#instantbird log on 01 29 2011

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12:27:35 <igorko> hi guys
12:27:57 <igorko> You know that hw ab=cceleration is enabled by default in instantbird?
12:28:05 <igorko> acceleration*
12:28:21 <igorko> and there is no option to disable it in preferences
12:29:39 <igorko> as it does Firefox- setting to true direct2d.disabled  and layers.accelerate
12:29:50 <igorko>  layers.accelerate.disabled
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13:38:25 <igorko> someone started openDialog("about:support") in instantbird?
13:41:02 <igorko> bug 526
13:41:05 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=526 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Provide UI to open about:crashes and about:support
13:41:16 <igorko> they work for me atm
13:41:23 <igorko> and bug is not closed
13:41:56 <igorko> but about:support window has bad size
13:43:28 <igorko> it has big height and small width and is aligned to left on Desktop
13:43:50 <igorko> would be better to open it in center of screen
13:44:49 <igorko> oh i see- that bug proposes UI with opening
13:45:49 <igorko> and it would be nice to add UI checkbox for disabling HW acceteration as it does FF(i said this already)- waiting for reaction ;)
13:46:16 <igorko> because my stange bugs are fixed with disabling it
13:47:02 <flo> igorko: Firefox has added a UI to disable it?
13:47:13 <igorko> yes
13:48:26 <igorko> Options-<Advanced->General
13:48:45 <igorko> site surfing(or how it's named in en-US)
13:49:27 <igorko> it sets gfx.direct2d.disabled and layers.accelerate.disabled to true
13:49:35 <igorko> both
13:50:23 <igorko>  layers.acceleration.disabled*
13:50:54 <flo> we may copy that UI for it. File a bug if you care about this and think we need it before Instantbird 0.3 :)
13:51:18 <igorko> ok
13:51:44 <flo> It sounds as a good idea, as each time someone complains about something that looks bad we ask that the person try again without hardware acceleration. Explaining how to use about:config each time is a pain
13:52:11 <flo> it's sad to have to disable it though :(
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14:05:05 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 669 filed by igor-hkr@mail.ru.
14:05:06 <instantbot> igor-hkr@mail.ru added attachment 511 to bug 669.
14:05:09 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Add ability for disabling hw acceleration in Preferences
14:05:57 <igorko> weeee
14:06:51 <igorko> instantbot: hey
14:06:52 <instantbot> salut igorko
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14:24:25 <noteda> http://youtube.com/watch?v=cK5yl9t_vfc iwillrockyou
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14:44:49 <noteda> http://youtube.com/watch?v=cK5yl9t_vfc iwillrockyou
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14:58:28 <noteda> http://youtube.com/watch?v=cK5yl9t_vfc iwillrockyou
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14:58:55 <noteda> http://youtube.com/watch?v=cK5yl9t_vfc iwillrockyou
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15:04:51 <Mic> Hi
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15:10:35 <clokep> Good morning.
15:12:40 <Mic> clokep: you asked me something about an XBox account? I don't have one.
15:12:54 <clokep> Oh OK. I wasn't sure. Thanks Mic.
15:13:11 * Mic tries to catch up with pages of logs and fifty bug changes :D
15:15:29 <clokep> Yeah, you were gone a bad day. :)
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15:25:04 <noteda0> http://youtube.com/watch?v=cK5yl9t_vfc iwillrockyou
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15:35:20 <clokep> flo: Quick question about the change to twitter.js with the unInit/close function, which one occurs when I "x" the conversation out?
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15:44:39 <clokep> I got it working. ;) Don't worry about it.
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16:09:55 <fendrus> hello
16:10:20 <Mic> Hi
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16:14:48 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 670 filed by benediktp@ymail.com.
16:14:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=670 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Add "restart with add-ons disabled" to menu
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16:19:55 <fendrus> I'm form Hungary, and i can translate the instantbird to hungarian.
16:20:43 <fendrus> But as i can see , no one responsible for my locale
16:24:10 <igorko> fendrus it's not a problem
16:24:14 <igorko> you will be ;)
16:24:33 <igorko> Mic ping
16:25:05 <igorko> instantbot ping
16:25:06 <instantbot> igorko: pong
16:25:23 <igorko> instantbot how are you
16:25:24 <instantbot> igorko: fine thanks! I've been up 5 days so far!
16:25:42 <igorko> instantbot how it goes
16:25:45 <instantbot> igorko: Sorry, I've no idea what 'how it goes' might be.
16:25:58 <igorko> oh he doesn't know
16:26:04 <fendrus> eh
16:26:06 <fendrus> :D
16:26:16 <fendrus> its not a smart one bot...:D
16:26:35 <igorko> noo
16:26:45 <igorko> this one is one of smartest
16:28:19 <igorko> instantbird rocks!
16:28:25 <fendrus> yeah, u can play ping-pong with it^^
16:29:10 <igorko> interesting what he would say on f**k you :)
16:29:23 <igorko> but i don't want ban ^)
16:29:26 <igorko> :)
16:34:22 <Mic> fendrus: good to hear that you like to help :)
16:34:33 <Mic> Have you read something on translating already?
16:35:51 <Mic> If not, there's the FAQ (https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Translation/FAQ) which answers common questions and says how to proceed (what to do to get a repository for it and access to it, ..)
16:39:46 <fendrus> yep, i read it.
16:40:10 <fendrus> i already sent an e-mail too.
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16:45:39 <Mic> How can I get a copy of the latest german locale?
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17:10:21 <mark76> I'm having trouble installing new themes
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17:17:31 <flo> clokep: unInit is called by purpleCoreService::removeConversation which is called by the close implementation in the prototype in jsProtoHelper
17:18:48 <flo> Mic: do you want the repository or an xpi?
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17:21:36 <mark76> So how do I install new themes?
17:21:54 <igorko> mark76 even default theme has troubles ;)
17:22:16 <mark76> Where would I put them?
17:22:27 <clokep> mark76: You should be able to drag it onto the add on manager just like an extension.
17:22:33 <clokep> Are you using 0.2 or a nightly build?
17:22:37 <mark76> 0.2
17:22:57 <igorko> btw i can't install dictionary in nightly
17:22:58 <mark76> When you say drag. Drag the url or what?
17:23:15 <flo> drag the file
17:23:30 <flo> you download the file from your browser and save it to the disk
17:23:30 <mark76> The zip file or the unzipped file?
17:23:36 <flo> the .xpi file
17:23:46 <mark76> Okay
17:23:51 <mark76> Let me try that
17:24:16 <flo> there's also an "Install from file" button I think
17:24:30 <flo> (if you want to use a file picker, rather than dragging the file)
17:25:15 <igorko> flo yes there is an button- but i can't install dictionary- it doas nothing after choosing
17:25:25 <igorko> you can try it
17:25:44 <flo> igorko: what do you mean by "after choosing"?
17:26:12 <igorko> install from file- choosing file -ok
17:26:24 <igorko> than browse closes and nothing
17:26:38 <igorko> i'll watch in error console
17:27:23 <flo> igorko: it doesn't appear in the list of installed add-ons?
17:27:39 <igorko> you are right
17:27:44 <mark76> I downloaded the blackened xpi but dragging it onto the Preferences/Themes window doesn't seem to be achieving anything
17:28:22 <clokep> mark76: Tools > Add-ons menu is how you install extensions.
17:28:33 <clokep> /themes
17:28:48 <clokep> I know it's confusing having multiple places that themes are listed. :-\ I'm not a big fan of it.
17:29:06 <igorko> flo it even doesn't ask- about confirming of installation
17:29:17 <igorko> with timer bitton
17:29:21 <igorko> button*
17:30:17 <igorko> Попередження: WARN addons.repository: cacheEnabled: Couldn't get pref: extensions.getAddons.cache.enabled
17:30:17 <igorko> Джерело: resource://gre/modules/AddonRepository.jsm
17:30:17 <igorko> Рядок: 378
17:30:27 <igorko> addons.instantbird.org : server does not support RFC 5746, see CVE-2009-3555
17:30:33 <flo> igorko: that's strange (that it doesn't even ask for a confirmation)
17:30:39 <igorko> Попередження: WARN addons.updates: Error: Missing updates property for urn:mozilla:extension:uk-ua@dictionaries.addons.mozilla.org
17:30:39 <igorko> Джерело: resource://gre/modules/AddonUpdateChecker.jsm
17:30:39 <igorko> Рядок: 472
17:31:09 <igorko> wait i'll turn on en-Us so you understand error
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17:31:35 <flo> igorko: don't you have an error message saying the dictionary is incompatible?
17:31:48 <mark76> Instantbird could not install the file at file:///home/mark/Downloads/blackened-0.9-instantbird/chrome/blackened.jar because: Install script not found -204
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17:32:30 <igorko> twice this:
17:32:31 <igorko> Warning: WARN addons.repository: cacheEnabled: Couldn't get pref: extensions.getAddons.cache.enabled
17:32:31 <igorko> Source File: resource://gre/modules/AddonRepository.jsm
17:32:31 <igorko> Line: 378
17:32:34 <flo> the first two error messages you pasted were bug 529 and bug 487
17:32:37 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=529 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, update addons.instantbird.org integration in the add-on manager to follow mozilla 2 changes.
17:32:38 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=487 nor, --, ---, raynaudquentin, ASSI, Updates throw info message (RFC 5746 -- SSL/TLS) in Instantbird
17:32:40 <igorko> than this:
17:32:41 <igorko> addons.instantbird.org : server does not support RFC 5746, see CVE-2009-3555
17:32:51 <igorko> and this:
17:32:51 <igorko> Warning: WARN addons.updates: Error: Missing updates property for urn:mozilla:extension:uk-ua@dictionaries.addons.mozilla.org
17:32:51 <igorko> Source File: resource://gre/modules/AddonUpdateChecker.jsm
17:32:51 <igorko> Line: 472
17:33:08 <flo> mark76: you should install the .xpi file, not the .jar file
17:34:58 <mark76> It's so confusing
17:35:11 <mark76> It didn't see the xpi
17:35:21 <flo> I don't understand why you unzipped the .xpi file by the way ;)
17:35:51 <mark76> BRB
17:35:53 <flo> do you have a file manager that made a mess of the file?
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17:36:37 <igorko> flo all of those errors/warnings are known?
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17:37:30 <flo> igorko: they are only warnings
17:37:43 <flo> and yes, they are the 2 bugs I mentioned
17:37:57 <mark76> It's confusing because the window only displays jar files by default
17:39:52 <igorko> it they are warnings why it doesn't install?
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17:40:41 <igorko> i hope if they will fixed it will work
17:42:00 <flo> igorko: they are unrelated
17:42:12 <igorko> hm
17:42:14 <flo> those warning are about what happens when you check for updates of already installed add-ons
17:42:15 <igorko> thats not good
17:42:30 <flo> (or when it does so automatically)
17:42:32 <igorko> they appear when i choose dictionary
17:44:16 <igorko> i even disabled Update add-ons automatically
17:44:21 <igorko> the same
17:44:23 <igorko> result
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18:01:17 <fendrus> lol
18:01:27 <fendrus> here was a smart earthquake
18:01:33 <fendrus> in budapest
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18:14:16 <Mic> flo: I'd be fine with the xpi
18:14:32 <flo> Mic: that may be harder to find ;)
18:15:47 <Mic> That is the only way to actually try it in Instantbird, isn't it?
18:17:57 <flo> I don't see any de langpack in http://ftp.instantbird.org/instantbird/l10n/
18:18:03 <flo> I'm afraid the translation has never reached completion
18:18:41 <flo> although there was a commit relatively recently
18:25:52 <Mic> ah, I thought there would be a new xpi after each commit
18:26:10 <Mic> You don't get that until everything is translated?
18:27:13 <Mic> That is exactly the place I was looking for by the way :)
18:27:53 <Mic> How comes you don't see that folder from http://ftp.instantbird.org/instantbird/ ?
18:29:30 <flo> because we don't want users to randomly try langpack that are not appropriate for their exact build
18:39:43 <Mic> I wonder if we should have a central way to make rules and filters for messages. This would be a helper for extensions that want to process some messages and others not
18:40:58 <flo> I think we need to add a way to add-ons to modify/cancel messages before they are sent, when they are received, and before they are displayed
18:41:03 <Mic> Right now every extension would have to implement this part itself
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18:44:25 <Mic> e.g. processing messages based on the sender, the account, containing certain words (or not), .. such stuff. The extension could call a filtering method with the msg object and it's name and it returns if it is on the (white or black)list . The lists/rules could be managed from a central dialog instead of extension specific ones
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18:46:32 <Mic> I'm not sure if that makes sense (e.g. because extension would have to add other information/options UI for each filter)
18:47:13 <Mic> I think that it doesn't make sense either that every extension has to reinvent the wheel either :S
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22:20:30 * Mook pokes flo, re: wrapper code
22:20:41 <flo> wrapping what?
22:22:44 <Mook> sorry, re: https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=628#c22
22:22:46 <instantbot> Bug 628 nor, --, ---, mook.moz+bugs.instantbird, ASSI, Unable to accept IRC invite
22:23:01 <flo> ah, so that fixes instanceof
22:23:02 <Mook> the imXPCOMUtils.jsm stuff, to make dealing with nsIArray and friends from JS a bit easier
22:23:13 <Mook> yeah. I should add a comment there :)
22:23:46 <flo> I still think instanceof not working on XPCOM component implemented in JS is an XPConnect bug ;)
22:24:08 <Mook> sure. but that doesn't help me, now ;)
22:25:34 <Mook> anyway, the wrapper stuff was inspired from https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=380839 via http://src.songbirdnest.com/xref/trunk/components/jscodelib/ArrayConverter.jsm
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22:27:31 <Mook> (and, completely unrelated: for package-manifest.in-type problems, songbird has a buildbot step for it - dunno if that's better or worse than a {pre|post}-commit-hook)
22:28:41 <flo> buildbot is a bit late in the game
22:29:02 <flo> but I guess that's still better than after nightly testers actually have it failing
22:31:48 <flo> Mook: so about wrappers, do we really need to convert between that many types of arrays?
22:32:19 <Mook> hmm. I don't think I needed _all_ of them, but I just wanted to be complete
22:32:35 <Mook> (so I can say "here's... something; turn it into a JS array for me, thanks!)
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22:50:50 <Mook> Mic: the filtering messages thing: chatzilla has this, in the form of hooks. http://silver.warwickcompsoc.co.uk/mozilla/chatzilla/scripting/#3 has some info.
22:55:31 <Mic> Thanks, I will look at it
22:57:25 <Mic> good night
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23:18:26 <mark76> The koloblok smileys aren't very stable
23:30:31 <mark76> Which messagestyles give you buddy avatars?
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