#instantbird log on 01 16 2011

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00:59:00 <igorko> weeee First uk translation was just builded succesfull
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01:06:22 <igorko> how to change locale? Locale swicher doesn't work for me
01:12:10 <igorko> found
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04:31:31 <Mook> hmm. I guess I didn't use xpcomutils. I think I had a generateQI in there at one point, and forgot to remove it when I moved to new Action()
04:33:21 <clokep> I think so. :)
04:34:10 <Mathnerd314> clokep: did I file the bug right?
04:34:33 <clokep> Mathnerd314: Sounds good, one question what do you mean by "It would also be nice to define alternate nicks for other people as well."
04:34:55 <Mathnerd314> oh, like saying "clokep is the same as clokep_"
04:35:11 <clokep> In what sense?
04:35:42 <Mathnerd314> if I'm PMing them it shows the normal name rather than the alternate nick
04:37:06 <clokep> Ah, I see. That'd be a separate bug related to aliasing which I don't think flo would accept. (Personally I'm not sure if I'd want that either, you have to "guess" that it's the same person.)
04:38:40 <Mook> and gets bad if somebody intentionally does a /nick clokep_ to try to trick you :D
04:38:50 <clokep> Yes. :)
04:38:56 * clokep doesn't own clokep_ in fact.
04:39:02 <Mathnerd314> Mook: that's why there's nickserv
04:40:01 <Mathnerd314> but I guess you should ignore that for the actual bug
04:40:33 <Mathnerd314> except to add a field for extensions/future code to use
04:40:43 <clokep> Mathnerd314: See what I commented in the bug.
04:41:04 <instantbot> mook.moz+bugs.instantbird@gmail.com added attachment 487 to bug 628.
04:41:16 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=628 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Unable to accept IRC invite
04:41:28 <Mook> man, actually getting a r+ is so hard! :D
04:41:58 <Mathnerd314> clokep: sounds good.
04:42:04 <clokep> Mook: I think you should do if (!aLabel) throw "All actions need a label." or something along those lines.
04:42:23 <clokep> I agree, if no useful label is given we should do nothing and tell people a mistake was made. :)
04:43:47 <clokep> (Sorry, I thought of that while eating dinner tonight.
04:44:19 <clokep> After I had left my other comment about aLabel || "<unknown>" :)
04:46:40 <Mook> something like http://sprunge.us/cNSL?diff then?
04:48:40 <clokep> Doesn't throw automatically do the Components.utils.reportError function? (I always just do: throw "Some string"), but that way should work OK.
04:49:39 <Mook> not if somebody eats it... IIRC event listeners usually do
04:49:50 <clokep> I meant something like http://pastebin.instantbird.com/524 ;)
04:50:04 <clokep> But your way is better. I didn't know you could do that with the file and line number. :)
04:50:19 <clokep> Also, notice I got rid of the defaults in the prototype, they're not necessary.
04:50:21 <Mook> hey, it's not _my_ fault my caller is being silly! XD
04:50:32 <clokep> :)
04:50:42 <clokep> No, you've done great work. Sorry I'm a crappy reviewer. ;)
04:50:57 * clokep is learning as much as I'm having you change.
04:51:05 <Mook> oh, no, you're doing great too - the number one thing, I think, is speedy reviews :D
04:51:20 <Mook> I'm talking about the hypothetical case where somebody else writes a new Action caller
04:51:34 <clokep> Ah got it.
04:51:44 <Mook> and the defaults are there, actually, to help my editor with autocomplete ;)
04:52:01 <clokep> Ah, I see. :) We haven't been including them.
04:52:22 <Mook> I can remove it if you want, though, that class is pretty tiny anyway
04:52:53 <Mook> I think with it gone, I can actually do Action.prototype = ClassInfo(...)
04:52:53 <clokep> It's mostly up to flo, but I'd prefer them removed.
04:53:04 <Mook> but that might be Too Magical
04:53:12 <clokep> Like this: ChatRoomField.prototype =
04:53:13 <Mook> (magic is bad.)
04:53:13 <clokep>   ClassInfo("purpleIChatRoomField", "ChatRoomField object");
04:53:28 <clokep> (Line 649 - 650 in my jsProtoHelper, not sure if I have local changes.))
04:53:58 <Mook> I see it on 636 for purpleKeyValuePair, so close enough!
04:54:16 <Mook> okay, will switch to that, then
04:54:23 <clokep> Yes. :) That was flo's style, so I'd keep it the same for the file at least.
04:55:25 <Mook> so far, then, http://sprunge.us/aMKc?diff
04:55:42 <Mook> (I use sprunge here because it's easier to do `hg diff | sprunge` )
04:58:02 <clokep> Mook: Yes, that's r+ from me (I'll have to re-read it...but pretty sure.)
04:58:07 <clokep> And sprunge is OK for me. :)
04:58:21 <Mook> lazy ftw! XD
04:58:55 <Mook> (I use http://sprunge.us/HXHH?bash to make things easy for myself)
04:59:59 <clokep> Ah, neat. I use Windows. ;)
05:03:01 <Mook> that _is_ windows. clip.exe came with windows, actually
05:03:08 <Mook> (mozilla-build = msys = bash)
05:04:05 <Mook> mac is... pbcopy or something. linux probably would start with "x" ;)
05:04:38 <clokep> Ah, true...but I'm usually too lazy to open mozilla-build. ;)
05:05:26 <Mook> yeah, win+2 here :)
05:14:21 <clokep> Got it. :)
05:14:34 <clokep> Hopefully once you get this working I can just add a bunch of actions. ;)
05:16:09 <clokep> Also, congrats Mook. You now own that bug. ;)
05:17:01 <Mook> hah. I probably should have checked that box sooneer
05:24:00 <clokep> It's OK. :) As long as it's before it's checked in. ;)
05:31:07 <Mook> or after, I don't care much ;)
05:32:13 * Mook suspects he won't have quite as much time starting next week, but that should still be okay... the evenings are still there
05:32:46 <clokep> In a few weeks I'll probably have very little time for a month or so.
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11:25:45 <igorko> guys- shortcut keya work in instantbird?
11:25:51 <igorko> keys*
11:26:00 <igorko> dunno if they can be translated
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11:41:13 <igorko> anybody here?
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11:48:32 <Even> I am
11:49:13 <Even> About translation of shortcut keys, I do believe it is possible.
11:49:32 <Even> Though flo might be able to give a definite answer about this one.
11:50:48 <Even> I can't. I'm not really familiar with the translation system. My only knowledge about it is the process to create a language pack since I automated it ^^.
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11:52:51 <igorko> but as i see even in english locale shortcuts dont work
11:53:13 <igorko> at least for me
11:53:21 <igorko> and in latest nightly
11:59:38 <igorko> truncated tab content in Options is known?
12:02:36 <Even> What do you mean by "shortcuts don't work" ?
12:02:46 <igorko> seems there are few hardcoded strings for translating
12:02:51 <Even> I don't see any problem on my nighty...
12:03:26 <igorko> get buddy list windows in focus, nype F - nothing happens
12:03:29 <Even> I don't believe it is in any something flo would accept to hardcode anything.
12:04:08 <Even> *any way
12:04:25 <igorko> hm
12:04:33 <Even> Sorry but I still don"t see the shortcut you are talking about.
12:04:42 <Even> r(which one)
12:04:47 <igorko> File
12:04:51 <igorko> in main menu
12:05:09 <Even> Yeah.
12:05:12 <Even> It is ALT + F.
12:05:19 <igorko> ah
12:05:19 <Even> And it works well if the buddy list has the focus.
12:05:21 <Even> Won't otherwise.
12:05:33 <igorko> ok
12:05:39 <igorko> so Alt- thanks
12:05:39 <Even> (that is the default on Linux + Windows to use Alt for menu shortcuts.
12:05:55 <Even> Yeah.
12:06:11 <Even> No problem.
12:07:05 <Even> Hope you'll find Instantbird to your liking.
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12:09:40 <igorko> and one more question
12:09:47 <igorko> http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/7020/insr.jpg
12:10:16 <igorko> what todo with this truncating
12:13:02 <igorko> rebooting for locale changing...
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12:15:41 <igorko> nice- shortcuts can be translated- let's do this ;)
12:20:02 <flo> igorko: the truncating is because you have a translated string that is too long in one of the 3 other tabs.
12:20:49 <flo> if it's a string you really can't shorten without losing completely the meaning, let us know which string is causing trouble and we will see if the code can be changed to have it wrapped across multiple lines
12:20:51 <igorko> so cut them? or there is another way?
12:21:19 <igorko> ok i'll think what i can todo
12:36:09 <igorko> it's bug?
12:36:10 <igorko> <!ENTITY account.cancelReconnection.label         "Cancel reconnection">
12:36:10 <igorko> <!ENTITY account.cancelReconnection.accesskey     "A">
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12:48:17 <Even> Bug ?
12:49:22 <Even> I think you should be more precise in choosing your words. It makes it hard to understand what you mean right now. How can this be a bug ? Maybe a bad choice of access key, but a bug...
12:50:45 <Even> But I do think it is so by purpose. C is probably already used for something else so the A has been chosen there instead. To prevent using twice the same access key for two different actions.
12:50:50 <Even> You should check this one out.
12:51:02 <Even> But I do believe it's something of the sort.
12:52:36 <igorko> hm
12:52:55 <igorko> A must be in that string?
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12:53:11 <igorko> if not it will we shown in (...) ?
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13:28:59 <igorko> http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9662/loggg.jpg what this means?
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13:29:04 <igorko> in nortoisehg
13:29:10 <igorko> tortoise*
13:29:14 <Mic> Hello
13:29:35 <igorko> hello
13:29:44 <igorko> can i push it?
13:31:04 <igorko> heeelp....
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13:35:22 <Mic> igorko: your problem is what this red boxes mean?
13:35:31 <igorko> yes
13:35:47 <igorko> spaces
13:35:51 <igorko> detele them?
13:36:07 <igorko> already reverted commit :)
13:36:14 <Mic> If it's spaces then remove them
13:40:52 <igorko> so hg just sayes that there is space in the end of line?
13:41:34 <igorko> let's push ;)
13:41:39 <Mic> Wait a minute
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13:43:55 <igorko> already done...
13:44:03 <Mic> It's indeed spaces
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13:50:05 <igorko> flo: that bug with truncating
13:50:12 <igorko> now its not present
13:51:25 <igorko> seems not related to translation
13:52:22 <igorko> i'll try to reproduce it
13:53:04 <Mic> Did it go away with your accesskey change?
13:55:25 <igorko> yes
13:55:37 <igorko> but dunno if it because them
13:56:33 <Mic> If you chose a letter that doesn't appear in the text string, it will be appened in brackets as far as I know
13:57:02 <igorko> yes
13:57:06 <igorko> i saw that
13:57:26 <igorko> few more fixes(hope in one commit) and translation is done :)
13:57:33 <Mic> So it will be that some labels are shorter with this change than before
13:58:22 <igorko> i'll show new screen
14:00:17 <igorko> hm really strange
14:01:54 <igorko> http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/3056/231sls.jpg
14:02:25 <igorko> i lost that translation but it is ok in all the rest places
14:03:21 <Mic> Left is the older screenshot and the right is the newer?
14:03:28 <igorko> yes
14:04:10 <Mic> The "lost translation" is the "I"-accesskey
14:04:14 <Mic> ?
14:04:23 <igorko> yes
14:04:50 <igorko> and can't find it with Tcmd search...
14:05:06 <igorko> moment i'll disable translation
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14:07:10 <igorko> remember i sayed its ok in the rest places?
14:07:14 <igorko> not fully ok
14:07:49 <igorko> privacy tab doesn't show right groupbox border
14:08:17 <igorko> but showes fully all translations and buttons
14:08:38 <igorko> moment
14:08:45 <Mic> https://hg.instantbird.org/l10n/uk/rev/7e4805f2529c#l8.51
14:09:02 <igorko> yes?
14:09:09 <Mic> Ups, sorry
14:09:12 <Mic> ;)
14:09:39 <igorko> i;ll go comparing
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14:10:46 <igorko> guys
14:10:56 <igorko> it's really not localization bug
14:11:07 <Mic> That's the one I mean: https://hg.instantbird.org/l10n/uk/rev/7e4805f2529c#l8.44
14:11:17 <igorko> groupbox right boeder just appeared
14:11:24 <Mic> Should be the label of the second button
14:11:59 <igorko> cool
14:12:00 <igorko> thanks
14:13:17 <igorko> that  truncation(afaik) even appeared in 0.2 russian build and in left side of smiles config
14:13:41 <igorko> but now all is ok
14:14:17 <igorko> i'll complete translation and than will try to reproduce in english version
14:17:04 <Mic> :)
14:19:09 <igorko> hm- can't find some wrong translated string
14:19:50 <igorko> this one - install add-on from file...
14:22:52 <igorko> and this
14:22:55 <igorko> BackBtn=< &Назад
14:22:56 <igorko> NextBtn=&Далі >
14:22:56 <igorko> AcceptBtn=Я згоден з &умовами Ліцензійної Угоди
14:22:56 <igorko> DontAcceptBtn=Я не згоден з умовами &Ліцензійної Угоди
14:22:56 <igorko> InstallBtn=В&становити
14:22:56 <igorko> UninstallBtn=Ви&далити
14:23:40 <igorko> and app &Назад is like Н&азад  and &Далі is like Д&алі
14:23:58 <igorko> Д as i see is duplicated
14:24:17 <igorko> but they dont appear in the same window
14:24:55 <igorko> just asking because don't want make experiments in repo...
14:25:39 <Mic> You can copy longer pieces to pastebin: http://pastebin.instantbird.com
14:26:29 <igorko> ok- this was not so long
14:27:13 <igorko> found
14:27:20 <igorko> seems duplicated with UPGRADE_BUTTON=По&новити
14:27:57 <igorko> it's normal that instantbird switches to next char if that it has is duplicated?
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14:28:25 <Mic> If it does then it is platform behaviour
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14:43:19 <igorko> don't get it where is that setup add-on from file
14:43:25 <igorko> string
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14:49:21 <igorko> someone knows maybe where are addon releted strings? can't find
14:50:24 <clokep> What do you mean by "addon related strings"?
14:50:41 <clokep> Like from the addon manager? That is all toolkit and should be automatically translated.
14:50:48 <clokep> (I think.)
14:51:19 <igorko> yes
14:51:27 <igorko> ported from mozilla?
14:51:43 <clokep> Yes.
14:51:47 <igorko> that string "install add-on from file"
14:51:52 <igorko> ok than
14:51:55 <igorko> thanks
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14:54:52 <Mic> The locale build process is rather complicated as far as I know
14:56:28 <Mic> (What it imports and so on)
15:00:09 <igorko> how can i publish my translation?
15:00:14 <igorko> in add-ons
15:00:20 <igorko> on site
15:01:34 <igorko> updating...
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15:03:46 <igorko> i know why it truncates window
15:04:13 <igorko> it doesn't resizes it at first launch
15:04:55 <igorko> if you open tab- it's broken
15:05:34 <igorko> at next start of options windows opens on the same tab you closed on and this time window is resized
15:05:52 <igorko> and the same for all tabs(you mus open every tab twice)
15:08:14 <Mic> It shouldn't resize on Windows afaik
15:08:23 <igorko> yes
15:08:32 <igorko> but only after second opening
15:08:32 <Mic> It might do so on Linux (Ubuntu, iirc)?
15:08:47 <Mic> I meant without closing it in between
15:10:57 <igorko> i'm using windows
15:11:28 <igorko> but you already know...
15:13:10 <igorko> watch this
15:13:12 <igorko> _room=_Кімната:
15:13:12 <igorko> _server=_Сервер:
15:13:12 <igorko> _handle=_Ім'я:
15:13:23 <igorko> it doesn't translate those strings
15:13:40 <igorko> wrong syntax?
15:15:45 <igorko> and this _password=_Пароль:
15:16:05 <igorko> no second is translated...
15:17:19 <igorko> try to put latine _- maybe it's because this
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15:24:30 <igorko> the same
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15:26:10 <igorko> codeMonkey? lol
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15:33:33 <igorko> http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3118/clipboard012s.jpg
15:34:20 <igorko> and _password=_Пароль:
15:34:35 <igorko> as you see this one is translated but has no hotkey
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15:37:46 <Mic> igorko: which file is this?
15:37:54 <igorko> jabber
15:38:03 <igorko> .propereties
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15:40:43 <Mic> hmm
15:42:05 <igorko> now we can say it's a bug? ;)
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15:46:21 <Mic> I can't tell, a translator might know what could make problems and what can't
15:47:29 <igorko> any translator here?
15:47:37 <Mic> Tonnes and tymerkaev are translators iirc
15:48:03 <Mic> Ah, indeed (according to: https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Locales_Managers )
15:48:51 <Mic> I'm away now, good luck
15:59:28 <igorko> Tonnes ping
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16:04:08 <igorko> i found out the reason of that redrawing bug
16:04:21 <igorko> file a report?
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16:05:37 <igorko> cloper hi
16:05:45 <igorko> want some bug? ;)
16:05:46 <clokep> Hello.
16:05:51 <igorko> cloker*
16:05:57 <igorko> ah sorry
16:06:07 <igorko> clokep*
16:06:34 <igorko> it's about windows resizing
16:07:11 <igorko> instantbird remembers last position in propereties(which tab was opened last time)
16:07:36 <clokep> No thanks, not right now.
16:07:54 <igorko> than i;ll file a bug
16:10:57 <clokep> File a bug anyway. :)
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16:30:50 * clokep should probably just stop attempting to help when people have localization problems. ;)
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16:42:37 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 654 filed by igor-hkr@mail.ru.
16:42:38 <instantbot> igor-hkr@mail.ru added attachment 488 to bug 654.
16:42:40 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=654 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Options window has wrong size
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16:43:37 <instantbot> igor-hkr@mail.ru added attachment 489 to bug 654.
16:43:57 <igorko> it was me ;)
16:44:57 <clokep> igorko: So pretty much it makes of the window the width of the open tab instead of the widest tab?
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16:45:15 <igorko> yep
16:45:31 <igorko> last remembered tab
16:45:35 <clokep> Good morning Mook.
16:46:25 <Mook> hey, morning
16:47:43 <igorko> clokep: as i wrote it rezises window somethimes(just a little)
16:48:02 <igorko> i think it's related to what controls are present on tab
16:48:58 <igorko> but that only related to height
16:49:08 <clokep> Mmhmm.
16:49:21 <clokep> Flo would probably know better. Not sure if he's around today or idling.
16:59:32 <igorko> that _room= bug remaining
17:00:33 <clokep> igorko: What file is that in?
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17:00:53 <igorko> jabber.properties
17:01:01 <igorko> and irc.properties
17:01:07 <igorko> and oscar
17:01:38 <clokep> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/locales/en-US/jabber.properties#11
17:01:41 <igorko> i made screenshot- moment
17:01:41 <clokep> There's no underscore in front of that.
17:02:14 <igorko> line 124
17:02:45 <clokep> Why do those have an _ in front of them? That doesn't even make sense. :P
17:02:46 <Mic> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/locales/en-US/jabber.properties#28
17:02:50 <igorko> this is used in join to chat dialog
17:03:28 <clokep> I know where they're used. :P I just reimplemented part of that interface.
17:03:43 <Mic> clokep: how should he know that?
17:03:50 <igorko> http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3118/clipboard012s.jpg
17:03:51 <clokep> I'd guess a character is wrong.
17:03:55 <clokep> You tried the different underscore.
17:03:59 <clokep> Mic, you're right. Sorry.
17:04:25 <igorko> i didn't put there underscore - it was  before
17:04:44 * clokep is gonna look at the IRC ones, he's more familiar with those.
17:04:51 <igorko> but i tried that in original- hg doesn't make difference
17:05:13 <Mic> There are matching strings on the french locale, I also checked this before
17:05:20 <clokep> That's very strange. :-\
17:05:26 <Mic> (the ones with the underscore)
17:05:33 <clokep> Could it be the file is saved in the wrong encoding?
17:06:11 <igorko> hm
17:06:13 <Mic> Maybe my comment was a bit rude itself, sorry for that
17:06:18 <igorko> dunno- i didn't creaed them
17:06:24 <igorko> i'll watch now
17:06:46 <clokep> It's fine. Don't worry about it. :)
17:07:04 <igorko> utf-8
17:07:16 * clokep is out of ideas.
17:07:27 <igorko> ah
17:07:29 <igorko> forgot
17:07:35 <igorko> watch my screenshot
17:07:50 <igorko> and this 
17:07:51 <igorko> _password=_Пароль:
17:07:59 <Mic> Has ayone checked if it happens with other locales too?
17:08:05 <igorko> this one is translated but without hotkey
17:08:05 <Mic> *anyone
17:08:24 <igorko> i watched in russian but only in 0.2 release
17:08:32 <igorko> also not translates
17:08:52 <Mic> ok, let me get the french one and see
17:12:02 <clokep> Mic: Do you have DOMi installed? Could be interesting to see what values are actually placed on it (if it's not working in French too...)
17:12:37 <Mic> Yep, will check
17:12:55 <Mic> There's no accesskey on "Password" either in 0.2 en-US.
17:13:01 <Mic> Will file a bug about this.
17:13:16 <Mic> (Checking on an XMPP account)
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17:14:25 <clokep> The code that generates that UI is at http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/content/joinchat.js#76 btw.
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17:16:09 <Mic> hmm: https://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/file/035f7d8d7f78/purple/locales/en-US/jabber.properties#l28
17:16:25 <Mic> There's one (in case that's even the string we should look at
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17:17:35 <clokep> :-\ It might be a bug in the purple protocol code actually (just using the wrong identifier).
17:17:42 <igorko> guys
17:17:51 <igorko> password is translated
17:18:00 <igorko> but doesn't has shortcut
17:18:04 <igorko> in jabber
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17:18:12 <igorko> all the rest are not translated
17:18:35 <clokep> igorko: Yup, but we're saying it's a bug that it doesn't have the shortcut. :)
17:18:57 <clokep> Anyway I have to get going. family function. Good luck.
17:19:11 <clokep> If I think of something I'll drop by.
17:19:23 <igorko> btw all is translated ok in pidgin
17:19:46 <Mic> Ah, it doesn't work in the french locale either
17:19:52 <Mic> Falls back to english values
17:20:25 <clokep> Hmmm...does anyone remember how well regex handles translated strings?
17:20:34 <igorko> Mic: and what with password in jabber?
17:20:56 <clokep> Mic: I think it might be this line: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/content/joinchat.js#84
17:21:08 <Mic> Password is translated in jabber, with no accesskey though
17:21:30 <igorko> yes- the same for me
17:22:54 * clokep vaguely recalls reading that JavaScript regexp chokes on unicode strings.
17:23:06 <clokep> Although...the identifier isn't going through that...and that's all that matters?
17:23:41 <clokep> Anyway, good luck. :)
17:24:03 <igorko> need i file a bug?
17:24:55 <clokep> I think so. :)
17:25:06 <igorko> ok
17:26:50 <igorko> purplexpcom ?
17:27:19 <igorko> or UI
17:27:23 <Mic> UI
17:27:27 <igorko> ok
17:27:28 <Mic> I'd say
17:27:32 <clokep> Yes, UI.
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17:28:08 <Mic> igorko: there's a bug where you could complain about the available "components" on Bugzilla.
17:28:12 <Mic> :P
17:28:43 <Mic> (just in case you'll run into something that doesn't really fit anywhere;)
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17:37:25 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 655 filed by igor-hkr@mail.ru.
17:37:27 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=655 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Localized strings with underscore are ignored (e.g in "Join to chat..." dialog)
17:40:47 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 656 filed by benediktp@ymail.com.
17:40:52 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=656 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Error when selecting disconnected account on the 'Join Chat'-dialog
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17:44:50 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 657 filed by benediktp@ymail.com.
17:44:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Trying to join chatroom on disconnected account gives no feedback what's wrong
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17:48:57 <igorko> lol
17:49:03 <igorko> it's not strange
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17:56:20 <igorko> it must give such feedback- "you idiot- this acc is disabled, maaan"
17:56:39 <Mic> Naah, insulting the user isn't nice
17:58:27 <Mook> well, it could be a custom locale where the app turns insulting :)
17:59:21 <Mic> Or one for the talk-like-a-pirate-day? Arrrr...
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