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00:23:38 <-- FishFace has quit (Quit: Leaving) 00:33:32 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 00:41:17 --> patrickjdempsey has joined #instantbird 00:56:34 <-- patrickjdempsey has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 00:59:54 --> FishFace has joined #instantbird 01:04:32 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 01:05:32 <-- skeledrew1 has quit (Ping timeout) 01:06:06 <skeledrew> ping 01:08:08 <hicham> @ping 01:08:13 <hicham> !ping 01:08:17 <hicham> *ping 01:08:29 <skeledrew> ??? 01:08:51 <skeledrew> what's my name? 01:10:04 <hicham> Andrew Phillips 01:10:21 <skeledrew> huh?!? 01:10:37 <skeledrew> i meant nickname! 01:11:00 <skeledrew> hicham: you using my theme? 01:11:44 <hicham> which theme ? 01:11:57 <skeledrew> guess not 01:12:05 <skeledrew> so how'd you know my name? 01:12:22 <hicham> you are famous 01:12:30 <skeledrew> oh? 01:12:31 <skeledrew> for? 01:12:36 <skeledrew> lol 01:12:52 <hicham> http://www.google.co.ma/search?q=skeledrew&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a 01:13:30 <ibbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 450 filed by pjdkrunkt@lycos.com. 01:13:32 <ibbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=450 enh, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Use arrowscrollbox buttons to notify of unread messages in tab overflow mode. 01:14:00 <skeledrew> wow 01:14:08 <skeledrew> i hate google 01:14:32 <hicham> and google loves celebrities 01:14:47 <skeledrew> i'm no celeb 01:16:42 <skeledrew> damn. first 3 pages... 01:17:02 <hicham> you are a celeb if google knows you 01:17:25 <skeledrew> sometimes i wonder if having a 100% unique nickname is a good or bad thing... 01:18:08 <skeledrew> i'll have to take extra precautions not to get phisjed 01:18:14 <skeledrew> *phished 01:18:25 <hicham> it is good to be easily reachable 01:18:34 <skeledrew> how so? 01:18:39 <hicham> but bad if you plan to do some terrorist attacks 01:18:46 <hicham> :D 01:18:46 <skeledrew> lol 01:18:54 <skeledrew> nah 01:18:54 <skeledrew> not me 01:19:41 <hicham> what is your theme ? 01:19:42 <skeledrew> i've been carrying this nickname since i started high school :) 01:20:01 <skeledrew> Pidgin smileys 01:20:34 <hicham> irc still lacks some functionalities in IB 01:20:44 <hicham> but overall, IB looks great 01:20:45 <skeledrew> i think i'll have to add some control code to make it smarter though 01:21:34 <skeledrew> hicham: yeah. but i hate seeing smileys i don't know in text form. esp the MSN ones 01:22:19 <skeledrew> i gotta copyright my name 01:22:30 <hicham> skeledrew(TM) 01:22:33 <skeledrew> how many people in this world can actually be googled :D 01:22:44 <skeledrew> hehe 01:22:55 <hicham> a lot 01:23:15 <skeledrew> no. i mean uniquely, and not conflict with anyone else 01:23:26 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout) 01:23:28 <hicham> only you 01:24:06 <skeledrew> lol. i strongly believe there's noone else in this world with that as a nickname... 01:24:20 <skeledrew> (am i conceited?) 01:24:53 <hicham> yes, so if someone succeed in stealing your identity, you will be in big trouble 01:25:15 <skeledrew> that's what i'm worried about 01:25:31 <skeledrew> being "famous" has it's cons 01:26:12 <skeledrew> i'm on sites i don't even recognize 01:26:28 <skeledrew> yet i remember the text as being typed by me 01:26:38 <hicham> if someone uploads a theme insulting the white house using you name to AIO, flo will deliver you to the nearest police station :D 01:27:02 <skeledrew> I DIDN'T DO IT!!! 01:27:04 <skeledrew> lol 01:28:18 <skeledrew> damn some of these sites swiped my tweets! 01:28:35 <hicham> you are in real danger 01:28:49 <hicham> :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D 01:29:08 <hicham> :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D 01:29:15 <skeledrew> i don't see a missile 01:29:25 <hicham> chatzilla is good at displaying smileys 01:30:17 <skeledrew> hmm. maybe i'll investigate it's cache and setup... 01:31:29 <hicham> i am using the xulrunner version 01:31:58 <skeledrew> no FF binding? 01:32:04 <hicham> no 01:32:08 <skeledrew> k 01:32:11 <hicham> it is standalone 01:32:17 <skeledrew> nice 01:32:47 <hicham> and i want to finish tray support for it too 01:32:55 <skeledrew> k 01:33:21 <hicham> i remarked most devs work on windows 01:35:51 <skeledrew> damnit. i better setup my privacy on Fb 01:37:45 <hicham> what ? 01:38:17 <skeledrew> my Facebook privacy... 01:38:42 <skeledrew> not sure how much i want to leak out of that... 01:39:23 <skeledrew> i might even be compromising others 01:40:20 <-- skeledrew has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 01:41:56 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 01:43:22 <skeledrew> this better be the last time i accidentally close IB... 01:53:29 <-- hicham has quit (Quit: اÙسÙا٠عÙÙÙÙ ) 01:53:46 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 01:54:22 <-- hicham has quit (Quit: اÙسÙا٠عÙÙÙÙ ) 01:54:38 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 01:54:50 <-- hicham has quit (Quit: اÙسÙا٠عÙÙÙÙ ) 01:58:11 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 02:05:15 <-- rdm0 has left #instantbird () 02:31:53 --> patrickjdempsey has joined #instantbird 03:05:15 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 03:09:21 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 03:42:52 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: get satisfied! :: www.unitedservers.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 03:44:39 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 03:48:05 --> DGMurdock has joined #instantbird 03:49:18 <-- FishFace has quit (Quit: Leaving) 03:59:00 <clokep> skeledrew: If it makes you feel better this username isn't unique to me, but my other one is and Google has about 5k results for it. :( 04:00:01 <patrickjdempsey> My name gets 14K on a slow day. ;) 04:00:51 <clokep> Way to brag. ;) 04:01:43 <skeledrew> hmm 04:01:45 <patrickjdempsey> actually that's just for my screen name, if you put in my full name you well over 600k... so i'm honestly surprised when people actually find ME online lol 04:02:03 <clokep> Oh, but they're not just you? 04:02:11 <clokep> I mean 5k of actually me... 04:02:19 <skeledrew> wow 04:02:25 <patrickjdempsey> hahaaha, nah, mostly grey's anatomy lol 04:02:52 <patrickjdempsey> how long have you had that screen name? 04:03:01 <skeledrew> clokep: well you have been on the scene for a while i guess 04:04:00 <clokep> My personal screenname I've used since Middle School. I just picked this one up about a year ago. I use it only for Mozilla stuff. 04:04:16 <clokep> (Helps me keep my stuff organized. Nothing really to do with privacy.) 04:04:35 <skeledrew> k 04:04:41 <DGMurdock> 2(clokep2): is this yours http://code.google.com/p/thundershows/issues/list 04:04:50 <clokep> Yes. 04:05:10 <clokep> DGMurdock: That was my first extension I ever released to the public. 04:05:35 <clokep> And you can get to all my extensions from that account. :P 04:05:43 <DGMurdock> i actally used that before 04:05:50 <DGMurdock> it very good 04:06:05 <DGMurdock> i wish you would update it 04:06:11 <clokep> Hahah, that's pretty awesome. 04:06:17 <clokep> I use a site now.... http://on-my.tv 04:06:27 <clokep> It lets you filter on site, then has an iCal feed you can use. 04:06:32 <clokep> (Its the site I always got the data from.) 04:06:59 <clokep> It was disheartening to me cause he kept changing his XML feed schema without telling me (and he knew I depended on it for my extensions since I had asked for some extra fields, etc.) 04:07:02 <DGMurdock> but there missing stuff 04:07:20 <clokep> It was the same data though, if they're missing it then I was missing it. :) 04:07:31 <clokep> Granted you can't use regexp patterns like you could in my extension. ;) 04:08:52 <DGMurdock> it is pritty good but is there a way to contact them of a few mission shows 04:09:06 <clokep> He always responded very quickly to my emails... 04:09:13 <clokep> And there's an IRC chat. 04:09:25 * clokep didn't realize anyone besides myself actually used that extension. 04:09:39 <clokep> contact@on-my.tv 04:09:53 <DGMurdock> can you give me the irc channel 04:09:59 <DGMurdock> and server 04:10:19 <clokep> One second... 04:10:27 <clokep> irc://irc.efnet.net/tvcat 04:10:27 <DGMurdock> nvm got it 04:11:08 <DGMurdock> (00:11:00) * [10053] Software caused connection abort 04:11:16 <DGMurdock> when i joined that server 04:11:17 <clokep> I think I also occasionally get weird timezones from his ical feed, but not a huge deal. 04:11:33 <clokep> Generally I just want to know what days my shows are on so I know when they're on Hulu the next day. :) 04:12:02 <DGMurdock> yeah 04:14:42 * clokep is switching computers. 04:14:46 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 04:14:57 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 04:15:12 <clokep> I love just moving a profile over and being able to re-run Mozilla applications. :) 04:15:15 <skeledrew> clokep: got your laptop? 04:15:32 <clokep> Yes, trying to transfer files right now...Thudnerbird profile is taking a long time over the network. :( 04:15:52 <clokep> And Haven't transfered my logs yet cause there's a billion files and it takes a long time. :P 04:15:55 <skeledrew> sounds like you have POP3 setup 04:16:03 <skeledrew> lol 04:16:23 <skeledrew> setup a sync and run it in the background 04:16:39 <clokep> I have...4 IMAP accounts, 1 NNTP account, 4 RSS feeds, 2 POP3 accounts I think? 04:16:40 <skeledrew> compress everything 04:16:43 <clokep> I might be missing one or two. 04:17:08 <clokep> 3 POP3 accounts. :) 04:17:13 <skeledrew> man. you're seriously loaded... 04:17:25 <clokep> I like to very physically separate my email. 04:17:41 <clokep> + school + work, etc. all have separate accounts... 04:18:20 * clokep is going to give Firefox Sync a try. 04:18:37 <skeledrew> oh 04:19:20 <skeledrew> i recently switched to GMail as my main. love the filtering options (better than Yahoo) 04:19:48 <DGMurdock> http://www.tvrage.com/Haven 04:19:54 <skeledrew> but i still want more power options... 04:20:47 <DGMurdock> thunderbird? 04:20:51 <DGMurdock> spicebird 04:22:32 <skeledrew> i prefer most of my stuff in the clouds 04:22:53 <clokep> I prefer as much as possible off the cloud. 04:23:03 <skeledrew> lol 04:23:23 <skeledrew> i'm too short on disk space 04:23:31 <clokep> Understandbale. 04:23:34 <clokep> *Understandable. 04:23:55 <clokep> And I don't know too much about SpiceBird, seemed kind of sketchy last time I looked at it. 04:24:15 <DGMurdock> spicebird 04:24:21 <DGMurdock> is way better now 04:24:37 <skeledrew> first time i setup TB and just started a sync, it ran for the 512MB mark pretty fast (no idea why) 04:25:02 <skeledrew> SpiceBird looks ok. never heard of it before now though 04:25:32 <DGMurdock> you shold give it a try 04:26:52 <clokep> What does it do beyond Thunderbird though? I know it has "collaboration" tools, but what does that mean? 04:27:15 <DGMurdock> calander 04:27:42 <DGMurdock> better contact mangment 04:29:30 <clokep> Thunderbird has Lightning. 04:31:58 <-- patrickjdempsey has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2) 04:32:15 <DGMurdock> did you try duck duck go 04:32:32 <clokep> No. I have nothing to search right now. :) 04:43:08 --> FishFace has joined #instantbird 04:43:16 <-- DGMurdock has quit (Quit: get satisfied! :: www.unitedservers.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 05:10:50 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 06:12:31 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 06:14:06 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 06:15:14 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 06:15:31 <Mic> Good morning 06:36:36 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 06:50:28 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 08:28:01 --> beigbeider has joined #instantbird 08:28:15 <beigbeider> Hello 08:32:26 <flo> hey :) 08:39:55 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 09:43:45 --> iLobster has joined #instantbird 09:43:52 <iLobster> Greetings 09:48:10 <iLobster> heh, stupid kids from overclockers.ru copied old text about release 1.3 and post it in news about 0.2: http://translate.google.ru/translate?hl=ru&ie=UTF-8&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://www.overclockers.ru/softnews/37966/Instantbird_0.2_-_novaya_versiya_otkrytogo_IM-klienta_na_baze_tehnologij_ot_Mozilla.html&prev=_t 09:48:39 <iLobster> "runet" is worstest part of internet 09:52:01 <flo> iLobster: hi :) 09:52:05 <flo> I've seen that 09:52:15 <flo> especially the part saying there are no options yet... :( 09:52:30 <flo> and they have a screenshot of the 0.1 about dialog 09:52:57 <flo> is it possible to contact them so they "fix" the article? 09:53:20 <flo> if so, you can offer them fresh screenshots from http://www.instantbird.com/press-images.html 09:53:26 <iLobster> yes, ant text about that instantbird can not display nicknames but only numbers 09:53:35 <flo> but for a Russian site it would be even better to screenshot the Russian version 09:53:36 <iLobster> i'm looking for it now 09:54:45 <iLobster> and, btw, is it possible somehow to make article in english wikipedia about Instantbird? 09:55:11 <flo> http://www.opennet.ru/openforum/vsluhforumID3/68807.html#70 is a bit better I think :) 09:55:26 <iLobster> russian wikipedia have article (outdated), but english wikiprdia do not have 09:55:42 <flo> iLobster: we used to have one, until a stupid kid wanting to show his power decided that it was a good idea to delete it 09:56:41 <iLobster> opennet.ru is good resource for mature users, overclockers.ru is trash resource for kids 09:56:52 <flo> there's a wikipedia policy somewhere stating that people making a company or software shouldn't write the article about it themselves, and that if other people don't take the time to make one, it's because the product is not notable enough 09:57:40 <flo> so I haven't tried to bring the article back myself 09:58:33 <flo> anybody doing so is welcome :) 09:59:18 <flo> iLobster: http://www.cwer.ru/node/176200/ has just copied parts of the website without even bothering with translating it :-D 10:00:50 <iLobster> flo: at least they are made it with proper screenshots and texts =) 10:01:18 <flo> yes, they have Russian screenshots :) 10:05:34 <iLobster> i think that main problem with Instantbird in Russia is that the popularest IM service in Russia is ICQ, and libpurple have problems with ICQ and non-english messages (if someone send you message when you offline it will comes to you in unreadable format). Hope (greatly) that in this google summer of code that russian student will fix it 10:06:29 <iLobster> http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/GSoC2010/ImproveICQ 10:07:04 --> Even has joined #instantbird 10:07:04 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 10:10:22 <-- Even has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 10:10:32 --> Even has joined #instantbird 10:10:32 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 10:22:14 <iLobster> flo: well, i send letter to news maintainer of overclockers.ru, but I would not expect that anything will be fixed 10:29:42 <flo> thanks :) 10:29:55 <flo> and don't worry if it's not fixed. Nobody can do the impossible ;) 10:34:57 <-- iLobster has left #instantbird () 10:40:30 <-- Even has quit (Ping timeout) 10:42:21 --> Even has joined #instantbird 10:42:21 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 10:42:34 --> tymerkaev-afk has joined #instantbird 10:46:27 * tymerkaev-afk is now known as tymerkaev 10:50:17 --> goulagman has joined #instantbird 10:56:22 <-- Even has quit (Ping timeout) 10:57:17 <-- goulagman has quit (Ping timeout) 10:58:20 --> Even has joined #instantbird 10:58:20 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 11:00:27 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 11:20:12 --> iLobster has joined #instantbird 11:29:10 <-- iLobster has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 11:33:50 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 12:32:05 --> goulagman has joined #instantbird 12:35:04 <-- goulagman has quit (Ping timeout) 12:42:26 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 12:56:42 <beigbeider> \list 12:56:50 <beigbeider> !list 12:57:32 <skeledrew> beigbeider: /list 12:57:40 <skeledrew> not yet implemented 12:58:50 <beigbeider> Thank you. 12:59:00 <skeledrew> np 13:03:01 <Mic> beigbeider: On this network you can request the list from "chanserv" 13:03:21 <Mic> Try /msg chanserv list <pattern> 13:03:36 <Mic> where you replace pattern with something like 13:03:38 <Mic> a* 13:03:46 <Mic> to show all channels starting with an a 13:06:12 <skeledrew> Mic: cool :) 13:07:12 <skeledrew> Mic: why do i only get 50 of 232 results? 13:07:31 <Mic> No idea 13:07:33 <Mic> try the help 13:14:38 <beigbeider> It helped, but not convenient. 13:14:54 <beigbeider> :) 13:16:37 <skeledrew> just got 100% on a JS quiz :) 13:18:49 <Mic> beigbeider: what does /listdo differently? 13:19:18 <beigbeider> /listdo 13:19:21 <beigbeider> ? 13:19:47 <skeledrew> Mic: i think it gives you what chanserv does, but in the same convo 13:20:21 <Mic> beigbeider: what does /list do differently? 13:22:04 <flo> I think /list is implemented in libpurple, but uses a popup window in Pidgin 13:23:05 <skeledrew> hmm 13:23:20 * skeledrew s Pidgin 13:23:24 <flo> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/libpurple/protocols/irc/cmds.c#223 13:23:27 <skeledrew> *runs 13:23:57 <flo> I don't want libpurple protocol plugins (or any protocol plugin) to be able to interrupt the user with a popup window 13:24:35 <flo> this case is a bit different because the /list command is an explicit request from the user 13:24:47 <Mic> What about opening it in a new tab? 13:25:14 <skeledrew> chanserv already does that 13:25:31 <Mic> Chanserv is an extra service 13:25:33 <skeledrew> i guess you can just map the command to call chanserv... 13:25:40 <skeledrew> yeah 13:25:56 <flo> I guess for 0.3 we should make it easy to open arbitrary stuff (account manager, join chat, whatever...) in a tab 13:25:58 <skeledrew> damn. Pidgin's frozen already... 13:26:04 <flo> lol 13:26:16 <skeledrew> *sighs* 13:26:36 <skeledrew> that's why i had to switch... 13:28:08 * skeledrew kills the Pidgin process 13:28:31 <skeledrew> no way i'm waiting 15 minutes for it to get it's act together 13:35:10 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 13:41:34 <clokep> Mibbit has things like /whois, etc has like "drop down" notifications, kind of the way the topic is shown in Instantbird. 13:50:29 <clokep> Also, anyone know if there's a bug about participant not having a context menu? :) 13:50:52 <Mic> Might be included in rework conversation window 13:51:02 <clokep> The article? 13:51:14 <clokep> Hmm...I'll check later. 13:51:15 <Mic> There should be a bug 13:55:18 <clokep> No, but its in the mock up. :) 13:56:45 <flo> clokep: feel free to file a bug about it. And add a patch if you have some free time ;) 13:57:20 <clokep> I'll file a bug, will hopefully write some patches in the coming week. :) 13:57:29 <flo> no rush, don't worry :) 13:59:29 <ibbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 451 filed by clokep@gmail.com. 13:59:31 <ibbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=451 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Participants Need Context Menu 13:59:56 * clokep waits for instantbot... 14:02:39 <clokep> Guess he's not checking his bug mail. 14:02:53 <skeledrew> lol 14:14:46 <clokep> Mic: Trying out Firefox Sync. 15:09:47 <-- beigbeider has left #instantbird () 15:11:50 <-- Even has quit (Ping timeout) 15:24:09 <Mic> clokep: What do you think about it? 15:24:36 <clokep> Mic: It didn't seem to do anything. Is there any UI? 15:24:47 * clokep thinks its not intuitive. 15:24:57 <Mic> It has an own pane in the options dialog 15:25:04 <clokep> I know that. 15:25:10 <clokep> But when I chose "Sync now" nothing happened. 15:25:22 <Mic> And it's not supposed to do much else then syncing your bookmarks, completion and ... 15:25:26 <clokep> I don't understand why they took the status icon away. :P 15:25:29 <clokep> I thought tabs were synced? 15:25:43 <clokep> (Open tabs that is.) 15:25:51 <Mic> Have a look at the history menu 15:26:04 <Mic> There should be a menu item for other computers' tabs 15:27:12 <clokep> Ah there it is. :) 15:27:20 <clokep> And that's supposed to be discoverable...how? 15:27:41 <clokep> I'm guessing it was in the context menu of the status bar icon before they chucked that. 15:27:47 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 15:27:47 * ChanServ sets mode +o idechix 15:29:32 --> Even has joined #instantbird 15:29:33 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 15:47:35 <-- Even has quit (Connection reset by peer) 15:56:10 <-- skeledrew has quit (Ping timeout) 15:56:19 <Mic> flo: weren't there some rules/advices what and what not to do with JSON data from the web? 15:56:35 <Mic> (eg for security reasons) 15:57:00 <flo> yeah 15:57:08 <flo> do not use "eval", use "JSON.parse" instead 15:57:28 <flo> both faster and safer 15:57:38 <Mic> I saw parse and didn't know if it is the good or the bad one ;) 15:57:53 <Mic> So.. parsing now ;) 15:57:56 <flo> :) 15:58:10 <Mic> Youtube API data :) 15:58:16 <flo> cool :) 15:59:45 <Mic> The videos will have title, length, it contains even information which preview images are available (and at which time of the video they were taken, which might be a little too much;)) 16:02:32 --> skeledrew has joined #instantbird 16:02:52 <flo> clokep: several good bug report files. I've just added canconfirm and editbugs permissions to your bugzilla account. 16:02:58 <flo> *filed 16:08:36 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 16:09:03 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 16:25:35 --> Even has joined #instantbird 16:25:35 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 16:30:38 <clokep> flo: So what you really did was make it so when I view bugs they're really confusing? ;) But thanks. 16:31:01 <flo> that's a possible side effect 16:31:15 <flo> you know how I enjoy making simple UIs confusing ;) 16:32:15 <clokep> Yes, of course. 16:32:56 <clokep> Anyway its gorgeous outside so I'm gonna go finish reading Moonraker. 16:33:10 <clokep> Bye. 16:33:12 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 16:53:16 <Mic> Reading the JSON data works now .. :) 16:55:35 <Mic> https://wiki.instantbird.org/images/3/33/Video_Link.png 16:55:48 <Mic> Pretty simple so far but still :) 16:56:22 <flo> but good enough to make a cool looking screenshot ;) 16:56:41 <hicham> Mic : is that available ? 16:57:00 <Mic> Not yet, but hopefully it's going to rock when it's ready 16:57:26 <hicham> i think so too 16:58:03 <Mic> Bad thing so far: synchronous xmlhttprequests .. 16:58:40 <hicham> does it work with different domains ? 16:58:55 <Mic> Depends on which support I will add ;) 16:59:01 <flo> Mic: bah, there will be a way to fix that ;) 16:59:11 <Mic> Hopefully some video sites, some image sites, .. 16:59:14 <hicham> AFAIK, xmlhttprequest is restricted to the domains it is called from 16:59:33 <Mic> hmm? 16:59:38 <flo> hicham: I don't think this applies to chrome code 17:00:17 <hicham> flo : greasemonkey created a function to workaround that 17:00:20 <Mic> How should chrome code have a domain anyways? 17:00:30 <hicham> ah ok 17:00:36 <Mic> well, dinner now 17:00:49 <hicham> bon appétit 17:02:12 <flo> wow, out of the 50 last emails I've received in my inbox, only 11 are not related to instantbird. 17:02:20 <flo> I see the tag "Instantbird" almost everywhere 17:02:35 <hicham> well, that is expected 17:02:45 <hicham> 0.2 was an important release 17:04:07 <flo> it went almost unnoticed though :-/ 17:06:25 <hicham> you should use mozilla marketing techniques 17:06:34 <hicham> like you are using its platform :D 17:06:49 <flo> well, we would love to ;) 17:06:56 <flo> they involved many more people though 17:07:19 <flo> if you have ideas, don't hesitate 17:07:29 <flo> to share :) 17:09:14 <hicham> create some cool banners for promotion as a first step 17:09:46 <flo> I think that's already planned as a way to use some of idechix's spare time :) 17:11:37 <idechix> what ?? 17:12:01 <flo> creating cool "Get Instantbird" "Try Instantbird", ... images ;) 17:12:18 <idechix> oh, ok 17:12:45 <flo> "I use Instantbird." 17:12:48 <flo> "I love Instantbird" 17:12:57 <flo> whatever text feels "interesting" :-D 17:13:01 <hicham> "Connect to the World", "Proud Instantbird User" 17:15:30 <hicham> how do you plan to add systray support ? 17:15:40 <flo> I tend to think users who are most likely to help spread the word use twitter, so I suspect adding a decent (or good! :)) twitter support in the next version should help 17:15:40 <hicham> since i guess it is platform dependant 17:15:59 <hicham> yeah, that would be great 17:16:11 <flo> it's almost the same on Windows on Linux for the way the user interacts with it. 17:16:27 <flo> on Mac it could be useful, but isn't really an absolute necessity 17:16:38 <hicham> but the implentation differs 17:16:50 <flo> that's a fact, not a problem. 17:17:05 <hicham> on windows you would use native win32 api, while on linux, you will use GTK 17:17:20 <hicham> on mac i don't know :D 17:17:25 <flo> there'll be some C++ code and some part will be Windows only and use the win32 api, some part will be GTK only 17:17:26 * instantbot frowns at flo 17:17:31 <flo> on mac it's Cocoa 17:17:38 <flo> instantbot: relax, no C++ today 17:17:41 <instantbot> flo: Sorry, I've no idea what 'relax, no C++ today' might be. 17:19:00 <hicham> until now there are few alternatives 17:19:14 <hicham> minimizetotray and firetray 17:21:53 <hicham> is twitter supported by libpurple ? 17:22:35 <flo> doesn't matter :) 17:22:44 <flo> we will do it in JavaScript 17:23:03 <flo> but if you really want an answer about libpurple: there's a plugin for it 17:23:22 <flo> Pidgin developers don't want to hear about integrating it by default in libpurple because "microblogging is not instant messaging" 17:23:56 <hicham> of course it is not 17:36:37 <tymerkaev> instantbot: c++ 17:36:54 <flo> tymerkaev: only once a day :) 17:42:41 <tymerkaev> flo: c++ is evil 17:43:47 <Mic> It's not more or less evil than a -knif-- atomic bomb. It depends on what you use it for .. :P 17:56:38 <hicham> flo : i asked before if it is possible to add fonts per language preference ... 17:57:41 <flo> what's the usecase? 17:58:52 <hicham> default arabic fonts suck big time 17:59:08 <hicham> and i guess it might be the case for other languages 17:59:11 <flo> can't we pick a sane default? 18:00:51 <hicham> and why not do like firefox and allow for more choice for multi language users ? 18:01:57 <flo> that piece of UI is *very* obscure 18:02:25 <hicham> obscure in which sense ? 18:04:24 <flo> as long as you have never has problems with it, it's not clear at all why a font can't be right for all characters. 18:04:52 <flo> and all that "serif", "sans serif", "proportional", "fixed width" thing... 18:05:15 <flo> most people want to pick ONE font, not open an encyclopedia to understand the pref dialog. 18:05:19 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 18:05:35 <hicham> flo : latin letters users yes 18:05:59 <flo> how is the font language selected in the first place? 18:06:15 <flo> I would be it isn't at all (libpurple outputs everything in UTF8) 18:06:19 <flo> *bet 18:06:53 <hicham> firefox selects the language based on the tag "lang" in the head section 18:06:56 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 18:07:04 <flo> which we don't have 18:07:36 * Mic is now known as Mic2 18:07:39 * Mic2 is now known as Mic 18:09:32 <Mic> flo: How is it with Message Styles: do we actually support the converted themes? 18:10:12 <Mic> If there's a problem, would it be fixed if someone reports it? 18:10:23 <flo> probably not 18:10:30 <flo> especially for a theme in the sandbox 18:11:08 <flo> if we wanted to look at the code, we would probably be tempted to rewrite everything in there for most themes :-/ 18:11:57 <Mic> e.g. the (popular) theme Bishop contains a background image which is only 800x600 at most 18:12:01 <Mic> brb 18:12:03 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 18:12:17 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 18:12:55 <flo> if someone wanted to do something to it, we could probably asign the add-on to that person on AIO 18:13:20 <Mic> j #VideoLink 18:43:37 <-- hicham has quit (Client exited) 18:55:03 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 19:10:34 * flo has just received a Czech translation by email 19:19:25 <tymerkaev> flo: who's owner? 19:30:35 <-- skeledrew has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 19:43:32 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 19:43:41 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 19:48:30 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 20:08:13 <flo> tymerkaev: he also made a langpack on AIO: https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/addon/243/ 20:20:41 <flo> we really need to clarify the wiki page about translation :-/ 20:22:49 <tymerkaev> flo: you may add link to wiki when someone trying to add localization to AIO 20:23:40 <flo> it seems I'm writing the same email over and over again 20:24:01 <flo> asking name, irc nickname, if it's ok to list that info on the wiki page, ... 20:24:09 <flo> explaining what the imported libpurple translations are 20:28:11 <tymerkaev> where's located libpurple translations 20:28:14 <tymerkaev> ? 20:28:40 <tymerkaev> I can't find them. 20:29:09 <flo> they were in the first changeset of your repository. 20:29:43 <flo> tymerkaev: http://hg.instantbird.org/l10n/ru/repos/rev/333bcc4794ef 20:30:49 <tymerkaev> I mean - where's sources for export 20:30:52 <tymerkaev> ? 20:31:07 <flo> I don't understand the question 20:50:19 * tymerkaev is now known as tymerkaev-afk 21:08:39 * tymerkaev-afk is now known as tymerkaev 21:15:33 <flo> there are many websites that still point to very old versions 21:15:39 <flo> this one for example still has 0.1 : http://im-icq.ru/mozilla-instantbird/ 21:18:09 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 21:25:50 <clokep> There's actually at least 2 plugins for Twitter for libpurple btw. ;) 21:26:17 <clokep> Mic: That screenshot is pretty awesome. 21:29:07 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 21:30:23 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 21:30:42 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 21:30:47 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 21:31:28 <tymerkaev> flo: stupid software sites ;X 21:31:41 <tymerkaev> bad example 21:31:58 <tymerkaev> see wikipedia 21:38:50 --> hicham has joined #instantbird 21:41:57 * clokep just realized I don't have a text editor install, kind of hard to edit Instantbird code then, no? 21:42:07 <clokep> Not using Notepad. :) 21:42:23 <hicham> wordpad then 21:42:23 <flo> install ubuntu, and then sudo apt-get install emacs :) 21:42:52 <hicham> maybe MS plans to bundle a decent editor 21:43:17 <hicham> or you can use edit in a terminal 21:43:18 <flo> I hope you will install one before MS does it for you ;) 21:43:36 <hicham> pretty powerful than notepad 21:43:59 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Client exited) 21:45:50 <hicham> komodo is pretty powerful, though i didn't use it a lot 21:45:56 <Even> emacs works on Windows too (on a side note) 21:46:14 <flo> xemacs is even part of Mozilla build ;) 21:46:19 <clokep> I'm going with komodo edit since I want to try it and this seems like a good reason to. 21:46:26 <Even> ^^ 21:46:37 <clokep> flo: I think its going back to emacs in the new build that's about to come out? 21:46:50 <clokep> MS has bundled an editor, go type "edit" on the command line. ;) 21:46:52 <flo> yeah, I think so too 21:46:57 <Even> Well, is it not a ersion that uses msys in mozilla build and not a windows based build ? 21:47:09 <Even> Because both exists... 21:47:19 <clokep> I also don't have the build system on this computer though. 21:47:34 <Even> ^^ 21:48:13 <hicham> clokep : you discovered edit ? 21:48:27 <clokep> hicham: I've used edit. :P 21:49:00 <hicham> clokep : i was using it a lot when i was using windows 21:49:20 <clokep> I learned to program on QBasic, the QBASIC editor is essentially "edit" with a "build" command added. 21:50:06 <hicham> have you looked at the leaked ms source code ? 21:50:25 <clokep> No. 21:51:29 <flo> hicham: the one from Window 2000? 21:52:13 <hicham> flo : exactly 21:54:18 <hicham> flo : you downloaded it too ? 21:54:41 <flo> that was a very very long time ago 21:55:09 <flo> before learning C/C++. 21:55:22 <hicham> but i had fun looking at the code 21:57:28 * clokep can't remember what I was even going to work on. 22:06:12 <clokep> Mic: flo: This is vaguely how I'm making the Auto Link extension options, although the top "box" will repeat over and over in a richlistbox https://wiki.instantbird.org/File:Auto-link-prefs-teaser.png 22:07:22 <hicham> clokep: that should be per channel 22:07:49 <clokep> You can configure per channel based on pattern matching. 22:08:00 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: get satisfied! :: www.unitedservers.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 22:08:02 <hicham> that would be great then 22:08:21 <clokep> It already does that though. 22:08:25 * clokep is confused. 22:08:45 <flo> the UI seems a bit confusing to me 22:08:50 <flo> why all these checkboxes? 22:09:28 <clokep> global, case insenstive, multiline, sticky. 22:09:36 <clokep> (g i m y) 22:09:45 <-- idechix has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.3a1pre) 22:09:51 <flo> I speak regexp too ;) 22:10:02 <clokep> Wasn't sure, some people avoid it like the plague. :) 22:10:20 <clokep> Some of my friend who're great programmer's can't use them for their life. :( 22:10:33 <flo> I'm not sure how I could right the smiley code without regexps 22:11:08 <clokep> True. :) 22:11:17 <flo> *write 22:11:46 <flo> well, with a finite state machine 22:11:59 <flo> or accepting an horribly slow code 22:12:07 <clokep> :) 22:12:19 <flo> how do you do the syntax highlighting? 22:12:29 <clokep> http://regexpal.com 22:12:46 <clokep> And he released it as a library: http://stevenlevithan.com/regex/syntaxhighlighter/ 22:12:55 <clokep> (Although all of regexpal is on Google Code, it was more then I needed.) 22:13:22 <clokep> And I have a regexp binding (which has the textbox, the checkboxes, etc.) and I put his code into the binding. 22:13:31 <clokep> Its slightly broken right now, but that's OK. :) 22:13:37 <flo> ok :) 22:14:04 <flo> my question about the checkbox was, why does that need to be a clickable UI? 22:14:14 <clokep> I'm also toying with having a "matching" section on the bottom, soy ou can type a haystack to match and it'll auto highlight, etc. and show you the output "object" of the regexp. 22:14:47 <clokep> Well case insentive and multiline need to be, I'm not sure about global/sticky. I just copy and pasted the same line 3 times. :) 22:15:06 <flo> I'm used to writing /something/i for a regexp 22:15:15 <flo> so the flag is part of the expression 22:15:33 <clokep> Yeah. Hopefully you'll be able to do that too. 22:16:42 <clokep> I want it to show the /and_then_i_can_type_here/ but the /'s don't move, I'm not sure how to do that. 22:16:55 <clokep> (And if your cursor was before the second / it would automatically move to "after" it so you can type flags.) 22:24:26 <clokep> I'm not sure if tha tmakes any sense. :) 22:24:42 <clokep> Regardless, it'll definitely have it so if you type it that way it'll parse it correctly. 22:27:34 <clokep> Hey can someone look at a snippet of code of mine and see why it won't work? I'm not getting anywhere. :-\ 22:31:44 <-- Even has quit (Ping timeout) 22:37:50 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 22:59:31 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 23:01:45 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Connection reset by peer) 23:02:09 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 23:08:31 <flo> clokep: If it's some JS code, I may be able to help 23:08:44 <clokep> Its DOM manipulation. 23:11:28 <clokep> the XUL: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/298 23:11:28 <clokep> The JS: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/299 23:11:44 <clokep> Oops, sorry for not untabbing the XUL. :( 23:12:50 <flo> where's the problem? 23:12:57 <clokep> The menuitems don't get added to the menupopup. 23:13:26 <flo> the dump are printed? 23:13:47 <clokep> dumps print, the alert fires. 23:14:02 <clokep> (The dump prints the proper output as well.) 23:14:56 <flo> why both the code at line 25 and 27? 23:15:15 <clokep> The insertBefore wasn't working so I tried appendChild, also didn't work. 23:16:38 <flo> if you want to try appendChild, comment out the insertBefore 23:16:59 <clokep> Just did that and it didn't work. 23:18:02 <flo> do you see the nodes with dom inspector? 23:18:14 <clokep> I didn't try that. Will now. 23:20:23 <clokep> I can't get the DOMi working...and extensions.cehckCompatibility seems to be getting deleted every restart. :-\ 23:22:10 <flo> :-/ 23:22:20 <flo> debug builds have it by default 23:23:08 <clokep> No, they're not in the DOMi view. 23:24:47 <flo> I'm sorry, I've no other idea :-/ 23:25:07 <clokep> Its OK. Thanks for the help. 23:25:35 <clokep> Oh wait. I think I just found it. 23:26:29 * clokep is dumb. 23:26:45 <clokep> I had another element with the same ID, although that should throw a warning and it doesn't? 23:35:47 <flo> I'm not sure if that's really an error, or just a case in which the behavior is undefined 23:36:34 <clokep> I think according to spec its an eerror but I'm not sure. 23:36:38 <clokep> Anyway, it works now. :) 23:48:39 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout)