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00:18:21 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 00:28:31 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 00:29:08 <clokep> flo: Build failed could not find purple/libraries/glib/gwin32.h 00:33:40 <clokep> And Google isn't evil yet, but one day it'll be SkyNet. 01:20:59 <-- Amfi has left #instantbird () 01:56:58 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 01:57:02 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 01:57:50 <clokep> Updated Auto-Link to version 0.4. Now with an options pane. I'm sure it has some bugs (actually I know of a few), but I figured I should get it up since it has a preference pane. :) 01:58:13 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 02:31:39 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 02:34:22 <-- micahg has quit (Input/output error) 02:34:55 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 02:43:08 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 04:38:15 <-- Gizmokid2005 has quit (Ping timeout) 04:43:48 --> Gizmokid2005 has joined #instantbird 05:08:52 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 07:28:17 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 08:45:45 --> beigbeider has joined #instantbird 08:46:08 <beigbeider> Hello / ÐдÑавÑÑвÑйÑе 08:59:45 <-- beigbeider has left #instantbird () 08:59:57 --> beigbeider has joined #instantbird 09:02:50 <-- beigbeider has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 09:02:52 --> beigbeider has joined #instantbird 09:09:38 <-- beigbeider has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 09:09:41 --> beigbeider has joined #instantbird 09:20:10 <-- beigbeider has quit (Ping timeout) 09:27:39 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 09:28:03 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 09:28:31 --> beigbeider has joined #instantbird 09:32:00 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 09:32:21 <Mic> hi 09:34:20 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 09:40:27 <-- beigbeider has left #instantbird () 09:42:33 <Mic> /j#firefox 09:45:41 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 09:46:17 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 10:23:34 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 10:45:09 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:49:20 --> tymerkaev-afk has joined #instantbird 10:51:19 * tymerkaev-afk is now known as tymerkaev 10:55:23 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 10:55:27 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:58:34 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 10:58:37 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 11:30:41 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 11:34:38 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 11:47:17 <-- SM0TVI has quit (Quit: Hi. I'm a quit message virus. Add me to your configuration file, and help me take over the world of IRC.) 11:55:54 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 11:59:54 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 12:00:06 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 12:02:01 <Mic> clokep_work: some thoughts and remakrs on Auto Link: on Linux the marks of the checkboxes are placed below the protocol icon (and in somecases you can't tell whether it is check or not) 12:02:16 <Mic> I think I filed a similiar bug for the Status menu of the buddy list on Bugzilla 12:02:38 <Mic> Second: you can't remove rules 12:02:43 <clokep_work> Below? Hmm...interesting. 12:02:48 <clokep_work> Ah, I knew I forgot something. :) 12:02:56 <clokep_work> I almost forgot adding rules haha. 12:03:21 <clokep_work> Well its at least more customizable then it /was/. ;) 12:03:30 * clokep_work got very distracted by a bug when you make a regexp too long. 12:03:42 <clokep_work> Thanks though. 12:03:57 <clokep_work> Wait, the checkboxes are /below/ the protocol icons in the drop downs? 12:04:10 <Mic> exactly 12:04:42 <clokep_work> On windows if you put both the icons are just ignored. 12:05:05 <Mic> https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365 12:05:08 <instantbot> Bug 365 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Checkmark on status popup hidden behind status icon 12:05:23 --> SM0TVI has joined #instantbird 12:06:00 <clokep_work> Wait, behind or below? 12:06:24 <clokep_work> Ah, OK. That makes more sense. :) 12:07:16 <Mic> in z-order 12:08:07 <clokep_work> Got it. 12:08:08 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 460 filed by tymerkaev@gmail.com. 12:08:12 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=460 min, --, 0.3a1, nobody, UNCO, Short some window titles to match in the titlebar 12:10:22 <clokep_work> Thanks Mic, I'll look at that this weekend (and add the 7 lines of code or whatever to let you remove filters. :P) 12:14:07 <Mic> What about adding extending the context menu of the links that you create? 12:14:20 <Mic> Something like "Don't apply in this conversation"? 12:14:48 <Mic> (not as context menu item but as general idea) 12:15:15 <Mic> I want to add this to the content preview extension 12:15:36 <Mic> So people can easily disable previews from a conversation 12:15:47 <clokep_work> Forever w/ that person or only temporarily? 12:16:00 <clokep_work> Temporarily is easy since you just remove the observer. 12:16:21 <Mic> My idea was about editing the rule by such an action 12:16:53 <clokep_work> OK, so forever. :) 12:16:54 <Mic> even more advanced: select a piece of text and let the user create a rule based on it 12:17:00 <clokep_work> Should be possible. 12:17:16 <clokep_work> That would be nice. :) 12:17:32 <Mic> And we're heading into absolute context menu clutter here :P 12:17:41 <clokep_work> Hahah, yes...we are. 12:18:54 <Mic> Something else I'd like to try: creating something like the accelerator popup in IE8+ 12:19:17 <Mic> A small icon that displays that some actions are possible somewhere 12:19:38 <Mic> Could be possible using a panel, even though it might need some restyling to get rid of the borders 12:21:28 <clokep_work> That shouldn't be too hard though. 12:22:11 <clokep_work> A small icon after your stuff that's added that pops up a panel? 12:22:18 <clokep_work> With things that can be done. 12:22:58 <Mic> I've tried it and the problem was to make it look decent .. 12:23:06 <Mic> I couldn't get rid of the borders somehow 12:23:25 <Mic> let's see 12:24:08 <clokep_work> Hmmm...My help button has a panel. ;) I don't remember if it had panels or not. 12:24:13 <Mic> (it didn't have any functionality though) 12:26:02 <clokep_work> True. 12:29:26 * clokep_work just added many issues to his tracker. 13:07:32 <skeledrew> Mic: "Could be possible using a panel, even though it might need some restyling to get rid of the borders" i got a borderless window for all your needs ;) 13:07:56 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 13:08:05 <skeledrew> lolz 13:41:14 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 13:43:39 <Mic> skeledrew: I think a panel might be more practical ;) 13:46:46 <Mic> Even: thanks for the review 13:54:17 <skeledrew> a floating panel? 13:54:20 <skeledrew> hmm 13:55:35 <skeledrew> one that follows your mouse arounf :) 13:55:44 <skeledrew> *around 13:56:02 <clokep_work> I hope not. 13:56:11 <skeledrew> heh 13:56:14 <clokep_work> I really like panels though, I think they're a good use of UI that doesn't need to always be there. 13:56:15 <skeledrew> why not? 13:56:17 <clokep_work> Clears up context menus. 13:56:27 <skeledrew> k 13:56:40 <clokep_work> Nothing should ever follow the mouse around, don't you remember cursor tails from the 90s ont he web? ;) 13:56:55 * skeledrew sighs 13:57:02 <skeledrew> those were the days... 13:57:43 <skeledrew> i wonder what became of them 13:57:50 <clokep_work> Mic: Wow the overrides are really simple. 13:58:02 <clokep_work> skeledrew: Most of the software had a lot of spyware in it. 13:58:13 <skeledrew> ahh 13:58:33 <Mic> How do you (or don't you) click a panel that follows your mouse? 13:58:59 <Mic> Indeed, I created two for german social networks that use a xmpp based chat 13:59:08 <skeledrew> it stops when you move the pointer towards it 13:59:11 <skeledrew> :) 13:59:44 <Mic> (they distinguish between a pupil and students/all others network and use separate server names for that) 14:00:06 --> kaie has joined #instantbird 14:00:06 <Mic> I haven't tried to derive one from anything but xmpp 14:00:08 <clokep_work> I like distinguishing. :) That's awesome though. 14:00:12 <skeledrew> it would work like FF's CoolPreviews 14:00:26 <clokep_work> I'm not sure any other protocol is really used a lot. I guess Oscar kind of. 14:01:12 <clokep_work> They going to be added to Instantbird? ;) 14:01:21 <clokep_work> (Or perhaps that German translated version...) 14:01:22 <Mic> I'll provide them as extensions 14:02:07 <Mic> I only need to create appropriate icons first - so far I'm using the original icons and I guess I'm not allowed to ;) 14:03:50 <clokep_work> Hahah, most likely not. :) If they're somewhat popular sites then most likely some one has icons that are "the same" licensed under CC. 14:03:51 <Mic> And I don't want to draw the attentions of one of these web companies .. they're pretty trigger-happy imo 14:04:12 <Mic> (with respect to violations of copy-whatso-ever-rights) 14:06:25 <clokep_work> Got it. 14:06:34 <clokep_work> Hmm...apparently Google Wave has a protocol based on XMPP. 14:11:40 <Mic> Maybe we should collect a list of social networks which use xmpp and create a set of override protocols 14:12:35 <clokep_work> Mic: I was just thinking that... :) 14:12:38 <Mic> Even if it is possible to use them as xmpp accounts directly it is much nicer for users to actually have a protocol that has the default server set correctly 14:12:54 <Mic> and especially a nice icon in the account manager ;) 14:13:06 <clokep_work> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_social_networking_websites used this article for class this semester...hmm... 14:13:15 <clokep_work> (Its scary long.) 14:13:43 <clokep_work> Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_instant_messaging_clients#Multiprotocol_clients might be usedful in seeing what others support. 14:30:53 <Mic> let's see 14:31:02 <Mic> I#ll be back later 14:31:55 <clokep_work> OK. Maybe I'll start a wiki page if I have some down time? 14:32:33 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 14:38:54 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Client exited) 15:06:35 <clokep_work> Mic: https://wiki.instantbird.org/Override_Protocols 16:07:12 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 16:14:45 <kaie> today msn seems broken (both pidgin and instantbird) 16:26:04 <clokep_work> kaie: I haven't been on today, but if its both its probably a server issue. :) 16:26:16 <kaie> yes, absolutely 16:26:40 <clokep_work> You seem to be having bad luck. ;) 16:46:08 <clokep_work> instantbot: uuid 16:46:09 <instantbot> a04b520c-0a0a-441e-8dab-6adc5b7a7587 (/msg instantbot cid for CID form) 16:50:23 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 16:50:23 * ChanServ sets mode +o idechix 16:59:04 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 17:10:34 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 17:12:04 <Mic> clokep_work: did you do an override for LiveJournal? 17:13:49 <clokep_work> Did I actually make it? No. Was going to do it when I got home. 17:14:16 <clokep_work> Just got the ifnormation and then was doing some paperowrk. 17:14:35 <clokep_work> Documentation is a pain. :) 17:16:26 <clokep_work> I have a LJ account (from like 10 years ago. :P But I think its still active), so wouldn't be an issue for me to test. 17:19:47 <clokep_work> Mic: This might interest? http://www.iconspedia.com/pack/social-me-1467/ 17:20:46 <clokep_work> (More of the site, not that specific one...although ti has a LJ icon.) 17:22:05 <clokep_work> Although it has some funky styling to it haha. 17:31:57 <clokep_work> instantbot: uuid 17:31:58 <instantbot> 5e5877ac-5792-45b8-91db-916c36a23359 (/msg instantbot cid for CID form) 17:43:36 <Mic> "13:56:17 <clokep_work> Clears up context menus." 17:43:49 <Mic> Not exactly 17:44:00 <Mic> Panels start where the menu fails imo 17:44:29 <Mic> You can put arbitrary UI elements onto a panel while you can only use menuitems in menus 17:46:36 <clokep_work> I think it all depends on what you use it for. 17:54:09 <clokep_work> But I agree that's a big benefit -- that you can put anything on them. 17:56:17 <Mic> The mdc search is broken since a few days 17:59:39 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 18:00:57 <clokep_work> Its frustrating, thankfully if you google "mdc " + searchTerms, it'll almost always offer mdc as the first hit. 18:02:12 <Mic> google for 18:02:28 <Mic> site:developer.mozilla.org <here are your search terms> 18:03:04 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 18:03:18 <clokep_work> That works too. 18:03:25 <clokep_work> mdc is just shorter. ;) 18:15:08 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 18:27:59 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 18:47:11 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 19:12:42 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 19:13:07 <Mic> clokep,clokep_work: suggestion: format your help panel using a table 19:17:41 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 19:21:13 <Mic> instantbot: uuid 19:21:14 <instantbot> e354f0fb-af72-4a29-a220-2663501a911b (/msg instantbot cid for CID form) 19:25:15 <clokep> Mic: Yeah, I just didn't have time to rewrite it after it was a menu, I changed it w/ regex... 19:25:22 <clokep> Will be a table. :) 19:25:39 <clokep> Probably will also be something you can keep up. 19:27:44 <clokep> That uuid isn't for LJ, right? 19:28:34 <Mic> no 19:35:06 <clokep> Did you end up just putting it in an extension's components folder? 19:36:55 <Mic> I made an extension of it 19:37:36 <clokep> OK. It probably helps when I don't misspell file names. :) 20:01:41 <Mic> :D 20:02:11 <Mic> I created a nice looking logo for the social network .. 20:02:35 <Mic> Unfortunately it is only a seven instead of eight-pointed star ;) 20:03:33 <clokep> instantbot: uuid 20:03:34 <instantbot> 11f3a3b9-2928-42f1-a9e1-c9d638ab0e74 (/msg instantbot cid for CID form) 20:03:43 <clokep> Hahah, unfortunately. ;) 20:03:52 <clokep> Arg damn, wrong computer. 20:03:59 --> clokep_dev has joined #instantbird 20:04:12 <clokep_dev> instantbot: uuid 20:04:13 <instantbot> 88f1f395-3ebd-4357-afa6-78e7a17715b4 (/msg instantbot cid for CID form) 20:04:34 <-- clokep_dev has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 20:12:18 <tymerkaev> instantbot: uuid 20:12:19 <instantbot> 162650a9-45ba-4c9a-a6ff-343a0a36414c (/msg instantbot cid for CID form) 20:12:19 <tymerkaev> instantbot: uuid 20:12:20 <instantbot> 2e6e86aa-de9c-4b5d-a2d9-1ed69298a76d (/msg instantbot cid for CID form) 20:12:21 <tymerkaev> instantbot: uuid 20:12:22 <instantbot> 102c86af-658d-420d-8c04-0f71450e9b2d (/msg instantbot cid for CID form) 20:14:02 <clokep> Yay, it works. 20:14:08 <clokep> Took a little to remember my password haha. 20:33:50 <-- idechix has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 20:37:29 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 20:41:25 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Client exited) 21:23:21 --> goulagman has joined #instantbird 21:25:27 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 21:26:22 <Mic> override extension is uploaded to AIO :) 21:27:51 <clokep> Cool. :) 21:27:51 <Mic> I admit that I arbitrarily set the version number to 2.0 21:28:00 <Mic> Just looks better for social networks :P 21:28:11 <clokep> I was wondering about that. 21:29:08 <Mic> Maybe I should drop the "0." of the version number on Buddy Status as well ;) 21:29:16 <clokep> Haha. 21:30:55 <-- goulagman has quit (Ping timeout) 21:36:12 <clokep> Mic: 21:36:25 <clokep> That probably only works for 0.3a1pre since it needs js-proto branch, no? 21:36:33 <Mic> no 21:36:35 <clokep> Or were the overrides always JavaScript? 21:36:55 <Mic> Facebook chat was working like this all the time 21:37:00 <Mic> well, at least for month now 21:37:19 <clokep> Ah OK. I didn't realize it was always a JS component. 21:40:35 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 21:40:37 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 21:41:27 <clokep> Mic: Are you on the latest nightly? 21:41:33 <Mic> no 21:41:38 <Mic> Not here 21:41:39 <clokep> Are you on any nightly? :) 21:41:41 <clokep> Oh OK. 21:41:57 * clokep can't reorder his accounts, wants confirmation. 21:41:59 <Mic> I'm running the latest nightly at another place 21:42:22 <clokep> LJ Talk: https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/addon/255 21:42:23 <Mic> well, that's exactly why I don't run the latest nightlies here :P 21:42:26 <clokep> :) 21:42:45 <clokep> Yeah I have a lot broken right now. 21:42:52 <Mic> No, Instantbird nightlies are better than other software's release versions .. 21:43:15 <clokep> Ah, didn't mean with Instantbird. I mean with Firefox and Thunderbird. ::) 21:43:59 <Mic> I was only qualifying my last statement 21:46:08 <clokep> And I was clarifying mine. :) 21:46:22 <clokep> But I agree, Instantbird's are wayyyyy better then most other nightly/beta software I've used. 21:46:27 <clokep> Even some release software. 21:47:24 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 461 filed by clokep@gmail.com. 21:47:27 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Unable to Reorder Accounts 22:08:00 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 22:13:28 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 22:41:20 <instantbot> leeraccount@yahoo.de added attachment 320 to bug 459. 22:41:21 <instantbot> leeraccount@yahoo.de requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 320 on bug 459. 22:41:22 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=459 min, --, ---, leeraccount, ASSI, Clashing accesskeys at Advanced-General 22:48:32 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 22:48:43 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 22:50:16 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 22:55:39 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 22:58:24 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 23:15:07 <Mic> nn 23:19:28 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre)