#instantbird log on 09 20 2010

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08:20:29 <ChrisThomas> Hi Mic
08:20:46 <ChrisThomas> I have a question
08:21:19 <ChrisThomas> Is there any Linux distribution that have integrated InstantBird into their repository?
08:21:47 <ChrisThomas> The answer is no
08:21:57 <ChrisThomas> But we are the first ones to do
08:22:17 <ChrisThomas> Puppy Linux 5.1.1 has integrated Instant Bird in the package repos
08:22:30 <ChrisThomas> InstantBird 0.2
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09:46:55 <mchaincn1> hi, who are here. I am a new user to instantbird, and I want to translate it to my locale which is zh_CN, how can I contact with you? Or can you contact with my by email mike.chenmin@gmail.com.
09:46:58 <mchaincn1> thanks.
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12:43:10 * flo got the new libpurple compiling on Windows. :)
12:43:54 <clokep> :) Congrats!
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12:56:58 <Amfi> Everybody was counting on that :)
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13:00:16 <flo> unfortunately you won't be able to try it until Even fixes the Windows and Linux compilation VM :-(
13:00:37 <clokep> Hopefully that'll be soon! :)
13:08:26 <Even> Don't be too optimistic.
13:08:32 <Even> My computer is really in a big mess.
13:10:39 <clokep> If I get really impatient I can compile it myself. :D
13:10:59 <flo> clokep: I thought you didn't care about gadu-gadu ;)
13:11:29 <flo> oh well, at worst I can make package and upload that build for Amfi to test the new gadu-gadu plugin :)
13:11:39 <clokep> flo: I don't. :P I'm happy we have Mozilla2, just haven't had a chance to play w/ any of the features yet.
13:12:19 <flo> there are already moz2 nightlies for all OSes
13:12:24 <Amfi> flo: I'm always open to test new things.
13:13:14 <clokep> flo: I know! Just saying I was looking forward to that much more than updated libpurple. :)
13:13:46 <flo> :)
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13:52:17 <clokep> flo: Do you always read the logs? Someone came on talking about zh_CN translation? http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/100920/#m39
13:52:34 <flo> I saw that
13:52:50 <clokep> I figured, but just wanted to make sure. :)
13:53:15 <flo> I read the logs almost everyday, but sometimes I may miss some conversations
13:55:16 <flo> we would need someone to coordinate the localization efforts :)
13:56:26 <Amfi> you're the one so far :)
13:56:38 <flo> I'm doing it very badly
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13:58:47 <flo> Amfi: by the way, I'm ashamed I haven't replied (yet?) to your great feedback email about what you tried to do to spread Instantbird in Poland.
13:58:53 <flo> that was very appreciated! ;)
13:59:44 <Amfi> It was just a longer summary of what we're doing here :)
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15:11:03 <flo> if any of you can't wait to try the new libpurple on Windows: http://queze.net/goinfre/instantbird-0.3a1pre.en-US.win32.zip
15:16:40 <clokep> I'll give it a try at some point probably, but everything works for me. :-D
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15:45:53 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/e15e9dbb4800 - Florian Quèze - Upgrade libpurple from version 2.6.6 to 2.7.3.
15:45:54 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/7410f2c29abb - Benedikt P. - Bug 508 - Missing variable declaration in blist.js, r=fqueze
15:48:37 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 508 to FIXED.
15:48:39 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=508 tri, --, 0.3a1, leeraccount, RESO FIXED, Missing declaration of variable in blist.js:showLogs()
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15:59:12 <clokep> Yay for updating libpurple...
15:59:34 <clokep> flo: I occasionally crash on standby, how can I actually get the crash ID's I've sent?
15:59:40 <clokep> (I think we talked about this once bfeore? :-\)
15:59:45 <flo> openDialog("about:crashes")
16:00:52 <clokep> http://crash-stats.instantbird.com/report/index/bp-3007be8f-7e1e-42b3-be1d-f93652100920 and http://crash-stats.instantbird.com/report/index/bp-b6b95679-ccce-4611-b804-73a8b2100915
16:01:13 <flo> oscar plugin
16:01:54 <clokep> So it possible that's fixed now? :P
16:02:03 <flo> I hope so
16:02:15 <flo> it was a very common crash
16:02:34 <flo> I've never been able to reproduce it though :-/
16:02:46 <clokep> I get it ~once a day, maybe every other day.
16:02:54 <flo> and the oscar code is not clear enough for me to guess where the problem was
16:02:57 <clokep> It seems to be when I standby + switch networks while I'm in standby.
16:03:43 <flo> does it happen all the time when you do that, or just once in a while?
16:04:26 <clokep> Not sure. I don't think it happens often enough to be all the time.
16:06:09 * flo hopes it will be fixed with the next nightly :)
16:06:35 <flo> by the way, we don't have symbols on the server for the build I uploaded myself, so crash reports from it (if the crash reporter is even enabled) would be useless
16:09:24 <clokep> Ah OK. I'll keep that in mind. :)
16:09:46 <flo> it doesn't hurt if you send them anyway
16:10:10 <clokep> I wasn't going to use it much (was just trying it out since I happen to crash between classes), but now I will to see if that crash goes away.
16:10:30 <flo> you can also crash with a new crash ;)
16:10:33 <flo> it's a new libpurple :)
16:11:17 <clokep> Yes, well I'm assuming no new bugs were introduced. :-D But its libpurple, so who knows.
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16:28:38 <clokep> flo: Did the Instantbird icon change...? Or is this the debug icon?
16:28:51 <flo> which icon is it?
16:29:06 <flo> it's it the regular nightly icon?
16:29:10 <clokep> Mine + two people icon flying around it.
16:29:19 <clokep> The regular nightly is a mine + 4 envelopes around it.
16:30:25 <Mic> :D
16:30:45 <flo> we have add a different icon for the buddy list and for conversation windows for years I think
16:30:49 <flo> *had
16:31:05 <clokep> I'm talking about the one in my taskbar. :)
16:32:06 <clokep> Class now, bye.
16:32:38 * flo is trying to produce a dirty patch to make the add-on manager "work"
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16:37:05 <flo> arg, 13 patches above it in extensions.js
16:47:18 <Mic> What's the solution?
16:47:32 <Mic> * 'solution'
16:49:37 <flo> I'm not looking for a real solution, but just trying to backout the parts of the patch from bug 562797 that breaks us
16:55:20 <flo> Mic: this is what I currently have
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16:57:24 <flo> apparently message themes don't work when they are installed without being unpacked
16:58:39 <Mic> I'm sorry, I'm not sure I understand what you meant with "this is what I currently have" ?
16:58:43 <flo> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/390
16:58:51 <flo> I meant to paste this link at the end of the sentence ;)
16:59:32 <Mic> ok, this is pretty much undoing the patch from the bug you mentioned
16:59:55 <flo> I tried to undo only the parts that are related to the problem
16:59:56 <Mic> I already had a look at it and recognized the push/pop thing and the loadView
17:01:17 <flo> I think I'll push this patch in our set of patches so that the next nightlies "work"
17:16:40 <Mic> Fixing the addon manager is good ;)
17:17:09 <Mic> I guess they included the history because they forget to add a back-to-overview link when looking at a detail view of an extensions :P
17:25:41 <flo> clicking on the tab on the left works
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17:27:37 <iLobster> Greetings
17:29:27 <Mic> hello
17:29:51 <flo> hmm, I'm not even sure I've updated mozilla-central to the tip before producing this patch :-S
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17:31:24 <iLobster> I get new (for me) error with 2.7.3 libpurple version of Instantbird - it's "Malicious challenge from server" when i'm trying to connect to my jabber account at jabber.org
17:32:41 <iLobster> text of this error is... hmm... cool
17:33:57 <iLobster> What does it (Malicious challenge from server) mean?
17:34:29 <flo> I've no idea
17:34:37 <flo> will need to read the source code to understand
17:35:28 <flo> it doesn't apply :(
17:35:33 * flo feels stupid
17:36:00 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/81b5c7ff5b27 - Florian Quèze - Partial backout of the patch from bug 562797 to temporarily fix the add-on manager.
17:41:45 <flo> I think I'm too tired to do anything good this evening. I was just about to push accidentally a few debug dumps...
17:44:45 <iLobster> heh, was able to connect to jabber.org without error with checked "force old (port 5223) SSL" option in advanced options of account
17:46:00 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/97e5db711d11 - Florian Quèze - Make the patch in changeset 81b5c7ff5b27 actually apply with current mozilla-central tip.
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17:47:03 <flo> ok, that's better this time :)
17:47:09 <flo> Good evening :)
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19:32:02 <clokep> Eek looking at diffs of diffs gets confusing fast.
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21:15:24 <Mic> clokep: I read bug 451 a few minutes ago
21:15:28 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=451 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Participants Need Context Menu
21:15:47 <clokep> Yes? Also probably a tooltip.
21:15:55 <clokep> I've thought about working on it but never really got started.
21:15:57 <Mic> At one part the discussion went on over protocol specific actions/UI
21:16:10 <clokep> Yes, it did. :) (Which lead to me starting work on the IRC in JS)
21:16:29 <Mic> This is not only limited to IRC or the conversation window ..
21:16:55 <Mic> I think at other places it could also make sense to have different actions available for different protocols
21:17:12 <Mic> e.g. for going to the profile of a myspace or facebook contact from the buddy list
21:17:46 <clokep> I agree. Just thinking IRC since I use it a lot. :)
21:18:09 <Mic> Yes, the IRC problem is more visible than the other
21:18:36 <clokep> And I don't ues chat rooms in other protocols so the chat specific stuff is only IRC to me, but I agree a lot of "stuff" needs to be more available.
21:18:50 <Mic> Maybe the topic bar should have a context menu with an edit and close option
21:18:58 <Mic> btw
21:19:26 <clokep> Yes, and the edit needs to be grayed out if you're not op.
21:19:43 <Mic> Or "(un-)restrict topic changes" if you've got sufficient rights to change this mode
21:19:44 <clokep> Conversations probably need some fields like "is op" and stuff, but does that "transition" across protocols? I don't know. :-\
21:20:26 <Mic> We have a bug on something like the greying-out of the topic bar already
21:20:34 <Mic> I'm quite sure I filed one one day
21:20:56 <Mic> bug 318
21:21:00 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Check if topic on IRC channels is editable and make UI respond accordingly
21:22:20 <clokep> Mmhmm. Did you have a plan for going about this or?
21:22:55 <Mic> no
21:23:18 <Mic> bad thing is that you can't query the mode in background iirc
21:23:41 <Mic> so there is no easy fix
21:23:42 <clokep> What do you mean?
21:24:04 <Mic> if you do /mode it will return the mode of the channel
21:24:43 <clokep> Ah OK. That might be fixed in my version of it? I'm not sure what's blocking it in libpurple.
21:24:57 <Mic> This contains the information if the topic is editable for anyone or not, but you can't send the command without the result appearing in the conversation
21:25:04 <Mic> *whether
21:25:39 <clokep> Ah, I see.
21:26:32 <Mic> There's so many things I wanted to do .. I really should focus on one thing instead of having lots of unfinished things lying around :S
21:27:11 <clokep> That's how I end up doing stuff too.
21:27:51 <Mic> Maybe I should prioritize things and then just work down the list
21:29:00 <clokep> Maybe. I have a list on my computer. I just usually ignore it. :)
21:29:09 <Mic> I shared my WIP and TODO saved search on bugzilla btw, in case you're interested what I'm planning to do one day ;)
21:30:10 <clokep> Did not see those. I'll have to check them out.
21:30:50 <clokep> Well in my rewrite of IRC I could do something like when you join a chat it queries the mode and then saves it to the Conversation binding.
21:34:41 <clokep> But it'd be nice if we could do that via libpurple.
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21:39:47 <clokep> Was there something in particular about that bug that pointed out to you Mic?
21:42:21 <Mic> no, only that protocol specific actions are a rather general problem and that things like linking to profiles  of buddies could be interesting as well
21:46:10 <clokep> Ah, OK. Yeah. Its too bad you can' tjust query for the mode.
21:50:01 <Mic> I don't know how the result of the query is returned
21:50:29 <Mic> maybe it is quite easy for you to implement a way to do such things silently
21:50:47 <clokep> Its very easy.
21:50:49 <clokep> One second.
21:52:19 <clokep> It something like ":sand.mozilla.org 221 +ixo..."
21:52:32 <clokep> (Where 221 is the "command" meaning "reply user mode is")
21:52:39 <clokep> So you just add a case in the big swithc block I have. :P
21:53:34 <clokep> The way I have it set up is that it parses the command and if it can do something with it...it does it...otherwise it falls through the switch statement and does the default, which is to show it in the conversation.
21:55:10 <clokep> (That was probably more detail then you wanted/needed.)
21:55:20 <Mic> Yes :P
21:55:34 <Mic> I'll have a look when I have time
21:55:47 <Mic> Good night
21:55:55 <clokep> Good night!
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