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00:15:37 --> mchaincn has joined #instantbird 00:21:23 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: get satisfied! :: www.unitedservers.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 00:23:29 <-- mchaincn has left #instantbird () 00:54:16 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 01:19:28 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 01:22:49 <-- DetoritLibertyPenguin has quit (Ping timeout) 01:53:56 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 02:08:11 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 02:19:42 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 02:44:22 --> rikki has joined #instantbird 03:34:15 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 03:46:00 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 04:22:57 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 04:25:04 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 04:48:32 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 07:15:26 --> flo has joined #instantbird 07:15:26 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 07:21:08 <flo> Good morning 07:38:57 --> Ornthalas has joined #instantbird 07:55:28 --> mchaincn has joined #instantbird 07:55:32 <-- mchaincn has left #instantbird () 08:01:54 --> Even has joined #instantbird 08:01:54 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 08:04:40 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 08:08:46 <Even> On a rÃ©cupÃ©rÃ© 11Go ^^ 08:08:51 <Even> DÃ©jÃ Ã§a de gagnÃ©. 09:07:03 --> flo has joined #instantbird 09:07:03 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 09:33:01 --> kaie has joined #instantbird 09:37:21 --> mchaincn has joined #instantbird 09:37:34 <-- mchaincn has left #instantbird () 10:41:05 --> mokush has joined #instantbird 10:53:53 <-- mokush has quit (Client exited) 11:12:57 <-- rikki has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 11:14:56 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 11:26:10 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Connection reset by peer) 11:46:47 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 12:21:56 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 12:34:02 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 12:35:11 * Mic|away is now known as Mic 13:22:32 <-- Ornthalas has quit (Quit: KTHXBYE) 13:44:01 <-- Even has quit (Ping timeout) 13:50:37 --> Even has joined #instantbird 13:50:37 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 14:13:09 <flo> Instantbird 0.1 was released 3 years ago. 14:31:56 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 14:37:18 --> mokush has joined #instantbird 14:48:50 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 15:20:01 <-- mokush has quit (Connection reset by peer) 15:35:22 * skeledrew1 is now known as skeledrew 15:38:37 <Mic> Congratulations then .. even though I don't know how 0.1 was i think it's been much progress since then 15:38:47 <Mic> It's been a huge step from 0.1.3.1 to 0.2 alone 15:39:33 <flo> it's probably time to offer it a new implementation of the buddy list ;). Too bad I'm not ready to push it today :-/. 15:40:34 <flo> but I think at this point it is "usable": as long as you don't want to do any action (move, alias, add, remove, ...) other than starting a conversation, I think the new implementation behaves like the old one. :) 15:40:52 <Mic> What do you think about postings like on Mossop's block concerning progress? 15:41:16 <Mic> I know you said that you like to offer screenshots and links and implementations that people can try, but 15:41:17 <flo> weekly status reports? 15:41:21 <Mic> exactly 15:41:32 <Mic> Just a few lines 'done this, mocing on to that' 15:41:33 <flo> I was supposed to do it. :( 15:41:42 <Mic> *moving 15:41:59 <clokep> I was actually thinking the other day its probably about time for another blog post...been about a month I think? 15:42:15 <flo> I haven't done it this week because I'm too sad of the content of the potential report :-D 15:42:30 <Mic> ".. can try, but a weekly status report is a progress indicator anyways" <- that's how I wanted to finish the sentence 15:42:32 <flo> clokep: without looking I would say 3 weeks 15:43:08 <Mic> Was the last week so bad? 15:43:21 <Mic> I thought you were planning the API and even started implementing it? 15:43:22 <clokep> flo: last was 2010-09-24. 15:43:40 <Mic> Sounds to me like something happened;) 15:43:40 <flo> I wasted a lot of time trying to buy a used Mac Mini on ebay to replace our current PowerMac G5 so that we can do the PPC/i386 -> i386/x64 switch too. 15:44:18 <Mic> Well, could be a 'fun' task to ad (even though it doesn't seem to been funny as it sounds) 15:44:19 <Mic> gtg 15:44:25 <flo> canceled the transaction today because I've definitely lost all confidence in the seller 15:44:28 <Mic> preparing for a late night shift today.. 15:44:42 <Mic> next two days will be extremely busying taking experiments and gathering data 15:44:45 <Mic> bbl 15:44:50 <clokep> Bye Mic. 15:44:51 <flo> I was expecting to post a picture of the good old power mac G5 saying it's now time to retire it 15:45:04 <flo> Mic: good evening. Have fun with the experiments :) 15:46:56 <flo> I just spent an hour today looking for a bank that wouldn't charge us hundreds of euros just to have an account in there for a potential non profit around Instantbird (so that we can finally accept donations) 15:47:46 <clokep> Most banks in the US don't charge non-profits. 15:47:52 <clokep> AFAIK at least. 15:47:58 <flo> I thought the same 15:48:05 <flo> until I looked at the prices 15:48:11 <clokep> :-\ 15:49:36 --> mokush has joined #instantbird 15:53:58 * flo wonders if it's possible to telephone with his office phone 15:56:16 <flo> I'm calling a vocal server, which asks me to press 1 for blahblahblah, 2 for... 15:56:37 <flo> when I press 1, the phone starts a second call on the non-existent internal number "1" 15:57:44 <-- zachlr has quit (Ping timeout) 15:58:00 <clokep> That's weird. 15:58:36 <flo> that phone is the perfect example of unusable technological objects 15:59:23 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout) 15:59:28 * clokep thinks flo found something to write a blog post/rant about. ;) 15:59:29 <flo> After having it for almost 20 months on my desk, I still haven't figure out how to navigate in the menus if its user interface 15:59:30 --> jdc has joined #instantbird 15:59:39 <jdc> halo 15:59:44 <clokep> Hi. 16:00:09 <jdc> what i can configure gg account 16:00:18 <jdc> on instantbird 16:00:23 <flo> clokep: the photocopier here is GREAT too. Perfect for saving paper. In the same 20 months, I've been able only once to enter my password to login into it ;). 16:00:39 --> zachlr has joined #instantbird 16:00:54 <clokep> jdc: You should be able to create a new account using the account manager. I don't know much about gg though, I've never used it. 16:01:03 <clokep> flo: Sounds like a win for the environmentalists. :) 16:01:13 <flo> clokep: yeah 16:01:16 <jdc> it's poland comunicator 16:01:34 <clokep> jdc: Yes, I know. :) 16:02:12 <-- mokush has quit (Client exited) 16:02:43 <flo> clokep: about the photocopier: it has a physical keyboard for numbers, and you need to touch the very poor touch screen to enter letters. The touch screen detects a "key press" about once out of 4 attempts, and I would say half of the detected key presses match the intended key. 16:03:04 <jdc> i've say one thing- when i configure account there is error can not connect to server 16:03:04 <clokep> :-\ That's frustrating, they couldn't just use pin numbers? 16:03:06 <flo> for general use, you can cancel the wrong key presses, but for the password, all you see is some "*" characters on the screen :) 16:03:57 <clokep> jdc: Sorry. I don't know. :-\ 16:04:00 <flo> yes, it's very frustrating. :) 16:04:28 <flo> jdc: are you using Instantbird 0.2 or a current nightly build? I'm afraid the GG plugin is almost completely broken in the 0.2 release :(. 16:04:46 <flo> I'm not sure it works really well in current nightlies, but I've heard there was some significant improvement 16:05:18 <jdc> this program can be a great, but i have problems with gg. i'm very sad. 16:06:22 <flo> None of us have GG accounts so we can't really help debug it. Our Polish translators may know a little more, but are not developers. 16:06:44 <jdc> yes, baut i need help now 16:06:52 <jdc> *but 16:07:10 <jdc> :(( 16:07:10 <clokep> Did you see flo's question about what version you're using? 16:07:32 <jdc> I'm using 0.2 version 16:08:10 <clokep> The nightly builds have an updated version of libpurple, which fixes some issues with GG, we've been told. You could give it a try. 16:08:17 <clokep> Its pretty stable. :) 16:08:41 <clokep> http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/2010/10/2010-10-17-12-instantbird/ has them for Win & Linux. 16:10:49 --> mokush has joined #instantbird 16:15:43 <flo> the 27 pages manual (full of scary diagrams for the magic incantations to keys to press on the phone) doesn't help me to know how I can just press a key during a call and have it sent on the line. Bah... 16:16:13 <clokep> call IT? 16:16:16 <clokep> I have to go to class. 16:16:18 * clokep is now known as clokep_away 16:16:29 <flo> with the phone? :) 16:16:38 <clokep_away> Catch-22. ;) 16:17:05 <-- jdc has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 16:29:28 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 16:31:44 <tymerkaev> flo: could you show us "a new implementation of the buddy list"? 16:31:58 <flo> tymerkaev: you want to see the code? 16:32:07 <tymerkaev> as screenshot or something like that 16:32:14 <tymerkaev> this too 16:32:24 <flo> tymerkaev: I've just explained it looks and behave *exactly* as before 16:32:42 <flo> it's the backend I'm rewriting 16:32:47 <flo> the UI will come next :) 16:46:32 <-- clokep_away has quit (Ping timeout) 16:47:49 <flo> tymerkaev: if you want to look at a big unfinished patch, here it is: http://queze.net/goinfre/new-blist-2010-10-18.patch 16:48:00 <flo> 23 files changed, 1650 insertions(+), 489 deletions(-) 16:48:18 <flo> I haven't removed yet the code that is no longer useful but doesn't prevent the new implementation from working 16:49:00 <tymerkaev> why 'contact' instead of 'buddy'? 16:49:47 <flo> a contact can contain several buddies 16:56:34 <-- Even has quit (Connection reset by peer) 17:01:34 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 17:07:32 <-- mokush has quit (Client exited) 17:16:58 * flo is adding a "contact-no-longer-dummy" and wonders if there's some potential for "developers" to misinterpret the meaning :-D 17:20:19 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 17:32:10 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 17:33:28 <-- micahg has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 17:33:49 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 17:44:16 --> Ornthalas has joined #instantbird 18:26:47 <instantbot> New purplexpcom - General bug 555 filed by firstname.lastname@example.org. 18:26:49 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555 enh, --, 0.3a1, nobody, NEW, New buddy list backend 18:29:28 <instantbot> email@example.com added attachment 378 to bug 555. 18:29:30 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555 enh, --, 0.3a1, florian, ASSI, New buddy list backend 18:50:42 <flo> I've got to go and don't have time to finish now, but I've started writing a status update post 18:50:56 <flo> see http://pastebin.instantbird.com/436 Comments welcome of course. 18:51:01 <flo> I'll finish and post it tomorrow 18:52:31 <flo> Good evening/night! :) 18:52:35 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 19:19:20 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 19:27:18 <clokep> flo: My revisions: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/437 19:29:58 --> GeekShad0w has joined #instantbird 19:30:20 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Connection reset by peer) 19:33:09 <-- GeekShad0w has quit (Connection reset by peer) 19:33:30 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 19:36:43 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 19:55:31 * Mic is now known as Mic|scienceCanBeTedious 20:00:13 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: get satisfied! :: www.unitedservers.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 20:20:33 <-- kaie has quit (Quit: Leaving) 20:22:11 <Mic|scienceCanBeTedious> Awesome: the data acquisition software of our experiment just got eaten by the antivirus software :S 20:22:32 <clokep> :( 20:22:34 <Mic|scienceCanBeTedious> jsut because this stupid programmer used rootkit-like techniques to implement a copy protection 20:22:51 <Mic|scienceCanBeTedious> And I have insufficient rights to revert this :S 20:32:30 <clokep> Right another virus to get around the anti-virus? 20:32:34 <clokep> s/right/write/ 20:35:22 <hicham> nice 20:53:55 <Mic|scienceCanBeTedious> I guess I could spend the night attempting a priviledge escalation 20:54:03 <Mic|scienceCanBeTedious> or come back tomorrow when our admin is there 20:54:21 <Mic|scienceCanBeTedious> This sucks, if there's anything I have too little of right now then it is time :S 20:54:43 <Mic|scienceCanBeTedious> Our lab will be moved end of the week and packing starts on wednesday :S 20:54:45 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 20:57:34 * Mic|scienceCanBeTedious is now known as Mic|softwareSucks 20:57:38 <Mic|softwareSucks> good night 21:03:40 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout) 21:07:37 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 22:00:41 --> goulagman has joined #instantbird 22:10:36 <-- goulagman has quit (Connection reset by peer) 22:23:54 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 23:22:35 <-- Ornthalas has quit (Quit: KTHXBYE)