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00:24:49 <flo> Mook: about the floating toolbar, I meant something a bit like what appeared in IE6 (and maybe later) when hovering an image. 00:24:59 <Mook> ah 00:25:03 <flo> I think this also existed on MS Office and was called there "smart tag" or something 00:25:06 <Mook> that would cover part of the message, then? 00:25:20 <Mook> also: requires icons, which is even more style-specific :( 00:25:43 <flo> http://www.dreamingsoft.com/flashcapture/save-flash.htm the 2 first screenshots on this page look related, but I can't find a good screenshot :-/ 00:26:06 <flo> Mook: the icons are part of the skin, not of the message theme 00:26:20 <flo> the buttons would be part of the application UI, not of the conversation content 00:26:45 <flo> and as it's a button, maybe in some cases the button's content can be a text 00:27:01 <Mook> but it would have to be usable for both dark and light background colours 00:28:57 <flo> the button/toolbar would have a background color, so dark/light doesn't depend on the message theme but only on the skin 00:30:40 <-- Ornthalas has quit (Quit: KTHXBYE) 00:31:21 <Mook> hmm, okay 00:31:30 * Mook tries to imagine something that works with both Bubbles and Dark 00:32:13 <flo> think about simple too, where you have little vertical space ;) 00:33:44 <flo> by the way, if you want to continue on the idea of in-content buttons, what about including them in the html of the message with just a <br/><...(buttons)> at the end of the HTML of the message text? 00:35:51 <Mook> that makes it harder to hook up the JS, but... hmm, possibly. 00:36:12 <flo> I'm interested in the floating toolbar/button because there are other interesting usages like a "copy" button when a selection is hovered, and a button to search the selection in the default search engine (we added search engines in the context menu to reduce the number of user interactions needed to search a selection, but I don't think people open the context menu often enough to get used to it) 00:37:12 <flo> what if you don't hook the JS to the buttons at all, but hack the onclick handler of the <browser> so that buttons with a specific attributes make the code look for an action with the same name in the clicked message? 00:47:25 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 00:47:25 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 00:47:44 <Mic> flo, Mook: did you mean this: http://www.windowsitpro.com/Content/UserStorage/3628229/051010IE8MapBingAccelerator.jpg 00:52:11 <flo> Mic: no. Something less fancy/complicated :) 00:52:44 <Mic> That's the accelerator of IE8 that shows that contextual actions are possible 00:52:54 <Mic> (I thought that was what you were referring to) 00:55:09 <Mic> Ah, there was this toolbar on images (I think it contained things like resize, save as, ..) 00:55:19 <Mook> the one on http://windows-xp-dox.net/MS.Press-Insider.Power.Techniq/6843final/images/f15bp05_0.jpg ? 00:55:40 <Mic> yes 00:57:18 <Mic> flo: Fancy, ok, but I wonder what's complicated on the first one. It's just an icon with an attached menu .. 00:57:20 <flo> Mook: that's exactly the screenshot I was looking for but couldn't find! :) 00:57:35 <Mic> You could replace it with a less fancy icon of a stylized context menu or something 00:57:43 <flo> Mic: and the preview above in a panel with an arrow pointing to the menu 00:59:40 <Mic> hehe, you're not serious on this, are you? ;) 01:00:34 <flo> isn't that on your screenshot? 01:05:47 <Mic> I thought you'd ignore this since it isn't exactly a useful addition for options like "Copy".. 01:06:13 <Mic> http://www.zhacks.com/images/disable-internet-explorer-8-accelerator.png then, if you like 01:07:36 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 01:08:01 <flo> yes, a bit like that 01:08:32 <flo> I wouldn't like to have more than 2 or 3 actions, and I would prefer displaying an icon for each action (so that a single click can perform it) 01:09:12 <Mic> ok, so it's rather the toolbar on images than this 01:09:15 <flo> but that's variations around the same idea, and I think we should try it before discussing the details 01:09:59 <flo> I'm not opposed to having a down arrow opening a menu for more action (or just the standard context menu) 01:11:01 <flo> and arrow like this at the end of the toolbar: http://www.add-in-express.com/images/vcl-docs/smart-tag-in-word.gif 01:11:26 <flo> (I dislike the word 2003 colors, but that's irrelevant for a description of the user interactions :)) 01:11:56 <flo> *an arrow like this 01:12:23 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 01:18:30 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 01:20:30 <flo> good night :) 01:37:11 <Mook> (sorry, went afk...) night. 01:49:10 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 01:50:17 <Mic> nn 01:50:23 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 01:55:50 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 02:25:47 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 02:28:48 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 02:30:12 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 02:33:24 --> mepine has joined #instantbird 02:34:47 <-- 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#instantbird 07:42:12 <joshrl> Yeeeaaaaah, this MSN problem still isn't fixed... 07:51:41 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 08:01:39 <-- mepine has quit (Quit: mepine) 08:05:44 --> mepine has joined #instantbird 08:37:24 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 08:51:12 * tymerkaev is now known as tymerkaev_away 08:54:10 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 09:00:40 --> Ornthalas has joined #instantbird 09:05:36 <-- linuxwizard has left #instantbird () 09:16:44 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 09:46:23 --> fendrus has joined #instantbird 09:48:58 * tymerkaev_away is now known as tymerkaev 10:28:28 * tymerkaev is now known as tymerkaev_away 10:34:03 * tymerkaev_away is now known as tymerkaev 11:14:51 <-- Glards has quit (Quit: leaving) 11:19:50 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 11:23:38 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 12:07:29 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 12:29:35 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 12:34:49 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 12:41:48 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 12:48:43 <-- mepine has quit (Quit: é¨ç·£ä¹) 13:00:19 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 13:05:38 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 13:07:53 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 13:09:02 --> Jan has joined #instantbird 13:09:31 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 13:10:33 --> rikki1 has joined #instantbird 13:11:17 <-- rikki has quit (Ping timeout) 13:19:49 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 13:20:51 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 13:21:48 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 13:23:06 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 13:23:10 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 13:23:23 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 13:23:26 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 13:23:46 <igorko> hi guys 13:23:59 <igorko> have info about that topic bug 13:24:23 <igorko> it's related to closing Nickserv tab 13:25:21 <igorko> what is number of bug- want to read comments 13:40:27 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 13:52:50 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 14:06:32 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 14:08:00 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 14:15:57 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 14:19:04 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 14:30:44 <-- Jan has quit (Quit: Jan) 14:33:06 --> Jan has joined #instantbird 14:35:07 --> Glards has joined #instantbird 14:47:22 <-- sonny has quit (Client exited) 14:47:55 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 15:01:04 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 15:14:07 <igorko> flo can you change my email for hg uk locale repo? 15:14:33 <igorko> want to delete current because spam 15:14:55 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 15:20:57 <flo> igorko: email me with your new email ;) 15:31:02 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 15:36:27 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 15:36:28 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 15:41:12 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 15:43:44 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 15:48:49 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 16:04:46 * 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http://adblockplus.org/blog/why-you-do-not-want-to-use-the-load_anonymous-flag means we have a problem :-/ 18:42:19 <Mic> You're doing this for Twitter or IRC js? 18:42:39 <clokep> Twitter. 18:43:28 <flo> and Omegle 18:43:51 <flo> I don't want the server to be able to set cookies and know the same application uses multiple accounts at the same time 18:44:40 <clokep> Yes, seems like we won't be able to use that then. :-\ 18:44:50 <clokep> Is there another flag to kill cookies? 18:45:40 <flo> We may need to add one 18:46:00 <flo> or maybe we can find a way to kill cookies when they are received rather than when they are about to be sent 18:46:20 <flo> (I'm not sure if the LOAD_ANONYMOUS flag also kills received cookies) 18:48:19 <flo> clokep: by the way, you will have a problem with proxies for IRC too, as the current way used to open a socket doesn't take proxies into account 18:48:41 <clokep> flo: I know, it's on my to-do list. ;) 18:49:00 <flo> we should add that to jsProtoHelper I guess 18:51:20 <clokep> flo: We really need to handle sockets in jsProtoHelper and I have no idea how to make it "easier" to use? Maybe something like: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/544 18:52:02 <flo> what's a "socket protocol"? 18:52:39 <flo> I would see that as a "Socket" object exported from jsProtoHelper 18:52:44 <clokep> A protocol that uses sockets. ;) 18:52:49 <clokep> OK. :) 18:52:54 <flo> so you would do new Socket(hostname, port); when you need a connection 18:53:02 <clokep> But the way I did it I made the particular account into the socket object? 18:53:28 <flo> that makes it hard to handle multiple socket in a single account ;) 18:53:45 <flo> what about file transfer for example? 18:54:24 <clokep> flo: That's true, I didn't think of that. I'll have to rewrite it as a separate object I suppose. :) 18:59:17 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 19:00:52 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 19:01:06 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 19:01:07 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 19:08:58 <Mic> The list of blocking+wanted is rather long :S 19:09:11 <clokep> That's why we're re-assigning them all to you Mic. :) 19:09:28 <Mic> Not the best way to get things done :S 19:09:51 <clokep> I'll pick some out and look into them soonish. 19:10:38 <Mic> I've picked so many things again and not getting done anything of it. Going to finish the voice out extension first now that I got permission to use the binary component of this other Firefox extension 19:11:21 <Mic> It's a pity that it will be only for 0.2 :( 19:12:20 <clokep> Did you ask them about support for Firefox 4? 19:13:14 <Mic> He said he has no time to maintain it at the moment and that I could use what's there already. 19:13:33 <clokep> Cool. :) 19:14:13 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 19:14:50 <flo> is the source available? 19:15:21 <Mic> Unfortunately not but I could ask him if he likes to share it as well 19:15:34 <Mic> Could someone of you compile it for me if I get it? 19:16:45 <clokep> Mic: I can once my other laptop is hooked up again, which wouldn't be until...I move and get internet. 19:16:48 <clokep> Which sohuld be next Friday. 19:18:09 <Mic> :) 19:20:05 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 19:22:19 --> igorko has joined #instantbird 19:27:50 --> linuxwizard has joined #instantbird 19:27:58 <clokep> Speaking of which...if I disappears for a few days I've probably moved and don't have Internet yet. ;) 19:28:33 <Mic> Have fun 19:29:41 <Mic> I updated and shared whiteboard searches for 0.3 on Bugzilla. They're now specific for 0.3, no idea if there were older blocking/wanted/nicetohave lying around.. 19:33:33 <flo> Mic: I usually type my search all the time, it seems faster to me than clicking a link 19:33:46 <flo> for example I type "ib sw:0.3" to see the list of all bugs tracked for 0.3 19:34:02 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 19:34:42 <Mic> What is "sw"? 19:35:07 <flo> Status White board 19:35:16 <Mic> Ah:) 19:35:19 <flo> or something 19:35:22 <Mic> I tried "wb" and it failed 19:36:53 <flo> I use the list at https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/page.cgi?id=quicksearchhack.html each time I need to create a new query that's really different from one I've memorized 19:42:59 <Mic> I have a bookmark for this as it seems :D 19:49:15 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 19:52:32 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 19:52:57 --> kaie has joined #instantbird 19:53:46 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 19:53:46 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 19:58:19 <Mic> Mathnerd314: hi 19:58:26 <-- kaie has quit (Quit: Leaving) 19:58:43 <Mic> You were interested in a good first bug if I recall correctly? 19:59:08 <Mic> There should be some tagged as such on Bugzilla now, I think flo added them 19:59:54 <Mathnerd314> ok, will check when I have more spare time 20:01:56 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 20:21:32 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 20:26:13 <-- fendrus has quit (Ping timeout) 20:27:33 <-- igorko has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 20:39:42 --> fendrus has joined #instantbird 21:03:24 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 21:03:32 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 21:03:32 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 21:07:50 <Mic> flo: how can I make a label wrap at the size of the window instead of having it increase the width of it? 21:08:16 <-- fendrus has quit (Ping timeout) 21:08:46 <Mic> It wraps fine when reducing the width of the window manually but I don't want the window to change size in first palce 21:08:48 <Mic> *place 21:11:46 <Mic> (I've put the value of the label between opening and closing tags as suggested on MDN (setting it via value="" doesn't warp at all) 21:22:02 --> fendrus has joined #instantbird 21:31:35 <flo> Mic: is the size of the window changing when you change the text of the label, or is it just the size of the window when opening it? 21:31:56 <flo> if you want a fixed window size, maybe you should just set the size with the width and height attributes? 22:22:46 <Mic> Good point 22:32:10 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 22:33:40 <flo> Good night! :) 22:33:44 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 22:45:54 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 22:45:55 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 22:52:10 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 22:52:17 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 22:52:17 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 23:08:12 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 23:14:48 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: get satisfied! :: www.unitedservers.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 23:23:46 <-- sonny has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.2.13/20101230171613]) 23:30:28 <-- Ornthalas has quit (Quit: KTHXBYE) 23:44:55 <-- Jan has quit (Quit: Jan)