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00:00:27 * Mic has too much time waiting for his images to finish :S 00:00:37 <clokep> What image are you processing? 00:01:53 <Mic> Photos, it's just standard stuff like selecting a nice part, changing gamma, adding scale bars and zoom level 00:02:33 <Mic> Pretty boring, especially if you have to wait for these all-image-changes to apply 00:03:19 <-- Mook has quit (Ping timeout) 00:03:28 <Mic> Ahtlon XP's aren't really cutting-edge anymore ;) 00:04:42 <Mic> http://xkcd.com/178/ 00:05:14 <Mic> Not a joke exactly but I knew there was something ;) 00:05:54 <clokep> :) 00:07:54 * hicham notes that there are some ubuntu devs idling here 00:09:47 <clokep> So my friend just got his desktop to do his PhD research on....installed Kubuntu a few days ago...and at every step keeps asking me how to do things and my response is always "I use windows, it just works (TM)" :P 00:13:50 <hicham> :) 00:15:13 <skeledrew> hmm 00:15:23 <skeledrew> darn. it's been a while 00:15:40 <skeledrew> so many new faces 00:15:43 <hicham> yeah, very long time 00:16:08 <skeledrew> well, i'm on holiday now 00:16:30 <skeledrew> a 3 week reprieve from the tortures of college 00:17:16 <clokep> How'd the first semester go? :) 00:17:37 <hicham> college is nice 00:17:38 <skeledrew> i survived :) 00:17:47 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 00:17:47 * clokep is going to miss college. 00:18:01 <skeledrew> clokep: senior year? 00:18:03 <clokep> Although I certainly won't miss homework. :) 00:18:07 <skeledrew> lol 00:18:10 <hicham> I wish I can start a PhD 00:18:10 <clokep> I'm graduating w/ my masters this semester, yes. 00:18:19 <skeledrew> wow 00:18:20 <skeledrew> k 00:18:28 <clokep> Last year was my senior year. 00:18:35 <skeledrew> oh 00:18:53 <skeledrew> hmm 00:18:53 <clokep> PhD, psh. ;) Seems like a lot of work for not much advantage. 00:19:04 <skeledrew> clokep: really? 00:19:05 <clokep> Although you'd be a "doctor" then, that's pretty ballin'. 00:19:07 <skeledrew> how so? 00:19:18 <skeledrew> i thought that was the ultimate 00:19:27 <clokep> In terms of engineering it doesn't help you much from what I've heard. 00:19:36 <skeledrew> oh 00:19:40 <Mic> hicham: PhD on what? 00:19:41 * clokep just got sauce on his monitor, one second. 00:19:44 <skeledrew> well, that would seem true 00:20:19 <hicham> Mic : Telecommunications 00:20:23 <skeledrew> PhDs are usually for researchers and teachers 00:20:25 <clokep> For engineering, you don't really need a PhD unless you want to do some specific things or for teaching. 00:20:30 <clokep> Yes. :) 00:20:46 <hicham> I don't like teaching 00:20:53 <skeledrew> i want to get the masters level myself 00:21:05 <-- Mook has quit (Ping timeout) 00:21:09 <skeledrew> hicham: it could be fun. depends on your students 00:21:27 <clokep> skeledrew: I really enjoyed my masters, it was much more specific and I got to work a lot of interesting classes. :) 00:21:31 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 00:21:35 <skeledrew> k 00:21:42 <skeledrew> sounds good 00:21:45 <clokep> But get through your undergraduate first. ;) 00:21:53 <skeledrew> lol 00:21:54 <skeledrew> yup 00:21:58 <clokep> At least a year of it. :P 00:22:09 <skeledrew> i'll do all 4 00:22:11 <skeledrew> lol 00:22:17 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 00:22:18 <skeledrew> or at least try 00:22:23 <-- clokep has left #instantbird () 00:22:38 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 00:22:38 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 00:22:47 <skeledrew> are the first semesters always easy? 00:22:50 <clokep> That wasn't Firefox. :( 00:22:50 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 00:22:50 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 00:23:00 <skeledrew> clokep: you just blinked 00:23:26 <skeledrew> actually, several persons are blinking 00:23:36 <clokep> I found my first not a ton of work. 00:23:44 <clokep> What's you major again? 00:23:53 <skeledrew> Philosophy 00:24:15 <skeledrew> going to be doing my first Phil course next sem 00:24:23 <clokep> Nice. :) 00:24:35 <clokep> I took one philosophy course. ;) 00:24:42 <skeledrew> lol 00:24:43 <skeledrew> k 00:25:00 <skeledrew> i'm going to be doing about 10 overall 00:25:48 <skeledrew> anyway, on to more interesting things :) 00:26:00 <skeledrew> my addon stopped working for some reason 00:26:06 <skeledrew> no idea why :( 00:26:34 <clokep> Before or after mozilla-2.0 landing? 00:26:46 <clokep> Before or after imIContacts replacing purpleIBuddy? :) 00:26:49 <skeledrew> i dodn't think i upgraded anything 00:26:59 <clokep> Oh, are you not on nightlies? 00:27:03 <skeledrew> no 00:27:09 <skeledrew> 0.2 00:27:23 <skeledrew> hmm 00:27:24 <clokep> No idea. :( Any errors? Which extensio was this again? 00:27:50 <skeledrew> My Status 00:28:15 <clokep> Ah, right. 00:28:18 <Mook> hmm, is anybody here using colorize? what colour am I? :) 00:28:26 <clokep> You're green Mook. 00:28:31 <Mook> okay, thanks. 00:28:38 <Mook> sounds like I didn't break it with my local changes, then :D 00:28:40 <skeledrew> Mook: i'm not, but you're green 00:28:42 <clokep> Same as what you are in the participants list? 00:29:13 <clokep> skeledrew: If you have errors I can think about it...otherwise, I don'tknow. :-\ 00:29:52 <skeledrew> scanning... 00:31:06 <skeledrew> nothing beyond the usual 00:32:09 <skeledrew> for some reason, the setting doesn't show in about:config 00:32:54 <skeledrew> hmm. lemme upgrade... 00:35:44 <-- sonny has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.2.13/20101211011801]) 00:40:15 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 00:41:54 <clokep> The usual being all the crap libpurple throws in there? :) 00:43:24 <Mook> hmm, I guess I should just grab 0.2 myself to test 00:44:03 <clokep> Mook: 0.2 is 1.9.2.* just so you know. 00:44:14 <Mook> clokep: ah, okay, thanks 00:44:26 * Mook *thinks* this should still work... 00:44:30 <clokep> Also, about bucktooth...are you running Aero? I'm not sure something is a bug or not. :-\ 00:44:35 <skeledrew> clokep: yeah 00:44:45 <skeledrew> upgrading... 00:44:48 <-- skeledrew has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 00:44:58 <Mook> clokep: yes, areo 00:45:14 <clokep> The top border seems "too white" on the buddy list when not selected... 00:45:23 <Mook> huh. you on aero? 00:45:25 <clokep> Let me get you a screenshot I guess. ;) 00:45:28 <clokep> Yes. win 7 00:45:50 <Mook> same. which means we're not getting much of a test coverage :p 00:46:07 <clokep> Where can I upload random pictures? 00:46:17 <Mook> I tend to use imgur.com 00:46:36 <Mook> imageshack.us and min.us work well to, I think? 00:46:52 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 00:47:18 <clokep> Mook: http://imgur.com/Qe4RF 00:47:37 <skeledrew> where'd my MotD go? 00:47:41 <clokep> The minefield window isn't actually useful since it's maximized there. 00:47:45 <clokep> skeledrew: You mean topic? 00:47:45 <skeledrew> i only see a blank space 00:47:50 <skeledrew> yeah 00:47:53 <clokep> Do you have NickServKiller? 00:47:59 <clokep> It messes it up. 00:48:01 <skeledrew> i think so 00:48:24 <skeledrew> actually, no 00:48:25 <Mook> huh. so it's like it's not colourizing the title bar area? 00:48:28 <-- sabret00the has quit (Ping timeout) 00:48:37 <clokep> What do you mean by colorizing? 00:48:41 <skeledrew> dang. complete redesign 00:49:00 <clokep> I'm talking about the very very top, see how the minimize, close, maximize buttons have a lot of white pixels at the top? 00:49:06 <clokep> That's not there with any of my other windows. 00:49:20 <skeledrew> clokep: is there something wrong with the topic thing? 00:49:25 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 00:49:33 <Mook> oh. I'm looking at the wrong window, I'm an idiot 00:49:37 <clokep> skeledrew: Only when you use NickServKiller 00:49:41 <Mook> so, there's like a 1px top border? 00:49:51 <clokep> Mook. :) Yes, I think it's 1 - 2 pixels. 00:49:55 <clokep> Most likely one... 00:49:59 <skeledrew> clokep: but i don't have it 00:50:04 <Mook> okay, yeah, I've seen that 00:50:10 <Mook> it's more obvious with aero off, actually 00:50:19 <clokep> Looks like it's 1 pixel. 00:50:26 * clokep just zoomed wayyyyyy in with Paint. 00:51:03 <clokep> Oh, Mook, a good color to use might be the blue in the header on the lxr pages: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/ 00:51:35 <skeledrew> different coloured icons... 00:52:36 <Mook> hmm, okay 00:52:45 <Mook> let me just post a diff for colorize first... :D 00:52:50 <Mic> Oh, Nighly builds have a bomb instead of a planet if you mean that, skeledrew 00:53:06 <clokep> diff for colorize? To do what? 00:53:11 <Mic> Check the about dialog 00:53:13 <skeledrew> Mic: oh. lol 00:53:52 <Mic> hmm, it's cut off on the about dialog 00:54:02 <skeledrew> what a warning 00:54:06 <skeledrew> Mic: what? 00:54:12 <Mook> to make it not overlay instantbird.xul to do its thing 00:54:56 <Mic> I thought the bomb-image would be there but the top is cut of so it's just a black globe 00:55:13 <skeledrew> oh 00:55:27 <skeledrew> i do see it on the icon now 00:55:29 <skeledrew> lol 00:55:56 <skeledrew> MinTrayR isn't working 00:55:56 <skeledrew> would hacking it into the nightly break it? 00:56:15 <clokep> skeledrew: You need to download the Fx version. 00:56:25 <skeledrew> oh? 00:56:33 <clokep> Linking... 00:56:46 <clokep> https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/downloads/file/105694/minimizetotray_revived__mintrayr_-0.8.1-fx+tb+sm-linux.xpi?src=version-history 00:57:05 <clokep> Oh, he added Instantbird0.3a1 compatibility, yay. :) 00:57:10 <clokep> You won't even need to hack it. ;) 00:57:22 <skeledrew> linux??? 00:57:35 <skeledrew> i'm on XP here... 00:57:56 <clokep> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/12581/versions/ 00:58:00 <clokep> Idk why it did that. It shold be Ok... 00:58:21 <skeledrew> lol 00:58:34 <clokep> One of them worked haha. AMO might be freaking out. 00:58:40 <clokep> I have the xpi around somehwere too if need ot be. 01:00:23 <Mook> hmm. how do I file bugs against hg.instantbird.org/addons ? 01:00:43 <Mic> You don't ;) 01:00:57 <Mic> No, the categories are a problem 01:01:05 <clokep> There's a bug for it!!! :) 01:01:10 <Mic> Pick anything general 01:01:20 <clokep> Just file it against websites > general and depend that bug? Hahah. 01:01:42 <clokep> bug 428. :P 01:01:46 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=428 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Need Product:Addons + Components in Bugzilla 01:01:58 <skeledrew> here goes... 01:02:06 <-- skeledrew has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 01:02:30 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 01:03:41 <Mook> dear bugzilla: hello! you still there? 01:03:53 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 635 filed by mook.moz+bugs.instantbird@gmail.com. 01:03:54 <instantbot> mook.moz+bugs.instantbird@gmail.com added attachment 436 to bug 635. 01:03:55 <instantbot> mook.moz+bugs.instantbird@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 436 on bug 635. 01:03:58 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=635 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [addons - colorize] Stop overlaying instantbird.xul 01:04:20 <skeledrew> that's a huge one... 01:04:38 <Mic> Mook: maybe it helps if you complain in bug 428 or bug 571? ;) 01:04:42 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=428 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Need Product:Addons + Components in Bugzilla 01:04:43 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=571 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Product & Components on bugzilla unclear/inconsistent 01:05:03 * skeledrew is playing "find the hidden 'x'" with the topic pull down... 01:05:17 <Mook> skeledrew: which is huge? 01:05:43 <clokep> skeledrew: Anywhere on the right should work. 01:05:44 <skeledrew> Mook: your bug list 01:06:16 <skeledrew> k 01:06:43 <clokep> We should probably update all extensions like that. ;) 01:07:17 <Mook> huh. looked tiny to me. meh. 01:07:26 <skeledrew> clokep: is the buddy list icon supposed to be always showing in the tray now? 01:07:53 <skeledrew> Mook: bot must've inflated it... 01:08:13 <Mook> skeledrew: I think it's just that mic mentioned two bugs rght after 01:08:24 <skeledrew> hmm 01:08:25 <skeledrew> oh 01:08:25 <skeledrew> k 01:08:49 <Mic> skeledrew: only if you use minimize to tray 01:09:03 <skeledrew> yup 01:09:09 <skeledrew> k then 01:09:15 <skeledrew> so much to take in 01:09:20 <clokep> skeledrew: I have no idea if it's supposed to be there also, I don't minimize to tray. ;) 01:09:36 <skeledrew> ahh 01:09:50 <hicham> firetray gives the option to select which windows to hide/show 01:10:32 <skeledrew> hmm 01:10:40 <skeledrew> what should i do? 01:11:09 <Mic> Firetray is only for Linux, isn't it? 01:11:12 <skeledrew> i want to try fixing my addon, but i also want to start some deving on aAndroid... 01:11:16 <skeledrew> Mic: yes 01:12:23 <skeledrew> hmm. anyone here using my addon? (My Status) does it work? 01:12:46 <Mook> clokep: is http://i.imgur.com/jWSzK.png better? 01:12:49 <skeledrew> cuz it's still busted after my upgrade 01:13:21 <clokep> skeledrew: Not using it. Could test it at some point if you want. 01:13:26 <clokep> Mook: Yes that looks better. :) 01:13:37 <skeledrew> clokep: please do 01:13:41 <clokep> Linkify me? :) 01:13:55 <clokep> "deving on an Android" For Instantbird or in general? ;) 01:14:20 <skeledrew> https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/downloads/latest/259/addon-259-latest.xpi 01:14:24 <skeledrew> lol 01:14:27 <skeledrew> in general 01:14:40 <skeledrew> i want to learn more about it 01:14:50 <Mook> pushed. now to try to track down the top border... 01:15:00 <clokep> skeledrew: Need to turn on my other computer, give me a minute. :P 01:15:04 <skeledrew> wait. didn't flo say he was thinking of porting IB there? 01:15:10 <clokep> Is the code available online I can look at it or do I need to unzip? 01:15:21 <clokep> He did, but I think it's an "eventually" thing? 01:15:24 <skeledrew> uhh. don't quite remember... 01:15:29 <skeledrew> lol 01:15:43 <skeledrew> i could help bootstrapping it 01:15:52 <skeledrew> i have an Android now 01:16:08 <Mook> hehe, the blue makes me think thunderbird 01:16:58 <clokep> skeledrew: WFM. 01:17:09 <skeledrew> ? 01:17:10 <clokep> Just the status string, right? 01:17:16 <skeledrew> yeah 01:17:59 <clokep> Yup, works for me (WFM). 01:18:02 <clokep> Restarting one sec. 01:18:04 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 01:18:10 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 01:18:10 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 01:18:20 <clokep> Mook: Looks much better! :-D 01:18:30 <clokep> And I won't get confused about my windows onw.... 01:18:39 <skeledrew> weird 01:18:48 <skeledrew> it must hate me or something 01:19:01 <Mook> ... until thunderbird gets that menu button dealy too! :D 01:19:16 <clokep> skeledrew: Nuke your profile? ;) 01:19:24 <clokep> (I'm kidding. Try delete the preference though.) 01:19:34 <skeledrew> the pref isn't there 01:19:39 <skeledrew> that's the issue 01:19:48 <clokep> Uninstall the addon. 01:19:49 <-- Mic has quit (Connection reset by peer) 01:19:50 <clokep> Start again. 01:19:52 <clokep> Quit. 01:19:54 <clokep> Reinstall the addon. 01:20:25 <skeledrew> hmm. need to setup my dev profile... 01:20:54 <skeledrew> oh goody. it's already here :) 01:21:02 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 01:21:02 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 01:21:28 --> skeledrew-dev has joined #instantbird 01:21:59 <skeledrew-dev> oh darn. Javascript Debbugger and DOMi just got busted... 01:22:11 <clokep> DOMi from AMO works fine. :) 01:22:14 <clokep> Except there's no UI. 01:22:23 <skeledrew-dev> ! 01:22:33 <clokep> You can start it with the -inspector command line flag. 01:22:34 <Mic> lol 01:23:01 <skeledrew-dev> i'm not that cmdline-ified... 01:23:09 <skeledrew-dev> well, we'll see... 01:23:22 <Mic> Open the properties of the shortcut to Ib 01:23:24 <clokep> Just open the command line and run: 01:23:24 --> hicham-ib has joined #instantbird 01:23:50 <clokep> "C:\Program Files\Instantbird\instantbird.exe" -P dev -no-remote -inspector 01:23:51 <clokep> Easy. ;) 01:24:04 <Mic> Append that piece after the program target 01:24:24 <skeledrew-dev> how about just hacking the current one? 01:24:29 <skeledrew-dev> :) 01:24:39 <clokep> Idk if it'll work. 01:24:49 <skeledrew-dev> hmm 01:24:55 <skeledrew-dev> we'll see... 01:25:45 <skeledrew-dev> i have a couple addons i started building in here that i don't even remember doing 01:25:46 <skeledrew-dev> lol 01:25:52 <clokep> :) 01:25:59 <clokep> I have A LOT of extensions that are half finished. 01:26:07 <skeledrew-dev> lol 01:26:08 <skeledrew-dev> k 01:28:11 <-- skeledrew-dev has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 01:28:18 --> skeledrew-dev has joined #instantbird 01:28:36 <-- skeledrew-dev has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 01:28:49 --> skeledrew-dev has joined #instantbird 01:29:01 <skeledrew-dev> interesting 01:29:11 <skeledrew-dev> works fine in my dev profile... 01:29:19 <Mook> http://i.imgur.com/eQeX7.png - hmm, should I have a top border on the button? 01:29:30 <skeledrew-dev> wonder what i did to my regular profile 01:29:36 <Mic> Mook: would be nice in my opinion 01:29:38 <clokep> Mook: i think that it looks correct. 01:29:50 <Mook> (for reference: firefox has one) 01:30:00 <clokep> Firefox does not seem to have one. 01:30:01 <clokep> I think. 01:30:06 <clokep> Maybe my definition of border is different. :) 01:30:47 <clokep> Mook: How hard would it be to move it more to the left also? :D 01:31:10 <Mic> Is the left margin intentional? 01:31:20 <Mook> (by border, I mean http://i.imgur.com/5p6vZ.png ) 01:31:34 <Mook> yeah, I hope to get double-click-to-close in that margin there, eventually... 01:31:42 <Mook> (try doing that to explorer!) 01:31:45 <hicham> nice 01:32:25 <clokep> "double-click-to-close"? 01:32:59 <clokep> I'm like 90% sure my Minefield does NOT have that border there. :) But either way works for me. 01:33:11 <Mic> Double clicking the icon closed programs under Windows XP and earlier 01:33:19 <clokep> Oh? Really? 01:33:23 <clokep> I never used that icon. 01:33:27 <-- skeledrew has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 01:33:35 <clokep> Oh, still works in IE> :) 01:33:53 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 01:34:24 <Mook> yeah, but I meant windows explorer (explorer.exe) - where there's no icon, but it still closes! :D 01:34:31 <-- skeledrew has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 01:34:48 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 01:35:04 <skeledrew> dang 01:35:05 <Mic> It's not exactly discoverable 01:35:06 <skeledrew> it works 01:35:16 <Mook> it was! in... Windows 3.11 01:35:35 <skeledrew> all i did was reset the prefs 01:35:41 <skeledrew> :) 01:35:42 <Mic> Wasn't it a bar in a box back then? 01:35:43 <clokep> I think skeledrew, me and Mic are all a little young to remember a lot about 3.11. ;) 01:35:57 <Mic> Maybe you are, clokep :P 01:36:14 <clokep> I didn't think you were that much older! I didn't really use a computer until Windows 95. 01:36:17 <skeledrew> i've HEARD ABOUT it 01:36:21 <skeledrew> lol 01:36:22 <clokep> Besides like launching games maybe. 01:37:06 <skeledrew> interesting. the topic pull down is working fine now too :) 01:37:28 <clokep> Did you reset all your prefs? 01:37:37 <skeledrew> except for one of my channels :( 01:37:48 <skeledrew> clokep: no. just for My Status 01:37:53 <clokep> Oh OK. 01:37:56 <Mook> yeah, it was indeed bar-in-a-box 01:38:13 <clokep> Yes, it sometimes will do that skeledrew, where it'll work for some and not others. Idk why. I don't think anyone has looked into it yet. 01:38:15 <skeledrew> must be some kind of glitch 01:38:24 <skeledrew> k 01:38:52 <skeledrew> glad to know my addon didn't quite fritz on me though :) 01:38:59 <-- skeledrew-dev has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 01:42:21 <-- Ornthalas has quit (Quit: KTHXBYE) 01:44:54 <Mic> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6b/Program_Manager.png 01:45:02 <Mook> hmm, the unhide-on-alt isn't going to work :( 01:45:39 <Mic> Reminds me of .. Linux GUIs :P 01:47:18 <clokep> Mook: You actually need another set of menus I'm guessing? 01:47:24 <Mook> yeah 01:48:09 <clokep> :-\ 01:49:42 <clokep> hicham: He's on 64-bit Linux so he can't use firetray. :( 01:50:18 <Mook> would you be alright with "open the menu when you hold alt"? 01:50:33 <hicham> clokep: can he build stuff ? then I can give him the patches sources 01:51:18 <clokep> Mook: I don't really care either way, but to fit in with other Windows programs it should allow it. :) I do use it on occasion in Fx though. 01:51:28 <clokep> hicham: He can build fortran-90 programs. ;) 01:51:39 <Mook> yeah, I understand what you want and why you want it. I'm just having trouble delivering :p 01:51:48 <clokep> It's fine. :) 01:51:58 <-- hicham-ib has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 01:52:03 <clokep> Something to keep in mind if it were to go into the real source treee. 01:52:08 <Mook> yep 01:52:15 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 01:52:19 <Mook> one of the awesome things about building things into extensions first :D 01:52:54 <clokep> Yes. :) So that's just a super styled button, eh? That's pretty awesome. 01:53:22 <clokep> The menus look funky for me. Since they all go off to the left haha, but that's my issue. 01:59:45 <Mook> okay, made alt open the menu 02:00:57 <Mook> you still can't do Alt+F, but at least you can do Alt, F 02:02:01 <clokep> :) 02:04:03 <clokep> I'll pull again tomorrow. 02:05:04 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 02:05:37 <Mook> haha 02:05:46 <Mook> amusingly, bucktooth doesn't work well with unibrow 02:07:33 <clokep> Oh, hey does anyone know an IRC room that someone actually has the founder flag? :) 02:07:44 <clokep> That's a shame, I'm sure you'll get 'em to work together well. :) 02:20:11 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Client exited) 02:33:28 <-- sonny has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.2.13/20101211011801]) 02:34:48 --> mepine has joined #instantbird 02:49:55 <-- Mook has quit (Ping timeout) 02:50:26 <skeledrew> clokep: #intj channel on typemetrics.net 02:50:37 <skeledrew> irc.* 02:50:45 <clokep> Uhh...OK, what's that for? :) 02:50:57 <skeledrew> founder flag thingie 02:51:12 <clokep> Noo...I meant the site? Are you in it in Instantbird? Does the "Founder" have a little flag next to it? 02:51:28 <clokep> (Instead of the op star.) 02:51:53 <skeledrew> well there's someone there with a little blue flag beside their name 02:51:55 <skeledrew> yep 02:52:01 <clokep> Cool. :) Thanks. 02:52:09 <skeledrew> np 02:52:10 * clokep will use that to test eventually. 02:52:24 <skeledrew> one issue 02:52:33 <clokep> What? 02:52:36 <skeledrew> you might get kicked pretty fast 02:52:37 <skeledrew> lol 02:52:53 <skeledrew> you need to be active in the forums to use the channel 02:52:53 <clokep> Hahah. 02:53:15 <clokep> Haha oK. I'll just figure out how to do it on my own server. :) 02:53:28 <skeledrew> just hope the mods are sleeping or something when you drop in 02:53:41 <clokep> Hahah. OK. :) 02:53:43 <skeledrew> k 02:54:00 * clokep should test that before he has the nicklist disappear when you leave a room. ;) 02:54:18 <skeledrew> hmm 02:54:38 <skeledrew> would it be any other way? 02:55:05 <clokep> Right now if you part a room it keeps everyone in the list. 02:55:15 <skeledrew> really? 02:55:18 <skeledrew> why? 02:55:21 <clokep> Yup. 02:55:22 <clokep> Idk. 02:55:29 * skeledrew has never parted a room before 02:55:35 <clokep> Not sure if it's the plug in or the UI. 02:55:40 <skeledrew> k 02:55:45 <clokep> Go /join #developers then /part :) 02:55:56 <skeledrew> maybe a destructor of sorts is needed? 02:56:05 <skeledrew> hmm 02:56:20 <clokep> I /think/ the UI is notified when you part (i.e. you "close" the conversation), but I'm not sure. 02:57:01 <skeledrew> k 02:57:10 <skeledrew> does the list still update? 02:57:14 <clokep> No. 02:57:18 <skeledrew> k 02:57:43 <skeledrew> maybe a destructor is needed for the list then 02:58:24 <skeledrew> sounds like a UI thing 02:58:25 <clokep> Maybe. 02:58:38 * clokep is about to give up studying and work on a richlistbox binding. 02:58:54 <skeledrew> that reminds me. i need to hack the dev tools 02:58:55 <clokep> And by "richlistbox" I clearly mean "richtextbox". :) 02:59:01 <skeledrew> lol 02:59:08 <skeledrew> what are you studying? 02:59:10 <clokep> Richlistbox already exists haha. 02:59:25 <clokep> Intro to Stochastic Signals & Systems. 02:59:28 <clokep> There's nothing "intro" about it. 02:59:33 <skeledrew> umm 02:59:36 <skeledrew> whaaaat? 02:59:46 <clokep> Stochastic == Random 02:59:53 <clokep> "Intro to Random Signals & Systems) 02:59:56 <skeledrew> k... 03:00:08 <skeledrew> for? 03:00:09 <clokep> I.e. "Intro to Signals with Noise and their effects on systems" 03:00:15 <skeledrew> oh 03:00:18 <clokep> I have a final Monday. 03:00:18 <skeledrew> k 03:00:23 <skeledrew> that makes more sense 03:00:29 <skeledrew> wow 03:00:33 <skeledrew> good luck 03:00:52 <clokep> Thanks. 03:01:01 <skeledrew> hmm 03:01:19 <skeledrew> wonder if i can find those addons again... 03:01:26 <skeledrew> *dev addons 03:01:38 <clokep> Which dev addons? 03:01:50 <skeledrew> DOMi and JD 03:01:56 <clokep> Ah, OK. 03:04:32 --> skeledrew-dev has joined #instantbird 03:05:28 <skeledrew> darn 03:05:56 <skeledrew> can't i do an inplace hack of the install.rdf and have it work? 03:06:09 <clokep> You need to purge your extension cache... 03:06:16 <skeledrew> hmm 03:06:17 <skeledrew> how? 03:06:18 <clokep> I forget the falg, give me a second. 03:06:48 <clokep> Haha. 03:07:06 <clokep> You can use -puregecaches as a flag. 03:07:19 <clokep> Or apparently I just delete 'extensions.*' in my profile everytime I run my dev profile. :) 03:07:26 <skeledrew> ahh 03:07:29 <skeledrew> k 03:08:06 <skeledrew> i'll make it a part of my running cmdline 03:08:37 <skeledrew> doubt i'll remember to delete every time 03:08:48 <clokep> Just set up a command in your text editor? 03:09:28 <skeledrew> i have my personal launcher 03:09:30 <skeledrew> :) 03:09:51 <skeledrew> what was that other command earlier? 03:09:57 <skeledrew> hmm 03:11:05 <skeledrew> oh 03:11:13 <skeledrew> that for the UI-less inspector... 03:11:20 <clokep> -inspector 03:11:28 <skeledrew> yup 03:11:36 <skeledrew> found it in the logs :) 03:11:39 <clokep> :) 03:12:23 <skeledrew> well, let's see how -purgecaches works out... 03:12:27 <-- skeledrew-dev has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 03:13:35 --> skeledrew-dev has joined #instantbird 03:13:48 <-- skeledrew-dev has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 03:13:51 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: get satisfied! :: www.unitedservers.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 03:14:13 --> skeledrew-dev has joined #instantbird 03:14:39 <skeledrew> :( 03:14:45 <skeledrew> wonder what i did wrong 03:15:02 <-- skeledrew-dev has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 03:15:19 <clokep> ? 03:16:26 --> skeledrew-dev has joined #instantbird 03:16:41 <-- skeledrew-dev has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 03:16:49 <clokep> What're you attempting to do? :) 03:17:39 <skeledrew> get that command to work 03:17:46 <skeledrew> -purgecaches 03:18:04 <clokep> That might not be for what you want. 03:18:09 <clokep> That might only purge component caches and stuff. 03:18:24 <clokep> Try delete extensions.* 03:18:32 <skeledrew> i want it to redetect the version support 03:18:32 <clokep> I forget what the actual extensions are for it. 03:20:06 --> skeledrew-dev has joined #instantbird 03:20:28 <skeledrew-dev> it worked! 03:21:17 <skeledrew-dev> funny. i don't see an IB entry for JD 03:22:35 <skeledrew> weird 03:22:59 <skeledrew> how did JD work in IB and there isn't an IB entry in install.rdf? 03:23:28 <skeledrew> what did it substitute for compat? 03:23:36 <clokep> Toolkit perhaps? 03:24:00 <-- skeledrew-dev has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 03:24:26 --> skeledrew-dev has joined #instantbird 03:24:54 <skeledrew> aha. here we are. now there's an entry for it :) 03:25:56 <skeledrew> looking good 03:26:04 <skeledrew> only one problem 03:26:13 <skeledrew> i don't even remember how to use JD... 03:26:33 <skeledrew> but DOMi looks fine 03:30:00 <-- skeledrew-dev has left #instantbird () 03:32:37 <skeledrew> interesting 03:33:10 <skeledrew> DOMi shows that all the names in the nicklist were destroyed on parting 03:33:16 <skeledrew> except the first one... 03:34:25 --> skeledrew-dev has joined #instantbird 03:39:22 <-- skeledrew-dev has left #instantbird () 03:48:07 <clokep> I have no idea :-D I haven't looked at it. I'm not sure it's even a "bug" technically, maybe it's a feature. ;) 03:57:20 <clokep> So this is kind of neat: http://imgur.com/bPo3Q 04:18:26 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 04:39:06 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 04:49:35 <-- Mook has quit (Ping timeout) 04:51:33 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 05:20:19 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: get satisfied! :: www.unitedservers.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 05:42:04 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 05:50:13 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 05:55:28 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 08:07:18 <-- mepine has quit (Ping timeout) 08:08:27 --> mepine has joined #instantbird 08:23:32 * tymerkaev is now known as tymerkaev_away 08:28:07 * tymerkaev_away is now known as tymerkaev 08:42:09 --> mepine_ has joined #instantbird 08:45:06 <-- mepine has quit (Ping timeout) 08:45:06 * mepine_ is now known as mepine 10:45:38 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 11:09:16 <-- mepine has quit (Quit: é¨ç·£ä¹) 11:46:47 --> Ornthalas has joined #instantbird 12:19:12 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 12:19:13 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 12:25:33 --> Glards has joined #instantbird 12:27:43 <Mic> Hello Glards 12:30:49 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 12:33:03 --> Even has joined #instantbird 12:33:03 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 13:01:17 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 13:01:24 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.1.15/2010102600]) 13:33:28 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 13:35:32 --> Andrey has joined #instantbird 13:39:14 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 13:57:20 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Client exited) 14:00:12 --> Even1 has joined #instantbird 14:07:24 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 14:22:42 <-- Andrey has quit (Ping timeout) 14:28:50 --> Andrey has joined #instantbird 14:33:13 <-- Andrey has quit (Connection reset by peer) 14:45:38 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 15:08:44 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 15:14:15 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Quit: I must go. Good bye!) 15:18:20 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 15:34:25 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 15:43:05 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 15:43:05 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 15:50:37 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 15:53:08 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 15:53:08 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 16:25:07 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 16:25:07 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 16:27:33 <Mic> clokep: did you use a lib for the editor example or is that own work? 16:28:03 <clokep> Mic: I did that from scratch. 16:31:40 <clokep> And I worked on it a bit more so it does more than that. 17:05:25 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Connection reset by peer) 17:07:35 <Mic> How do you have to do these overlapping sections with different markup? 17:07:53 <clokep> You highlight different parts and hit the button? 17:08:00 <Mic> That's it? 17:08:17 <clokep> Yes. 17:08:18 <Mic> No need to do stuff like going over the selection and inserting nodes with styles? 17:08:23 <clokep> No. 17:08:27 <clokep> Mozilla editor takes care of it all. 17:08:29 <Mic> Ah, is that the editor component 17:08:40 <clokep> I'm rying to get one last thing to work...(sending messages ;)) 17:08:44 <clokep> And then I'll show you. 17:09:00 <Mic> Of course 17:09:14 <clokep> Ah gotta update. 17:09:15 <Mic> sending messages would be useful :P 17:09:31 <clokep> Yes. :) 17:09:36 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 17:09:52 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 17:09:58 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 17:09:59 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 17:10:15 <Mic> "I wrote a nice message for you. Give me a second to send it by email to you" ;) 17:10:24 <clokep> Hah. 17:22:19 * clokep is really surprised AIM is still letting me sign on... 17:28:17 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com added attachment 437 to bug 634. 17:28:23 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=634 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Richtext Formatting for Outgoing Messages 17:28:28 <clokep> Mic ^ ^ There you go. 17:30:34 <clokep> Wow that picked up a lot of things I didn't want it to. :-\ 17:30:35 --> smaug has joined #instantbird 17:30:55 * tymerkaev is now known as tymerkaev_away 17:31:00 <smaug> what does the "password" mean for IRC channels in instantbird? 17:31:15 <clokep> It'll send it to the server or if not the NickServ I believe. 17:31:27 <clokep> Although it might only work for certain networks. I don't remember exactly. :) 17:31:32 <clokep> I know it works here and on freenode. ;) 17:31:50 <smaug> ah, so it could send it to NickServ. good 17:32:00 <smaug> hmm 17:32:06 <clokep> Yes. :) 17:32:12 <smaug> there are different passwords 17:32:27 <smaug> NickServ is per network 17:32:31 <clokep> Right. 17:32:35 <smaug> then there is channel password 17:32:36 <clokep> But each IRC account you make is per network as well. 17:33:05 <clokep> Channel password you give when you join a channel. Not on log-on. 17:33:13 <smaug> right 17:34:01 <smaug> another question. if I open a new channel using #join, how can I make that channel to open automatically next time I start instantbird? 17:34:23 <clokep> In the account manager there's a list of auto-join accounts. 17:34:37 <clokep> Or go to "File" > "Join chat..." and type in the info and there's an auto-join textbox. 17:35:45 <smaug> ok 17:37:18 <smaug> ...if I could still close the buddy list window somehow. I don't need that for IRC 17:37:56 <clokep> You can minimize it to tray if you want. 17:38:10 <clokep> Depending what OS you're on. 17:38:20 <smaug> atm Win7 17:39:20 <clokep> Yes, one second. :) 17:39:39 <clokep> https://tn123.org/mintrayr/mintrayr-0.8.1-xp.xpi#hash(sha256:f6f51b1deac9ba0a0aea81ea1e078d5fc46b391699b8df818b83c6b2eb515b4c) Should work if you want to do that. 17:41:09 <smaug> ok, I'll try that a bit later 17:41:18 <smaug> thanks 17:42:12 <clokep> You're welcome! :) 17:42:25 <smaug> hmm 17:42:33 <smaug> there is no autocomplete 17:42:39 <clokep> No, there's not. 17:42:40 <smaug> or what to call it 17:42:42 <clokep> We have a bug on it. 17:42:44 <smaug> :( 17:43:04 <clokep> I know. 17:43:23 <clokep> There's an extension that lets you double click on what people said to reply, but auto-complete isn't quite there. 17:44:08 <smaug> I'm just testing instantbird to see whether I could replace chatzilla 17:44:24 <clokep> Understandable. :) 17:44:38 <smaug> autocomplete is kind of must-have 17:45:11 <clokep> Yes. 17:45:38 <smaug> If instantbird could handle skype chats too, that would be awesome 17:45:58 <clokep> Yes, something we want to add. 17:46:02 <smaug> skype would need to be running sure, but just to handle all the IM in one window... 17:46:33 <clokep> Yup, although if SkypeKit ever leaves better it's possible it could use that. 17:52:10 <-- Mic has quit (Connection reset by peer) 18:01:40 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com added attachment 438 to bug 634. 18:01:44 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=634 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Richtext Formatting for Outgoing Messages 18:05:54 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 18:05:54 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 18:10:52 <Mic> clokep: some question concerning the editor patch 18:10:58 <Mic> *bug 18:11:09 <Mic> What's the expected result? 18:11:10 <clokep> I hope you looked at the second one I just put up and not the first one? 18:11:27 <clokep> Righ tnow? A lot of garbled HTMl goes into the message. 18:11:41 <Mic> Should there be only the editor component left or both the input box and the editor box 18:11:51 <clokep> Only the editor box. 18:11:54 * tymerkaev_away is now known as tymerkaev 18:11:56 <Mic> and one way to switch between them 18:11:59 <Mic> ah, ok 18:12:27 <Mic> but you can hopefully hide the edit buttons if you're not one of the fancy-message guys? 18:13:29 <clokep> Yes. 18:13:49 <clokep> There's also a "text" mode as opposed to HTML, which I'm hoping...makes it so the buttons won't do anything anyway. :) 18:14:30 <Mic> I wanted to reclaim the space they take though ;) 18:15:38 <Mic> The input box can adjust its size automatically to the entered text, I guess you will make it work with the editor instead as well? 18:16:47 <Mic> (even though I don't like this feature as it is) 18:16:59 <clokep> Yes, it needs to be made to work with the editor. :) 18:17:15 <clokep> That definitely doesn't work yet. 18:17:27 <-- smaug has quit (Ping timeout) 18:17:35 <clokep> And I think for plaintext input I'll have it disable and hide the buttons. 18:17:38 <clokep> So they're just not there. 18:18:41 <clokep> Would be good to be able to collapse it somehow though... 18:18:50 <clokep> I.e. "Don't show me formatting, I don't care." :) 18:20:45 <-- sabret00the has quit (Ping timeout) 18:22:24 <Mic> Maybe an item in the context menu would be fine 18:22:29 <Mic> Like the spellchecker has one 18:24:45 <clokep> Possibly. :) 18:24:54 <clokep> I let someone else worry about those small details. ;) 18:28:20 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 19:13:10 <-- sonny has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.2.13/20101211011801]) 19:17:59 <Mic> lol 19:18:12 <Mic> Details are important 19:18:38 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 19:22:00 <-- sabret00the has quit (Ping timeout) 19:32:27 <Mic> I'm so looking forward to have time for coding again 19:35:23 <clokep> It's relaxing. :) 19:37:35 <clokep> Plus then we'll have sync. ;) 19:37:48 <clokep> So I'm looking forward to you coding again. :P 20:11:56 <Mic> The most interesting thing would be to have synchronized logs 20:12:43 <Mic> Accounts, buddies and some preferences will have to do until then 20:23:29 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 20:44:55 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 20:53:26 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 20:59:13 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Client exited) 21:02:06 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 21:28:43 * tymerkaev is now known as tymerkaev_away 21:31:53 * tymerkaev_away is now known as tymerkaev 21:51:17 * tymerkaev is now known as tymerkaev_away 22:26:02 * tymerkaev_away is now known as tymerkaev 22:48:43 <-- Even1 has quit (Ping timeout) 22:52:28 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Client exited) 22:55:49 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 23:17:06 --> flo has joined #instantbird 23:17:06 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 23:20:50 --> ircjimhall has joined #instantbird 23:37:49 <Mic> I'm impressed, it's sunday close to midnight (europe) and there are 20 different people here :) 23:44:18 <clokep> :) Good stuff. 23:55:29 <flo> Mic: I was impressed too when joining :) 23:56:14 <flo> Good night :) 23:58:13 <clokep> 'night! 23:58:34 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird