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00:13:06 <-- micahg has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 00:14:06 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 00:20:04 <-- micahg has quit (Input/output error) 00:36:46 <-- DetoritLibertyPenguin has quit (Ping timeout) 00:37:13 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Connection reset by peer) 00:37:34 --> DetoritLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 01:02:17 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 01:08:32 <-- DetoritLibertyPenguin has quit (Ping timeout) 01:08:32 <-- Ornthalas has quit (Ping timeout) 01:12:59 --> DetoritLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 01:20:38 <-- DetoritLibertyPenguin has quit (Ping timeout) 01:21:24 --> DetoritLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 01:31:16 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 01:39:48 <-- hicham has quit (Ping timeout) 02:25:02 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 03:34:23 <-- DetoritLibertyPenguin has quit (Ping timeout) 03:49:13 --> DetoritLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 04:21:11 <-- DetoritLibertyPenguin has quit (Ping timeout) 04:44:48 --> DetoritLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 04:47:15 --> tymerkaev_away has joined #instantbird 05:13:23 <-- DetoritLibertyPenguin has quit (Ping timeout) 06:05:57 <-- tymerkaev_away has quit (Ping timeout) 07:09:02 --> DetoritLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 07:16:39 <-- DetoritLibertyPenguin has quit (Ping timeout) 07:17:53 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 07:21:25 --> DetoritLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 08:12:40 --> tymerkaev_away has joined #instantbird 08:13:12 * tymerkaev_away is now known as tymerkaev 08:55:26 <-- DetoritLibertyPenguin has quit (Ping timeout) 09:04:18 --> DetoritLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 09:14:44 <-- micahg has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 09:14:46 --> micahg1 has joined #instantbird 09:14:56 * micahg1 is now known as micahg 09:20:19 <-- DetoritLibertyPenguin has quit (Ping timeout) 09:34:47 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 10:15:12 --> DetoritLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 10:16:51 <-- hicham has quit (Input/output error) 10:16:59 --> Ornthalas has joined #instantbird 10:26:28 <-- DetoritLibertyPenguin has quit (Ping timeout) 10:28:34 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 10:30:52 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 10:35:12 --> DetoritLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 10:38:04 <-- rikki has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 10:44:42 --> Andrey has joined #instantbird 11:05:15 --> Even has joined #instantbird 11:05:15 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 11:10:38 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 11:19:44 <-- DetoritLibertyPenguin has quit (Ping timeout) 11:34:18 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 11:43:21 --> DetoritLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 11:45:40 * tymerkaev is now known as tymerkaev_away 11:54:26 <-- DetoritLibertyPenguin has quit (Ping timeout) 12:02:55 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/7fdfd34aac57 - Florian Quèze - Fix JS Strict warning caused by missing usernameEmptyText in JS protocol plugins. 12:02:56 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/49b7e15fe25c - Florian Quèze - Fix Windows build bustage caused by the patch in bug 610556. 12:02:57 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/71e29a61de67 - Florian Quèze - Hide the protocol specific options groupbox in the account wizard when a protocol has no option. 12:04:25 --> DetoritLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 12:07:06 * tymerkaev_away is now known as tymerkaev 12:22:57 <-- DetoritLibertyPenguin has quit (Ping timeout) 12:23:05 --> DetoritLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 12:37:58 * tymerkaev is now known as tymerkaev_away 12:51:29 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 12:51:30 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 13:01:26 <-- Ornthalas has quit (Quit: KTHXBYE) 13:02:20 * tymerkaev_away is now known as tymerkaev 13:11:31 <Mic> Hello 13:20:09 <-- DetoritLibertyPenguin has quit (Ping timeout) 13:28:55 --> DetoritLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 13:36:26 <Mic> If anyone likes to proofread or comment on a possible status update posting on the blog: https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:status_update 13:36:45 <Mic> flo: I could use something for the "next"-section 14:09:54 <flo> I'll probably provide a screenshot of the tabs on mac now 14:14:16 <flo> - Next/pending: 14:14:17 <flo> * Get a new mac build machine and switch mac build to i386/x64 instead of PPC/i386. 14:14:17 <flo> * Land user-visible changes (twitter protocol plugin?) and release a 0.3 alpha 1 version. 14:14:18 <flo> * Release Instantbird 0.2.0.1, a security and stability update for our current stable release. Include a few additional locales that got ready soon after 0.2 was released. 14:14:23 <flo> (those are just suggestions) 14:15:12 <flo> we had "# Setup a nonprofit to make money matters related to the project transparent, and to be able to accept donations." last time, maybe we can keep that too. 14:18:41 <flo> maybe also add that more people are getting "closely involved" (does that wording make any sense?) with the project and that this blog post is the first that hasn't been written by Florian. 14:19:34 <Mic> What would these stability and security fixes be by the way? 14:21:07 <flo> update to the latest mozilla 1.9.2.*, take a few libpurple fixes (I think they have had one security issue recently, though I'm not completely sure we are affected), and include a few fixes for the most common crashes 14:22:29 <Mic> Would the Twitter protocol be available to Ib 0.2 users as well? 14:25:48 <flo> no 14:26:09 <flo> the js-proto stuff is all new in 0.3a1pre ;) 14:26:19 * tymerkaev is now known as tymerkaev_away 14:26:29 <flo> even though I started working on it a long time before releasing 0.2, it was in a branch at the time 14:26:39 <Mic> ok, I didn't remember that 14:26:49 <flo> for 0.2.0.1, I'm especially interested in http://blog.mozilla.com/rstrong/2010/10/22/important-app-update-changes-on-the-1-9-1-and-1-9-2-branches/ 14:27:31 --> Ornthalas has joined #instantbird 14:31:10 * tymerkaev_away is now known as tymerkaev 14:33:55 <Mic> The security fixes are nothing serious then 14:33:58 <Mic> ? 14:34:20 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 14:34:24 <Mic> What about the stability issues, could it affect anyone or can I write that people would already know if they were affected? ;) 14:37:06 --> mepine has joined #instantbird 14:39:25 <flo> Mic: well... The #1 crash is not yet fixed. And has been in Pidgin for years :(. (It's the oscar crash clokep keep having when putting his laptop to sleep). 14:40:03 <flo> netsoul is crashing a lot in 0.2 and we have fixes for it, but the userbase of netsoul is so small that I don't think it's worth mentioning 14:44:37 <Mic> ok, I added the changes 14:46:36 <-- DetoritLibertyPenguin has quit (Ping timeout) 14:48:06 <-- sonny has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.2.12/20101027204347]) 14:51:16 --> DetoritLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 14:51:31 <Mic> Do you have an idea about the schedule for alpha/beta/pre/releases of 0.3 btw? 15:08:28 <-- Ornthalas has quit (Ping timeout) 15:12:12 <flo> I used to have one 15:12:32 <flo> 0.3a1 on october 1st, 0.3a2 on novembre 1st, etc... ;) 15:14:32 <flo> I wanted to release a milestone each month 15:17:16 <-- mepine has quit (Quit: mepine) 15:21:18 <-- DetoritLibertyPenguin has quit (Ping timeout) 15:29:41 --> Ornthalas has joined #instantbird 15:44:51 --> DetoritLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 16:00:09 * flo has just tried Instantbird 0.2 and Empathy side to side on Ubuntu 10.10 16:05:42 --> Tonnes_ has joined #instantbird 16:06:59 <-- Tonnes has quit (Ping timeout) 16:07:12 * Tonnes_ is now known as Tonnes 16:10:22 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 16:14:00 <-- DetoritLibertyPenguin has quit (Ping timeout) 16:16:16 <Mic> I never tried Empathy, how is it? 16:16:23 <Mic> Are there some interesting features? 16:17:03 <hicham> progressing 16:17:33 <Mic> How did the messaging integration of Empathy work? (ie integration into the messaging menu botton on the Taskbar) 16:18:00 <hicham> you talking about ubuntu ? 16:19:55 <Mic> Yes 16:20:42 <Mic> It was in response to "17:00:09 * flo has just tried Instantbird 0.2 and Empathy side to side on Ubuntu 10.10" 16:20:45 --> DetoritLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 16:21:31 <hicham> oh 16:21:32 <hicham> I think should have been able to test firetray then 16:21:34 <hicham> at least 16:21:50 <Mic> clokep: would be nice if you could proofread the posting 16:23:15 <Mic> Are you working on messaging integration/tasktray support on Linux? 16:25:54 <hicham> I have tried giving basic systray support through firetray 16:26:06 <hicham> I will need more time to expose more IB functionality through the systray 16:26:18 <hicham> notifications, status ... 16:26:22 <Mic> You might be interested in bug 564, it's about the Ubuntu messaging menu 16:26:25 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=564 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Integrate into messaging menu on Ubuntu 16:27:02 <hicham> so far so good in here 16:27:03 <hicham> I have sent the patch upstream anyway 16:34:12 <-- hicham has quit (Ping timeout) 16:34:40 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 16:40:34 <hicham> Mic : how comes you are thinking about linux integration btw ? 16:42:08 <Mic> Why shouldn't I? ;) 16:42:34 <Mic> The messaging menu seems to be the place where such things should go, it makes sense to have a central place to look for these things 16:43:37 <Mic> .. and other clients support it as well. (Since it makes sense to have it in my opinion, it's ok to call for "feature-parity" ;) 16:43:41 <hicham> the messaging menu isn't mainstream yet 16:44:23 <Mic> Afaik it's installed by default 16:44:34 <Mic> At least it was in my Ubuntu 9.10 16:45:22 <hicham> I thought you don't use Linux from your troll attempts ;) 16:46:57 <Mic> I'm using it every day 16:47:35 <hicham> that is new to me :) 16:47:41 <hicham> what are you using now ? 16:48:56 <Mic> I'm using both Windows and Ubuntu 16:50:10 <hicham> I asked flo to test firetray for me, but it didn't work as he was using Ubuntu 9.10 16:50:11 <Mic> I like that you've got packet management system on Linux, how easy it is to compile things yourself 16:50:19 <hicham> I think it should work on newer releases though 16:50:23 <Mic> I'm on Windows right now 16:50:28 <hicham> ok 16:50:45 <hicham> yes, package management simplifies things a lot in linux 16:50:51 <Mic> I don't like that there's five hundred text editors and other forks, just because someone didn't like the icon set .. :P 16:52:05 <hicham> that is called diversity 16:52:12 <hicham> you can use whatever you want 16:52:12 <hicham> but the kernel is the same 16:52:12 <hicham> binutils+coreutil+gcc is the same 16:52:23 <hicham> what differs is package management, and the patches applied downstream 16:54:07 <Mic> I don't like RMS, he seems to be a zealot 16:54:14 <Mic> I dislike extremsism of any sort 16:55:17 <Mic> (even though I can only judge based on what I've read from him) 16:55:51 <hicham> he eats from his feet ;) 16:59:16 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 17:00:32 <Mic> flo: what was the system you were thinking to use for getting user input and ideas? 17:00:36 <Mic> IdeaTorrent? 17:18:53 <DGMurdockIII> mic, what do you think shold be used 17:24:25 <Mic> I just browsed Ubuntus IdeaTorrent, seems to be ok. I have no idea what else is out there and how practical it is when it comes to actual work 17:24:57 <-- DetoritLibertyPenguin has quit (Ping timeout) 17:29:04 <DGMurdockIII> mic, google moderator issomething else you shold look in to it 17:30:11 <-- zachlr1 has quit (Ping timeout) 17:31:35 --> zachlr has joined #instantbird 17:32:06 <-- Andrey has quit (Quit: ) 17:32:36 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 17:35:02 <Mic> I prefer to stay away from Google-run software 17:35:48 --> tymerkaev_away has joined #instantbird 17:36:22 * tymerkaev_away is now known as tymerkaev 17:36:46 <DGMurdockIII> mic, what about pligg 17:37:42 <Mic> I don't know it (yet) 17:37:48 <Mic> bbl (dinner) 17:38:54 --> iLobster has joined #instantbird 17:39:07 <iLobster> Greetings 17:39:38 --> DetoritLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 17:44:01 <iLobster> there are no win32 nightlies from 07.11 - there are big problems in they? 17:50:49 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Client exited) 17:52:45 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 17:54:06 <DGMurdockIII> there are nightly 17:54:22 <DGMurdockIII> 2(iLobster2): http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/2010/ 17:55:20 <DGMurdockIII> 2(iLobster2): http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/2010/11/2010-11-06-11-instantbird/ 17:56:44 <-- DetoritLibertyPenguin has quit (Ping timeout) 17:56:47 --> DetoritLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 17:57:34 <iLobster> I meant that there are no new win32 builds since November 7. Anyway, I found the explanation for buildbot. 17:57:54 <iLobster> *on buildbot 18:06:58 <iLobster> hope today's nightly will be succesfull ^^ 18:07:08 <-- iLobster has left #instantbird () 18:33:21 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 18:34:30 <hicham> evening flo 18:48:16 * tymerkaev is now known as tymerkaev_away 19:03:52 * tymerkaev_away is now known as tymerkaev 19:26:22 <-- DetoritLibertyPenguin has quit (Ping timeout) 19:34:14 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 19:34:56 --> rikki has joined #instantbird 19:37:38 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 19:41:09 --> DetoritLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 20:06:57 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout) 20:43:21 <-- ecmuller has quit (Quit: leaving) 20:46:40 --> Amfi has joined #instantbird 20:55:55 <-- Amfi has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 21:09:45 <-- micahg has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 21:09:47 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 21:12:24 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 21:15:39 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: get satisfied! :: www.unitedservers.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 21:51:37 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 22:14:51 <flo> Mic: yes, it was ideaTorrent 22:15:59 <flo> sourceforge can provide it for use if we are too lazy to install it: http://sourceforge.net/apps/ideatorrent/instantbird/ideatorrent/ 22:17:51 <flo> Mic: the last time I tried empathy before today (about a year ago), it looked a lot like a draft and was clearly not usable. 22:17:56 <flo> They have made very good progress. 22:19:03 <flo> The version I tried today looked usable, and there are probably some details in it that we should copy (I haven't made a list. I guess I should try it again and file bugs for all the copiable details). 22:19:36 <flo> the integration with the message icon of the system bar seemed useful. 22:30:43 <-- DetoritLibertyPenguin has quit (Ping timeout) 22:33:40 --> DetoritLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 22:36:31 <-- flo has quit (Ping timeout) 23:13:44 <-- DetoritLibertyPenguin has quit (Ping timeout) 23:20:29 --> DetoritLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 23:27:03 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 23:27:04 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic