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00:08:36 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 00:09:59 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 00:24:49 <-- hicham has quit (Connection reset by peer) 00:25:06 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 00:28:51 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: get satisfied! :: www.unitedservers.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 00:29:54 <-- skeledrew has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 00:44:55 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 00:46:19 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 01:20:36 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 01:25:20 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 01:32:23 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 01:35:30 --> rikki has joined #instantbird 01:39:41 <rikki> is there any plan / plugin for javascript in message text box to be evaled? 01:44:38 --> kaie2 has joined #instantbird 01:46:58 <-- kaie has quit (Ping timeout) 01:46:58 * kaie2 is now known as kaie 02:16:39 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 02:52:26 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 02:58:58 <-- Even1 has quit (Ping timeout) 04:54:32 --> tymerkaev_away has joined #instantbird 05:05:08 <-- skeledrew has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 05:13:47 <-- hicham has quit (Ping timeout) 05:32:34 <-- tymerkaev_away has quit (Ping timeout) 06:00:11 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 07:03:14 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 07:20:34 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 07:59:02 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 08:04:21 --> tymerkaev_away has joined #instantbird 08:06:03 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 08:06:45 <Mic> Morning 08:07:07 <Mic> rikki: no 08:07:39 <rikki> hmm looks like im going to have to get a compilation environment working then 08:08:27 <Mic> What's the goal with javascript in the text box? 08:08:42 <rikki> are you using mirc right now? 08:08:52 <rikki> its more the same type of effect 08:09:05 <Mic> no, I haven't used mIRC for a long time now. Instantbird only .. 08:09:12 <rikki> ahh 08:09:17 <Mic> What does it do? 08:09:28 <rikki> it allows expressions to be executed 08:09:58 <rikki> also to create alias other words functions and then call them later 08:10:30 <Mic> What can this scripting/these commands do? 08:10:36 <rikki> like if you had a complicated password algorithm to login to nickserv and you didn't want to type out a long password for each network 08:11:04 <rikki> for like mirc, u can do quite a huge range, irc bots for example 08:11:18 <rikki> grr even webservers 08:11:45 <rikki> and no im not a mirc fan, just using it as an example useage 08:11:58 <Mic> Have a look at the variety of extensions for Firefox .. 08:12:08 <Mic> .. you can do the same with Instantbird 08:12:11 <rikki> there is 1 that might work 08:12:23 <rikki> imacros i think its called 08:12:25 <Mic> It uses exactly the same framework 08:12:50 <rikki> yeah i saw that you can convert firefox extensions to instantbird 08:13:06 <rikki> but even then i would need to hook into the message text box 08:13:18 <Mic> That's not a big problem .. 08:13:31 <rikki> true 08:14:59 <rikki> just out of interest what IDE's do people compile instantbird with? 08:15:26 <Mic> I've no idea what IDE they use for the native part 08:15:43 <Mic> You can use any editor for the javascript/xul parts 08:15:50 <rikki> yeah ik that 08:16:02 <rikki> i had a read at the js files 08:16:10 <Mic> One with things like completion and highlighting is recommended ofcourse ;) 08:16:20 <rikki> yeah 08:16:38 <rikki> but ehh somehow i think i need to do this in my VM not windows 08:17:05 <rikki> o wait, just remember mingw does has make 08:17:29 <Mic> You don't need anything like that to develop an extension 08:17:34 <rikki> true 08:17:42 <rikki> but i do like to c how the thing works 08:17:44 <Mic> it makes packaging easier ofcourse but it's not necessary 08:18:07 <rikki> i have a really bad habit of trying to learn the whole app before doing anything with it 08:19:47 <Mic> If you like to compile IB yourself, I recommend doing it on Linux .. 08:19:57 <Mic> I've only done it a few times but it worked fine 08:20:04 --> Grunt has joined #instantbird 08:20:11 <rikki> yeah i use ubuntu on my VM 08:20:31 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 08:20:33 <Mic> You only need to follow the steps on the Wiki 08:20:52 <rikki> for the porting of the extension 08:21:16 <Mic> You might want to check out some extensions to see how they work 08:21:29 <rikki> yeah, i will before i get to work on this 08:21:30 <Mic> https://hg.instantbird.org/addons/repos/ 08:21:43 <Mic> There are some example addons which do interesting things 08:22:14 <Mic> There should be a section in an wiki article that summarizes what they are 08:22:38 <Mic> https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Extension#Examples 08:23:14 <rikki> ahh colorize that could be usefull 08:23:23 <Mic> back to work now .. 08:23:35 <rikki> and thank you 08:23:48 <Mic> .. you can still ask me questions but it might take some time to get an answer. 08:24:11 <rikki> it'll be a while, learning c atm 08:24:12 <Mic> flo is the main developer btw, I'm a mere contributor 08:25:08 <-- Grunt has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 08:25:13 --> Grunt has joined #instantbird 08:25:14 <-- Grunt has quit (Quit: Grunt) 08:25:21 --> Grunt has joined #instantbird 08:37:24 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 08:47:52 * tymerkaev_away is now known as tymerkaev 08:49:16 <-- Grunt has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 08:49:22 --> Grunt has joined #instantbird 08:54:42 <-- Grunt has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 08:54:48 --> Grunt has joined #instantbird 09:29:51 <-- Grunt has quit (Connection reset by peer) 10:03:39 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 10:35:27 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 10:52:01 <flo> rikki: you don't need C at all to create instantbird add-ons ;) 10:54:18 <rikki> i know 10:54:39 <rikki> i just love finding out how the app works 10:59:07 <rikki> damn just looked at imacros, closedsource 11:28:42 --> tymerkaev_away has joined #instantbird 11:29:09 * tymerkaev_away is now known as tymerkaev 11:39:46 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 11:57:31 <-- rikki has left #instantbird () 14:14:17 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 14:23:19 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 14:28:42 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 14:28:58 <deOmega> good morning 14:29:46 <tymerkaev> deOmega: hello 14:29:47 <deOmega> I was looking at about:config and it appears i can disable logging Chats (which i assume is multiuser chats), aand just keep regular im message logs? 14:29:58 <deOmega> is that right? 14:30:11 <deOmega> purple.logging.log_chats;true 14:30:20 <deOmega> purple.logging.log_ims;true 14:35:01 <Mic> Wait a minute 14:36:54 <Mic> yes, it seems so 14:37:13 <deOmega> that is really Good. 14:37:25 <deOmega> Maybe it should be added to the log options 14:38:34 <deOmega> under privacy and records 14:39:58 <deOmega> Mic: Thank u very much 14:40:22 <Mic> you're welcome 14:40:31 <deOmega> most of teh stuff in IRC rooms, i do not really care to log 14:40:39 <deOmega> actually, all of them 14:40:42 <clokep> Its all logged anyway. ;) 14:41:00 <deOmega> i meant in all the irc rooms 14:43:45 <Mic> clokep: I guess that's why he's looking for a way to turn it off ;) 14:44:10 <deOmega> Ah, I did not know that. Awesome 14:44:23 <deOmega> wait i misread :) 14:45:11 <deOmega> I thought u were sying flo is looking for a way to turn off IRC specifically 14:45:45 <deOmega> But u were referring to my desire :) 14:47:45 <clokep> I was referring to it being online. :) 14:49:17 <Mic> I thought u were saying .. 14:49:25 <Mic> seems I misunderstood you as well 14:52:43 <deOmega> i figure that irc and conferences are all consider multiuser.. and so if i turned off chats.. i would be turning off both.. which i would not want to do 14:52:44 <Mic> bye 14:53:09 <deOmega> so if the option is readily avaiable.. when doing a conference i would just enable it 14:53:16 <deOmega> Mic: bye 14:54:03 <Mic> hmm.. is there a Firefox extension that allows you to customize a menu with switches for settings? 14:54:08 <Mic> Could be a nice idea 14:54:29 <Mic> bye 14:55:19 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 14:55:41 <clokep> deOmega: Oh, I misunderstood, you want to disable /only/ IRC (or some other protocol)? 14:56:06 <deOmega> correct 15:49:09 <deOmega> haha.. was my answer specific enough? 15:49:25 <clokep> Yes? 15:49:46 <deOmega> ok 15:50:00 <deOmega> i was just making sure 15:52:37 <deOmega> such a relief to have that log bug fixed 15:53:58 <clokep> :) Any bug being squashed is good. 15:54:21 <deOmega> really is incredible how important technology is in our lives 15:55:58 <deOmega> I was so frustrated over that bug.. i almost went to another IM in the interim. 15:57:56 <deOmega> (Not out of disgust with IB, just the inability to work effectively) 15:58:29 <clokep> Yes, the woes of using nightly builds. 15:58:43 <deOmega> geez.. i did not even think about that 15:59:05 <deOmega> HA! All i needed to do was go to the offial release. 15:59:37 <deOmega> The simplest things escape us 16:01:20 <deOmega> I will remember that 16:09:44 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 16:37:33 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Client exited) 16:40:33 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 16:40:55 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 16:40:55 * ChanServ sets mode +o idechix 16:40:56 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 16:42:13 <-- idechix has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 16:42:24 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 16:42:24 * ChanServ sets mode +o idechix 16:42:49 <-- idechix has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 16:43:02 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 16:43:02 * ChanServ sets mode +o idechix 17:03:00 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 17:10:00 <-- idechix has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 17:10:18 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 17:11:28 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 17:11:29 * ChanServ sets mode +o idechix 17:12:37 <flo> deOmega: I'm not sure why you want to not log IRC channels. Assuming you will never need them, how does it hurt to have them anyway? (disk space is usually cheap, and you probably don't have privacy sensitive content in these specific logs) 17:17:00 <deOmega> I can give a long winded response, but i think teh best response is to say it is simply a personal preference in terms of controlling what one has on one's pc 17:19:08 <flo> would an expiration policy solve the issue for you? (like "chats are kept on the disk only 60 days" or something like that) 17:19:52 <deOmega> that would work for all of it actually 17:19:54 <deOmega> yes 17:20:36 <deOmega> you know.. when teh global search comes out :).... a lot of the keywords i will be searching for, will be also found in IRC forums 17:37:33 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 17:42:04 <clokep> I assume you'll be able to filter a search by account though, wouldn't that solve the issue? 17:42:50 <-- micahg has quit (Input/output error) 17:43:25 <deOmega> it should 17:44:09 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 18:02:00 <clokep> Bah I can't find a newsgroup post I found a few weeks ago that I need. :( 18:17:37 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 18:17:56 <Mic> Good evening :) 18:26:58 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 18:34:16 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 18:34:21 <clokep> Hey Mic. How're you? 18:34:30 <Mic> Was that a buddy pounce? 18:34:36 <Mic> I'm fine, thanks 18:35:14 <Mic> brb 18:35:16 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 18:35:23 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 18:36:47 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 18:36:54 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 18:37:01 <Mic> re 18:37:52 <Mic> shownick needed some css tweaking imo .. let's see if it's fine now ;) 18:39:23 <clokep> Haha, no it was not a buddy pounce. I'm just quick. :P 18:39:45 <Mic> Ah :) 18:40:16 * clokep is installing shownick 18:40:18 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 18:40:19 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 18:40:34 <clokep> Let's see how this works. ;) 18:40:43 <Mic> clokep: it works fine :P 18:41:19 <clokep> Haha I'm sure it works fine, but depends on whether I like it. :P 18:41:31 <Mic> I removed the border and the bold font, it was too obtrusive 18:41:54 <Mic> Reduced the border radius and made the names the same size as the surrounding text 18:42:03 <clokep> That's exactly what I was thinking it needed. :) What were your tweaks? 18:42:28 <clokep> The border/etc looks very out of place with the "Simple" theme. 18:42:58 <Mic> I'm using Bubbles at the moment .. the content preview looks out of place with the simple theme 18:43:14 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 18:44:12 <clokep> Bleh, switching to bubbles one sec. 18:44:16 <-- clokep has left #instantbird () 18:44:18 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 18:44:31 <clokep> Would be nice if I didn't have to quit and rejoin to change the theme. :) 18:45:01 * Mic won't try to bring up the bug number from memory now ;) 18:45:13 <clokep> I know its in there somewhere haha. 18:45:34 <clokep> I thought shownick highlighted everyone's nick not just when they're mentioned but also when they talked? 18:46:43 <clokep> Or does everyone already have separate colors even without the extension? 18:46:45 * clokep is confused. 18:48:00 <clokep> deOmega: Can you say something with my name in it? ;) 18:48:10 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 18:48:18 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 18:48:54 <deOmega> clokep: hey 18:49:09 <deOmega> what are you up to clokep 18:49:22 <deOmega> :) 18:49:33 <clokep> I'm trying out shownick and it doesn't seem to be doing too much. :P 18:49:45 <clokep> Or maybe its cause everyone who talks here seems to have the same color haha. 18:49:56 <Mic> Yes, the nick color issue ;) 18:50:08 <deOmega> it just highlights nicks in a sentence 18:50:09 <Mic> instantbot: hi 18:50:10 <instantbot> Mic 18:50:23 <clokep> Ah, that worked nicely. Good idea. :) 18:50:29 <Mic> sumobot: hi 18:50:30 <sumobot> salut Mic 18:50:49 <clokep> I find it weird that my color doesn't match the one given in the list though. ;) 18:51:51 <deOmega> clokep: the three of us are red in teh nicklist 18:51:58 <deOmega> and so we show up red 18:51:58 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 18:52:11 <clokep> Right, but I show up blue to myself? 18:52:45 <deOmega> hmmm 18:52:48 <deOmega> interestig haha 18:53:00 <clokep> Do you not show up blue for yourself? 18:53:04 <deOmega> no 18:53:07 <deOmega> i show up red 18:53:13 * clokep is switching back to Simple. 18:53:15 <-- clokep has left #instantbird () 18:53:20 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 18:53:34 <clokep> And now I think you all show up with the same color which is kind of silly. 18:53:37 <Mic> The own nickname is always blue .. but not because it's set as buddy color 18:53:44 <deOmega> i figure u are referriing to our color in nick list 18:53:45 <Mic> It's special-cased 18:54:05 <clokep> Hmm...I was wrong, they're just different shades of red. :) OK. 18:54:07 <Mic> shownick uses the "buddy color" instead, ie the one showing on the participants list 18:54:38 <clokep> Mic: Right, I'm' just saying it doesn't match, its confusing. :) 18:55:34 <deOmega> clokep: I would think that because we all use different mseeage style themes or whatever they are called 18:55:52 <clokep> Mic: Sorry, what were those CSS changes you made? 18:55:58 <deOmega> there woud be no consistent way of determining our nick color no? and so therefore it just uses the color in the nicklist? 18:56:08 <Mic> Let's see 18:56:08 <deOmega> the color generated in teh nicklist 18:57:32 <Mic> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/364 18:58:02 <clokep> Thanks. :) 18:59:53 <Mic> You're welcome 19:00:30 <clokep> Now if there was a way to do that without editing the files. :( 19:02:58 <clokep> Gonna restart again... 19:03:07 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 19:03:10 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 19:04:52 <clokep> Let's try this out: instantbot 19:05:13 <clokep> And I didn't rezip the jar. :( Ouch. 19:05:45 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 19:06:09 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 19:06:24 <clokep> Let's try that one instantbot! 19:06:27 <clokep> Much better. :) 19:06:39 <deOmega> can u posta screenshot of what you see? 19:06:59 <clokep> Mic: So if you have the moz-border radius without a border...does it just make it non-square? 19:07:04 <clokep> Yes, deOmega: one second. 19:07:07 <Mic> yes 19:08:43 <clokep> deOmega: Uploading... 19:10:08 <clokep> https://wiki.instantbird.org/File:Shownick.png 19:11:14 <deOmega> ah, i see 19:11:36 <deOmega> i see why u were wondering about the color of yoru nick in the message.. being blue 19:12:06 <deOmega> that is definitely yoru message style 19:12:10 <deOmega> as you know 19:12:24 <clokep> Yes, Just thinking it should match. :P 19:12:50 <deOmega> but on my theme it is white :( 19:13:00 <deOmega> my text is white 19:13:07 <deOmega> name 19:13:16 <clokep> I see. 19:13:39 <clokep> I also find it kind of strange that the color doesn't actually match the one given in the particpants list. :-\ 19:14:49 <deOmega> lol.. pink is the new Red 19:15:20 <clokep> :P 19:22:31 <clokep> I don't care what color it is, just find it weird they don't match. 19:29:41 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 19:29:54 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 19:30:34 <Mic> Ah, much better nick colors :) 19:31:01 <clokep> Mic? 19:31:03 <Mic> Applying the nick color algorithm backwards on the nick name 19:31:30 <Mic> So people with similiar letters in the beginning of the name won't get similiar colours anymore 19:31:47 <Mic> (most likely .. as same last letters are important now) 19:31:53 --> Even has joined #instantbird 19:31:54 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 19:32:58 <clokep> That makes sense. 19:33:17 <clokep> Right, but the color & first letter being the same is more likely ot be a mistake then color and last letter I think? 19:34:37 <Mic> I think if two names start with same letters then they shouldn't get similair colours too 19:34:44 <clokep> I agree. 19:35:02 <clokep> hash the name and then do it on the hash? 19:35:22 <clokep> Like do md5(nick) 19:35:36 <deOmega> i do not know aqbout all of that, but makes sense to me lol 19:36:35 <Mic> If two people have names that look similiar then it's not good to give them colors that also match 19:36:40 <clokep> Blah there's a bunch of stuff in here I don't like that showNick does. 19:37:13 <Mic> because then they can still be confused easily. If they have different colours then it's easier to tell who is who. 19:37:39 * Mic should have read deOmega's comment before posting. 19:38:00 <clokep> The stuff going on w/ the hue I think is making the colors look very different? 19:38:22 <Mic> You're familiar with the color system of hsl? 19:39:57 <clokep> Not really. :-\ 19:40:01 <clokep> I really only know RGB. 19:40:13 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 19:40:21 <clokep> (Or CMYK, but that's really the same thing. :)) 19:40:33 <Mic> ok, hue is the 'color' 19:41:18 <Mic> Or just look through this here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSL_and_HSV 19:41:27 <clokep> I think its the "lightness" part I don't like. 19:41:31 <clokep> Yes, I'm on that. :) 19:41:46 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 19:42:06 <clokep> Like why are there different "lightness" used for different colors? 19:48:56 <clokep> Hmmm....I'll see. 19:52:31 * Mic just made the download manager popup in Ib 19:52:53 <Mic> Unexpectedly :D 19:53:25 <clokep> Hahahah, how'd you manage that? 19:54:36 <Mic> Trying to add "Save Conversation As..." 19:55:06 <Mic> Well, it saved something .. unfortunately it was "instantbird.xul" instead of the conversation 19:55:52 <clokep> :( 20:00:40 <clokep> Mic: Do you know where the message themes are in the source? 20:01:20 <clokep> I found it. :) 20:01:23 <clokep> Hidden under themes. 20:01:25 <Mic> imThemes? 20:01:36 <Mic> oh, the actual themes, not the code managing them? 20:03:48 <clokep> Yes. 20:05:49 <Mic> Works now :) 20:06:02 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 20:06:41 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 20:06:59 * clokep wonders what is working for Mic. 20:07:09 <Mic> "Save conversation as..." 20:07:26 <clokep> Ohhhh, sorry. 20:07:31 <clokep> My mind is scattered. :) That's sweet. 20:07:34 <clokep> I believe there's a bug about that? 20:08:34 <Mic> No, I think it is an extension idea 20:09:19 <Mic> "Export as HTML" in https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:extension_wish_list#In-chat 20:10:50 <clokep> I see. :) 20:11:01 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 20:11:16 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 20:11:33 <clokep> Let's see how this one works instantbot 20:12:26 <clokep> Oops. 20:12:31 <clokep> I added an extra % sign. 20:12:44 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 20:12:45 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 20:12:52 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 20:13:00 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 20:13:04 <clokep> Hey instantbot 20:13:05 <instantbot> bonjour clokep 20:13:35 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 20:14:01 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 20:15:03 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 20:15:15 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 20:15:28 <clokep> Hey instantbot. :) 20:16:01 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 20:16:13 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 20:18:51 <clokep> Do you know where the actual coloring of the names is calculated? :) 20:19:53 <clokep> Eh I found it. 20:19:58 <clokep> Needed the proper brightness. :) 20:21:55 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 20:22:09 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 20:22:21 <clokep> Hi instantbot 20:22:22 <instantbot> g'day mate 20:22:25 <clokep> Perfect. :) 20:22:54 <deOmega> i want to see perfection 20:22:59 <deOmega> clokep: hi 20:23:17 <clokep> deOmega, OK its for the "Simple" theme though. 20:23:44 <deOmega> that is ok. Just curious as to your thought process if it is ot a hassle 20:24:24 <clokep> My thought process of what? :P 20:24:34 <deOmega> on how it ought to work 20:25:03 <Mic> THe colors need some tweaking ... you two have light green and pink at the moment. It goes extremely well with each other but is not exactly my colors :P 20:25:19 <-- skeledrew has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 20:25:21 <deOmega> hahaha 20:25:37 <deOmega> I am truly laughing outloud 20:25:56 <clokep> https://wiki.instantbird.org/File:Shownick.png 20:26:01 <deOmega> BUt i would think though that the color d should not matter so much as long as what you want it to do has worked out 20:26:29 <clokep> Message themes should be able to override the generate hue algorithm. ;) 20:26:47 <clokep> deOmega: That link is how mine looks now. 20:28:24 <deOmega> ah, it does show a difference indeed 20:29:00 <deOmega> I woud bet flo will be happy 20:29:07 <clokep> I like that the name in the message is now the same color as the original name. I might actually remove the background too. 20:30:04 <deOmega> I think he did it rather quickly too, so i feel confident hewill be happy about the tweak. 20:31:15 <clokep> Mic: Where is the buddy color algorithm? Is it part of libpurple or Instantbird code? 20:31:25 <Mic> conversation.xml iirc 20:31:59 <Mic> Yes. Method "addBuddy" 20:32:51 <clokep> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/content/conversation.xml#777 ? 20:33:01 <Mic> Exactly 20:33:17 <clokep> Interesting. 20:36:00 <clokep> I feel like it should actualy be part of the buddy code, but that's all libpurple stuff i believe. 20:39:36 <DGMurdockIII> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOHkRk00iI8 20:42:05 <Mic> argh ... I wondered where the music came from. 20:42:09 <Mic> Content Preview + Autoplay 20:44:23 <clokep> Hahaha. 20:45:14 <Mic> I should disable Autoplay at least .. it might end embarassing if someone sends a wrong video 20:45:24 <clokep> Yes, I think so. 20:53:40 <flo> the reason why the color is similar for nicks that start with the same letters is an attempt to show the same color when someone uses variations of the same nick 20:56:54 <clokep> Actually looking at y participants list the colors vary a lot. I think its just unlikely that most of the people who talk in here end up with a reddish hue. :( 20:58:28 <Mic> well, the 'rainbow'-participantslist doesn't look so bad after all. The problems are only in the conversation content ;) 20:58:59 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 20:59:56 <clokep> Right, but the names really aren't that close. :) 21:00:32 <flo> there's probably some bad luck somewhere ;) 21:00:44 <clokep> flo: Any Feedback on bug 207? 21:00:47 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=207 min, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, URLs should not contain Smileys 21:01:38 <Mic> clokep: that's the thing.. you never know if "no comment yet" is a good or a bad sign ;) 21:02:16 <flo> the last time we discussed this we got lost 21:03:43 <clokep> OK, wasn't sure if you had looked at it and there was something you didn't like about the way the patch was done or if you still weren't sure which way to go about fixing it. 21:04:51 <clokep> Mic: Exactly what the issue is. :-D 21:05:29 <flo> actually, I'm not sure of what we are trying to fix 21:11:03 <clokep> Like not sure what the bug is asking about or...? 21:11:12 <Mic> ouch .. 21:11:20 * Mic is going to file bugs now. 21:11:43 <flo> each new patch/approach for this issue seems to have a new definition of what it means to "work" ;) 21:12:36 <clokep> Hahah. True. 21:12:59 <clokep> Mine simply separates it by "words" and checks if it seems to be a URL, if it is then it doesn't apply the smile code, otherwise it does. 21:13:03 <flo> I'm trying to read the patch and I don't really understand it either 21:13:25 <clokep> Do you want me to add comments or explain it here? 21:13:36 <clokep> Or forget about it since it should be done a different way. :) 21:13:49 <flo> no, that's enough (though having that in a comment before I started reading would have helped a lot) 21:14:08 <flo> in which case is it useful to separate words? 21:15:00 <flo> if you are dealing with the case of <a href="URL">URL</a> which is the only one where the "expected behavior" seems really clear, isn't the whole URL a single word? 21:15:33 <clokep> I think I use a "word" as anything separated by whitespace. 21:15:44 <clokep> So in that case it would have href="URL">URL</a> as a word. :-\ 21:15:58 <flo> no, you only have "URL" in the textnode 21:16:10 <flo> the code is only applied on DOM Text nodes 21:16:19 <clokep> Oh, right. 21:16:56 <flo> so if this is really the case you want to fix, you can simplify the code a lot 21:16:56 <clokep> In that case if it looks like a URL it /still/ won't link it. 21:17:27 <flo> if the whole string looks like a URL, you can avoid the loop completely and return early 21:17:37 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 480 filed by leeraccount@yahoo.de. 21:17:39 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=480 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Reconnection timer not stopped when deleting account 21:17:55 <flo> and you can be pretty sure there won't be any URL in the middle of the string, because that would be a different text node 21:17:59 <flo> (unless there's something I'm missing) 21:18:43 <DGMurdockIII> http://technologytosoftware.com/css-javascript-cheat-sheet.html 21:19:08 <clokep> There's something you're missing flo. 21:19:33 <clokep> Let me make sure I'm talking about the same thing. :) 21:20:40 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 481 filed by leeraccount@yahoo.de. 21:20:43 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=481 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, "Connect account now" working in "Offline Mode" 21:21:53 <clokep> OK so it loops over each Node seperating it into chunks that might contain a smile. 21:22:06 <flo> I guess I'll have to rewrite the code around the offline mode. It's mostly broken since the js-proto branch is merged. 21:22:22 <flo> I worked around some of the issues quickly recently, but the code is still messy 21:22:36 <clokep> Then it checks if that chunk matches a URL, if it does it breaks the loops, otherwise it'll go through the linking code. 21:23:02 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 482 filed by leeraccount@yahoo.de. 21:23:03 <flo> wait, we create the links after we add the emoticons? 21:23:04 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=482 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, "Connect now" from the "Autoconnection disabled" abr doesn't obey "Offline mode" 21:23:39 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: get satisfied! :: www.unitedservers.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 21:23:48 <clokep> flo: I don't do anything with creating links. I just check if it /looks/ like a link. 21:24:57 <Mic> flo: we add links before smilies 21:25:14 <flo> Mic: :) 21:25:41 <Mic> https://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/file/8315f77af576/instantbird/content/convbrowser.xml#l289 21:26:32 <Mic> Linkification comes first, textModifiers are applied during cleanupImMarkup iirc 21:27:20 <Mic> hehe, I should have asked before filing these bugs as it seems 21:27:50 <flo> bugs are fine ;) 21:28:11 <flo> and 480 is unrelated (and I wasn't aware of the issue) 21:28:18 <flo> probably easy to fix (I hope at least) 21:28:45 <flo> I would think it's not the reconnect timer (it's in the C++ code), but only the timer to refresh the display of the remaining time 21:28:46 <instantbot> c++ is evil 21:28:47 * sumobot mumbles something about c++ being evil 21:29:16 * flo mumbles something about sumobot being useless here 21:29:28 <Mic> I'm glad they don't respond to each others messages 21:29:51 <flo> one of them would quickly get banned ;) 21:30:20 <clokep> That would be nice. :) 21:30:40 <flo> that's what happened to firebot ;) 21:30:52 <clokep> flo: I think I might be having a coming back from standby issue again. (Like what you fixed earlier.) 21:32:31 <Mic> Is "Instantbird default theme should have a preview image" bug-worthy? 21:33:26 <flo> only if this preview image still exists with the new add-on manager 21:33:29 <clokep> Mic what does your comment in bug 475 mean? (o_O) 21:33:31 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=475 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Download URL leads to Mac version on System Requirements page 21:34:30 <flo> ah, I should push the fix for that! 21:34:32 <Mic> oh.. I just wanted to say that I'm not sure if I'm not confirming the bug a second time 21:35:06 <clokep> I had confirmed it a while ago? But OK. :) 21:35:20 <Mic> oh, was it you? I'm fine with that 21:35:31 <clokep> Yes. 21:35:53 <clokep> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/187588/ is great. :) 21:36:29 <clokep> Although I modified it to work with BIO. 21:37:18 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 483 filed by leeraccount@yahoo.de. 21:37:20 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=483 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Instantbird default theme has no preview image 21:40:54 <Mic> flo: make sure to check if reconnection obeys the offline mode. Right now it doesn't. 21:42:54 <tymerkaev> Mic: ping 21:44:13 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 475 to FIXED. 21:44:15 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=475 min, --, ---, florian, RESO FIXED, Download URL leads to Mac version on System Requirements page 21:44:48 <tymerkaev> clokep: ping 21:44:55 <flo> tymerkaev: why do you ping people who have talked less than 5 minutes before? You can go ahed and ask your question 21:47:17 <tymerkaev> flo: I just don't want to ask people first and then wait half of hour for answer. You're my teacher with that. ;) 21:47:36 <clokep> But usually if someone has talked reently they're either here or actively looking at the chat. 21:47:45 <flo> I won't answer anymore "ping" requests that don't have a question before ;) 21:48:47 <flo> very often someone else can answer the question, that's also why we discuss things in public :) 21:48:49 <Mic> well, the ping can include an actual question 21:48:51 <tymerkaev> clokep: looks like you're interesting in tb bug 569400 too, right? 21:49:27 <clokep> tymerkaev Yes, considering I posted on it today. :P 21:49:51 <tymerkaev> Mic: thank you for report that bug. Let me fix it? 21:50:29 <Mic> Sure, but which one are you talking about? 21:50:38 <tymerkaev> bug 483 21:50:42 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=483 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Instantbird default theme has no preview image 21:50:53 <Mic> I guess I currently have reported about one third of all open bugs ;) 21:51:01 <Mic> ah, ok 21:51:05 <tymerkaev> instantbot: ping 21:51:06 <instantbot> tymerkaev: pong 21:51:09 <tymerkaev> instantbot: pong 21:51:12 <instantbot> tymerkaev: I haven't ping you! 21:51:31 * tymerkaev thinks that works as well 21:51:42 * flo has 26 items tagged "bug to file" in his todo list 21:52:07 <tymerkaev> Mic: set me as assignee? 21:52:59 <Mic> If you like 21:53:48 <tymerkaev> Mic, flo: how it must looks? 21:54:25 <Mic> jsut give it a try 21:54:58 <flo> no idea, that's the kind of thing I would assign to idechix if I needed to find an assignee to get if fixed asap. 21:55:17 <flo> you may want to ask him for feedback once you have some proposals by the way :) 21:55:35 <flo> *get it fixed 21:57:05 <tymerkaev> idechix: could you help me? 21:58:35 <idechix> for what ? 21:58:47 <tymerkaev> bug 483 21:58:49 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=483 min, --, ---, tymerkaev, NEW, Instantbird default theme has no preview image 21:59:11 <clokep> Shownicks makes my conversations so much more colorful. :) 21:59:47 <tymerkaev> Mic: please use small 't' for my nick. 22:00:35 <Mic> I'll try to remember for next time 22:00:38 <tymerkaev> idechix: ? 22:01:01 <Mic> clokep: I'm not sure if it's not too colorful (in combination with the bubbles theme) 22:01:19 <clokep> Mic: I don't use the Bubbles theme. :) 22:01:24 <flo> Mic: it's not! :) 22:01:41 <flo> it really helps me understand what's happening 22:01:50 <flo> especially in channels where I'm paying very little attention 22:02:27 <idechix> tymerkaev: hmmm... I don't know what to do for that 22:03:00 <tymerkaev> hmm, I'll try to show something 22:04:42 <Mic> ah :) What about such a thing like the IRCParser, only live, on a canvas? 22:04:56 <Mic> Who's talking how much with whom? 22:05:22 <clokep> What's IRCParser? No idea what you mean by that. 22:05:27 <-- idechix has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 22:05:33 <Mic> I'm talking to flo atm 22:05:39 <flo> too bad it doesn't know who is saying something interesting ;) 22:06:53 <Mic> clokep: http://www.bezut.info/c5/Progz/1 22:06:59 <Mic> Look for IRCParser 22:08:32 <clokep> Interesting. 22:10:23 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 22:10:31 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 22:10:42 <clokep> flo: Show Nick doesn't highlight join messages? 22:10:46 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 22:11:05 <Mic> clokep: the buddy is not in the list yet at this moment 22:11:12 <flo> clokep: no, they are displayed before the add-user signal is fired :-/ 22:11:29 <clokep> Can I consider that a bug? ;) 22:11:39 <clokep> Ah dinner time. 22:12:16 * clokep is now known as clokep_away 22:15:30 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 22:15:34 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 22:22:44 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 22:27:40 <Mic> flo: at which place is the color for own messages set/special cased? 22:27:52 <deOmega> good night all 22:27:59 <Mic> Good night 22:28:04 <-- deOmega has left #instantbird () 22:30:45 <flo> Mic: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/content/conversation.xml#232 22:32:06 <-- skeledrew has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 22:32:54 <Mic> So aMsg.color defaults to blue and gets replaced for incoming messages from others? 22:33:08 <flo> it defaults to empty 22:33:13 <flo> the blue is part of the message theme 22:33:59 <Mic> Ah, ok 22:35:07 <Mic> Well, on the themes I use it was always a shade of blue ;) 22:36:16 <Mic> Good night now 22:36:36 <flo> good night :) 22:46:42 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 22:52:16 <-- clokep_away has quit (Ping timeout) 23:19:44 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Connection reset by peer) 23:48:17 --> hicham has joined #instantbird