#instantbird log on 09 18 2010

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06:29:40 <ChrisThomas> Hi
06:29:59 <ChrisThomas> Why no support for Avatars?
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11:30:24 <Mic> Hello
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11:39:14 <ChrisThomas> Is there any other way to install addon? Because the extension module is broken I guess
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14:45:33 * Mic : annoyed by debugging :S
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14:49:44 <clokep> Mic: Is debugging every not annoying? ;) I can't say its fun.
14:54:32 <Mic> Debugging is ok as long as you make progress
14:55:18 * hicham had an empty debuginfo package
14:57:05 <hicham> neat, instantbird supports -g parameter
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15:19:41 <flo> hicham: it's like other mozilla applications
15:19:56 <flo> the -d parameter is interesting too, to specific valgrind or strace instead of gdb
15:20:34 <hicham> flo : yes, and I like it, except that i can't generate a debuginfo package properly, which is my fault
15:21:15 <flo> how does that work?
15:21:25 <flo> is it similar to what is done when we make buildsymbols?
15:23:20 <hicham> we build with -g flag, and after the build is finished a script takes care of stripping the debug symbols and putting them is separate files, as well as retrieving the necessary source files
15:23:35 <hicham> debug symbols + source file = debuginfo package
15:24:00 <hicham> when the debuginfo package is installed, gdb reads the debug symbols and can debug correctly
15:24:10 <hicham> and give meaningful backtraces ...etc
15:25:58 <Mic> My account sync engine caught it's first 'account deleted' notification :)
15:26:03 <Mic> *its
15:26:41 <Mic> So it's now about implementing the functions necessary and not about making things work anymore :)
15:26:54 <Mic> *necessary functions
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15:36:07 <flo> Mic: congrats! :)
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16:05:35 <Mic> Maybe I should write a guide/tutorial how to strip away the Firefox bits and replace them by own code
16:05:45 <Mic> Maybe someone would find it helpful one day
16:07:04 <flo> :)
16:10:32 <Mic> Plan is to start from scratch once I managed to get things working
16:10:40 <Mic> Doing it in a clean fashion
16:11:04 <Mic> I can document it then anyways .. this was just the test run and to see how things are working with Sync
16:14:37 <flo> are there needs for setting things up on a server, or are you using localhost or mozilla's server for the tests?
16:15:03 <Mic> I'm using the Mozilla server right now
16:15:10 <flo> ok :)
16:15:28 <Mic> Since I'm not using two accounts from the same application I think it might go ok with their ToS ;)
16:16:28 <flo> :)
16:17:09 <flo> maybe we could get an agreement to allow instantbird users to use their servers
16:17:57 <Mic> The necessary resources might be quite low compared to dozens of megabytes for syncing bookmarks and history
16:18:04 <flo> I remember at some point I discussed with a few mozilla folks (including a Weave developer and a Thunderbird developer) using Weave as a way for cross-application synchronization
16:18:07 <Mic> At least my places.sqlite is quite big
16:18:30 <flo> the interesting usecase what to merge the instantbird contact list and the thunderbird addressbook
16:18:56 <flo> as long as we don't store the logs online, I think the needed resources will be low
16:19:06 <flo> I would like to store them, though :-]
16:19:21 <flo> s/what/was/
16:19:30 <Mic> /e too
16:19:33 * Mic too
16:19:51 <Mic> I'm thinking about what to do with the current log files already ;)
16:20:37 <flo> rm -rf after conversion sounds good :)
16:21:06 <flo> I would like to start experimenting with the new log format
16:21:28 <Mic> Would be nice we could have a look at what you are planning
16:21:33 <Mic> *if
16:21:37 <flo> my plan is to finish the libpurple upgrade and the js-proto work to make buddy list work in JS protocols before though
16:21:43 <Mic> Need to get ready for an evening out though
16:21:49 <Mic> So have a nice evening
16:21:54 <flo> Mic: I know.
16:22:01 <flo> I will explain before making a final decision
16:22:14 <flo> but I would like to experiment to get some data about the disk requirement of the proposed solution
16:22:29 <flo> Enjoy your evening :)
16:24:12 <Mic> Sharing vcards via sync might be a way to do cross application sync
16:25:08 <flo> cross application sync requires using the same server for all the applications
16:25:27 <flo> so I think mozilla would need to explicitly allow it.
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16:49:09 <Mic> bye
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19:31:48 <hicham> pussy
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20:45:23 <flo> good night!
20:55:40 <hicham> g'night
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21:59:37 <Mic> flo: would be changing a minor bug report on version 0.2 into an enhancement request for 0.3 a bad practice?
21:59:49 <Mic> (it's bug 448 in question)
21:59:52 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=448 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, User Avatar support
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22:28:50 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 514 filed by leeraccount@yahoo.de.
22:28:52 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=514 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Findbar broken when changing logs
22:30:32 <instantbot> leeraccount@yahoo.de set the Resolution field on bug 380 to FIXED.
22:30:34 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=380 enh, --, 0.3a1, leeraccount, RESO FIXED, Show findbar on log viewer content
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