#instantbird log on 08 09 2010

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06:51:30 <beigbeider> Доброе время суток / Hello
06:55:10 <tymerkaev> beigbeider: English only
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06:57:13 <beigbeider> Ok.
06:58:47 <Mic> Hello
06:59:02 <beigbeider> Hello
07:00:04 * tymerkaev laughs
07:01:14 <beigbeider> =)
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09:25:35 <Mic> hi
09:27:02 <tymerkaev> hello mic
09:27:07 <tymerkaev> Mic*
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10:51:52 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 469 filed by leeraccount@yahoo.de.
10:51:54 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=469 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Doesn't update conversation window title on nick change
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12:37:33 <Mic> hi
12:37:48 <Mic> clokep_work: do you know if there's something like a zip-writer in the framework?
12:38:03 <Mic> I found nsIZipReader but that doesn't really help with creating them ;)
12:39:37 <clokep_work> Mic: I have no idea. I've come across a lot of extensions that seem to include 7z though, which would make me feel like no. :(
12:39:50 <Mic> it's ok
12:39:58 <Mic> I just found something on mozilla-central
12:40:04 <clokep_work> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/nsIZipWriter ?
12:40:14 <clokep_work> That sounds promising
12:40:39 <Mic> I was looking for exactly this (just found it in mxr as well)
12:41:03 <Mic> it didn't appear in the list of interfaces
12:41:05 <Mic> :(
12:41:10 <clokep_work> Its good when you say "nsIZipReader" exists and I google "nsIZipWriter" and it finds it. :)
12:41:16 <clokep_work> Oh, that's confusing.
12:41:26 <Mic> MDC is a little incomplete
12:41:40 <clokep_work> Yeah.
12:42:01 <Mic> well, it's a lot of information
12:42:06 <Mic> Such things happen ..
12:43:12 <Mic> Let's see
12:43:54 <Mic> The plan is to create an "emotion theme creator" which needs to package the extension at one point:)
12:44:12 <clokep_work> Ah, I see.
12:44:18 <Mic> I'd really like to work on the content viewer but I need to talk to flo first
12:44:21 <clokep_work> That is "emotion" and not "emoticon", right?
12:44:31 <Mic> "Emoticon"
12:44:39 <skeledrew> interesting...
12:44:43 <skeledrew> lol
12:45:59 <clokep_work> But JSON is so easy, make them do it by hand. ;)
12:46:00 <Mic> What would you have expected from an "emotion theme creator" though? 
12:46:20 <Mic> This thing is supposed to be for .. 
12:46:26 <Mic> .. b00ns. (scnr)
12:47:12 <Mic> Set a theme name, add the author, drag'n drop the image files and enter the text codes.
12:47:13 <clokep_work> Mic: Uhh...something that takes your emotions and makes a theme based on it, so if you're depressed it'llg ive you grey, drab colors and further more depress you, if you're happy, nice yellows and blues, etc.
12:47:16 * clokep_work enjoys positive feedback.
12:47:28 <clokep_work> That's pretty awesome.
12:47:37 <clokep_work> But you still need to export the theme and use it?
12:47:51 <skeledrew> meh
12:47:58 <skeledrew> clokep_work: you're crazy
12:48:23 <skeledrew> Mic: could you add an enable/disable button to buddy status? just a toggle to short circuit displaying the notifier
12:48:26 <skeledrew> i find it annoying when i'm doing stuff like playing games...
12:48:37 <Mic> Most likely .. maybe it's possible to start installation of extensions from within an extension
12:49:48 <Mic> skeledrew: hmm, might be an idea. For the meantime you can use the show status changes and signon/off checkboxes
12:49:50 <clokep_work> Mic: I'm pretty sure you can do that? If not, just drop it into ProfD/extensions. :)
12:50:19 <clokep_work> And I meant more of letting people drag & drop on it and just having it apply immediately? But I guess that can't be done w/ chrome cache.
12:50:19 <skeledrew> k
12:50:43 <Mic> The "show status changes" checkbox enables/disables all notifications listed below
12:50:52 <Mic> (they'll be greyed out, you'll notice)
12:51:02 <skeledrew> but yeah. it would be easier to put it under tools...
12:51:55 <Mic> ok, I'll keep that in mind
12:52:05 <skeledrew> :)
12:53:14 <clokep_work> Just put some toggle buttons on the bottom of the blist or osmething to enable/disable certain notifications. ;)
12:53:16 <skeledrew> it could prob be done in 3 lines of code. 1 in XUL to insert the entry, and 2 in JS to stare the state and do the toggle...
12:53:38 <skeledrew> *save the state
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12:56:49 <Mic> I think this emoticon thing could be nice work
12:57:02 <skeledrew> Mic: yep :)
12:57:18 <Mic> Some parts might even be reusable for a message theme packager or so (the part that creates the chomr/install files)
12:58:01 <skeledrew> hmm...
12:58:34 <skeledrew> could use an image resizer too
12:58:56 <Mic> what?
12:59:07 <skeledrew> easily make all the icons uniform
12:59:16 <Mic> I'm not sure ..
12:59:38 <skeledrew> though it's not a good idea to include binaries
12:59:58 <Mic> Other tools might be more suitable for image editing
13:00:53 <Mic> I rather think of putting a link to a sourceforge project that converts animated gifs to animated pngs (even though they're bugged a bit at the moment)
13:01:13 <skeledrew> k
13:01:19 <Mic> clokep_work: btw "focus" doesn't fire on your tab selection problem
13:01:40 <Mic> if it would then the input textbox would take focus on selection of the tab
13:01:49 <clokep_work> Mic: Isn't APNG not supported in Gecko?
13:01:52 <Mic> Have a look at ...
13:02:06 <Mic> ... focus() in conversation.xml ?
13:02:10 <clokep_work> Mic: You mean the bug about not marking the tab as read?
13:02:15 <Mic> exactly
13:02:58 <Mic> it should maybe mark it as read without actually focusing it (as it would take the focus from the tab bar and therefore only allow to go one tab a time)
13:03:30 * clokep_work just directly typed the URL to conversation.xml on lxr. :(
13:03:31 <Mic> The throbber is an apng afaik
13:04:02 <Mic> The Google Emoticons on AIO as well (idechix: once again: they rock;)
13:05:49 <Mic> Another example: https://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/raw-file/9278a969d78c/instantbird/themes/typing-16.png
13:05:54 <clokep_work> Right, well only the last 3 lines of focus need to get executed I believe, not the "this.editor.focus()" part, but Do you know why focus is executing? Is it just the event handler.
13:06:14 <clokep_work> Mic: OK, I believe you. :P
13:07:37 <Mic> There's an apng creator on AMO afaik .. that means: I could generate status change icons as apngs for the buddy status extension on the fly ;)
13:09:06 <clokep_work> :) Do it.
13:10:02 <Mic> That would be too much ;)
13:10:14 <Mic> I'm not sure if Growl would support it either
13:11:23 <tymerkaev> Mic: ping
13:13:51 <Mic> What's up?
13:14:06 <Mic> (you can just ping and ask)
13:14:33 <tymerkaev> Mic: how to create animated png?
13:14:43 <tymerkaev> not .apng
13:15:52 <Mic> apngs are animated pngs
13:16:22 <Mic> They are also called .png (and just notstandard compliant;)
13:16:38 <Mic> Normal png viewers will only display the first frame
13:16:53 <Mic> (and maybe break the animation when saving the file again)
13:16:56 <Mic> https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/5519/
13:17:08 <Mic> https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/9820/
13:17:19 <Mic> I've tried the first, the second also appeared on the search
13:17:27 <Mic> I know nothing about the latter
13:17:44 <tymerkaev> I was surprised when see typing.png NOT IN GIF format
13:18:32 <Mic> bbl
13:27:01 <clokep_work> Hmm...I might have been thinking of MNG instead of APNG. :)
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14:39:15 <Mic|working> ah :)
14:39:49 <Mic|working> Finally this annoying group is leaving the computer lab :D
14:41:41 <skeledrew> lol
14:41:43 <skeledrew> hmm
14:41:58 <skeledrew> IB could use a universal gaming mode
14:42:14 <clokep_work> Or maybe a "quiet" mode?
14:42:26 <skeledrew> something that prevents any windows/notifications when toggled
14:42:30 <clokep_work> A "leave me alone, I'm doing something improtant mode". :P
14:42:45 <skeledrew> nah. not really :)
14:42:56 <skeledrew> i don't mind the sound events
14:43:03 <clokep_work> But yes, I've had need for it a couple of times when doing work or watching a video.
14:43:14 <clokep_work> "quiet" was referring to sound specifically.
14:43:20 <Mic|working> Someone asked for a boss-key once
14:43:27 <skeledrew> but the popups can be a real full screen game/movie jarrer
14:43:29 <Mic|working> I think it's on the extensions wishlist
14:43:37 <skeledrew> yeah
14:43:39 <skeledrew> that too
14:43:58 <skeledrew> but that should be global IMO
14:44:39 <skeledrew> clokep_work: i guess you can toggle them both :)
14:45:10 <Mic|working> hmm, a "quiet mode" that anything would have to respect would be good idea imo
14:45:12 <clokep_work> Oops, that was supposed to say "quiet" was*n't* referring to sound specifically.
14:45:30 <skeledrew> maybe flash the scroll/caps/num lock light :)
14:45:33 <Mic|working> something like the privacy mode that extensions have to take into account (as flawed as it might be atm)
14:45:44 <clokep_work> I meant that it should kill the taskbar notifications, sounds, (buddy notifications), maybe other things.
14:46:05 <skeledrew> all user pref...
14:46:15 <skeledrew> but i think this has to be core though
14:46:23 <skeledrew> not via addon
14:46:49 <clokep_work> It doesn't "have" to be. It'd be nice. ;)
14:47:13 <skeledrew> no. i meant if it were to be implemented
14:48:39 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 470 filed by leeraccount@yahoo.de.
14:48:41 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Quiet mode
14:48:53 <skeledrew> lol
14:48:56 <skeledrew> that was fast
14:49:07 <clokep_work> skeledrew: It could be implemented as an extension.
14:49:21 <skeledrew> that much power?
14:49:33 <Mic|working> clokep: i'm not sure
14:49:39 <skeledrew> we're talking universal access here...
14:49:44 <clokep_work> So?
14:50:09 <Mic|working> You can't really prevent extensions from showing alert windows, opening other windows or such in general
14:50:33 <skeledrew> can addons dig into JSM and XBL?
14:50:55 <clokep_work> Can you even actually do that in the core Mic?
14:50:56 <skeledrew> Mic|working: hence why it should be done at the core...
14:50:57 <clokep_work> skeledrew: Yes.
14:51:10 <clokep_work> I agree it /should/ be, just saying it doesn't /have/ to be. :)
14:51:20 <skeledrew> hmm
14:51:22 <skeledrew> k then
14:51:33 <Mic|working> The solution I suggest was the following: have a quiet mode and extensions _have_ to obey it 
14:51:57 <clokep_work> Ah, I didn't see you wanted to /force/ them to obey it, wouldn't the require an extra API kind of?
14:52:11 <skeledrew> and no other addon should be able to override it...
14:52:26 <skeledrew> clokep_work: core...
14:52:30 <skeledrew> :)
14:52:30 <Mic|working> I think extensions that don't obey the Private Browsing mode in Firefox won't get granted review for going public
14:52:42 <skeledrew> k
14:52:58 <Mic|working> it's not even allowed to ask users to opt out of this restriction
14:52:58 <skeledrew> and this would be one other thing that sets IB apart from the rest ;)
14:53:10 <Mic|working> iirc
14:53:46 <clokep_work> skeledrew: The API could be added via an extension still. ;) An extension could also just override all the necessary functions nad have them check a pref if in quiet mode or not. It'd just be frustrating.
14:54:04 <skeledrew> o.O
14:54:06 <clokep_work> Mic|working: So are you suggesting technically forcing them to maintain it, or just when being reviewed force it?
14:54:24 <skeledrew> clokep_work: are you trying to make things easier for flo?
14:54:28 <skeledrew> O.o
14:54:30 <clokep_work> No.
14:54:52 <skeledrew> hmm
14:55:10 <Mic|working> ok, it's said as follows on MDC/MDN: "Note: It is not acceptable for an extension that records things like URLs or domains visited to even offer the option to opt out of private browsing mode."
14:55:14 <clokep_work> As in, not allow an extension to make pop ups at all in quiet mode, or are you saying that they wont' be granted review unless they first check for if in quiet-mode, then don't make apop up.
14:55:29 <clokep_work> Hm, OK.
14:55:44 <Mic|working> The latter
14:56:05 <Mic|working> They need to check if in quiet mode before trying to show a popup
14:57:08 <clokep_work> :) OK.
14:59:35 <clokep_work> I like it.
15:00:04 <skeledrew> Mic|working: or playing a sound :)
15:01:01 <skeledrew> well it all could be user pref: windows, notifications and/or sounds
15:03:22 <skeledrew> i want to setup a TTS/STT combo to work with IB sometime soon...
15:03:27 <Mic|working> I thought we were talking about a do-not-disturb mode
15:04:03 <skeledrew> yeah. but people have diff levels of disturbances
15:04:35 <skeledrew> gamers vs office workers vs ...
15:07:29 <Mic|working> clokep: how are buddy icons working?
15:07:57 <clokep_work> Mic: I haven't had a chance to try them with a "real" account with buddy icons.
15:07:59 <Mic|working> I could image it's problematic just because they're not designed to be displayed in 16x16px (max)
15:08:01 * clokep_work was mostly offline this weekend.
15:08:17 <clokep_work> They'll get bigger on mouseover.
15:08:31 <Mic|working> So it just doesn't look as good as favicons which were designed to be displayed at this size
15:09:15 <Mic|working> Maybe let users chose to zoom in a part or select a part of the buddy image as icon?
15:09:31 <Mic|working> Like they do for the thumbnail image on Facebook?
15:09:53 <Mic|working> You can do such things easily using a canvas
15:09:56 <clokep_work> Hmmm...maybe. I'm definitely not at that stage yet though.
15:10:03 <Mic|working> *html:canvas element
15:10:05 <clokep_work> You're canvas obsessed now. :)
15:10:12 <clokep_work> But, yeah...that's a good idea.
15:10:43 <Mic|working> No, I'm not like these people who user canvas and images to store audio data
15:11:06 <Mic|working> *use
15:11:35 <Mic|working> They're doing audio processing in browser, using javascript FFT, audio data loaded from images and such crazy stuff
15:12:56 <clokep_work> Kind of neat though.
15:14:29 <Mic|working> gtg
15:14:30 <Mic|working> bye
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16:36:42 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 
16:37:47 <flo> hello :)
16:38:04 <clokep_work> Hey flo, how're you?
16:38:13 <flo> tired
16:39:19 <flo> I spent most of the week cleaning up the terrible mess in the attic of my grand parent's house.
16:39:34 <flo> it's now possible to walk on the floor instead of on random stuff :)
16:41:06 <flo> clokep_work: and you, how are you? :)
16:41:23 <clokep_work> Soundsl ike a change of pace at least! And you always find interesting stuff in attics.
16:41:41 <clokep_work> I'm OK. Tired as well, commuted almost 2 hours into work today. :(
16:42:13 * clokep_work is currently playing with ctypes on Fx4 nightly.
16:43:09 <flo> have fun :)
16:45:12 <clokep_work> Yes, if banging your head against a wall is fun. :-D
16:45:16 <Grunt> hello flo , could you give me the Instantbird translating environment, please?
16:45:21 <clokep_work> We filed lots of bugs for you. :P And by "we" I mostly mean Mic.
16:45:48 <flo> I was reading my emails from the android phone, so I know about most of them
16:46:14 <flo> Grunt: have you read https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Translation already? :)
16:46:27 <Grunt> yes 
16:46:40 <flo> the translation FAQ too?
16:47:01 <Grunt> yes
16:47:31 <flo> so what do you want me to give you exactly?
16:48:17 <Grunt> In this case, contact us on IRC or by email for us to setup an environment allowing you to translate
16:48:50 <Grunt> it said that i must contact you for somekinda environment , or i misunderstood
16:50:23 <flo> the FAQ also said which information I need from you :)
16:50:44 <Grunt> yes 
16:51:07 <flo> that sentence should be changed to use the word "repository" instead of "environment"
16:51:10 <Grunt> will i give them here?
16:51:43 <flo> here or by email if you prefer.
16:51:54 <Grunt> oh, i completley misunderstood the whole wiki , now i get it... 
16:52:01 <Grunt> first name = Sven
16:52:14 <Grunt> last name = Vainküla
16:52:16 <flo> I'll email you the password so it stays private, but every thing else will be public anyway ;)
16:52:29 <Grunt> email = Knossos.xd@hotmail.com
16:52:41 <Grunt> IRC nick. = Grunt
16:52:51 <Grunt> lang. code = et-EE
16:53:21 <Grunt> and i agree with putting my email public
16:53:46 <flo> great :)
16:54:20 <flo> is changing "environment" to "repository" in the wiki page enough to avoid future similar misunderstandings?
16:55:22 <Grunt> i think that only i was stupid enough to misunderstand ...
16:55:25 <Grunt> am*
16:55:44 <flo> I don't think so :)
16:56:13 <Grunt> could you tell me how many strings are in the Instantbird if you know?
16:59:55 <flo> I don't really know, but I guess "a few hundreds or about a thousand"
17:00:13 <Grunt> wow , then its gonna take some time :)
17:01:20 <flo> other translators may be more helpful to answer this question ;)
17:04:06 <Grunt> how old are you flo , if i may ask?
17:04:18 <flo> 23 years old
17:05:28 <Grunt> wow
17:10:54 <Grunt> can(or may) i add some estonian search providers for the translation?
17:11:27 <flo> you mean localize the search plugins? sure!
17:11:55 <Grunt> like change google.com to google.ee etc
17:12:28 <flo> yes :)
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17:31:45 <flo> Grunt: I think the repository is ready. I've just emailed you a password
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17:34:03 <Grunt> thanks
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17:35:59 <Mic> evening
17:37:23 <Grunt> hello
17:38:51 <clokep_work> Hey Mic.
17:40:32 <Mic> Ah, we're getting an estonian translation now as well? Nice :)
17:47:13 <flo> hey Mic :)
17:47:28 <Mic> Is there a way to limit the number of results in Bugzilla (in a way that can actually be stored in a search)?
17:47:34 <Mic> Hi flo, nice to see you back
17:48:10 <Mic> &limit= limits the number of results but a stored search doesn't honor this number later
17:48:50 <flo> I don't know. I've never needed that
17:50:13 <instantbot> leeraccount@yahoo.de added attachment 327 to bug 468.
17:50:15 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=468 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Introduce an "account display name"
17:50:55 <Mic> Normally I don't .. inthis case I made a "Most recently added" search and only wanted to display the .. 10 latest or so
17:54:35 <instantbot> leeraccount@yahoo.de added attachment 328 to bug 462.
17:54:36 <instantbot> leeraccount@yahoo.de cancelled review?(florian@instantbird .org) for attachment 321 on bug 462.
17:54:37 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=462 nor, --, ---, leeraccount, NEW, Accesskeys on preferences window
17:55:35 <instantbot> leeraccount@yahoo.de requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 328 on bug 462.
17:55:40 <Mic> Sorry for bug spam ..
18:03:59 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 471 filed by leeraccount@yahoo.de.
18:04:01 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=471 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Open "Join chat" dialog blocks sign on/off animation
18:07:02 <tymerkaev> flo: can you see bug 414?
18:07:05 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=414 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, --enable-purple-plugins doesn't work
18:07:14 <tymerkaev> ooops
18:07:22 <tymerkaev> ywrong bug number
18:07:27 <tymerkaev> wrong*
18:08:42 <tymerkaev> flo: bug 460
18:08:44 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=460 min, --, 0.3a1, nobody, UNCO, Short some window titles to match in the titlebar
18:10:18 <Mic> Just my 2 cents: I think the application name should be visible somewhere
18:10:35 <tymerkaev> Mic: why?
18:10:46 <Mic> Most likely on the buddy list (where I'd get rid of the "Buddies" instead)
18:11:56 <clokep_work> tymerkaev: All applications show it (on Windows at least).
18:12:25 <tymerkaev> It contains much space
18:13:21 * Mic just notices that he already has the buddy list change .. among other things it is visible on attachment 327 ;)
18:13:39 <tymerkaev> I need flo's thought
18:15:26 <flo> tymerkaev: I think we should remove words that are not significant from window titles
18:15:40 <flo> Accounts manager -> Account, Buddy list -> Contacts, ...
18:17:21 <flo> I'm not sure about having " - Instantbird" in the names or not. I think we want to do what other applications do, so as to not "stand out" on such a thing. It may not be the same on all OSes.
18:17:46 <tymerkaev> flo: confirm my bug please
18:20:21 <Mic> btw there's nearly fifty unconfirmed bugs, we should look through them and decide what to do one day
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18:24:04 <tymerkaev> flo: can you give me needed permissions on Bugzilla?
18:24:12 <flo> your bug is confirmed
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18:30:33 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 258 to INVALID.
18:30:35 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO INVALID, Improper English grammar in alert message.
18:34:36 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 281 to INVALID.
18:34:39 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=281 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO INVALID, Pidgin 2.6.4 crashes when writing from Instantbird 0.2 beta1 on Ubuntu
18:34:59 <DGMurdockIII> 2(flo2): hay hay figered out anymore on the that bug i post a littel while ago
18:37:48 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 397 to WORKSFORME.
18:37:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=397 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO WORKSFORME, google talk can not see the online people
18:45:53 <flo> 45 remaining.
18:46:11 <flo> I guess if I triage 3 of them everyday we can be done in less than a month :)
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18:51:01 <Grunt> Hey flo, do I have to upload the et-EE (renamed and translated en-ET) to the estonian repo ?
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21:21:33 <flo> Grunt: I'm sorry I don't understand your question :(
21:23:01 <Grunt> i got the english release from the repository and i started translating the Instantbird\instantbird\locales\en-US directory 
21:24:40 <Grunt> and i cant upload it to the svn for some reason , or it wont show it there.
21:25:34 <flo> svn?
21:25:50 <Grunt> mercury*
21:30:50 <Mic> There are slovak and czech language packs on AIO but they haven't submitted anything to the l10n Hg
21:30:54 <flo> if you want help on it, I think detailing "some reason" is likely to help ;)
21:31:00 <Mic> Maybe there's a problem for them?
21:31:14 <flo> Mic: I think the author is having trouble with hg too
21:33:24 <Grunt> the TortoiseHG says that it uploaded the files but when i check then there is nothing except the purple folder
21:35:37 <flo> I've never usede tortoiseHG myself, so I may not be the best person to help :-/
21:35:50 <Grunt> okay , what do you use?
21:36:38 <Mic> Grunt: which steps have you performed in the process?
21:36:49 <DGMurdockIII> http://tortoisehg.bitbucket.org/manual/1.1/quick.html
21:38:11 <Grunt> i did the steps in the instantbird wiki
21:40:12 <Mic> uh, it's wordy :D
21:40:54 * flo replies to the Instantbird related emails he has starred while he was away
21:43:38 <DGMurdockIII> 2(Grunt2): i also look at that link i posted and see if that helps at all
21:43:53 <Grunt> i have translated half of the chrome/instantbird files
21:44:04 <Grunt> yes , i looked at it and am trying it now
21:50:52 * flo ponders adding "Loving Instantbird? Spread the word!" at the end of his email signature for all outgoing emails using @instantbird.org addresses
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21:56:40 <flo> we don't own spreadinstantbird.com (yet?)
21:59:19 <Grunt> yay , i finally managed to upload. thank you DGMurdockIII :)
22:01:15 <GeekShadow> hey
22:01:25 <DGMurdockIII> hey
22:01:29 * GeekShadow just discover the new IB website
22:01:31 <GeekShadow> look really nice :)
22:01:48 <DGMurdockIII> 2(Grunt2): so the link i posted helped
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22:07:02 <flo> GeekShadow: glad you like it! :)
22:09:41 <flo> I really need to explain in the FAQ how the username should be set when commiting a changeset in hg
22:09:42 <GeekShadow> flo, which XR/gecko is used on 0.2 ?
22:09:49 <flo> 1.9.2
22:09:58 <flo> I don't remember the macro version
22:10:09 <flo> *micro
22:10:12 <clokep> I think
22:10:25 <GeekShadow> ok
22:10:31 * clokep might be making that up.
22:10:49 <flo> GeekShadow: we will upgrade to Mozilla 2.0 in our nightlies relatively soon (end of the month I guess)
22:11:00 <GeekShadow> nice ;)
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22:11:23 <flo> I guess I should post a status update on the blog tomorrow to explain what has been going on since the release
22:13:18 <flo> if there are things that I need to address quickly, make sure I'm aware of them.
22:14:28 <flo> I'm likely to go away from IRC (and maybe even the Internet, depending on the 3G coverage) again for a week starting Wednesday morning.
22:15:03 <flo> (vacations this time, more rest and less tiring work!)
22:19:30 <skeledrew> hey flo. welcome back
22:20:30 <flo> hey skeledrew :)
22:22:12 <skeledrew> flo: bug 470
22:22:15 <skeledrew> :)
22:22:16 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Quiet mode
22:22:35 <flo> skeledrew: ?
22:22:55 <skeledrew> something we were discussing earlier
22:23:15 <skeledrew> myself, clokep and Mic
22:23:53 * clokep thought someone was actually talking to him. :P
22:24:07 <skeledrew> lol
22:32:26 * flo just commented in bug 468
22:32:29 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=468 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Introduce an "account display name"
22:32:38 <flo> maybe a bit too verbose :-D
22:34:11 <clokep> I don't get what that bug is asking for.
22:35:47 <flo> a way to identify the accounts easily. Rename them = set an alias
22:36:09 <clokep> Right, well what its asking sounds exactly like the alias function to me. :)
22:36:50 <flo> or like what the alias function should do if it was implmented in a way that makes sense
22:38:02 <clokep> I like the idea you posted, akes a lot of sense.
22:53:17 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 328 on bug 462.
22:53:18 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=462 nor, --, ---, leeraccount, NEW, Accesskeys on preferences window
22:55:30 <flo> I'm curious to see what has caused bug 461
22:55:32 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Unable to Reorder Accounts
22:55:55 <clokep> That was my bug, right?
22:56:06 <clokep> Yes....let me know if the STR aren't clear.
23:02:09 <skeledrew> last i checked, mine reorder fine
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23:04:51 <flo> skeledrew: are you on a nightly?
23:04:53 <clokep> skeledrew: Are you on 0.2 or 0.3a1pre?
23:05:21 <skeledrew> 0.2
23:05:27 <skeledrew> :)
23:06:00 <clokep> Its a regression from 0.2.
23:07:59 * flo reads his own comments in bug 225
23:08:02 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=225 enh, --, 0.2, nobody, NEW, Display more information in the buddy list
23:08:26 <flo> I was talking about 0.3 already, almost a year ago :-S
23:08:42 * clokep is off to get Subyway.
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23:42:18 <flo> bah, the problem of replying to emails is that people reply again while you are still replying to other messages, and it's a never ending game :-D