#instantbird log on 07 29 2010

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00:26:54 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/71b4cd06c7de - Florian Quèze - Fix compatibility with Mozilla 2.0 (upgrade comm-central build system using 9f4d6e54923d as the reference).
00:28:00 <flo> 70 files changed, 2059 insertions(+), 2480 deletions(-)
00:28:07 <flo> that will be enough for today!
00:30:36 <clokep> :) Maybe i"ll try out some ctypes if I have time. ;)
00:30:52 <flo> I pushed it in a branch
00:31:20 <flo> there are at least 2 significant bugs I need to understand before putting this in nightlies
00:31:51 <flo> - it doesn't detect when a window is active. (this messes up with styling on Mac, and with unread message count everywhere)
00:32:37 <flo> - DOMNodeInserted doesn't seem to be fired -> breaks message themes that use JavaScript code executed after each message insertion
00:33:07 <clokep> I don't need either of those to launch a window and fire a load listener though, right?
00:33:27 <flo> + all the bugs I haven't discovered yet ;)
00:33:50 <flo> I think it's good enough for you to use it on a test profil
00:34:04 <flo> it builds at least on Mac and Linux
00:34:12 <flo> I don't know for windows
00:34:34 <clokep> OK.
00:34:54 * clokep is running hg update.
00:35:18 <clokep> Oh hey, while I have you here...how can I choose a branch to use instead of just updatin gto a specific revision.
00:35:35 <flo> hg up -C <branchname>
00:36:27 <clokep> Thanks. :)
00:37:48 <flo> np
00:38:30 <flo> buildbot doesn't like my changeset
00:39:07 <flo> there's a patch for mozilla-central that doesn't apply on m-1.9.2, and buildbot updates the repository to mozilla-1.9.2 :)
00:41:20 <clokep> Haah. I don't think that would work well.
00:41:37 <flo> at least it fails early :)
00:42:03 * clokep is running client.mk
00:42:18 <clokep> Hahah, keeps you from waiting an hour to see that it failed. ;
00:42:52 <flo> yeah, the results on Windows could have been interesting (as I haven't tested yet there)
00:43:00 <clokep> Oops it failed.
00:43:05 <flo> ?
00:43:35 <clokep> Its not finding python? (o_O)
00:45:11 <flo> what's the command you have used?
00:46:18 <clokep> One second. Cleaning.
00:46:26 <clokep> make -f client.mk build
00:46:40 <clokep> Sometimes my first biuld fails and then the second one works too. IDK why.
00:50:43 <flo> I've not put in place code to change the mozilla repository from 1.9.3 to trunk. I've manually moved away the "mozilla" folder so that the repository is cloned again
00:51:12 <clokep> Might also be that I updated mozilla-build. I don't think I've compiled anything since I did that.
00:51:32 <flo> anyway, good evening/night
00:51:39 <flo> (it's almost 3am already :-/)
00:51:48 <clokep> 'night!
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01:10:36 <clokep> flo: Manually nuking my obj dir worked. Not sure where the incompatibility was.
01:14:56 <skeledrew> hmm. who paged me?
01:15:16 <clokep> skeledrew: I have no idea.
01:15:30 <skeledrew> k...
01:15:45 <clokep> Check the logs. ;)
01:16:04 * clokep is compiling with gecko2 right now.
01:16:58 * skeledrew is kinda tired og log browsing
01:17:12 <clokep> Hahah.
01:17:50 <clokep> http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/100728/#m303
01:18:51 <skeledrew> ooooh. we can do that?
01:19:15 <skeledrew> hmm
01:19:55 * skeledrew dislikes mmddyyyy formatted dates
01:20:14 <clokep> I like yyyymmdd personally. :)
01:20:23 <clokep> Or maybe just seconds since the Unix Epoch. ;)
01:20:44 <skeledrew> you're crazy
01:21:05 <clokep> I'm joking, I hate Unix time stamps.
01:21:06 <skeledrew> but yeah. i'll use yyyymmdd or ddmmyyyy
01:21:21 <skeledrew> lol
01:22:32 <skeledrew> is there some search function on the log site i'm missing?
01:23:52 <clokep> No.
01:24:02 <clokep> I just searching skeledrew in the last two days log. :p
01:24:12 <clokep> Some of it is covered by Google, but nothing new.
01:24:34 <skeledrew> Google???
01:24:40 <skeledrew> hmm...
01:28:15 <skeledrew> uhh
01:28:45 <skeledrew> i'm not getting any results before the 21st...
01:28:59 <skeledrew> /s/before/after
01:29:05 <clokep> Right.
01:59:46 <clokep> Blah its been 50 minutes so far...
02:14:35 <clokep> Bah, so....1 hour and 4 minutes later....I get a build error during linking. :(
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02:50:51 <clokep> Oops. I was compiling against 1.9.2. :) My bad.
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05:52:05 <orlik> hu all
05:52:40 <orlik> why Ctrl+c dont work in conwersation window ? 
05:54:12 <skeledrew> orlik: it does work
05:59:22 <orlik> hmm , work ... 
05:59:53 <orlik> 2 minutes ago, dont work :)
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07:30:58 <Mic> Good morning
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09:47:24 <tymerkaev> instantbot: lvm
09:47:27 <instantbot> tymerkaev: Sorry, I've no idea what 'lvm' might be.
09:47:28 <instantbot> tymerkaev: Logs Viewer mockup (LVm) is here: http://img690.imageshack.us/i/logsvieweri1.png/. Created by tymerkaev.
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10:54:06 <flo> clokep: any success with that moz2.0 build? :)
10:55:16 <clokep> Update log: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/335 ; build log: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/336
10:55:21 <clokep> (The build log is still uploading?)
10:55:44 <clokep> Uhhh...I had a few patches that failed to apply but it was past my bedtime so I attempting a compile anyway, it failed. :)
10:58:55 <flo> you were using moz1.9.2, right?
10:59:25 <clokep> I was, but then I downloaded mozilla-central.
10:59:38 <clokep> Uhhh...I got linking errrors, looks like it couldn't find places.
11:00:05 <clokep> I can send you the other log if you want, IDK if it'd be helpful, but its too big for pastebin?
11:01:06 <flo> I had to enable places (it wasn't compiled until now...)
11:03:34 <clokep> Guesss I failed to do that. :) How do I...?
11:03:40 <clokep> One of those ac option sor whatever? :P
11:05:05 <flo> no, it was a change in confvars.sh
11:05:54 <flo> https://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/diff/71b4cd06c7de/instantbird/confvars.sh
11:09:41 <clokep> Seems I had swithced my branch, and then it swithced back on me while I was attempting to update mozilla-central. : sigh :
11:17:43 <clokep> flo: Just started build #2.
11:18:02 <clokep> All the patches applied successfully this time. :) That makes more sense.
11:36:43 <clokep> Well its going but I need to go to work.
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16:01:02 * flo has received his android toy :)
16:01:23 <clokep_work> Which did you actually get by the way? Although I'm not even sure what's available outside the US. :P
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16:04:49 <flo> clokep_work: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S
16:05:35 <clokep_work> Ah,y es my friend was looking at that (but is waiting for some rumored 2 GHz phone in December?) That'd probably be the one I got if I could afford a phone now. :) Very nice.
16:06:04 <clokep_work> (Well the US version I mean...)
16:10:55 <flo> Is there a specific US version?
16:12:02 <clokep_work> There will be I think.
16:12:09 <clokep_work> Ther has to be, our carriers all use different networks, etc.
16:12:36 <flo> can't it just use all the frequencies that are allowed?
16:13:10 <clokep_work> Not all of the carriers even use GSM.
16:13:54 <clokep_work> Some phones do that though (to support both AT&T & T-Mobile), but Verizon uses CDMA, and I'm not sure about Sprint.
16:14:59 <clokep_work> All very silly. :(
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16:32:18 <flo> Now we "just" need to port Instantbird for it, and design a touch screen UI :)
17:29:02 <clokep_work> Well gecko is ported, right?
17:30:17 <clokep_work> Twitter still hasn't released their OAuth open source solution.
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17:56:22 <clokep_work> Well I guess that wasn't too hard? ;)
17:57:27 <Mic> MIght depend on the solution? ;)
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17:58:34 <mic-iphone> scnr ;)
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17:59:44 <clokep_work> I don't think my phone can get onto IRC. :( :P
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18:01:17 <Mic> Does your phone run Java?
18:02:01 <clokep_work> I don't have a data plan, but yes it does.
18:02:27 <clokep_work> Although by the time it boots it'd be quicker for me to go find a computer. :P
18:02:40 <Mic> I'm sure there's got to be any java irc client
18:02:59 <clokep_work> Yeah but I don't have a data plan anyway so the point is mute. :)
18:07:01 <skeledrew> you need a phone with wifi...
18:08:05 <clokep_work> I need a phone that's not free first. :P
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18:09:11 <skeledrew> oh?
18:09:15 <skeledrew> NOT?
18:09:21 <skeledrew> got for you...
18:09:37 <skeledrew> *good
18:10:36 <skeledrew> bbl
18:11:07 <clokep_work> Right, like I need to get a phone that isn't really cheap like the one I have?
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18:19:14 <Mic> d'oh .. animated icons are a bit too much on notifications :D
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18:40:46 <Mic> flo: are the protocol icons the same as in Pidgin?
18:41:20 <Mic> (it looks much like it but the screenshot of Pidgin are too small to tell for sure)
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20:08:20 <RickieES> Hi, flo, I'm Ricardo Palomares, from es-ES localization team.
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20:13:54 <DGMurdockIII> 2(RickieES2): hi
20:14:08 <DGMurdockIII> 2(flo2): PING
20:14:31 <RickieES> May I ask you some questions about initial commit?
20:15:16 <DGMurdockIII> go ahead but i but flo would be the better guy to answer this qustion
20:15:20 <DGMurdockIII> but i can try
20:16:17 <RickieES> OK. Flo has imported for us libpurple strings, which are in properties files...
20:16:19 <DGMurdockIII> 2(Even2): ping
20:16:34 <DGMurdockIII> 2(idechix2): ping
20:17:00 <Mic> hi
20:17:48 <clokep_work> RickieES: Have you seen https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Translation/FAQ ?
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20:18:12 <Mic> Was just about to post this :)
20:18:12 <clokep_work> (Specifically https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Translation/FAQ#What_are_the_imported_libpurple_files.3F )
20:18:37 <clokep_work> Mic: I like to wait until you're just about to, so you've done all the work, but then its for naught. :P
20:18:52 <clokep_work> Also, Even: I think this user can be deleted: https://wiki.instantbird.org/User:Dorian
20:19:32 <RickieES> Oh, yes, yes, just give a minute to describe the thing. It is not really a question about the process. :-)
20:20:05 <RickieES> However, I'm using a CAT (Computer Aided Translation) tool we use for all Mozilla-based and it uses "key = value" instead of "key=value" (without whitespace around the equal sign).
20:20:34 <RickieES> So, hg diff shows all the strings modified. Actually, I "own" the tool, so I can modify it not to put those whitespaces...
20:21:35 <RickieES> ...but we keep putting them in all our Mozilla L10n work, so if Instantbird team doesn't mind, I'd like to keep them to be consistent in our format.
20:21:44 <RickieES> Do you think it would be possible?
20:27:13 <DGMurdockIII> 2(Mic2): hello
20:27:13 <DGMurdockIII> 2(micahg2): hello
20:27:56 <micahg> DGMurdockIII: hi, can I help you?
20:28:55 <Mic> DGMurdockIII: hello
20:29:48 <Mic> RickieES: I guess you need to wait for flo
20:30:07 <flo> if it works for other mozilla strings I guess it will work there too
20:30:10 <RickieES> OK, thank you. :-)
20:31:44 <RickieES> Oh, of course the format is valid. It is mainly a matter of comitting a big changeset.
20:32:28 <flo> that's not a problem
20:33:36 <RickieES> If you don't mind, and since I've added and modified some translations in the libpurple part, I think I'm going to manually remove the whitespaces, so I can commit a meaningul first changeset with real changes in the strings, and then I will restore for good the whitespaces to commit them in a separate changeset.
20:34:28 <flo> I don't mind. As long as the result is something you can maintain, it's good :)
20:34:36 <RickieES> BTW, we (es-ES) are down to approx. 400 strings to be in sync, and I expect to to reduce them fairly soon. :-)
20:35:02 <flo> :)
20:36:07 <RickieES> I'm not sure if we will have it ready for this weekend (because I want to teach Inma how to translate, commit the work and so), but I'm fairly sure that es-ES will be complete before August 8th.
20:42:57 <Mic> instantbot: uuid
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21:09:43 <Mic> Flo: could it be that components only get loaded from extension component directories?
21:10:23 <Mic> The override protocol only worked after I moved it from Instantbird's components folder to an extension components folder
21:17:18 <skeledrew_work> the taskbar/tray icon should change based on the user's status. is this filed?
21:18:15 <Mic> skeledrew: as feature for minimize to tray?
21:18:27 <skeledrew_work> no. as a general feature
21:19:21 <Mic> I'd say write a comment on bug 151 then
21:19:24 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151 enh, --, 0.2, nobody, NEW, Create a Tray Icon. SINGLE-click on tray icon opens and closes Instantbird.
21:19:35 <skeledrew_work> k
21:19:56 * skeledrew_work wonders how that's done, but will figure it out...
21:20:24 <Mic> Are you new to Bugzilla?
21:20:39 <skeledrew_work> yeah. all i did was make the account
21:21:03 <Mic> If you're that far it reduces to clicking "reply" and typing your comment
21:21:09 <Mic> :)
21:21:13 <skeledrew_work> k
21:21:16 <skeledrew_work> nice :)
21:21:39 <Mic> You should be logged in for that ofcourse;)
21:21:46 <skeledrew_work> yep
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21:31:28 <flo> Mic: there's a components.list file in the components folder of the application
21:31:36 <flo> you have to add a line for your component to be loaded
21:31:37 <skeledrew1> Mic: so i just reply to the first description?
21:31:49 <flo> of course, this file goes away if you are on Mozilla 2 ...
21:32:16 <Mic> I tried that yesterday but it didn't seem to work
21:32:49 <Mic> I'm packaging it anyways so there's no problem anymore
21:32:55 <flo> I'll be away for about 7-10 days starting tomorrow.
21:33:10 <Mic> Have fun
21:33:34 <flo> I'll check my emails from the android phone (so I can answer questions), but most likely will be unable to come here (and push code to the repository)
21:33:50 <skeledrew1> flo: can i change my BIO name?
21:33:52 <Mic> One last question concerning the override protocols:
21:34:01 <flo> skeledrew1: yes
21:34:07 <skeledrew1> !
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21:34:20 <skeledrew_work> k
21:34:27 <Mic> it's not possible to change the username before an account is created (here: replacing a character with an encoded character)?
21:34:52 <Mic> or will splitUsername  work no matter if there's splitting necessary or not?
21:35:22 <flo> are you trying to hide the XMPP resource? :)
21:35:43 <Mic> Not exactly
21:35:53 <flo> I'd like to do that on the facebook protocol plugin
21:36:19 <Mic> People log into StudiVZ (german Fakebook) using their email adress
21:36:35 <Mic> the at needs to be encoded as \40 for it to work
21:36:43 <Mic> *@
21:37:01 <Mic> I think if it could be automated then it should be..
21:37:24 <flo> so what's the XMPP id?
21:37:38 <flo> is the encoded @ part of the username?
21:37:59 <Mic> yes
21:38:16 <flo> so you have another @ after it with the studivz server?
21:38:25 <flo> are you trying to hide that part? :)
21:38:27 <Mic> it's "abc\40def.com@their-chat-server.de" then
21:39:03 <Mic> No, I try to replace @ in the username by the necessary \40
21:39:05 <flo> well, I don't if it's possible with the current bug, but if it's not, it's something we need to fix
21:39:14 <flo> +know
21:39:35 <Mic> Which bug?
21:39:45 <flo> s/bug/code/
21:39:46 <flo> sorry
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21:45:50 <flo> grrr, I hate that "offline bug" :(
21:48:07 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/9278a969d78c - Florian Quèze - Rename the 'popup' XUL elemnts used for context menus to 'menupopup' to have the correct style applied.
21:48:08 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/7ad3e2014c34 - Florian Quèze - Fix for compatibility after the removal of the 'active' attribute (bug 508482).
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22:15:10 <Mic> uuid
22:15:19 <Mic> instantbot: uuid
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22:31:46 <Amfi> Good evening :)
22:32:06 <Mic> evening
22:32:33 <flo> the GPS on that android phone is both great and scary
22:32:54 <Amfi> As the webpage has changed, have you thought about its translation?
22:33:00 <flo> Google knows where I am and can display a photo of my house with a blinking arrow above it :-S
22:33:35 <flo> Amfi: making it translatable is a high priority project for Instantbird 0.3
22:33:37 <Amfi> flo: one of disadvantage of living in a developed country!
22:33:53 <Amfi> Great, I'm glad to read that! :)
22:34:02 <flo> Amfi: I'm 10 kilometers away from the nearest city. It's *not* a developed area ;)
22:35:30 <Amfi> When I'm trying to locate my house in Poland, I just get a blurry image...
22:36:28 <flo> that's what it has been here for years
22:37:06 <flo> they fixed it a few months ago, and even included street view for the "major" streets of the village (I'm 1.5km away from the center of the village, so no street view here)
22:38:04 <Amfi> Hah, nice. France got a priority, then ;)
22:38:15 <Mic> Don't worry
22:38:20 <Mic> Google's not evil
22:41:52 <flo> well, google knows my current position, but doesn't know the name of the street! :-P
23:06:56 <Mic> It seems that status change events like to occur in groups :S
23:08:42 <Mic> The probability that 4 out of 5 online people have a status change within a fraction of a second is quite low (just happened)
23:08:52 <Mic> Good night
23:11:13 <flo> good night
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