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00:04:13 <-- GeekShad0w has quit (Ping timeout) 00:22:54 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: get satisfied! :: www.unitedservers.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 00:31:45 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 00:42:35 --> mchaincn has joined #instantbird 00:42:45 <-- mchaincn has left #instantbird () 00:51:55 --> mchaincn has joined #instantbird 00:52:00 <-- mchaincn has left #instantbird () 01:05:56 <-- Ornthalas has quit (Quit: KTHXBYE) 01:17:59 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 01:50:25 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 01:52:50 <-- micahg has quit (Input/output error) 01:53:52 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 02:16:12 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 02:18:43 --> mepine has joined #instantbird 02:25:16 <mepine> guys, qq account for u: 1437233241/instantbird4u 02:25:49 <clokep> Thanks mepine, I'm sure flo will appreciate it. :) 02:26:07 <mepine> clokep: np :) it's easy for me 02:34:48 --> rikki has joined #instantbird 02:53:44 <-- mepine has quit (Ping timeout) 03:00:50 --> mepine has joined #instantbird 03:01:18 <mepine> p.s. which port of this channel is for ssl? 03:01:42 <clokep> Uhh.... 03:01:54 <clokep> http://irc.mozilla.org/ has the info... 03:02:06 <clokep> "If your IRC client supports SSL, you can connect to irc.mozilla.org on port 6697 with SSL enabled." 03:02:17 <mepine> ok. thanks! 03:03:21 <-- mepine has quit (Quit: é¨ç·£ä¹) 03:03:30 --> mepine has joined #instantbird 03:32:45 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 03:57:40 --> mchaincn has joined #instantbird 03:57:46 <-- mchaincn has left #instantbird () 03:58:22 * tymerkaev is now known as tymerkaev_away 04:48:58 * tymerkaev_away is now known as tymerkaev 05:00:07 --> mchaincn has joined #instantbird 05:00:10 <-- mchaincn has left #instantbird () 05:00:27 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 05:14:01 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 05:18:20 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 05:21:51 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 06:36:29 <-- mepine has quit (Ping timeout) 06:53:40 --> mepine has joined #instantbird 07:20:11 <-- mepine has quit (Ping timeout) 08:00:55 --> mepine has joined #instantbird 08:08:28 --> mchaincn has joined #instantbird 08:09:46 <-- mchaincn has left #instantbird () 09:23:16 --> Even has joined #instantbird 09:23:17 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 09:25:36 <-- Even has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 09:25:44 --> Even has joined #instantbird 09:25:44 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 09:59:19 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 10:30:21 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 10:34:40 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 10:36:09 --> tymerkaev_away has joined #instantbird 10:36:18 <-- tymerkaev_away has quit (Quit: I must go. Good bye!) 10:36:30 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 10:36:54 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 10:47:45 --> Ornthalas has joined #instantbird 10:48:16 <-- rikki has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 11:01:08 <Mic> hi 11:03:30 --> Chaz6 has joined #instantbird 11:05:38 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 11:06:21 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 11:10:24 <Mic> /hop Mic 11:10:26 <Mic> hmm .. 11:11:02 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 11:11:06 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 11:11:06 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 11:12:49 <hicham> hi Mic 11:12:58 <-- mepine has quit (Quit: é¨ç·£ä¹) 11:14:54 <Mic> hello 11:18:24 --> mepine has joined #instantbird 11:19:37 <-- mepine has quit (Quit: mepine) 11:20:08 --> mepine has joined #instantbird 11:20:09 <-- mepine has quit (Quit: mepine) 11:29:27 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 11:30:31 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 11:49:06 --> mepine has joined #instantbird 11:51:20 --> flo has joined #instantbird 11:51:21 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 11:51:53 <flo> hello :) 11:54:32 <hicham> hi 11:56:35 <mepine> good evening 11:58:57 <-- mepine has quit (Quit: mepine) 12:30:39 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 12:49:38 --> kaie has joined #instantbird 13:03:17 --> iLobster has joined #instantbird 13:03:45 <iLobster> Greetings =) 13:04:47 <tymerkaev> hello 13:25:01 <Mic> hello 13:25:27 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 13:25:27 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 14:17:33 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 14:18:28 * Mic is now known as Mic|away 14:49:09 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 15:10:33 <-- kaie has quit (Ping timeout) 15:14:26 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 15:16:01 <hicham> why IRC functionality is limited in instantbird ? 15:25:38 --> kaie has joined #instantbird 15:26:53 <iLobster> dunno 15:27:22 <-- Ornthalas has quit (Ping timeout) 15:38:28 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 15:44:46 --> Ornthalas has joined #instantbird 16:00:51 * tymerkaev is now known as tymerkaev_away 16:03:39 <-- kaie has quit (Quit: Leaving) 16:05:02 * tymerkaev_away is now known as tymerkaev 16:08:29 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 16:13:14 --> kaie has joined #instantbird 16:28:10 --> Andrey has joined #instantbird 16:28:14 <-- Even has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 16:34:40 --> Orn has joined #instantbird 16:36:07 <-- Ornthalas has quit (Ping timeout) 16:48:40 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 16:48:41 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 16:54:56 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 16:55:46 <-- Orn has quit (Ping timeout) 16:59:40 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 17:00:03 <-- hicham has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 17:01:05 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 17:02:08 --> Orn has joined #instantbird 17:04:17 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 17:04:19 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 17:04:19 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 17:04:20 <-- micahg has quit (Connection reset by peer) 17:04:42 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 17:06:11 <clokep> hicham: What issue are you having w/ IRC? 17:06:47 <hicham> clokep : no nick completion, no contextual menu for users 17:07:01 <clokep> We have bugs for both of those. 17:07:17 <hicham> thanks 17:08:57 <Mic> ahem, yes. The completion .. 17:10:17 <clokep> Mic: Is that your bug? I can't find it. 17:10:59 <Mic> It was one of the first things I wanted to contribute .. 17:11:13 <Mic> hmm, let me see. We have some things on the wiki atleast 17:11:21 <Mic> Look for the brainstorming articles there 17:11:36 <clokep> bug 205 is the nick completion one. 17:11:39 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, IRC tab to insert Screen name in room 17:12:04 <Mic> Maybe we should change the summary 17:12:07 * clokep is trying to remember if he filed a bug about context menus or not. 17:12:11 <Mic> I guess this feature won't be IRC-only 17:12:31 <Mic> Isn't that covered by the enhance UI bugs and this sort of things? 17:12:40 <clokep> Yes, I'm gonna file a specific one about context menus. :) 17:12:49 * clokep doesn't like losing ideas. 17:13:00 <Mic> Ok, then you might make the other into a tracking bug maybe 17:13:22 <Mic> Oh, we have one about improving the conversation window btw 17:13:34 <clokep> Oh, maybe that's it? 17:13:38 <clokep> Do you have a #? 17:13:52 <Mic> bug 219 maybe 17:13:55 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=219 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, [meta] Enhance the conversation window 17:14:12 <clokep> I changed the title of that other one. 17:14:47 <Mic> ok 17:15:11 <Mic> Away for dinner now, bbl 17:15:34 <clokep> Bye! 17:20:41 <-- sonny has quit (Connection reset by peer) 17:21:08 <-- micahg has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 17:21:11 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 17:21:50 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 17:27:43 --> mepine has joined #instantbird 17:59:37 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 18:06:33 <Mic> bug 451 18:06:35 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=451 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Participants Need Context Menu 18:07:43 <clokep> Thanks Mic. :) 18:07:48 <clokep> I filed it and couldn't find it hahah. 18:09:50 <clokep> Mid-aired me. ;) 18:11:20 <Mic> If you like to add completion just go ahead, that's ways better than me doing nothing at the moment ;) 18:11:45 --> zachlr has joined #instantbird 18:11:54 <Mic> Things I'm interested in are shared as search named "Mic: WIP and TODO" on Bugzilla by the way 18:12:04 <clokep> Yes, I've checked it out. 18:12:17 <clokep> I don't personally want to add completion. I mean I do....but not enough to code it. :) 18:12:43 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 18:13:04 <zachlr> completion? sorry, I just got here, it sounds interesting though. 18:13:23 <Mic> Yes, completing nicknames (among other things) 18:13:48 <zachlr> Ah, for chatrooms and the like. That would be useful. 18:13:55 <Mic> Soem thoughts: https://wiki.instantbird.org/Brainstorm:completion 18:15:37 <clokep> There's also a bug (bug 205) about it. ;) 18:15:40 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Auto-complete nicknames in multi-user chats (MUCs) 18:15:46 <Mic> I'm not sure how to do these things best 18:15:58 <zachlr> I wasn't aware that it had been implimented at all. 18:16:24 <Mic> It's not .. that's still pre-planning phase ;) 18:16:29 <zachlr> You say use smart tags to indicate a completion has taken place. What do you mean by that? 18:16:31 <zachlr> ah, I see 18:16:58 <Mic> e.g. I think at the beginning of the conversation chat box you might want to prefer nicknames while at other places you might prefer different things 18:17:15 <Mic> So I guess you might want a sort of weight for different sources .. 18:17:27 <zachlr> Ah, that makes sense 18:17:31 <Mic> Lot's of mights and wants :D 18:17:39 <clokep> Sounds complicated. :) 18:17:47 <zachlr> Not really. 18:18:24 <zachlr> if the user tries to auto-complete a word that is beggining the text entry, search for nicknames first, for example 18:18:56 <Mic> It should be extensible so that you could add other sources (compare adding textmodifiers) 18:19:30 <zachlr> do you mean like formatting options? 18:19:40 <clokep> zachlr: It's easy to understand, I think it'd be complicated to code. :) 18:20:03 <zachlr> clokep, that's very true. 18:20:35 <Mic> Maybe it's not that difficult to do after all (onec you know what you want to do:P) 18:21:10 <Mic> Should be asynchronous so that we don't block anything.. 18:21:35 <zachlr> additionally, I think once something is auto-completed, backspacing should delete the whole word. That would help you correct a mistaken auto-completeion. 18:21:43 <Mic> Let me add some thoughts to the wiki 18:22:15 <Mic> Good idea, but only if you start to backspace at the end of the name/word 18:23:07 <zachlr> good catch 18:23:18 <Mic> well, but that's the actual 'user interface' for it 18:23:22 <clokep> And only if you haven't typed something else yet. 18:23:29 <Mic> good point 18:24:06 <zachlr> e.g. only if a backspace follows an auto completetion. an "undo" button, if you will. 18:24:37 <clokep> The way I see it...it should just be like auto-complete in a IDE. 18:24:58 <Mic> ctrl-space? :P 18:25:05 <zachlr> I was thinking more like an auto complete in IRC. 18:25:15 <clokep> Aren't they the same? ;) 18:25:28 <Mic> Tab is cycling through different parts of the window at the moment 18:25:48 <Mic> Alt-Tab is taken by the OS, Ctrl-Tab by the tabs 18:25:58 <zachlr> clokep, not quite. it depends on what irc or ide you're using though. 18:26:11 <Mic> Shift only inverts direction, that doesn't leave many combinations with the tab key :( 18:26:19 <Mic> *reverses 18:26:36 <clokep> I think tab cycling through could be changed/ 18:26:41 <zachlr> I agree 18:27:03 <zachlr> I think auto complete is much more useful. 18:27:56 <clokep> zachlr: I know it varies based on the IDE, but it's the same idea (whether it's tab or ctrl+space or whatever). Personally I really like the drop down that pops up in IDEs to show you the next few options instead of just the current one... 18:28:33 <zachlr> clokep, I was thinking, you type the first few letters, hit tab, if only one word could result, then complete it, if there are multiple words that match the criteria, then display a selection. subsequent tabs will cycle through, and enter completes. 18:29:03 <clokep> I agree exactly, isn't that how IDEs work for the most part? ;) 18:29:19 <zachlr> yeah, I guess you're right. 18:29:52 <Mic> Another idea: the completed part could be added as selected text behind the cursor, so you overwrite it when typing on or accept pressing enter 18:30:12 <zachlr> I would say also, display more likely (preferred) items at the top before sorting alphabetically. 18:30:15 <Mic> ( https://wiki.instantbird.org/Brainstorm:completion#Possible_keys ) 18:30:44 <Mic> yes 18:30:46 <zachlr> Mic, that wouldn't allow for more than one item though. 18:30:51 <clokep> Mic: That way of completion is OK too, I just like the drop down so I can see how many I need to go through (and it lets you use the arrow keys?) 18:31:23 <zachlr> I agree with clokep here. 18:31:43 <Mic> Making a useful UI for it is not an easy thing 18:32:13 <Mic> What about ctrl-alt-shift-tab? 18:32:37 <zachlr> by the time I get all of those pressed I could have typed the whole word three times 18:33:13 <Mic> I'm using ctrl-alt-shift-w as hotkey to bring up my media player, works pretty fine for me :D 18:33:43 <clokep> :) 18:33:51 <clokep> I just do Function + arrow keys for that Mic! 18:34:03 <Mic> I mean that's not so different from doing a crouch-jump while moving and shooting in some games :D 18:34:25 <zachlr> It would work. Perhaps we could let the user decide? 18:34:55 <clokep> Regardless of what UI we use...I think it should be implemented soon. :-\ 18:35:03 <Mic> It's open source, so we should add a command line parameter for it as well! :P 18:35:04 * clokep realizes no one has come and complained about tray support recently. 18:35:06 <Mic> scnr 18:35:51 <Mic> --enable-completion-on-ctrl-alt-shift-tab 18:36:05 <zachlr> I actually came here to ask about the option "Advanced > General > Search for text as I type" Not sure what it does 18:36:28 <Mic> Ok, focus the conversation part and start typing 18:36:39 <zachlr> ah, I see 18:37:05 <Mic> It either goes to the chat box and enters it as new message ("Search as I type" is disabled) or starts searching for the text on the conversation (option is enabled) 18:37:19 <zachlr> that makes sense 18:37:42 <zachlr> You can still use ctrl+f when it's disabled, right? 18:37:46 <Mic> Sure 18:38:10 <zachlr> Okay, I'll keep that turned off then. 18:38:56 <Mic> I don't need it either, it's not that I'm looking for things in the conversation anyways 18:39:18 <Mic> Chatting is a rather linear thing 18:39:20 <clokep> Yeah I have it off. 18:39:37 <Mic> It's not like on a webpage where you're looking for things most of the time 18:39:56 <zachlr> Yeah, I'm generally only looking for something specific in a log. I can usually remember what happened in the immidiate conversation. :) 18:42:27 <clokep> Wish I had more time to work on this stuff now... 18:43:11 <zachlr> I was just playing around with IDE auto-completion. Eventually it might be useful to display icons according to the type of word (nickname, channel name, etc). 18:43:32 <clokep> Oh, that's a good idea. :) 18:43:39 <clokep> Put that in that bug! 18:43:43 <clokep> Or the wiki page. 18:44:35 <-- sonny has quit (Client exited) 18:49:32 <clokep> Be back soon. 18:50:20 <-- Andrey has quit (Quit: ) 18:52:31 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 18:54:04 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 18:54:50 <Mic> I can put it on the wiki if you like 18:55:37 <zachlr> Sure. 18:55:53 <Mic> Done. 18:56:22 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 18:56:26 <zachlr> excellent 18:56:42 <zachlr> I'm really looking forward to this. 18:58:28 <Mic> I'm away again, have a nice evening 18:59:04 <-- micahg has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 18:59:23 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 19:01:11 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 19:01:11 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 19:04:01 --> chrisccoulson_ has joined #instantbird 19:04:06 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 19:11:02 --> Jox has joined #instantbird 19:11:22 <-- Jox has left #instantbird () 19:30:35 --> Even has joined #instantbird 19:30:35 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 19:36:23 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 19:38:41 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 19:40:56 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 19:48:57 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 20:05:56 --> GeekShad0w has joined #instantbird 20:05:57 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout) 20:07:21 <-- chrisccoulson_ has quit (Ping timeout) 20:17:16 <-- iLobster has left #instantbird () 20:19:59 --> chrisccoulson_ has joined #instantbird 20:27:24 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 20:34:08 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 20:34:08 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 20:43:36 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 20:45:06 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 20:45:06 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 20:58:43 <instantbot> New purplexpcom - General bug 578 filed by benjaminjohnson80@gmail.com. 20:58:45 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=578 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, QQ - Hangs when trying to get Captcha from server 21:00:18 <Mic> mepine, is that the QQ bug you recently talked about? 21:02:38 <Mic> bbl 21:22:22 <-- sonny has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.2.12/20101027204347]) 21:26:39 <-- Mic has quit (Ping timeout) 21:33:57 * GeekShad0w is now known as GeekShadow 21:34:53 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 21:44:26 --> Cww has joined #instantbird 21:44:47 <Cww> are you guys using sumobot? 21:47:02 <Cww> I'm going to pull sumobot. Ping me with a reason if you want it to join this channel again 21:47:11 <-- sumobot has left #instantbird (I was told to leave by Cww. :-() 21:47:58 <-- Cww has left #instantbird () 21:55:20 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 21:55:20 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 21:55:37 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 22:03:47 <-- zachlr has quit (Ping timeout) 22:04:52 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 22:04:52 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 22:21:41 --> Mic1 has joined #instantbird 22:21:58 <-- Mic has quit (NickServ (GHOST command used by Mic1)) 22:22:03 * Mic1 is now known as Mic 22:24:02 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 22:27:08 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 22:41:32 --> zachlr has joined #instantbird 22:50:30 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 23:00:07 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 23:00:07 * ChanServ sets mode +h clokep 23:14:12 <-- hicham has quit (Ping timeout) 23:18:49 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 23:23:31 <-- hicham has quit (Ping timeout) 23:34:36 <clokep> Yay we got rid of sumobot. :) 23:42:49 <-- sonny has quit (Client exited) 23:44:09 <Mic> hehe 23:45:07 <Mic> Sumobot was qui[et|te] ok, though ;) 23:45:38 <Mic> ie he never annoyed me in anyway ;) 23:50:04 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 23:52:54 <Morian> he may have had an argument with instantbot ... 23:53:50 <hicham> instantbot: what happened ? 23:53:53 <instantbot> hicham: Sorry, I've no idea what 'what happened' might be. 23:54:54 <Morian> obviously he doesn't want to talk about it :( 23:54:58 <Morian> instantbot: does it hurt? 23:55:01 <instantbot> Morian: Sorry, I've no idea what 'does it hurt' might be. 23:55:10 <Morian> yeah clearly :(