#instantbird log on 08 05 2010

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02:03:57 <clokep> So...the Instantbird spell checker things "blonde" is not a word...it is...? Is that a bug?
02:04:19 <hicham> in the dictionaries
02:04:36 <clokep> Firefox gets it right. :)
02:05:08 <hicham> maybe the dictionaries shipped in IB are not uptodate
02:05:16 <clokep> Yeah...I'll file a bug. ;)
02:06:02 <hicham> If it was linux, they should behave the same
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02:07:04 <clokep> I can't open my virtual machine right now, I'm on Skype hah.
02:12:59 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 466 filed by clokep@gmail.com.
02:13:02 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=466 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Spell check says "Blonde" is not a word...it is...
02:15:00 <tymerkaev> clokep: that bug will have status RESOLVED INVALID
02:15:09 <tymerkaev> it's m-c part
02:15:19 <clokep> OK.
02:15:31 <clokep> Which is what I said in the description.
02:15:49 * tymerkaev can't find flo this week
02:15:57 <clokep> flo is away this week.
02:17:14 <clokep> Besides its better to file the bug while I thought of it then to forget about it and not have it solved. I mean how often do I type "blonde"? :P
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10:35:35 <zidak> hello
10:36:05 <zidak> Does anybody know is webcams supported on Instantbird?
10:37:35 <zidak> gah
10:37:45 <zidak> guess i'll switch back to emesene then
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13:06:30 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 466 to INVALID.
13:06:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=466 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO INVALID, Spell check says "Blonde" is not a word...it is...
13:46:15 <tymerkaev> instantbot: hg
13:46:19 <instantbot> tymerkaev: Sorry, I've no idea what 'hg' might be.
13:46:20 <instantbot> tymerkaev: firebot knew: iirc, hg is Mercurial. See https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Developer_Guide/Source_Code/Mercurial#mozilla-central_%28main_development_tree%29
13:46:35 <tymerkaev> instantbot: checked-in
13:46:38 <instantbot> tymerkaev: Sorry, I've no idea what 'checked-in' might be.
13:46:56 <tymerkaev> sumobot: we'll kill you
13:46:57 * sumobot want to see how you do it ;)
13:47:30 <tymerkaev> sumobot: no, we'll kill you is <action> want to see how you do that ;P
13:47:31 <sumobot> tymerkaev: ok
13:47:49 <tymerkaev> sumobot: we'll kill you
13:47:50 * sumobot want to see how you do that ;P
14:01:59 <skeledrew> ... meh
14:04:16 <clokep_work> Meh?
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14:47:30 <Mic> clokep_work: what is the most recent Auto Link version I can have?
14:47:53 <Mic> (I've got "0.4" and I wonder whether I got it from you or meddled with the code;)
14:48:08 <clokep_work> Uhhh...I think 0.4 is the newest. I'll check.
14:48:14 <Mic> sorry, I just noticed that
14:48:38 <Mic> I wonder how that slipped my attention before
14:48:47 <clokep_work> What did?
14:48:57 <clokep_work> 0.4 is the newest, but that doesn't mean you didn't mess with it. ;)
14:49:32 <Mic> I meant whether I changed the version number or not .. 
14:49:54 <Mic> Might be important to receive or avoid updates one day
14:50:28 <Mic> Btw having an extension both in the extensions/ folder and normally installed seems to completely kill it
14:50:43 <Mic> It doesn't even show an error on the console what's going wrong
14:50:52 <Mic> It just disappears
14:50:54 <clokep_work> Interesting. :)
15:03:17 <clokep_work> At least that's something that should enver happen, right?
15:03:19 <clokep_work> *never
15:05:19 <Mic> yes ..
15:06:21 <clokep_work> I have two functions whihc are very similar and seem to do almost the same exact thing. :-\ I can't tell the difference.
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15:35:38 <deOmega> hi
15:36:46 <clokep_work> Hello deOmega.
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15:39:22 <deOmega> Anything new? :)
15:39:52 * tymerkaev thinks that nothing new without flo
15:40:07 <deOmega> where is flo?
15:40:34 <hicham> is flo the only dev ?
15:40:54 <clokep_work> flo is the main dev, and is away until tomorrow AFAIK.
15:40:56 <deOmega> hicham: no
15:41:06 <deOmega> ok
15:41:39 <clokep_work> Nothing new with Instantbird, got some work done on extensions.
15:42:01 <deOmega> buddy icon ready? :)
15:43:18 <deOmega> I was on vacation for a week, so was looking forward to hearing of the developments :)
15:43:31 <clokep_work> No, didn't start real work on it, but I'm ni a position where I /can/ start work on it.
15:43:49 <deOmega> great!
15:43:51 <clokep_work> Figured out the necesary groundwork, ya know?
15:44:04 <deOmega> makes sense
15:44:44 <deOmega> what is lj talk really about
15:44:53 <deOmega> i read but  could not comprehend
15:45:01 <clokep_work> Do you know what Live Journal is?
15:45:08 <deOmega> no
15:45:28 <clokep_work> Its a blogging website, that used to be big...when I was in like middle/high school, so that was like 6 years ago or so.
15:45:29 <deOmega> ah
15:45:40 <clokep_work> Its still pretty big, although IDK people who use it.
15:45:44 <deOmega> just  went to it
15:45:56 <clokep_work> But they have an XMPP interface like Facebook, so you don't need LJ Talk extension to connect, but it makes it easier/ adds an icon.
15:46:25 <deOmega> ok.. and autolink
15:46:34 <deOmega> I tried it buy   it is not computing for me
15:46:57 <clokep_work> Auto Link will automatically link certain patterns in text, but the ones it comes with are rather developer focused.
15:47:10 <clokep_work> And its a bit...not working perfectly yet.
15:47:28 <deOmega> ok, that woudl make sense  that it is developer focused.. i read it, triedit, but   i was still lost
15:47:35 <deOmega> so, that explains it  HA
15:47:44 <clokep_work> Hahah.
15:47:59 <clokep_work> It just turns a statement like bug 12345 into a link to Bugzilla.
15:48:05 <clokep_work> (That's the default few patterns anyway.)
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15:48:33 <deOmega> ah.. again, makes sense
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15:49:17 <deOmega> would it  benecessary to put that in teh  descriptor? or would teh person that need it know what it is  immediately?
15:49:36 <deOmega> eg: It just turns a statement like bug 12345 into a link to Bugzilla.
15:50:11 <clokep_work> I guess "Converts a plain text pattern to hyperlinks of your choice. " isn't really a good description? ;)
15:50:36 <clokep_work> I'll update it a bit, let me know if its more reader friendly.
15:51:49 <deOmega> haha,  yeah, that description lost me.. however,   since it is  likely not for users like myself,  it makes sense that i was lost 
15:52:40 <clokep_work> But you should at least understand vaguely what it does. ;)
15:53:03 <deOmega> true
15:53:42 <clokep_work> And don't use Last Viewed Chat, its broken. :P (If that's even visible?)
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15:54:09 <clokep_work> instantbot: bug 32
15:54:12 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32 cri, P5, 0.1.2, florian, RESO FIXED, Crash [@ purpleDNSRequest::Failed]
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15:56:11 <deOmega> clokep_work: no, i do not see it as an addon
15:57:19 <clokep_work> Updated the Auto Link description.
15:58:08 <deOmega> that helps a lot
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16:06:05 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 467 filed by jahkae@gmail.com.
16:06:07 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=467 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Accounts fail to re-login after pc awakes.
16:06:25 <deOmega> :)
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16:11:16 <clokep_work> Ah, yes. Happened a bit ago. I'll confirm.
16:27:06 <deOmega> thank you
16:27:17 <deOmega> i see that googlewave will be waving bye
16:28:30 <clokep_work> Yup. We'll need some other collaboration tool.
16:28:34 <clokep_work> I'd suggest Etherpad personally.
16:30:41 <deOmega> clokep_work:  http://etherpad.com/
16:33:37 <clokep_work> Yes, I know.
16:33:51 <deOmega> ok
16:33:53 <clokep_work> But you can host the software wherever you want or use one of the other ones.
16:34:06 <clokep_work> I've used ietherpad.com or something I think?
16:34:26 <clokep_work> The only bad thing is that I don't think you can make people log in for it?
16:34:27 <deOmega> that  actually sounsds neat
16:34:36 <deOmega> ok
16:34:53 <clokep_work> Google Wave was similiar...but I think its  a lot simpler to use the GWave.
16:35:16 <deOmega> I  honestly anticipated an end to googlewave
16:36:03 <deOmega> expecting  an end to buzz too
16:36:50 <clokep_work> Buzz. :-\ Let's not talk about that.
16:36:57 <deOmega> it may be ok if it was NOT in gmail
16:37:07 <deOmega> but that complicates matters
16:37:19 <clokep_work> I think they tried to connect too much with it.
16:37:23 <clokep_work> And rolled it out w/o telling anyone. :)
16:37:29 <deOmega> i agree
17:00:30 <skeledrew> my accounts always relogin after my PC wakes (usually hibernate)...
17:00:46 <clokep_work> skeledrew: Are you on the trunk?
17:01:07 <skeledrew> uhh
17:01:09 <clokep_work> Random question, does double clicking a participant in a chat nick list bring up a private chat w/ them?
17:01:10 <skeledrew> k
17:01:31 <skeledrew> yep
17:01:40 <skeledrew> tested and confirmed :)
17:02:00 <clokep_work> Haha, OK. I'm trying to track down some code...
17:02:54 * skeledrew just installed the JDK...
17:04:07 <clokep_work> Java Developer Kit? Why on earth? :P Its massive.
17:04:30 <skeledrew> yeah :(
17:04:54 * skeledrew is installing the Android SDK...
17:06:52 <skeledrew> i didn't know the SDK has Python bits in it
17:07:10 <skeledrew> this is looking more like the ultimate chimera
17:14:52 <clokep_work> Haven't used the Android SDK, the JDK always installed easily for me though...its just huge!
17:18:26 * clokep_work is realizing he likes very verbose names in his code.
17:18:41 <hicham> like java naming scheme
17:19:34 <clokep_work> Well I just named a function "getBuddyFromConversation" which is 24 characters, which is a large portion of the 80 character lines most people use.
17:20:28 <clokep_work> So yes, like Java naming schemes...but I don't absurdly inherit and objectify everything like they do. :)
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18:02:47 * Mic likes "shipping is also a feature".
18:03:47 <clokep_work> A feature of what? :P
18:05:37 <Mic> Software in general ;)
18:06:40 <clokep_work> Hahahah. A lot of OSS seems to miss that "feature". :p
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18:47:12 <Mic> I've read it in an article about Windows Phone 7 as explanation why some other features were left out
18:51:00 <clokep_work> MMmm. Ship dates are important.
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20:01:05 * Mic is about to fix bug 412
20:01:08 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, [Accessibility] Add accessible text for the status icons and other purely graphical info
20:01:31 <skeledrew1> :)
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20:02:16 <clokep_work> Mic: Does that also solve 214?
20:02:32 <clokep_work> (Or bug 214 rather.)
20:02:34 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=214 min, --, 0.2, nobody, NEW, [Accessibility] Change the location of the tooltip, add a description attribute on the buddy
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20:56:07 <instantbot> leeraccount@yahoo.de added attachment 325 to bug 412.
20:56:08 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412 nor, --, ---, leeraccount, ASSI, [Accessibility] Add accessible text for the status icons and other purely graphical info
20:57:05 <Mic> clokep_work: I'm curious how you'd make your Auto Link options accessissible ;)
20:57:18 <Mic> *accessible
20:57:30 <clokep_work> Mic: Is it possible to make a regex accessible? :P
20:57:51 <clokep_work> Besides that it'd just be a matter of setting the title/label or whatever, no?
20:58:20 <Mic> yes, but what would you put on it? ;)
20:58:29 <clokep_work> I have no idea. :)
20:58:41 * clokep_work isn't going to worry about it.
20:59:38 <clokep_work> Mic: Why do you declare the XULNS and not use it?
21:00:33 <clokep_work> And couldn't you combine the three liens with labelText into one return statement?
21:00:46 <clokep_work> Sorry, don't mind me looking over your patch, was just curious what it did. :)
21:01:15 <Mic> The XULNS is there because .. I forgot to remove it
21:01:34 <Mic> The rest doesn't matter anyways as it would need to be localizable anyways
21:02:04 <clokep_work> Oh, true.
21:02:09 <clokep_work> :)
21:02:13 <Mic> So the whole patch is sort of useless and only displays how it is done
21:03:09 <clokep_work> Makes sense.
21:03:13 <clokep_work> I have to go. Will be back later.
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