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00:23:11 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 00:42:33 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 01:11:18 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 01:12:58 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 01:16:14 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 01:16:43 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: get satisfied! :: www.unitedservers.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 01:40:11 <clokep> Splitter working for vertical tabs! :) 01:40:37 <skeledrew> :) 01:40:43 <skeledrew> nice! 01:44:03 <clokep> Just need to play with the styling a bit, but it works. 01:50:36 <skeledrew> k 01:51:19 <skeledrew> what's the minimum the splitter can minimize the tabs to? 01:51:24 <clokep> Nothing. 01:51:34 <clokep> that's how I role. ;) 01:51:40 <skeledrew> nice 01:51:55 <skeledrew> i'm going for an icons only view :) 01:52:05 <clokep> Haha. 01:52:35 <clokep> I've done some prelim work on my buddy icons as the tabs... 01:52:53 <skeledrew> cool 01:53:25 <skeledrew> VT's goona be the ultimate addon ;) 01:54:02 <clokep> :) 02:05:49 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 02:09:08 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 02:10:38 <-- micahg has quit (Connection reset by peer) 02:10:41 --> micahg1 has joined #instantbird 02:10:47 * Gizmokid2005 is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK 02:10:50 * micahg1 is now known as micahg 02:24:38 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 02:48:42 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 03:05:35 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 03:32:23 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 04:02:01 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 04:12:42 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 04:32:38 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 05:19:59 <-- Tonnes has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8pre/20100719042328]) 05:58:29 * Gizmokid2005|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK|AFK 06:44:45 --> tymerkaev-afk has joined #instantbird 06:45:13 * tymerkaev-afk is now known as tymerkaev 07:19:16 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 07:21:27 <-- testib has quit (Ping timeout) 08:21:04 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Client exited) 08:25:49 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 08:55:26 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 09:09:14 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 09:31:14 <Mic> hello 09:39:36 --> flo has joined #instantbird 09:39:36 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 09:39:53 <flo> Good morning :) 09:40:30 --> testib has joined #instantbird 09:59:13 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 10:38:26 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 11:26:48 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 11:26:50 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 11:34:25 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 12:09:15 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 12:10:20 <clokep> Good morning! 12:13:05 <Mic> welcome 12:14:19 * clokep just heard the AOL "Welcome" voice in his head. 12:15:39 <flo> lol 12:20:56 <Mic> btw ... 12:21:07 <Mic> ... You've .. got .. mail. ;) 12:33:13 * Gizmokid2005|AFK|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK 12:33:19 * Gizmokid2005|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005 12:34:44 <clokep> I did have mail. ;) But nothing "real". 12:36:42 * flo has made some changes on http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/ 12:37:24 <clokep> Ah it looks good again. :) 12:38:19 <clokep> Not to be picky but shouldn't 0.1 0.1.1 0.1.2 0.1.2.1 be moved to releases? 12:38:40 <flo> that would break all the hard links 12:39:08 <flo> I'm looking for a way to make them appear "moved" in the listing, but have both the old and new URLs work 12:39:14 <clokep> The ones on the site or are you worried about external ones? 12:39:40 <clokep> Physically move them and then use a redirect in apache to go from 0.1 to releases/0.1? 12:40:23 <flo> I was thinking about symbolic links (so that it works with the ftp protocol too) 12:40:59 <clokep> Maybe, this is all a bit out of what I've ever done with an Apache configuration. :) 12:41:15 <Mic> Bug: the FAQ link from this page is broken 12:41:27 <Mic> Same for "About" 12:41:31 <Mic> Even: ping 12:41:49 <clokep> Yeah, they assume the ftp subdomain. 12:41:51 <flo> arg 12:42:07 <flo> I had already noticed the "index" link that doesn't work either ;) 12:42:49 <flo> hmm, the ftp server doesn't seem to work (anonymously) any more 12:59:39 <clokep> Yeah, prompted me for a password. 13:02:19 <Even> Mic: pong 13:03:11 <Mic> Are broken links on the website your field? 13:04:03 <Mic> There are some on the ftp-subdomain (FAQ, About, the logo pointing to index.html) 13:05:35 <flo> Mic: mine :) 13:06:11 <Mic> ok (sorry for disturbing you then) 13:06:13 <flo> the latest-trunk link that doesn't work anymore is in Even's field however ;) 13:14:54 <Even> That's not a problem :) 13:18:56 <flo> Even: you have a fix? :) 13:20:01 --> tymerkaev-afk has joined #instantbird 13:20:28 * tymerkaev-afk is now known as tymerkaev 13:27:42 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 13:31:03 <flo> hmm, maybe I can just put an index.html file in http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/ with a big nightly logo and a big release logo 13:31:09 <flo> that will hide everything else :) 13:32:34 <clokep> flo: on http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/ that link then goes to http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/index.html :( 13:32:40 <clokep> etc. 13:36:24 <flo> fixed! 13:37:17 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 13:41:45 <Mic> :) 13:42:59 <flo> Even: what do you think of enabling major update from 0.1.2 and 0.1.3 to 0.2 today? 14:03:45 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 14:41:02 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 14:51:13 <flo> http://www.instantbird.com/update-0.2.html the mini page for the major update prompt 14:52:22 <clokep> "Preferences & other new tools." --> "New preferences & other tools."? 14:52:42 <flo> the preference window didn't exist on these versions 14:54:07 <flo> I have 11 installed versions of Instantbird on my mac + a few debug builds 14:54:21 <flo> I guess my Applications folder could use some cleanup :) 14:54:24 <clokep> Oh, I see. 14:54:49 <clokep> Hmm..."New preference window & other tools."? :P I'm not sure what you're trying to get at in that statement I guess. 14:55:08 <flo> I'm trying to get them to click "Download update" ;) 14:55:24 <flo> if you are on nightlies, you have probably seen http://www.instantbird.com/update-0.3a1pre.html instead 14:57:53 <clokep> Yeah I don't really read those I just hit update. :P 14:58:00 <clokep> I recognize the look of the Window by now. 14:58:47 <clokep> "Hundreds of themes for your Instantbird!" --> "Hundreds of themes and add-ons for you to choose!" or something. 15:01:31 <instantbot> New Websites - buildbot bug 452 filed by email@example.com. 15:01:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=452 maj, --, ---, raynaudquentin, NEW, latest-<version> links no longer working since the new buildbot configuration is used 15:02:30 <clokep> And what are the "other tools" with the preferences? 15:02:52 <flo> I don't know 15:02:58 <flo> :-D 15:04:06 <flo> if you can sum up the release notes in 3 cool sentences, I'm likely to use them ;) 15:05:35 <clokep> Let me take a look. :P 15:06:25 <clokep> Redesigned conversation window and visual refresh. 15:06:52 <clokep> New preference window, status changing and log viewer. 15:07:10 <clokep> Hundreds of themes and extensions for you to choose from! 15:07:18 <instantbot> firstname.lastname@example.org changed the Resolution on bug 282 from FIXED to DUPLICATE. 15:07:25 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=282 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, Instantbird "latest-trunk" version on ftp show 0.2b2pre nightly builds 15:10:04 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 15:18:30 <clokep> flo: Those are my three ideas. ;) 15:24:21 <flo> You have stuffed 2 ideas per line ;) 15:27:15 <clokep> You asked for 3 sentences not ideas. :) 15:27:59 <flo> preference or preferences? 15:28:05 <-- micahg has quit (NickServ (GHOST command used by micahg1)) 15:28:07 --> micahg1 has joined #instantbird 15:28:16 * micahg1 is now known as micahg 15:31:20 <clokep> flo: I'm not sure. 15:32:15 <flo> clokep: http://googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=preference+window&word2=preferences+window 15:32:21 <clokep> Might want to say "New options window, status changing and log viewer." Actually. 15:32:41 <clokep> Since "preference" really refers to the Mozilla method of storing stuff. 15:32:56 <clokep> Fair enough. :) 15:33:02 <flo> "for you to choose from" or "for your customization pleasure"? :) 15:34:48 <clokep> Well definitely not "for you to choose from", I'd say "for you to choose" or "for customization" 15:35:15 <flo> to make it your own 15:35:31 <Mic> Create your own Instantbird with hundreds of .... 15:36:47 * flo removes the "from" and decides that's enough bikeshed for today 15:37:26 <Mic> flo: sorry for interrupting, but before I forget it, I'd like to bring these two to your attention: https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=444&mark=4#c4 https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=445&mark=2#c2 15:38:33 <flo> http://www.instantbird.com/update-0.2.html 15:39:20 <flo> Mic: either a server or libpurple issue. 15:39:39 <flo> we may ask that user to try a nightly once we have upgraded libpurple on trunk 15:40:03 <Mic> "Free Upgrade" sounds like there might non-free cases 15:40:06 <flo> if that doesn't help, I'm afraid there's nothing we can do to help him 15:41:17 * flo downloads Instantbird 0.1.2 15:41:20 <clokep> I (personally) know the user from bug 445, I don't remember exactly what his problem was. I was thinking of having him destroy the profile and start over, see if it helps. 15:41:25 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=445 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Buddy list loads, but doesn't show 15:42:23 <clokep> Just a note: I assume most nightly testers are always on a "dirty" profile, so it'd be kind of easy for a bug to slip by if it requires a new profile. 15:42:36 <clokep> (i.e. a bug in creatinga new account.) 15:42:54 <flo> wow, 0.1.2 seems so old when trying it :) 15:43:34 <flo> groups weren't collapsible yet! 15:44:12 <flo> libpurple 2.4.3 15:44:30 <clokep> Wow. 15:44:49 <flo> no "Get addons" pane in the add-on manager 15:45:36 <flo> grrr, no "check for updates" menuitem 15:45:42 <flo> and no JS console either 15:47:21 <clokep> You're testing major update? 15:47:59 <clokep> So...Windows users that are given a major update won't be asked to use the installer sitll, right? That's unfortunate. 15:49:26 <flo> why? 15:51:09 <flo> http://queze.net/goinfre/major-update-0.1.2.png :( 15:54:02 <flo> http://queze.net/goinfre/major-update-0.1.2-2.png better 15:54:05 <clokep> That's unfortunate. :( 15:54:44 <clokep> Seems to be a bit of a margin at the top? 15:55:17 <flo> the update works! :) 15:55:25 <clokep> Awesome. :) 16:05:01 <flo> ahem 16:05:18 * flo tried Instantbird 0.1.3 on Windows to test the update and... it crashed at startup :( 16:05:38 <Mic> try safemode :P 16:05:47 * flo submits crashreport 16:05:57 <flo> Mic: not needed. We have the anti-crash thing ;) 16:06:09 <Mic> The anti-crash thing? 16:06:42 <flo> http://blog.instantbird.org/a21-stability.html 16:06:58 <flo> the "Crash detection and protection" part 16:17:00 <flo> ah, my startup crash is known 16:17:06 <flo> It's QQ 16:17:19 <flo> that's even the reason why we have never updated 0.1.2 users to 0.1.3 16:19:01 <flo> same on Windows : http://queze.net/goinfre/major-update-0.1.3.1-windows.png 16:37:10 --> detroitlibertype has joined #instantbird 16:37:29 <detroitlibertype> wow! the new IB download is huge! 16:37:38 <flo> uh? 16:37:43 <-- detroitlibertype has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 16:39:22 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 16:48:32 <flo> going home 16:48:38 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 16:50:26 <-- testib has quit (Ping timeout) 17:24:59 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 17:41:33 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 18:31:12 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 18:31:12 * ChanServ sets mode +o idechix 18:40:21 --> Ryszard_Jeziorski has joined #instantbird 18:40:41 * Ryszard_Jeziorski is now known as Rysik 18:45:40 <Mic> welcome Rysik 18:45:52 <Rysik> Hi 18:46:26 <Mic> Do you need some help or do you just want to drop in to see what's going on? :) 18:47:05 <Rysik> I just installed Instantbird. It looks cool. 18:47:31 <Rysik> but ... 18:47:42 <Mic> That's good to hear, are there any things you like especially or some things you are missing? 18:48:07 <Rysik> I can't import contacts from GaduGadu. 18:49:14 <Mic> hmm, we have a bug on such a problem in the bugtracking system 18:50:16 <Mic> I have no idea how that usually works (as I've never used GaduGadu myself) 18:51:13 <Mic> if you want to add a comment to the (pretty old) bug, then it is here: 18:51:15 <Mic> https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37 18:51:18 <instantbot> Bug 37 maj, P5, ---, florian, UNCO, Gadu-Gadu list not loaded on connect 18:51:25 <Mic> Maybe it helps getting it fixed 18:51:46 <tymerkaev> Who's Rysik? 18:52:27 <Rysik> Gadu-Gadu work's only in Poland. I hate this messanger, but many people use it. 18:53:07 <Rysik> Just InstantBird user :) 18:53:25 <clokep> Rysik: Are there an errors in the error console? (Tools > Error Console) 18:55:51 <Rysik> No errors. 18:56:11 <Mic> I need to go 18:56:31 <clokep> Bye Mic. 18:56:47 <Mic> Rysik: feel free to come back any time if you need support or would like to give some feedback :) 18:56:52 <clokep> Rysik: I'm not sure that's good or bad that there's no errors. ;) 18:56:55 <Mic> clokep: bye 19:02:03 <Rysik> O God! I learn English from Internet and Movies, and I still have problems with writting. :) 19:03:05 <Rysik> Do you use GaduGadu plugin from Pidgin? 19:03:25 <clokep> I think it uses the libpurple plugin, yes. 19:03:59 <clokep> Does Pidgin have trouble downloading the contact list? 19:04:40 <Rysik> I will check it. Wait a while. 19:09:04 <clokep> That'll help us identify whether its a libpurple plugin (i.e. the Pidgin Gadu-Gadu plugin) or an Instantbird problem. 19:15:43 <Rysik> There is a command in Pidgin's menu: Accounts -> Gadu Gadu -> Download buddylist from Server. Download works OK. 19:16:32 --> testib has joined #instantbird 19:16:44 --> flo has joined #instantbird 19:16:44 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 19:19:14 <clokep> Hey flo, Rysik is having a problem downloading buddy list on Gadu-Gadu (a la bug 37), any ideas? 19:19:18 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37 maj, P5, ---, florian, UNCO, Gadu-Gadu list not loaded on connect 19:21:25 <flo> I know the gadu-gadu plugin has been significantly changed in newer versions of libpurple, so it may help to try once our nightlies get the latest libpurple 19:25:03 <flo> uh, a command to download the buddy list? (just read the log) 19:31:05 <Rysik> Maybe the plugin don't do buddies download... 19:31:50 <Mic> It said something similiar on the old bug report 19:32:15 <Mic> I just have absolutely no idea how it works so I couldn't judge it's value 19:32:17 <Mic> *its 19:32:53 <Mic> well, bye again 19:32:59 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 19:44:11 <-- FishFace has quit (Quit: Leaving) 19:51:18 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 20:01:14 <-- SM0TVI has quit (Quit: Hi. I'm a quit message virus. Add me to your configuration file, and help me take over the world of IRC.) 20:01:58 <Rysik> I did some research. There is a file: buddylist.c in source of Pidgin (/libpurple/protocols/gg). Maybe it helps. 20:12:26 --> SM0TVI has joined #instantbird 20:23:48 <Rysik> There is an interesting function: void ggp_buddylist_load(PurpleConnection *gc, char *buddylist) :) 20:27:53 <flo> are you using lxr to explore the code? 20:28:19 <Rysik> What is lxr? 20:28:28 <flo> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/libpurple/protocols/gg/buddylist.c#77 20:28:35 <flo> a search engine to look for things in the code 20:28:48 <flo> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/ 20:30:38 <Rysik> I looked in source code of Pidgin. 20:37:06 <flo> I'd like some help to test the major update on Windows. 20:37:53 <flo> it has failed in 2 different ways on my 2 Windows virtual machine... and as I'm usually *very* unlucky with anything that involves Windows... it doesn't mean much. 20:41:49 <clokep> flo: I can do it tonight if you need me to, I won't be home until 8:30ish here. which is...3 hr, 3 min from now. 20:41:52 <clokep> *30 min 20:44:43 <clokep> From 0.1.2 or 0.1.3 or from both? I can test on Win 7 and Win 7 x64. 20:45:03 <flo> from 0.1.3.1 to 0.2 20:45:21 --> MicTest has joined #instantbird 20:45:36 <clokep> OK. Anything special I need to do or just download 0.1.3.1 and "Check for updates"? 20:45:54 <flo> that's enough :) 20:46:03 <-- MicTest has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 20:46:08 <clokep> Alright. I'll leave a message in here. 20:46:13 <clokep> Unless you prefer an email. 20:46:27 <flo> I've tested it successfully on both Mac and Linux 20:47:42 <clokep> What's the failure mode you're getting? The update won't apply or is this going to like crash my computer and wipe my drive? ;) 20:49:51 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 20:50:11 <flo> on the first VM, there's an error message while applying the update that says "please check you don't have another instance of Instantbird running", you press OK, it restarts instantbird, which detects there's an already downloaded update to apply, which does it, and... same error 20:50:28 <flo> basically you get in a loop of installing the update/error message/... 20:50:36 <-- Rysik has quit (Ping timeout) 20:50:37 <clokep> Mmhmm. 20:51:24 <flo> on the second VM, different problem: the update succeeds, but way too quickly to be "real". And when Instantbird restarts, I only have a window title bar with an icon (not even a title in the title bar) in the middle of the screen 20:51:47 <flo> if I close it the buddy list appears, but it's only a frame of the buddy list, there's no content 20:52:07 <flo> ah, the account manager too, no content either 20:52:23 <flo> it seems I'm still on 0.1.3 after the update, but with big parts of the framework being broken 20:52:48 <clokep> I'll check it out. 20:53:50 <flo> the update.log is has been different on each attempt :-/ 20:57:44 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 20:57:48 <clokep> OK. I lied. 20:57:56 <clokep> I'm going to be home at 5:30, not enough people to play frisbee today. :( 21:00:40 --> Mic0131 has joined #instantbird 21:00:58 <Mic0131> I get the "other copies running" error as well 21:01:07 <Mic0131> Windows XP SP3 here 21:02:06 <Mic0131> I loads 0.1.3.1 normally though 21:02:12 <Mic0131> *It 21:02:32 <flo> is there a meaningful error message in updates/0/update.log ? 21:06:02 <Mic0131> There's lots of "failed to open or stat" 21:06:20 <clokep> heading out. 21:06:25 <flo> I don't know if that's expected or not :-( 21:06:25 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 21:06:46 <Mic0131> Mine is the latest pastebin 21:06:56 <Mic0131> ie http://pastebin.instantbird.com/307 21:07:31 <flo> It looks exactly like what I have in my 2nd attempt on my 2nd VM 21:07:56 <flo> I've no idea of what "failed: 7" is supposed to mean 21:08:13 <Mic0131> The only line who looks drastically different is line 764 21:08:19 <Mic0131> "### execution failed" 21:08:31 <Mic0131> (and the one you already mentioned) 21:09:34 <Mic0131> flo: maybe we should just ask some Mozilla people? 21:09:45 <flo> I have this: 21:09:45 <flo> EXECUTE PATCH chrome\toolkit.jar 21:09:46 <flo> copy_file: failed to write: 28 21:09:46 <flo> ### execution failed 21:10:10 <flo> Mic0131: yeah. Do you know where the people who know the update system are? 21:10:25 <flo> I'm not sure if there's a #update or #aus channel 21:10:30 <Mic0131> #developers maybe? 21:10:51 <Mic0131> Wait a minute 21:11:02 <Mic0131> How did you try to update? 21:11:04 <Mic0131> With a new profile? 21:11:19 <flo> no 21:11:23 * Mic0131 neither 21:11:32 <flo> I don't see how that matters 21:11:36 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 21:11:38 <flo> the update is profile-independent 21:12:41 <Mic0131> Completely? 21:13:36 <Mic0131> well, trying anyways 21:13:37 <flo> some preferences that can be set (in the profile) can influence which update is donwloaded 21:13:45 <flo> but applying it is profile-independent 21:13:49 <Mic0131> yeah, the update channel 21:14:00 <flo> and the update url ;) 21:14:20 <-- Mic0131 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.1.3.1) 21:15:12 --> Mic0131 has joined #instantbird 21:15:20 <-- Mic0131 has quit (Quit: Mic0131) 21:17:01 <flo> my error log is too big for pastebin 21:19:13 <flo> I've removed some repetitions of the same thing, and now I can pastebin it and see the end: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/309 21:19:59 --> Mic0131 has joined #instantbird 21:20:20 <Mic0131> ok, partial update failed, full update downloaded and successfully applied 21:20:32 <flo> oh, "cool". 21:20:39 <flo> that seems a bit random though, doesn't it? 21:20:59 <Mic0131> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/310 21:21:11 <Mic0131> I've got this error message in the mean time and had a crash report submitted 21:21:55 <flo> was this on 0.1.3 or 0.2? (the crash) 21:22:42 <Mic0131> on 0.1.3 21:22:49 <Mic0131> The update was downloaded after it 21:23:26 <Mic0131> brb 21:23:29 <-- Mic0131 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 21:23:44 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 21:24:30 * flo tries the complete update (I forced the partial to fail "cleanly") 21:27:14 --> Mic0131 has joined #instantbird 21:27:30 <flo> this time I get the "make sure no other copy is running" error :( 21:27:51 <-- Mic0131 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.1.3.1) 21:28:04 <Mic> Trying again 21:28:53 <Mic> "no other copy" error :( 21:30:38 <flo> it seems Windows 0.1.3.1 users will have to update by hand 21:32:14 <Mic> I've tried again 21:32:23 <Mic> and diff'ed the update.logs 21:33:09 --> Mic0131 has joined #instantbird 21:34:05 <Mic> There was a difference even though I can't tell why 21:34:43 <Mic> Some of the "failed to open or stat" error were gone (only that, no new ones appeared) 21:35:00 <flo> that looks random to me :( 21:35:27 <Mic> Yes, since I haven't done anything different this time 21:35:45 <Mic> from the first attempt 21:36:09 <Mic> (the old nickname colors hurt the eyes btw ;) 21:36:24 <flo> ahah 21:36:34 <flo> attempting to use 0.1.2 is even better ;) 21:36:41 <flo> maybe I should try 0.1.1 and 0.1! 21:37:10 <Mic> don't tell me the 0.1.3 colors very actually an improvement? ;) 21:37:24 <instantbot> Just appeared in Blog@instantbird.org - http://blog.instantbird.org/ : 21:37:25 <instantbot> http://blog.instantbird.org/n26-tip-for-macbook-users.html - Tip for MacBook users 21:37:33 <flo> one version had no nicklist and no color 21:37:35 <flo> maybe 0.1.1 21:37:43 <flo> I don't think 0.1 was able to join chats 21:40:06 <-- Mic0131 has left #instantbird () 21:40:11 <Mic> ending the pain .. 21:45:20 <Mic> Does the ftp site show properly for you? 21:45:27 <Mic> For me the fons looks broken 21:45:31 <Mic> *font 21:47:34 <flo> I'll fix that tomorrow 21:47:59 <Mic> https://wiki.instantbird.org/images/2/25/Broken_font%2C_ftp_site_screenshot_2.png 21:48:21 <Mic> Make sure to zoom it to real size 21:48:24 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 21:48:48 <flo> the fun when testing with 0.1.2 is that there's no "check for updates button" :) 21:49:32 <flo> Mic: I'm not sure how you end up with that 21:50:00 <Mic> I added the screenshot of the FAQ as well 21:50:12 <flo> the file of the fonts are not at the right place so Firefox probably hits a 404 error, but it should fallback to a system font, and... you seem to have a very uggly font on your system :-D 21:50:12 <Mic> It was another tab opened at the same time .. 21:50:58 <Mic> haha :S 21:52:28 <-- idechix has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 21:55:26 <flo> 0.1.2 -> 0.2 works perfectly 21:56:26 <Mic> hmm, looks much better with cleartype rendering for fonts :D 21:56:57 <clokep> Updater is running... 21:58:38 <clokep> Do you want to see my log? 21:58:42 <clokep> (It failed.) 21:59:51 <flo> failed differently than our previous failures? :) 22:00:00 <clokep> It was looping the same way. 22:00:06 <clokep> the update.log has a bunch of failed to remove files in it. 22:00:51 <flo> I guess we will have to give up on the idea of updating Windows 0.1.3.1 users :( 22:03:46 <clokep> http://blog.mozilla.com/ted/2010/07/22/mozillabuild-1-5/ 22:03:52 <clokep> If someone missed it. ;) 22:05:44 <flo> maybe our bug is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=523915 22:06:53 <flo> in this case... I suppose the more non-existant files we try to remove, the more likely we are to fail in obscure (random) ways 22:07:16 <clokep> Mmhmm. 22:07:25 <clokep> I had a string of like 40 files probably that didn't exist. 22:08:37 <flo> it's "normal" to attempt to remove files that don't exist 22:09:04 <flo> the update doesn't know which version you had previously, so it tries to remove all the files that used to exist in some version we have released at some point 22:09:26 <clokep> Ah i see. 22:09:56 <flo> I'm not sure the way it fails on them is normal though 22:11:21 <Mic> good night 22:16:40 <flo> good night! :) 22:17:10 <clokep> 'night. 22:22:56 <Mic> flo: I think we should put the "authorization request" on the list for the next release (if it's not already there) .. in my opinion this dialog is close to unusable right now 22:23:26 <flo> which one? 22:23:36 <flo> the one to request it or to reply to it? 22:23:40 <flo> both are terrible :-/ 22:26:46 <Mic> The reply is even worse 22:26:54 <Mic> And that's the one I meant 22:28:15 * flo feels the temptation to add tons of stuff in that 0.3 roadmap coming ;) 22:32:11 <Mic> is there a wip-list? 22:32:37 <flo> work in progress? 22:32:41 <flo> not yet 22:33:13 <flo> I'm still working on finishing the details around the 0.2 release 22:34:27 <flo> making sure all the parts of our websites are stored in hg repositories, boring stuff like that 22:39:10 <clokep> But that's good cause then we can submit patches. ;) 22:39:36 <flo> yeah 22:39:51 <flo> I'm trying to "fix" the details were we waste time repeatedly 22:53:44 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 23:51:42 <clokep> Just upload Vertical Tabs 0.3 with resizable tabs.