#instantbird log on 08 27 2010

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09:43:43 <Mic> clokep: you can develop extensions in the global extensions folder in the applications directoy ( "/extensions/" )
09:44:26 <Mic> Using file:// in the manifest allows you to have them in un-jar-red form, so it's easy to edit
09:45:26 <Mic> Same goes for Instantbird files: I usually uncompress the jar into a sub-folder of /chrome/ and edit the corresponding manifest so it uses these
09:46:12 <Mic> (the manifest are changing very seldom, you can just make the change once and keep a copy of both the files pointing to the jars and files)
09:46:17 <Mic> *manifests
09:46:44 <Mic> So you just have to use a copy of whatever method you like to use at this moment
09:47:10 <flo> some of this may change soon if we switch to omnijar
09:47:36 <Mic> So far it's working fine
09:47:42 <flo> it should not be harder though
09:47:52 <Mic> The only pain is moving changes into a repository :(
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09:48:58 <Mic> Essentially you have to memorize what has changed at which places and c/p it into the appropriate files in the repository ( or do the changes simultaneously, which is a pain as well)
09:49:26 <Mic> I guess that will always limit the possible size of patchs that I could create ;)
09:51:45 <Mic> "<flo> I fear Mic's explanation completely confused me about what he understands about what I meant by tags :-S"
09:52:16 <Mic> The thing is I think you haven't really said much about them ;)
09:52:55 <flo> yeah, I'll try to explain the ideas and concepts "from the begining" in a wiki page some day :)
09:53:10 <flo> (hopefully before the implementation starts, so that we can discuss it :))
09:57:44 <Mic> I'm especially curious how you'd like to manage settings with it
10:01:41 * flo is curious too ;)
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12:45:25 <clokep> Mic: I'm not talking about extensions though, I'm talking about editing Instantbird files.
12:45:51 <Mic> Proceed to next lines then ;)
12:45:58 <clokep> Haha, yeah I see.
12:52:14 <Mic> It is possible to do panel-popups that have no borders and no shadow, even with reduced opacity :)
12:52:45 <Mic> That is you can make an icon appear/float anywhere
12:55:00 <clokep> Hmmm...that's kind of neat, but is it actually useful?
12:55:44 <Mic> I was thinking about something like the smart-tags of Office for things that automatically happen and which need a way to undo
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12:56:28 <Mic> Or the accelerator icon of IE8
12:56:54 <Mic> Which appears when you select something on a website and displays that there are actions possible
12:57:06 <clokep> Hmm....I see.
12:57:19 <Mic> In a way making the context options more discoverable
13:04:44 <flo> doesn't these icons have a shadow usually?
13:10:55 <Mic> No, the smart-tag UI hasn't (but the attached menu has!) and the accelerator icon in IE8 neither
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14:44:14 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 484 filed by leeraccount@yahoo.de.
14:44:15 <instantbot> leeraccount@yahoo.de added attachment 338 to bug 484.
14:44:16 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=484 enh, --, ---, leeraccount, NEW, Changed icons for Options dialog (WinStripe)
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14:54:38 <Mic> Let's see if idechix reads his bugmail .. ;)
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14:58:08 <flo> Mic: what for comments first, but there's a second image for Windwos Vista+ ;)
14:58:43 <Mic> hmm?
14:58:53 <Mic> I didn't request review.. I only CC'ed him
14:59:05 <Mic> So yes, I'd like to get some comments on it first ;)
15:03:50 <flo> *wait
15:04:11 <flo> typos have such an amazing potential to ruin the meaning of the sentence...
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15:13:05 <Mic> I have troubles understanding the sentence nevertheless
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15:25:21 <Mic> clokep: for "Auto Link" you could use noautohide="true" on the help panel if you like to keep it open even when the user focuses something else
15:25:40 <clokep> Mic: Thanks. I'll keep that in mind. :)
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