#instantbird log on 10 26 2010

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00:00:51 <Foxr> Dang. =[
00:01:26 <clokep> Its possible using a nightly build would work since it has an updated backend to it, but I'm not sure. :-\
00:01:45 <Foxr> Where can I try one of those?
00:03:04 <clokep> What operating system are you on?
00:03:51 <Foxr> Windows xp
00:03:55 <clokep> http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/2010/10/2010-10-22-09-instantbird/
00:04:33 <clokep> flo: http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/2010/10/2010-10-25-17-instantbird/ is empty, is that cause they all failed/didn't build? Shouldn't we not create empty folders? :)
00:10:53 <flo> clokep: it's because the bandwidth of the build machine is overloaded, and the upload of the build couldn't terminate before the timeout (3600s)
00:14:09 <clokep> Ah OK, :-\ Unfortunate you get a blank folder when that occurs.
00:15:54 <Foxr> Downloaded the other version same thing happens.
00:16:28 <clokep> Foxr: Do you know if Pidgin works? :)
00:16:44 <Foxr> I've used it before.
00:16:51 <Foxr> Couldn't remember if it had video chat or not.
00:17:02 <clokep> It does /not/ have video chat.
00:17:06 <clokep> Instantbird does not either.
00:17:25 <Foxr> Oh, shoot. I thought it did.
00:17:57 <clokep> Nope.
00:18:13 <clokep> Only IM and chatrooms right now. :(
00:18:16 <Foxr> Any programs out there that let you use aim and msn and video chat?
00:18:42 <clokep> Besides the official clients you mean? ;) I'm not sure, flo? hicham?
00:19:05 <flo> no
00:19:26 <Foxr> Damn.
00:19:45 <Foxr> You guys have been really helpful though. Thanks a lot.
00:20:31 <clokep> Sorry Foxr. :(
00:20:40 <hicham> i think there is trillian
00:20:47 <hicham> though it is a huge resources hog
00:21:23 <Foxr> I'll just stick with instantbird. =] I don't remember liking Trill.
00:21:26 <Foxr> Thanks!
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06:07:17 <instantbot> Just appeared in Pidgin News - default :
06:07:18 <instantbot> http://theflamingbanker.blogspot.com/2010/10/death-of-thousand-tickets.html - John Bailey: Death of a thousand tickets
06:11:51 <flo> Interesting read :)
06:12:05 * flo may wait before upgrading the nightlies to 2.7.4 finally
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09:43:34 <Mic> hi
10:19:34 <Mic> flo: how large is the risk to break an existing profile with the new buddy list backend?
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10:52:13 <flo> Mic: almost nonexistent.
10:52:25 <flo> Certainly <10%
10:53:24 <flo> I admit I've copied my blist.sqlite file before using my default profile for the first time, but it was when testing with a real profile for the first time, not with the code I've finally commited, which I'm more confident in
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10:59:52 <Mic> I backupped my profile anyways, so it's no problem
11:00:21 <Mic> It compiled fine atleast after I fixed my build problems
11:00:33 <Mic> I haven't really tested it yet though
11:01:14 <Mic> Slowly I'm getting the hang of it
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11:31:08 <instantbot> idechix@instantbird.org denied review for attachment 363 on bug 483.
11:31:09 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=483 min, --, ---, tymerkaev, ASSI, Instantbird default theme has no preview image
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11:35:41 <instantbot> idechix@instantbird.org added attachment 390 to bug 483.
11:35:43 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=483 min, --, ---, tymerkaev, ASSI, Instantbird default theme has no preview image
11:41:19 <tymerkaev> idechix: Sacco-Vanzetti Instantbird bold 32pt black?
11:41:29 <idechix> no ^^
11:41:48 <tymerkaev> brown?
11:42:07 <idechix> that font is used only for text content, not for the logo
11:43:28 <idechix> as you can see I gave you a png to use directly in your picture
11:43:45 <idechix> I'm sorry but I can't give you the font directly, because it dosen't exist ! XD
11:43:55 <idechix> *doesn't
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12:47:10 <Mic> flo: I'm having quite a few problem with a build of the latest code, here's a copy/paste of the error console: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/446
12:47:32 <Mic> I'd file bugs if I knew that it's not me doing something stupid
12:47:37 <Mic> *knew for sure
12:48:44 <Mic> oh, I omitted a few lines of a repeating entry of line 68 in this pastebin
12:49:05 <clokep> Mic: I think those are mostly bugs I get too...
12:49:15 <clokep> With the normal build.
12:49:46 <Mic> well, the xpc + IRC items for sure
12:49:51 <flo> Mic: this is an old (pre moz2) build you have updated, right?
12:50:22 <Mic> I removed the repository and cloned it anew because I had problems before
12:50:32 <clokep> Mic: I get all of those except the zoom manager one.
12:50:33 <flo> but the objdir?
12:50:42 <flo> you seem to have (a least) old manifest files
12:51:01 <flo> there should be no xpcnativewrappers errros in toolkit.manifest and instantbird.manifest
12:51:04 <Mic> ok, I'll make sure I clean the obj-dir maybe I forgot to do so
12:51:15 <flo> in the add-ons that's expected
12:51:15 <Mic> *, maybe
12:51:19 <Mic> sure
12:51:28 <Mic> brb
12:51:33 <clokep> Oops. I just assumed those were all extensions errors. :)
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12:51:42 <clokep> (Which we all definitely need to update those eventually...)
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12:52:30 <flo> clokep: won't this break compatibility with 0.2?
12:52:36 <flo> (I'm not sure)
12:53:24 <Mic> rebuilding
12:53:43 <clokep> flo: Maybe. We'd have to up the minversion.
12:54:09 <Mic> Doesn't this only affect you if you have components in them?
12:54:34 <clokep> I think so. Somehow we ended up with it in every extension by just copying files I think.
12:55:06 <clokep> flo: I'd guess you know we haven't had nightlies in a while? But just want to check. :)
12:55:10 <Mic> I don't have this part in most of my extensions
12:55:11 <flo> the zoom manager error is related to http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/57f990872454
12:56:19 <flo> somehow you have a new libxul with an old version of the toolkit/content/viewZoomOverlay.js file
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12:56:54 <flo> clokep: yes, I know. Feel free to bug Even about that ;).
12:57:35 <flo> bug 560 is about this
12:57:38 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=560 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Linux nightlies not uploaded (timeout while uploading)
12:57:43 <Mic> pff, maybe it's not going so well after all ;)
12:58:04 <flo> ?
12:58:27 <Mic> compiling Ib myself
13:00:26 <Mic> well, atleast I fixed my missing wifi and webm support ;)
13:00:51 <Mic> I had to build with disable-necko-wifi and disable-webm so far because I forgot installing the necessary libs
13:00:53 <Mic> ;)
13:02:49 <flo> for webm you needed to apt-get install yasm? :)
13:04:54 <Mic> exactly
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13:09:11 <Mic> How long does it take to build Ib for you normally?
13:11:04 <clokep> Takes me a while, like 40 minutes or so.
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13:17:32 <flo> on linux it takes me 12 minutes on a Core2Quad machine
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13:20:16 <Mic> And it took about 20 minutes?
13:21:08 <clokep> The 40 was on my centrino duo.
13:21:17 * clokep hasn't tried on his Core i7.
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13:56:35 <Mic> Thanks, cleaning the object directory removed all of these 'new' errors
13:56:47 <Mic> well, beside "Warning: WARN addons.repository: cacheEnabled: Couldn't get pref: extensions.getAddons.cache.enabled"
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14:03:36 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 562 filed by benediktp@ymail.com.
14:03:38 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=562 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, 'pref not found' - warning when opening themes pane on preferences
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15:46:17 <clokep> I'd really like to be able to see logs of a "contact" right now. ;)
15:47:23 <clokep> And now I'm realizing it was a Skype conversation. Bah.
15:47:32 <clokep> Did you ever file a bug about that Mic and I missed it?
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17:39:43 <Mic> clokep: no, I haven't filed this one yet
17:40:00 <clokep> Mic: CC me please when you do.
17:40:06 <Mic> sure
17:40:44 <clokep> Thanks. :)
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17:56:42 <instantbot> New purplexpcom - General bug 563 filed by benediktp@ymail.com.
17:56:44 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=563 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Skype protocol plugin
17:59:42 <skeledrew> oooh!
17:59:55 <skeledrew> we're getting a Skype plugin?
18:01:11 <Mic> No, this implies no immediate work
18:01:23 <Mic> It's only a help if someone would like to pick up this task
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18:13:53 <skeledrew> oh
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19:16:02 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 564 filed by benediktp@ymail.com.
19:16:04 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=564 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Integrate into messaging menu on Ubuntu
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21:40:09 * flo reads the doc about the ubuntu messaging menu
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22:16:19 <deOmega> Hi  clokep
22:16:53 <deOmega> do you recall that command you gave me to  stop  compatibility check?
22:17:13 <deOmega> I have been using a few things from  mozilla site, but no luck
22:17:53 <deOmega> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Updating_extensions
22:20:12 <clokep> One second deOmega.
22:20:24 <deOmega> ok
22:21:09 <hicham> just change the max version in install.rdf
22:21:40 <deOmega>  somehow that has not been working for me.. even on fresh installs
22:21:59 <deOmega> with some items anyway
22:22:11 <deOmega> I do that a lot with firefox
22:22:32 <hicham> that would be weird
22:23:08 <clokep> deOmega: extensions.checkCompatibility.0.3a = false
22:23:10 <clokep> in about:config
22:23:23 <hicham> do you unzip the xpi, change the max version then rezip it ?
22:24:46 <deOmega> Then   most likely operator ineptitude.  :)
22:25:37 <deOmega> clokep: thank you  ..  hmm. 
22:25:52 <deOmega> hicham: yes
22:26:36 <deOmega> thanks guys...  may have to start fresh again
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23:26:13 <Mic> deOmega: if the extension was installed before you need to remove and reinstall it to update the version number
23:26:30 <Mic> otherwise it will be taken from some cache I guess (and doesn't work for me then)
23:26:34 <deOmega> hi  guys, thanks for your help again.. both   suggestions work... i think i had made a mess of my installation, so started fresh again and they both worked.. so i  re-enabled check compatibility, and everything  still working
23:27:23 <deOmega> Thank you Mic.. i remember you telling me something like this before... and i believe i looked in the wrong spot at that time
23:30:44 <deOmega> everything is  fine and dandy now, except that issue with  black stratini theme (will contact the developer) .   Thanks
23:31:10 <Mic> :)
23:31:13 <deOmega> I hope it is not my Graphics cards  causing it.
23:32:33 <deOmega> Mic: take care
23:34:03 <hicham> Mic : no troll session today :) ?
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23:37:51 <Mic> no
23:38:05 <Mic> but if you need some inspiration, let me point you to http://antennasoft.net/robcee/2010/10/26/panel-based-browser-concept/ and ..
23:38:46 <Mic> .. suggest you start with comparisons between their panel clutter and the GIMP's.
23:39:04 <Mic> *and GIMP's.
23:43:12 <clokep> Mic: That never happens to me, I just add the pref and voila it owrks.
23:43:45 <Mic> You might have disabled some cache mechanisms maybe?
23:43:55 <clokep> Nah.
23:43:58 <clokep> I do it in all my programs.
23:43:59 <Mic> For me it fails
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