#instantbird log on 10 27 2010

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00:09:42 <Mic> nn
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00:52:04 <deOmega> does anyone on windows have this problem noted here:  
00:52:09 <deOmega> http://i56.tinypic.com/v7gig7.jpg
00:52:40 <deOmega> I thought it was related to the theme but found it  occurs in the  default theme as well
00:53:32 <deOmega> It is very noticeable on the black seen here, but not so on the default theme.     But  looking closely you will see it happens also.
00:55:14 <clokep> deOmega: i think its from hardware acceleration.
00:55:18 <clokep> I've randomly seen somethings like that.
00:55:55 <deOmega> hmm, it never happened before  version 0.3a1pre
00:56:16 <clokep> Right.
00:56:24 <clokep> Because hardware acceleraiton didn't exist before mozilla 2.
00:57:13 <clokep> I hvae to close up the lab I'll be back in a few minutes.
00:57:31 <deOmega> OK
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01:03:44 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 565 filed by jahkae@gmail.com.
01:03:46 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=565 maj, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Distortions below the text entry box
01:03:58 <deOmega> ok, you are over my head a  bit, so... if you are saying hardware, then it is related to my pc..  correct? and therefore to resolve it i would have to do something to my pc itself?  As opposed to  an instantbird fix?
01:04:31 <deOmega> of course at your leisure.. considering your previous message
01:05:55 <instantbot> jahkae@gmail.com added attachment 391 to bug 565.
01:05:57 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=565 maj, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Distortions below the text entry box
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01:18:18 <deOmega>       I will check back  tomorrow or read the log... i have to go.  Advance thanks.
01:18:33 <clokep> 'night.
01:18:47 <deOmega> ah.. are u back?
01:18:53 <clokep> Yes.
01:18:57 <deOmega> ok
01:19:41 <deOmega> i have about 5 mins for whatever u have please..  should i post my question again?
01:20:05 <clokep> About the black, right?
01:20:28 <deOmega> if you are saying hardware, then it is related to my pc..  correct? and therefore to resolve it i would have to do something to my pc itself?  As opposed to  an instantbird fix?
01:20:39 <clokep> Nothing to dow ith the hardware of your PC.
01:21:03 <deOmega> ah... thanks :)
01:21:13 <clokep> It has to do with the way the windows are drawn on the screen.
01:21:18 <clokep> And I'm not even sure that that is what it is.
01:21:35 <clokep> If you go into about:config
01:21:37 <clokep> And type gfx.
01:21:55 <clokep> There's direct2d.disabled and direct2d.force-enabled or something.
01:21:59 <clokep> you could try disabling it.
01:22:09 <deOmega> i will certainly try
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01:23:21 <clokep> I think you have to restart in between also btw.
01:23:23 <clokep> :)
01:24:11 <deOmega> both say false
01:24:16 <deOmega> so  just try making  both true?
01:24:57 <clokep> Make only the disabled one true.
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01:26:45 <deOmega> hmmm
01:26:50 <deOmega> did not help
01:27:02 <deOmega> well, there is apositive side
01:27:07 <deOmega> naah,  still same
01:27:37 <clokep> :(
01:28:07 <deOmega> will tr u  making both different tod efault
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01:29:34 <deOmega> man, i  thought it was fixed.. seems fixed in  the regular conversation windows
01:29:44 <deOmega> then i come in here and it returns
01:30:14 <deOmega> when i get in here, it all comes back.. even in teh regular conversation windows
01:30:31 <deOmega> Thanks for your help clokep, i have to run now
01:30:34 <clokep> Sorry.
01:30:35 <deOmega> have a great evening
01:30:35 <clokep> Good luck.
01:30:40 <deOmega> thanks
01:31:07 <deOmega> i filed a bug, so maybe something will become of it  Night.
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01:45:18 <DGMurdockIII> hi
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06:57:33 * flo likes Mic's troll suggestion about GIMP and the panel-based-browser-concept :)
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09:00:56 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 
09:14:26 <Mic> hello
09:16:48 <Mic> flo: should we add bugs for the goals named on the roadmap by the way? It would help to keep track of the progress and would allow to specify a more detailed description than there currently is
09:18:47 * flo notes that we have a nightly for each OS today
09:19:14 <flo> Mic: it's something that I said I would do, but... I didn't do it :(
09:19:43 <flo> I think it would help for people to follow our work, and to add whiteboard annotations :)
09:20:09 <flo> I've got to go. I'll be mostly offline until Sunday evening.
09:20:11 <flo> bye
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09:44:55 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com added attachment 392 to bug 561.
09:44:56 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=561 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Merge "Content" and "Themes"-panes
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14:30:45 <iLobster> Greetings
14:33:00 <iLobster> Today's update did something new with buddy list, buddy names and etc.?
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14:34:54 <clokep> iLobster: The new buddy list landed.
14:35:05 <iLobster> cool =)
14:35:10 <clokep> bug 555
14:35:15 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555 enh, --, 0.3a1, florian, RESO FIXED, New buddy list backend
14:35:15 <Mic> iLobster: it should have no visible effects though
14:35:43 <Mic> It paves the way for other changes
14:38:58 <iLobster> So it's normal for atm that history lists are empty (or not working) and manually changed buddy names looks like they was before change inside covnersation windows? Or it's my local bug?
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14:43:45 <clokep> iLobster: I don't think anything should change like that?
14:43:51 <clokep> What do you mean by "history lists"?
14:44:05 <clokep> I don't have any buddy names so I can't verify that.
14:45:08 <iLobster> I mean log files.
14:45:24 * tymerkaev confirms that
14:46:01 <iLobster> Show logs show me window where there are no history files. But they are on disk
14:46:07 <clokep> for me...logs from the buddy list do not work, but it works from a conversation.
14:46:19 <clokep> Who's filing the bug? ;)
14:47:04 <tymerkaev> who's faster?
14:48:42 <Mic> Come on, don't produce duplicates just to see who'd been faster
14:50:42 <tymerkaev> :D
14:51:06 <iLobster> Well, even me often don't understand my "english" so not me =)
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14:54:24 <iLobster> And what about change of buddy names? For example i have buddy from mrim network. I use mrim gate at mrim.sudouser.ru to communicate with him through my jabber account at jabber.org/
14:54:55 <clokep> Idk. I don't do that.
14:55:00 <clokep> (You mean local alias, right?)
14:55:39 <iLobster> And his name looks like <name%mail.ru>@sudouser.ru
14:55:57 <iLobster> I rename it to Andrey (for example)
14:56:00 <clokep> I'll file the log bug.
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14:56:27 <iLobster> hmm
14:56:35 <iLobster> forget about it
14:56:57 <iLobster> *about name, it's something different
14:58:02 <iLobster> aha, found it, false alarm, sorry, my fault
14:58:24 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 566 filed by clokep@gmail.com.
14:58:25 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=566 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Show Logs does not work from buddy list with new backend
14:59:38 <Mic> clokep: any clues from the source?
15:01:09 <clokep> Mic: Too busy to check right now.  :(
15:01:18 <clokep> My initial guess from reviewing the patch?
15:01:30 <clokep> Its trying to load the logs of a contact, not a buddy?
15:05:14 <iLobster> what the difference between contact and buddy? O.o
15:06:21 <clokep> contact can contain multiple buddies.
15:06:45 <clokep> So if I talk to you on AIM and MSN, for example. I could have an "iLobster" contact with both your AIM & MSN info in it.
15:08:07 <iLobster> so iLobster@AIM and iLobster@MSN are 2 contacts of 1 buddy iLobster?
15:09:14 <iLobster> It's something like metacontact?
15:10:40 <clokep> Yes, but iLobster@AIM and iLobster@MSN are 2 buddies of 1 contact iLobster. :)
15:10:45 <clokep> The wording is non-ideal. :(
15:10:52 <clokep> But yes a meta-contact (as Trillian calls it?)
15:14:14 <iLobster> I think QiP have something similar
15:15:06 <iLobster> But I have never enjoyed such feature.
15:23:18 <hicham> pidgin have that feature i guess
15:36:37 <Mic> Is that a pro or a con? ;)
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15:40:55 <Mic> I think I jsut created my first contact..
15:41:15 <clokep> Via the sqlite?
15:41:17 <Mic> Using the SQLite manager addon of Firefox, to admit
15:41:29 <clokep> :)
15:41:40 <Mic> bbl
15:50:12 <clokep> Bye.
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20:41:25 <Mic> The new addons manager allows to fix bug 364 with two lines (or a bit more if you want a localizable explanation added to the disabled menu items)
20:41:27 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=364 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Show in the Themes preference pane which theme are disabled
20:42:06 <Mic> I will attach a patch tomorrow evening, most likely
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