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Only thunderbird visible + un-minimize and minimize of instantbird, then open "new mail" window and un-minimize of instantbird = "new mail" windows not visible anymore, so same as with firefox. 13:26:10 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 13:32:09 --> Mic2 has joined #instantbird 13:32:20 <Mic2> hi 13:33:01 <deOmega> Mic2: hi 13:34:21 <Walle> Hi 13:34:34 <Mic2> Walle: what do you mean by "open window 2" ? 13:35:01 <Walle> Click on it and showing it... 13:35:25 <Walle> its open and running but not visible 13:35:33 <Mic2> ok, so you're not opening a new one but bringing one to the front 13:35:40 <Mic2> ok 13:36:12 <Mic2> Have you tried this with a non-Mozilla program as well? Anything you can minimize and un-minimize ..? 13:36:32 <Walle> Can try now 13:37:38 <Walle> Folders have no problem, trying different programs right now 13:38:00 <Mic2> I think I'm reproducing something like this with two firefox windows and the Editor/Notepad 13:38:16 <Mic2> (Instantbird not involved) 13:38:21 * Mic2 is now known as Mic|web 13:40:03 <Walle> Hmm, same problem with openoffice and instantbird, might be that windows have crappy window management, will try some more 13:43:55 <Mic|web> With two Instantbird windows? 13:44:02 <Mic|web> Like buddy list + conversations? 13:44:24 <Walle> no, two openoffice documents and buddy list 13:44:40 <Mic|web> I can't reproduce with three different windows, but 2*Firefox + Notepad definitely works 13:44:57 <Mic|web> And clicking/opening/closing tabs can reverse the effect 13:44:59 <Walle> can make it switch document by just un-minimize and then minimize instantbird 13:45:11 <Mic|web> that is the window that comes to the foreground can be exchanged 13:45:26 <Mic|web> Strange behaviour indeed 13:45:55 <Walle> Its not realy a big problem, more annoying when surfing =) 13:46:36 <Mic|web> btw nice to hear that you use "Buddy Status" .. is there anything you'd like to say about it (Ideas, complaints, ..)? 13:47:15 <Mic|web> I get rather little feedback, that's why I'd like to take the opportunity to ask a user ;) 13:50:09 <Walle> Maybe a small cooldown timer on updates from the same user, some of my friends that have msn changes status like "3-4 times" the same second and that gets strange with a lot of status messages on top of each other, or maybe that messages that show at the same time gets stacked on top each other instead 13:51:17 <Walle> what I ment to say was simply not have many messages take up the same space at the same time =) 13:51:42 <Mic|web> That's a problem of the notification system I'm using .. I'm going to do something about it 13:52:33 <Mic|web> Currently I'm thinking to skip early changes and only display the actual status of the buddy at the end 13:52:58 <Mic|web> Doesn't help against stacked notifications from different buddies though. 13:53:14 <-- deOmega has left #instantbird () 13:53:22 <Walle> That would be better 13:53:25 <Mic|web> Additionally I'd like to ignore things like fast successive signed-off + signed-on messages 13:53:44 <Walle> those are annoying 13:53:50 <Mic|web> Which has no real value other than indicating that someone seems to have an instable internet connection 13:55:28 <Walle> Another nice thing to have would be a drop down list with the last X (like 20 last) status changes (ex. online, offline, new mail..) at the bottom of the buddy list 13:55:59 <Mic|web> Also on my todo list .. 13:56:07 <Walle> ok, nice =) 13:56:15 <Mic|web> even though I'm not sure if I shouldn't make it a separate extension 13:56:58 <Mic|web> displaying even more events .. like "buddy requests", "conversations started", sign on/off .. 13:57:09 <Mic|web> Like an activity feed 13:57:16 <Mic|web> on social networks 13:58:12 <Mic|web> Could be also fun: a nice timeline graphic showing when users were online, each user having a different color/position .. 13:58:19 <Mic|web> well, there's much to play around with 13:58:38 <Mic|web> I'm back to work now 13:58:54 <Mic|web> If you've got any other question/problems, just come here again 13:59:11 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 13:59:16 <Mic|web> If noone is answering, just say what you want to say 13:59:36 <Walle> Have a nice day4 13:59:42 <Mic|web> Someone will read the logs for sure and might have an answer when you return 13:59:56 <Mic|web> hi clokep 14:00:57 <clokep> hi mic|web 14:04:02 <Mic|web> Could someone once say something? I just try Mibbit automatic translation service (this message was written in German) 14:05:15 <Mic|web> clokep: you did not want something similar to create an extension? 14:05:26 <clokep> Mic|web, what? 14:05:37 <clokep> I'm seeing it in English? 14:05:45 <clokep> But its poorly translated. :P 14:06:06 <clokep> Also, for your history ot notifications, something like the Thunderbird activity manager would be good I think. 14:06:21 <Mic|web> I was thinking about something more fancy :P 14:07:15 <Mic|web> Mibbit adds a way to switch between the original message and the translated one.. 14:08:27 <Mic|web> Yep, there's some bad translations indeed 14:09:18 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 14:09:21 <Mic|web> e.g. it can't compensate when there are missing apostrophes :P 14:10:32 <Mic|web> Anyways, I need to go 14:11:51 --> Mic|web2 has joined #instantbird 14:11:59 <clokep> Bye. 14:12:06 <Mic|web2> flo: maybe you should try Mibbit once .. 14:12:35 <Mic|web2> It can do this "highlighting of all messages of a certain user" for example 14:13:06 <Mic|web2> just hover the name of the user on any line that he's written in 14:14:57 <-- Mic|web2 has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 14:15:16 <clokep> I used Mibbit all summer wihle at work. :) Its where I got some of the ideas for my extensions. ;) 14:16:08 <-- Mic|web has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 14:51:47 <flo> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/ I'm not sure I like this new home page :-S 14:52:24 <clokep> I haven't checked it out yet. 14:52:28 <clokep> Eek. 14:52:30 <clokep> That's ugly. 14:53:14 <clokep> And now you have to click on "Applications" to get information on apps, where it used to be the default. 14:56:55 <flo> and it's lists the about:mozilla posts as "application news" 14:57:05 <flo> *it 15:10:14 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 15:16:26 --> Mic|web has joined #instantbird 15:18:54 <Mic|web> clokep: I noticed the highlighting of a users messages when I wondered by the screen sometimes flickered :D 15:19:38 --> clokep1 has joined #instantbird 15:20:47 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 15:25:18 <flo> Mic|web: I've commented in the quiet mode bug (bug 470), not sure if it helps or confuses things more ;). 15:25:21 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Quiet mode 15:28:21 * clokep1 is now known as clokep 15:30:12 <clokep> flo: That sounds exactly like what I was hoping for. :) 15:30:33 <Mic|web> I will comment later. 15:30:34 <Mic|web> gtg 15:30:35 <clokep> And I vaguely remember you mentioning something about it, but no in that much detial. 15:31:03 <flo> I'm sure I've discussed it once with deOmega who was enthusiast about it 15:31:29 <flo> probably also a few times with Even or Idechix or Morian when talking face to face 15:31:34 <Mic|web> Seems like the tags should become a jack-of-all-trades-device thing :D 15:31:40 <flo> (= log no available) 15:32:04 <Mic|web> A pity that there is no proper english word for the german expression "eierlegende Wollmilchsau" 15:32:06 <clokep> You guys don't log all your face-to-face conversation? ;) 15:32:24 <clokep> And what's that mean Mic|web? 15:32:26 <flo> clokep: not yet! 15:33:08 <Mic|web> literally translated it is an "egg-laying wool-milk-pig" 15:33:18 <clokep> (o_O) 15:33:28 <Mic|web> gtg now 15:33:43 <-- Mic|web has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 15:52:55 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 17:04:10 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Input/output error) 17:04:11 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 17:06:34 <Mic> flo: while the idea is clear I still have a problem with the tags 17:06:40 <Mic> What exactly are they? 17:07:35 <clokep> I think flo means tags the way GMail uses them, i.e. each user can have no or one or more tags, i.e. a small string of text that groups users together. 17:08:16 * clokep wonders if there is a bug for tags 17:08:28 <Mic> I don't think so 17:08:50 <Mic> Yes, but it doesn't seem to be that simple 17:09:08 <Mic> It seems he wants to attach settings or rights to these tags 17:09:17 <flo> the concept is simple, but we can add lots of usecase on top of it 17:10:03 <clokep> Mic: Ah, sorry you wanted more of th eoverall idea that flo wants to implement, sorry. 17:12:23 <Mic> ok, like settings on a per group basis .. 17:13:32 <clokep> flo: What if I put someone in "friends" and "coworkers" tags, but then some settings conflict? 17:14:25 <flo> I don't know :) 17:14:26 <Mic> What other use cases could there be? 17:15:09 <Mic> Like grouping buddies by tag into a contact 17:15:11 <Mic> ? 17:15:34 <flo> tags are on contacts, not buddies 17:15:54 <Mic> ah ..? 17:15:55 <flo> or if they are on the buddies, the contact inherits them 17:16:41 <flo> the system I'm trying to design should be backward compatible with the current group system 17:17:14 <flo> so the tag of a buddy would be the group it is in on the server 17:17:51 <Mic> 'the tag'? 17:18:28 <flo> how can I clarify this? :) 17:18:36 <Mic> are it 'named tags'? 17:18:47 <Mic> like name: "value" 17:19:02 <Mic> or just an array of tag-values on a buddy/contact/.. 17:19:37 <clokep> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tag_(metadata) and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tag_system , right flo? 17:19:47 <flo> it's stored in the blist.sqlite file. 17:20:01 <flo> there's a table containing the tags. Each tag has a numeric id and a name. 17:20:35 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 17:20:45 <flo> each purpleAccountBuddy has exactly one tag. The tag id is stored with the AccountBuddy in sqlite 17:20:58 <clokep> Very unrelated: flo: is a tooltip menu (similar to the buddy list one) wanted for the particpants list in chats? 17:20:58 <flo> each buddy is part of exactly one contact. 17:21:04 <flo> each contact has a list of tags. 17:22:11 <flo> clokep: a tooltip or a context menu? (both are probably wanted by the way) 17:22:32 <Mic> so a contact can have buddy-tags + others 17:22:46 <Mic> ? 17:22:55 <flo> yes 17:23:24 <clokep> flo: Both, I filed a bug about context menus already, was thinking of working on a tooltip one though. 17:23:25 <flo> it's not yet clear if the tag being stored on the buddy or in the contact will make a difference in the UI. 17:23:46 <flo> clokep: I'm not sure of how it can be implemented. 17:24:21 <Mic> It sounds strange to me but I guess you know what you're doing 17:24:21 <flo> for IRC I'd like it to send a who commend to the server automatically and populate the tooltip asynchronously with the results, but that may not be easy to do with how libpurple currently handles that... 17:25:18 <flo> Mic: the meaning of what a buddy, a contact and an accountbuddy is ... is not easy to grasp at first ;) 17:25:49 <clokep> flo: The data can't be captured from it or...? I was thinking of just starting with the information stored in the account/accountbuddy. 17:26:05 <flo> once we add tags in the mix, it gets very frustrating when trying to understand (and debug!) 17:26:42 <flo> clokep: for most IRC chatroom participants, "buddy" will be null. 17:26:59 <flo> there's an accountbuddy only if you have added the nick in the buddy list 17:27:31 <clokep> Hmmm...I see, so there's just a list of nicks? 17:27:35 <clokep> (i.e. just strings.) 17:27:39 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 17:28:00 <flo> I think there's a bit more, but not much useful data 17:29:08 <flo> clokep: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/purplexpcom/public/purpleIConversation.idl#160 17:30:58 <clokep> flo: I was only on line 130 or so. ;) 17:31:14 <clokep> Would it be worth starting with just that data or no? 17:33:30 <flo> as you like 17:34:08 <flo> I guess it can at least clarify the meaning of the op, half op and voiced icons. 17:35:15 <clokep> flo: What is the problem with the who command? (Or is it probably over my head?) 17:36:06 <flo> if I remember well, libpurple handles it in a way that I didn't like 17:36:13 <flo> I haven't checked recently though :) 17:37:45 <clokep> Haha OK. What aabout chats with other protocols? 17:48:42 <flo> the code is probably the same (except it's not a who command that the server receives) 17:49:50 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 17:53:58 <Mic> /who Mic 17:54:10 <Mic> hmm 17:54:40 <clokep> I know. :( 18:07:30 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 18:08:32 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 18:14:06 <Mic> So this buddy-tag says: this buddy is a child of this contact 18:14:43 <Mic> ok.. my idea about the tags was: "I belong to this group" 18:15:08 <Mic> which would be rather "my parent is" 18:21:24 <Mic> or can it be both ..? 18:24:10 <Mic> I guess that's the problem I have/had 18:25:01 <Mic> That it's unclear for me whether your tag 'makes on thing' 'a child' or 'a parent' of the other 18:25:29 <Mic> (not in the sense that you can have only one parent or that it would be hierarchically structured by that) 18:25:33 <clokep> I assumed it was a "my parent is" also Mic. 18:26:17 <Mic> I read flo's messages like follows: 18:26:44 <Mic> A contact can have a tag that means: this is one of my buddies (ie 'children') 18:27:10 <Mic> and at the same time some that say: I belong to this group (ie it is one of my 'parents') 18:27:58 <Mic> or is it completely unordered like "we have something in common (the tag) and that's why we belong together) 18:31:01 <clokep> Your description is what it seemed to me also, I think this would benefit from a diagram. :) 18:31:05 <Mic> Theoretically tags lack any hierarchy 18:33:19 <clokep> So...? 18:35:24 <Mic> So .. I need to think about it :P 18:35:31 <Mic> but not tonight. 18:35:34 <Mic> bye 18:36:43 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 18:57:39 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 19:16:56 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 19:34:44 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 19:35:23 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 19:38:29 <deOmega> it shouldbe possible to copy information out of say a message style into another and it works d fine, no? 19:38:58 * deOmega notes he has not had any questions answered really l, so he is learning the hard way 19:40:14 <clokep> deOmega: What do you mean by "information"? 19:40:30 <clokep> You're trying to customize a message style? You should be able to copy the whole thing and then make changes to it that you wish. 19:41:04 <deOmega> i am trying to modify one.. and so thinking i shoud be able to take what i like from one and drop it into teh other 19:41:42 <deOmega> there is not some code that is put into them that forces it to only recognize certain things? 19:41:47 <deOmega> as a rule 19:43:08 <clokep> No, but you probably need to rename it so it doesn't overwrite the other one. 19:46:15 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 19:47:05 <deOmega> ok, thank you 19:47:34 <clokep> Does that make sense? I can give more detail. 19:47:41 * clokep is trying to troubleshoot his network and is distracted. 19:47:58 <deOmega> yes.. i understand.. the little u said said alot 19:48:01 <deOmega> thak you 19:49:08 <clokep> No problem! 19:59:04 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 20:05:40 <deOmega> have a great day guys 20:05:59 <-- deOmega has left #instantbird () 20:12:26 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 20:14:12 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 20:28:07 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 20:36:38 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 20:44:53 <-- kaie has quit (Quit: Leaving) 21:16:32 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 21:29:36 <flo> I fear Mic's explanation completely confused me about what he understands about what I meant by tags :-S 21:31:50 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 21:32:03 <flo> I guess I'll need to document my current plans on the wiki, so that you all can ask for clarifications on the parts that are unclear 21:36:15 <Gizmokid2005> flo: is there any reason the nightly.i.im is over 1.5 months out of date? 21:38:50 <flo> Gizmokid2005: yeah, there's a reason. Not a good one though. 21:38:55 <Gizmokid2005> haha 21:39:09 <flo> we have changed lots of things about the way we generate builds 21:39:16 <Gizmokid2005> I was going to install the latest and greatest then saw it was .2pre that was up and I was like...ummm? .2 is out 21:39:23 <flo> and the system we used to use to generate the "latest-trunk" link no longer works 21:39:59 <Gizmokid2005> aww 21:40:00 <flo> http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/2010/08/ 21:41:14 <flo> the mac builder is currently offline, so the latest mac nightly is http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/2010/08/2010-08-11-04-instantbird/instantbird-0.3a1pre.en-US.mac.dmg 21:41:43 <Gizmokid2005> ahh 21:41:48 <Gizmokid2005> that's what I'd go for... 21:42:54 <Gizmokid2005> I'll go with .2 for now I suppose 21:43:51 <flo> by the way, we have a bug about the latest-trunk link no longer working (https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=452) 21:43:54 <instantbot> Bug 452 maj, --, ---, raynaudquentin, NEW, latest-<version> links no longer working since the new buildbot configuration is used 21:45:37 <Gizmokid2005> ahh 21:45:38 <Gizmokid2005> k 21:46:04 <Gizmokid2005> should be able to be handled with some simple shell script for a symlink, no? 21:46:32 <flo> as the first comment (poorly) explains, there are several different cases 21:46:43 <flo> so it's probably something we need to include in the buildbot configuration 21:48:10 <Gizmokid2005> yep, pretty much agree there 21:56:40 <clokep> Hey flo, what's the easiest way to work with the xul/js files? Compile it myself with the flat chrome so I don't have to worry about zipping the jar's or...? 21:58:39 <flo> that's a good solution 21:58:58 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 21:59:02 <flo> I often work with compiled code too so it doesn't work for me 21:59:20 <clokep> Hahah. 21:59:41 <clokep> I was just thinking its an awful pain to have to rezip the jar everytime (and I often forget) and th ejar gets locked while the program is open I think... 21:59:57 <clokep> Oh, but the XUL/JS files are just copied to the binary directory, right? 22:00:14 <clokep> So if I make a bunch of changes I could copy the file back to the source directory and commit my change sin hg? 22:00:37 <flo> "th ejar gets locked while the program is open" oh, you are on windows? 22:01:00 <clokep> Yes. 22:01:05 <flo> some of the files are preprocessed, so it won't work for them 22:01:07 <clokep> I could do Linux in a VM, but eh. 22:02:05 <clokep> OK, just wanted to make sure they /all/ weren't. I'll be able to tell if one is pretty easily but just checking if there is a big block of code that I didn't do. :) 22:03:02 <flo> clokep: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/content/jar.mn the ones with an * are preprocessed 22:05:45 <clokep> flo: Ah, perfect. Thank you. :) 22:06:09 <flo> you are welcome :) 22:07:17 <clokep> Bookmarked. ;) 22:20:48 <clokep> Ciao for now. 22:20:49 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 22:22:27 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 22:55:51 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 23:30:58 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 23:35:05 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 23:40:25 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 23:49:59 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre)