies mostly to reading a fixed amount of data instead of "until a delimiter")
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16:48:10 <clokep> I think we should have it handle both cases since I'm sure protocols do it both ways.
16:48:41 <clokep> I'll work the API and make it a little more general I hope. :)
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16:58:40 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org denied review for attachment 512 on bug 673.
16:58:42 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=673 nor, --, ---, clokep, NEW, Implement a general Sockets object for JavaScript protocols
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18:58:55 <yoh> hello
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19:30:08 <flo> clokep: I think you wrote a status update blog post, is it ready to go?
19:30:30 <clokep> flo: It is, but now that we made some lists of what to include in 0.3, we should probably add a paragraph about that.
19:30:40 <clokep> Are you leaving the office right now?
19:30:48 <flo> in 25 minutes
19:31:49 <flo> the 0.3 list is not complete, we still need to file bugs for projects that we want to complete in the 0.3 timeframe but are not ready yet
19:32:20 <clokep> OK.
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19:33:25 <clokep> flo: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/547 Is what I have.
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19:36:45 <clokep> I can give a plaintext version too if you want. ;)
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19:36:58 <flo> I can read HTML, don't worry :)
19:37:05 <igorko> hi guys
19:37:17 <flo> the indentation and like breaks are a little strange in your pastebin
19:39:19 <clokep> flo: I made it with BlueGriffon since I wanted to try it out...I'm not sure how much I like it. :-\
19:40:01 <flo> I don't like its pretty printer ;)
19:40:11 <flo> clokep: http://piratepad.net/EtDlZVj3kl
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19:45:17 <clokep> Not sure exactly how you're formatting it, just removing line breaks mostly.
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19:46:00 <flo> indenting with only 1 space
19:46:10 <flo> and removing line breaks that are not significant
19:46:55 <clokep> OK.
19:47:34 <flo> are there things that we should explain about twitter?
19:48:02 <clokep> Probably some stuff about how the timeline is added.
19:48:09 <clokep> You wrote up something good in the bug about it.
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19:50:28 <clokep> flo: Maybe the bullet points here: https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=598#c9 (except the streaming one...people don't care about that?)
19:50:30 <instantbot> Bug 598 enh, --, 0.3a1, florian, RESO FIXED, Twitter support
19:53:05 <flo> does it look good now?
19:54:08 <clokep> flo: I think it looks good, unless we wanted to add a little more to the paragraph above, but I think it's unnecessary.
19:54:13 <clokep> I wanted to put any end changeset also...
19:54:23 <clokep> (I couldn't find how to give a range.)
19:55:11 <flo> should we wish every one an happy new year? :-D
19:55:19 <clokep> Hahah, maybe. ;)
19:55:52 <flo> "By the way... Happy new year! Yeah... we are late ;)." at the end?
19:56:43 <clokep> Haha. Sounds good. :)
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19:58:27 <clokep> flo: I'm not sure Twitter reconnects properly after falling asleep, etc.
19:58:41 <flo> should try that :)
19:58:45 <flo> and I'm really late
19:58:58 <flo> if you want to be listed as the post author, remind me to edit that in the sql database tomorrow
19:59:00 <flo> good evening!
19:59:02 <flo> /offlien
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19:59:18 <instantbot> Just appeared in Blog@instantbird.org - http://blog.instantbird.org/ :
19:59:19 <instantbot> http://blog.instantbird.org/n35-status-update-november-2010-january-2011.html - Status Update: November 2010 - January 2011
19:59:20 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/70d4ef408f3e - Florian Quèze - Include the nick in twitter timeline conversation title, and match the nick in conversations only when there's a '@' before the username, r=clokep.
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22:22:48 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 604 to WORKSFORME.
22:22:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=604 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO WORKSFORME, Unable to send "expression" over OSCAR (AIM/ICQ)
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