#instantbird log on 11 17 2010

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00:08:31 <flo> Good night (for real this time!)
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00:20:28 <Mic> good night
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00:54:47 <clokep> flo: Sorry about the poor HTML validation. :) I wrote it by hand without validating.
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10:13:33 <Mic> hello
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11:32:59 <Mic> flo: if you have time it would be great if you could add blocking/wanted/would-be-nice tags to bugs, so it's clear which bugs need to be tackled in time
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12:14:43 <flo> hello :)
12:16:26 <hicham> hi
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13:38:28 topic changed by flo to "Ask questions about Instantbird here. Official website: http://www.instantbird.com. Latest release: 0.2. Read http://blog.instantbird.org/. Nightlies: http://nightly.instantbird.im/ (testing purpose only), IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/. | ICQ troubles-> http://tinyurl.com/ICQError"
13:46:04 <instantbot> raynaudquentin@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 452 to FIXED.
13:46:07 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=452 maj, --, ---, raynaudquentin, RESO FIXED, latest-<version> links no longer working since the new buildbot configuration is used
13:46:27 <Even1> Thanks instantbot for sparing me the announcement :p
13:46:47 <flo> Even1: it was already visible in the topic ;)
13:47:28 <Even1> Ah, yes :D
13:47:34 <Even1> Indeed :P
13:47:50 <Even1> Very cool the nightly.instanbird.im url :D
13:49:56 <flo> When I'll have time, I would like to code a nice page to go there
13:50:14 <flo> something similar to: http://nightly.mozilla.org/
13:53:33 <clokep> Some failed builds last night?
13:57:04 <flo> yeah, something went wrong while uploading the windows build
14:28:04 <flo> clokep: any suggestion of how I should start to try your twitter code? :)
14:28:24 <clokep> Uhh....
14:29:02 <clokep> If you install the extension it should add a menu item that you can click?
14:29:19 <flo> so I should install the add-on from the add-on manager?
14:30:54 <clokep> Shouldn't make much of a difference whether its from the addon manager or what.
14:30:59 <clokep> Install the oauthorizer one.
14:31:11 <clokep> That adds a menu item to test connecting to a bunch of difference places.
14:31:28 <clokep> Then if you install mine it adds another menuitem under tools
14:31:39 <clokep> To test talking to Twitter.
14:31:54 <flo> ok :)
14:34:43 <clokep> It just will show an alert with the response / dump into the error console, it doesn't actually "dO" anything? It's just proof of tlaking to twitter.
14:34:48 <clokep> https://hg.instantbird.org/experiments/file/148985b3be02/microblog-instantbird%40patrick.cloke/chrome/content/blist.xul :)
14:38:35 <flo> hmm, is it ok to hide the twitter login page and just put there the login and password of the user, submit the form?
14:40:33 <clokep> I think it's against the ToS. :-\
14:40:39 <clokep> But I'd prefer that.
14:41:15 <flo> having the private key in an open source file is probably against the ToS too
14:44:41 <clokep> Probably, but that's silly.
14:44:55 <clokep> Oh that "key" and "secret" btw are something registered to me.
14:45:17 <clokep> So feel free to use them, it's not like some malicious or random set I found somewhere.
14:47:44 <hicham> flo : did you update your linux box to latest release ?
14:47:46 <flo> ok
14:47:52 <flo> hicham: no
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14:53:02 <flo> clokep: is the "You have requested an encrypted page that contains some unencrypted information. Information that you see or enter on this page could easily be read by a third party." warning expected?
14:53:24 <clokep> Uhhh...I don't remember. When do you get that?
14:53:41 <flo> jsut after the twitter login page opens
14:53:53 <clokep> That sounds familiar.
14:54:17 <flo> it's in a popup above the frame... it looks rather scary :-D
14:54:29 <clokep> I'm sure it does. :(
14:55:27 <clokep> Is that with my extension or oauthizer?
14:55:28 <clokep> I'll be back soon.
14:55:33 <flo> both
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15:15:52 <clokep> flo: Yes, I get that too. But not in Thunderbird?
15:16:29 <flo> how do they workaround the network.protocol-handler.expose-all issue in thunderbird?
15:19:59 <flo> KaiRo commented "Hmm, we are thinking about creating a non-profit for SeaMonkey as
15:20:00 <flo> well, perhaps we should connect on this?" on the status update blog post.
15:31:02 <hicham> sm dev think of using libxul
15:31:14 <clokep> flo: I had a conversation with mixedpuppy about it and he didn't know why it worked in Thunderbird?
15:31:46 <flo> it's the exact same add-on that works in thunderbird?
15:35:09 <clokep> Yes.
15:35:15 <clokep> Let me see...if I can find the conversation.
15:36:03 * clokep really needs to search his logs...
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15:41:44 <clokep> flo: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/479 My converesation w/ him, doesn't look like it'll help us much. :-\
15:43:10 <flo> right, not going to really help :-S
15:43:55 <clokep> Yeah, sorry. :-\
15:44:26 <flo> http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mail/app/profile/all-thunderbird.js#300
15:45:20 <flo> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=516776
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15:51:29 <clokep> flo: Changes I made to oauth: http://bitbucket.org/clokep/oauthorizer/changeset/43e21634286c
15:53:15 <clokep> OK...but that bug is fixed?
15:53:22 <flo> in thunderbird
15:53:34 <clokep> Ohhh, it's a comm-central thing, not a mozilla-central thing.
15:54:00 <clokep> I see, they fixed it by setting them to true and than manually forcing other links to open outside.
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16:32:48 <clokep> flo I'm gonna give up bug 237, I'm not actively working on it, and we should get it for free w/ Twitter.
16:32:51 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=237 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Identi.ca
16:33:09 <flo> it's almost the same :)
16:33:18 <clokep> Right.
16:33:27 <flo> twitter doesn't seem like we can get it for free though :-/
16:33:37 <clokep> :-\ It's close.
16:33:51 <clokep> They have the same API?
16:34:07 <flo> I'm still on the OAuth mess ;)
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16:35:47 <clokep> "Mess" is certainly a good term for OAuth. :)
16:36:45 <flo> I would like to understand what is that unencrypted thing
16:39:39 <flo> I've got to go. I hope I'll have more visible results the next time I jump into that twitter thing :)
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22:00:18 <iLobster> Greetings
22:02:30 <iLobster> Nimbuzz officially switched off support of ICQ: http://blog.nimbuzz.com/2010/11/10/icq-not-working-on-nimbuzz/
22:03:07 <iLobster> nn
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23:14:32 <Mic> Hello acemo
23:15:59 <acemo> Hey Mic
23:18:13 <Mic> If you've got questions, ideas, suggestions, just ask. 
23:19:13 <acemo> Nice.. one of the reasons I looked at instantbird for the first time was that its based on libpurple and libpurple recently started supporting peer to peer transfers, now I see file transfers are planned for 2 major releases in the future..
23:19:14 <Mic> If nobody responds, it only means that nobody active/here at the moment. Checking back later will help in most cases then;)
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23:21:38 <Mic> We don't have file transfers yet but a bug report/enhancement request about it on the bugtracker
23:22:03 <Mic> IM file transfers are problematic in some ways and are easily broken by firewalls and routers
23:22:47 <acemo> Yeah, understandable
23:22:48 <Mic> We're looking for a more failsafe solution
23:23:15 <Mic> I hope you like Instantbird so far :)
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23:24:26 <acemo> Unfortunately, I only saw a few screenshots on alternativeto.net. I'm running a 64-bit linux and the 32-bit tar isn't working for me
23:24:55 <Mic> Oh, that's unfortunate
23:25:00 <acemo> Compiling from mercurial, should I use python2 or python3?
23:25:47 <Mic> I think python2 but I can't tell for sure
23:25:56 <acemo> mm I'll try python3 first
23:26:30 <acemo> invalid syntax.. python2 seems to work though :)
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23:38:27 <acemo> Welcome back Mic
23:38:46 <Mic> Thanks, took me a while. My ISP seemed to have DNS problems
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23:40:04 <acemo> That sucks
23:40:28 <Mic> If you need an overview what to find at which places, there's something on our wiki: https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:related_links
23:43:12 <acemo> I just tried to compile from mercurial but it failed, I'll run it again and put the output to a log file and put it in a pastebin, maybe you could have a look at it?
23:44:48 <Mic> Yes
23:48:14 <Mic> Do you have all necessary dependencies installed by the way? There's a list on the wiki
23:50:08 <acemo> Ohh.. I should have a look at the dependencies indeed.. stupid of me to forget
23:58:41 <Mic> Is it working fine so far?
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23:59:23 <acemo> I didn't have ccache, am rebuilding now