#instantbird log on 09 22 2010

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10:05:21 <Mic> hi
10:11:22 <Even> hi Mic ^^
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10:27:00 <flo> hello :)
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10:35:35 <Wareczek> hi guys :)
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10:36:27 <Even> hi
10:36:32 <Even> Good thing you're there.
10:36:45 <Even> I had something to tell you Wareczek...
10:36:56 <Wareczek> yes?
10:37:07 <Even> Last time you pushed on the pl repository you used your nick as a username.
10:37:55 <Even> There is a required userrname format that is "Firstname Lastname <email@provider.ext>"
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10:38:28 <Even> The system use the username as an email address so it should be in a format accepted by the mailing protocol.
10:39:12 <Wareczek> oh sorry :) i configured TortoiseHG and forget about that
10:39:12 <flo> Even: could we add a pre-commit hook with a descriptive error message for when the username format is not right?
10:39:23 <Even> It would be appreciated if you could adapt your Mercurila.ini (Windows) or ~/;hgrc file (others) acordingly.
10:39:36 <Even> flo: it might be possible yes
10:40:13 <Even> flo: Mercurial is pretty extensible, I would even be surprised if something like this does not currently exists, might even be only an extension to activate or install
10:40:36 <Even> Wareczek: not a problem ^^
10:40:58 <Wareczek> and now I must push repo again?
10:41:01 <Even> Wareczek: the only thing that matters is to fix the issue for next times ^^
10:41:18 <Even> Wareczek: no, we kept your commit as is, it's for next time
10:41:22 <flo> Wareczek: the only problem with having a badly formatted username when pushing is... you will never receive the feedback email for your push
10:41:50 <Even> And the fact it's harder to trace who pushed what for us too.
10:41:50 <Wareczek> ok :)
10:42:18 <Even> If we need to send an email about somethong wrong in a commit, it's a lot easier if the concerned user has a well formated username ^^
10:43:30 <flo> (though in this case we would have found your email from your nickname easily)
10:44:19 <flo> I'm not sure how I can do something useful for our translators with the Pidgin translations of the new libpurple. In case anyone wants to see/use them, they are at: http://queze.net/goinfre/l10n/libpurple-2.7.3/
10:44:54 <Even> About this, the message is for all translators, the feedback daemon is up and running after a period of downtime.
10:45:07 <Even> So for next pushes you should have the email feedback as usual.
10:45:16 <Even> *feedback email
10:45:18 <Even> ...
10:45:57 <Wareczek> thanks flo, I'll look at this ;)
10:46:21 <flo> Even: I'm really not sure announcing on IRC is a good way to reach all translators :(
10:46:37 <flo> I see only people from 3 locales in here right now
10:47:31 <Even> flo: Well, the other ones, even if they don't know about this, might notice they receive the email anyway :D
10:49:13 * flo thinks we will really need to create a mailing list to reach all translators easily
10:51:41 <Even> Might be a good idea.
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10:59:43 <Amfi> flo: I've just finished testing the build you have placed here containing new libpurple libraries
11:00:09 <flo> is there an improvement on the gadu-gadu support?
11:00:22 <Amfi> I'm afraid bug 348 and bug 515 still exist as long as GG is concerned.
11:00:25 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Reconnect not working with gadu-gadu
11:00:26 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=515 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Gadu-Gadu - Messages are not being received
11:01:00 <Amfi> However, after the first connect I was able to lead a conversation
11:02:01 <Amfi> but after reconnect, I got an error of 'Unable to connect socket' followed byt the message in the console gg_watch_fd failed -- CRITICAL!
11:02:06 <flo> Is the user seen bug 515 behind a proxy or firewall?
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11:03:01 <flo> *seeing
11:03:25 <Amfi> no proxy, no firewall. I will described what I have done in the comment box.
11:04:23 <flo> I'm afraid gg will be hard to debug for me. I don't remember if I've an account that actually works, I've no contact on this network, and the comments in the code are in Polish.
11:06:09 <Amfi> Unfortunately, the company that developed that protocol is not very cooperative. In fact, they do not allow to use their services in other clients so that they could make money on ads :/
11:08:02 <flo> but there's a team working on libgadu that is not related to the ads-sponsored company
11:13:38 <Amfi> Is there any way I could contact them and perhaps get any clues regarding our problem?
11:14:25 <flo> maybe :)
11:14:44 <flo> I guess I should first try to see if the pidgin developers know what's going on
11:18:35 <Amfi> It works for them, it should work for us as well
11:20:09 <flo> I've got to go
11:20:11 <flo> talk to you later :)
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12:00:55 <flo> "Error: strange event: 1" lovely error message :)
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12:20:35 <Mic> I remember I had a debug message once citing prophecy from a fantasy book :D
12:21:13 <Mic> A thing that was never supposed to be seen by anyone else and I accidently included it into a pastebin or so
12:21:15 <Mic> d'oh
12:26:40 * flo was looking at https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Jetpack_Processes wondering if we could use that for protocol plugins
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12:53:56 <Mic|web> Personas support aPNG's
12:54:07 <Mic|web> Just when you think it can't get any worse .. :D
12:54:27 <Mic|web> What's next? Flash applets? :D
12:54:33 <flo> pfff
12:54:37 * flo types too slowly
12:54:55 <flo> I was about to mention flash, and then thought that there could be open video first :)
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12:58:32 <Mic|web> Maybe audio personas for visually impaired users?
12:58:41 <flo> sounds awesome! :)
12:59:16 <Mic|web> Great, good to know that some people recognize the value of such ideas :)
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13:00:54 <flo> Mic|web: ;)
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13:02:57 <hicham> clokep: here is a picture of vertical tabs in linux http://software.flogisoft.com/nautilus-terminal/en/img/nautilus-terminal_screenshot_preferences.png
13:03:47 <clokep> hicham: Oh interesting...
13:09:59 <Mic|web> flo: is the backout-patch working by the way?
13:10:21 <flo> maybe :)
13:10:39 <flo> yes
13:10:44 <flo> (just checked on my mac nightly)
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13:11:29 <Mic|web> Great :)
13:11:58 <flo> if you have a linux nightly you can update it and check too
13:12:03 <flo> if you are on windows, you are out of luck
13:18:15 <Mic|web> I'd prefer if it were the other way ..
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13:24:03 <flo> I would prefer if I didn't have to look into that build failure ;)
13:25:49 <clokep> Mic|web What's this about a screenshot yesterda?
13:29:33 <flo> someone is offering us (contact@ib.org) some "new animated smileys for Instantbird": http://www.narod.ru/guestbook/?owner=45656239&mainhtml=gbgui.txt&messageshtml=gbmsg.txt
13:29:41 <Mic|web> ha, this will emerge in a few days I guess .. so far it is looking good ;)
13:32:01 <Mic|web> What about the smilieys?
13:32:49 <Mic|web> Is he offering to create an addon or does he suggest to included them by default?
13:33:13 <flo> I don't know :)
13:34:04 <clokep> Can't really say I'm a huge fan of those. :)
13:34:55 <Mic|web> Not exactly my taste either (which doesn't really matter either;)
13:35:10 <hicham> clokep: the widget I showed you is a regular GtkNotebook FWIW
13:35:34 * flo is happy to have a workaround for the taste debate: animated smileys don't work correctly yet! :)
13:36:00 <clokep> hicham: Yeah. I'll check it out and see how it differs kind of.
13:36:39 <Mic|web> Yes, it looks like Gtk
13:37:10 <hicham> the GtkNotebook supports the vertial tabs property directly
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13:45:52 <Mic|web> http://www.whatismyscreenresolution.com/
13:45:55 <Mic|web> lol
13:46:48 <flo> with a nice amazon-sponsored link to "absolute beginner's guide to computer basics" :)
13:48:16 * flo is looking for a changeset that could cause our build issue in this range: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?fromchange=8f82aa15328cee71dd69115369ee4dce17d6f5e8&tochange=cdb90b48f19ff8e332a4bbbb22f9d2071a4d8796
13:49:21 <clokep> Psh that whole changeset is merges! :P
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16:02:23 <clokep> Able to find anything in those changesets? :-\
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16:40:45 <clokep> flo: I took a brief look at making chat rooms the other day and I was pretty confused at what had to be done. I tried using the getChatRoomDefaultFieldValues but it threw an exception about not existing?
16:41:06 <clokep> If there's going to be a supre easy way to do it once you work on js-proto stuff again then don't worry about it. :)
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17:53:53 <instantbot> New Websites - www.instantbird.org bug 517 filed by mikk.own.cz@gmail.com.
17:53:54 <instantbot> mikk.own.cz@gmail.com added attachment 357 to bug 517.
17:53:57 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=517 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Incorrect number of comments
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18:03:38 <instantbot> New Websites - www.instantbird.com bug 518 filed by mikk.own.cz@gmail.com.
18:03:40 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=518 min, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, no link to main page
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18:39:22 <clokep> flo Has you/anyone else tried to sign up for SkypeKit beta? Just curious.
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20:22:48 <clokep> Even1 seems that the Windows nightly worked: http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/242? (Just got a download prompt.) Updating now...
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20:24:09 <clokep> Seems to be working. ;)
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20:35:06 <Mic1> :)
20:35:20 <Mic1> Great .. ugly, but great.
20:35:20 <Mic1> ;)
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20:40:00 <clokep> Mic1: What's ugly, but great?
20:40:07 <Mic1> The addon manager
20:40:25 <clokep> Ohhh.
20:40:34 <clokep> Oh yay, it works. :)
20:40:45 <clokep> I'm wondering if we should post the patch in that bug?
20:42:55 <clokep> It'll be nice to be able to disable stuff finally haha.
20:43:24 <clokep> Hmm...does nothing have icons? Haha.
20:44:08 <Mic1> for me it has
20:44:21 <Mic1> The vertical tabs have and the addons/plugins have icons
20:45:14 <clokep> The only extension I have that has an icon is My LJ Talk one.
20:45:25 <clokep> But I might just happen to be using a lot that don't have icons. :)
20:45:53 <Mic1> Only my always on top  extension has an icon here
20:46:02 <clokep> Oh OK. :) Never mind though.
20:46:03 <Mic1> Anything else has the jigsaw puzzle piece
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