#instantbird log on 06 26 2010

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00:03:31 <clokep_> Possibly. I've never really gotten Venkman to work for me...I always just dump to the console.
00:04:00 <skeledrew> what's the issue?
00:04:15 <skeledrew> what version did you try?
00:04:28 <clokep_> I don't know when I tried it, a long time ago.
00:04:35 <clokep_> It never seemd to work, it always just seemed to give me errors.
00:04:36 <skeledrew> k
00:04:41 <clokep_> But maybe I wasn't using it correctly.
00:05:28 <skeledrew> there seems to be 3 recommended versions: 0.9.84, 0.9.87 and 0.9.87.4
00:06:08 <skeledrew> all for diff Mozilla products
00:06:56 <clokep_> That doesn't surprise me. :)
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08:29:40 <skeledrew_dev> testing...
08:29:51 <skeledrew_dev> failure...
08:30:08 <skeledrew_dev> on to new method...
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09:12:31 * skeledrew_dev wonders why IB restarts whenever it's run from a diff location
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09:18:47 <skeledrew_dev> testing...
09:18:59 <skeledrew_dev> still doesn't work...
09:19:03 <skeledrew_dev> ...
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09:23:15 <skeledrew_dev> loading function works...
09:23:40 <skeledrew_dev> more research needed...
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09:38:54 <skeledrew> connection check...
09:40:46 <skeledrew> oops! seems i broke my dev profile or something...
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09:44:00 <skeledrew_dev> weird
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09:45:29 <skeledrew> crap. addon's completely broken...
09:50:03 <skeledrew> well... guess that's better than having no effect at all...
09:50:12 <Mic> Morian: could you add something like "RewriteRule ^/today\/$ /{TIME_YEAR}{TIME_MON}{TIME_DAY}/" to the rewrite rules of log.bezut.info?
09:52:21 <Mic> I'm not sure if it works exactly like this, on my system I had it to rewrite to a file directly and not only to a directory
09:53:27 <Mic> I'd really like to be able to bookmark the "/today/" url :)
09:55:53 <skeledrew> Mic: any idea why a profile would refuse to connect and the addon has nothing to do with connections? undoing the changes to the addon doesn't work, and disabling the addon pointer (renaming the file) only worked twice
09:56:38 <Mic> What is "refuse to connect" exactly?
09:56:56 <Mic> You can't connect any of the accounts?
09:57:06 <skeledrew> it's behaving as if i lost my internet connection
09:58:25 <Mic> have you tried starting in the safe mode?
09:58:45 <Mic> So no addons can interfere
09:58:55 <skeledrew> not exactly...
09:59:07 <skeledrew> -safe-mode right?
09:59:13 <Mic> I think so
09:59:19 <Mic> maybe -safemode
09:59:30 <Mic> most likely the latter
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10:00:02 <skeledrew_dev> yep. works
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10:00:14 <Mic> No, your spelling is correct
10:00:29 <skeledrew> actually i used yours
10:00:44 <Mic> well, ok then
10:01:12 <skeledrew> maybe it supports both, or there's a side effect. or something
10:02:02 <Mic> maybe
10:02:22 <Mic> Does connecting work again or are there any messages on the account manager or errorconsole?
10:03:23 <skeledrew> nothing unusual in error console. the account keeps timing out in acct man
10:05:28 <Mic> Could you try to ping for exmaple mozilla.org from the command line?
10:06:15 <skeledrew> what command line?
10:06:19 <skeledrew> the regular?
10:06:47 <Mic> yes
10:06:59 <skeledrew> my connection's fine
10:08:05 <skeledrew> ohhh
10:08:06 <Mic> From time to time I had the problem that my DNS settings broke which lead to effects like: being able to chat on already conneced servers but not able to load any website or connect to other servers
10:08:07 <skeledrew> hmm
10:08:39 <skeledrew> pinging irc.mozilla.org times out...
10:08:46 <Mic> That's ok
10:09:00 <skeledrew> ?
10:09:06 <skeledrew> ping's disabled?
10:09:11 <Mic> It does that for me as well, most likely it just discards them
10:09:59 <skeledrew> k
10:10:09 <skeledrew> false alarm
10:10:20 <skeledrew> it connects to other accounts
10:11:49 <skeledrew> well at least i know my addon didn't crash too badly
10:12:42 <Mic> What addon are you creating?
10:13:01 <skeledrew> sent text history
10:13:08 <skeledrew> ctrl_up/down
10:13:16 <skeledrew> *ctrl+
10:14:05 <skeledrew> the logic looks fine, and i've reworked it several ways, but i'm still getting nothing
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10:16:50 <skeledrew> hmm. seems i need to make a room for testing purposes. i've really flooded this one
10:16:50 <Mic> "getting nothing" is..?
10:17:00 <Mic> Good idea :P
10:17:21 <skeledrew> the addon loads, but when i press the key combos, nothing happens
10:17:38 <Mic> Did you try to make it do something else first?
10:17:50 <Mic> Showing an alert when your key combination is caught?
10:17:52 <skeledrew> such as?
10:17:59 <Mic> Or outputting a line to the error console?
10:18:21 <skeledrew> i've now added an alert. so i'm sure it loads
10:18:31 <skeledrew> not sure how to do that yet
10:19:13 <Mic> Use "Components.utils.reportError(yourErrorMessageString);" to write an error to the console
10:19:56 <skeledrew> i just call it like a regular function?
10:20:00 <Mic> yes
10:20:04 <skeledrew> k
10:20:06 <skeledrew> thanks
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12:53:41 <Mic> skeledrew: you managed to get your things working?
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19:22:02 <skeledrew> two mes?
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22:06:17 <clokep_> flo: ping
22:06:24 <flo> clokep_: pong
22:07:04 <clokep_> I'm trying to get the node of the arrowscrollbox of the conversation window.
22:07:11 <clokep_> http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/content/tabbrowser.xml#1468
22:07:26 <clokep_> But I can't seem to find it in JavaScript at all...its parent doesn't seem to have any children.
22:08:42 <flo> how have you tried to get it?
22:08:48 <clokep_> I'm searching for an anonymous element with "anonid" == "arrowscrollbox" but it return snull. I'm not sure I'm giving it the correct element to search on?
22:09:50 <clokep_> I can get the tabbox, the "tabbrowser-strip" and the "tabs" element, but I can't seem to find the arrowscrollbox, which /should/ be between the tabbrowser-strip and the tabs, but it doesn't seem to be there?
22:09:54 <clokep_> The DOMi finds it fine.
22:10:41 <flo> hmm
22:11:07 <clokep_> dump(document.getAnonymousElementByAttribute(tabbrowser, "anonid", "arrowscrollbox")); returns null
22:11:13 <clokep_> (dump just outputs to the error console)
22:12:19 <flo> what about: document.getAnonymousElementByAttribute(tabbrowser.mTabContainer, "anonid", "arrowscrollbox") ?
22:13:12 <clokep_> Well I think its a combination I haven't tried. :)
22:13:35 <clokep_> Yay, that got it. :) Thank's so much.
22:14:04 <flo> you are welcome :)
22:18:36 <clokep_> Changing styles on a xbl element is kind of a pain. :-\
22:19:11 <flo> do you really need to do it from JS?
22:19:32 <clokep_> Doing it from CSS wasn't working...
22:20:00 <flo> are you sure the css selector was right? :)
22:20:16 <clokep_> No, but it was confusing that some were working and some were not.
22:20:42 <clokep_> I wanted to make sure I was even looking at the right part of the DOM which is why I went into CSS and I was trying to walk through it (via child, etc.) but you can't really do that w/ anonymous elements haha.
22:20:53 <clokep_> Then I think I got distracted by trying to do it this way. :)
22:21:33 <Mic> What are you trying to do?
22:21:48 <Mic> Changing the look of the scrollbar or something like that?
22:21:49 <clokep_> Trying to move the tab bar from horizontal to vertical.
22:21:56 <Mic> Ah, ok ... 
22:22:05 <clokep_> flo: I would 100% prefer to do it only in CSS...but it didn't seem possible. :-\
22:22:20 <clokep_> Although its all styling so I /think/ it should be.
22:22:35 <clokep_> But I found this afternoon that you can do an [anonid=""] selector, so I might give that a try.
22:22:45 <flo> try to use the classes
22:23:37 <flo> the "original" CSS uses them a lot: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/content/tabbrowser.css
22:24:31 <flo> there are also interesting examples of syntax that we probably couldn't make up :)
22:24:44 <flo> .tabbrowser-tabs[closebuttons="alltabs"] > .tabbrowser-tab:not(:only-child)
22:25:38 <clokep_> Hahah. Very nice. :)
22:26:04 <clokep_> I wasn't sure if it just wasn't possible to "correctly" over lay tabbrowser.css, so I started trying to see if JS would work...
22:27:18 <clokep_> Also, this should work to add styles w/o an overlay, right: style        chrome://instantbird/content/instantbird.xul    chrome://vertical-tabs/content/instantbird.css
22:28:10 <flo> yes
22:33:35 <Mic> flo: bug 388 should be fixed since I added some search enginges to AIO
22:33:38 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=388 min, --, ---, raynaudquentin, NEW, Add search engines to AIO (problem: none there at the moment)
22:34:06 <Mic> Clicking the link on the search engine manager still brings up an empty page
22:34:38 <flo> is there a sandbox-related problem?
22:34:39 <Mic> https://add-ons.instantbird.org/[...]/search-engines/ is forwarded to https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/browse/type:4
22:35:19 <Mic> https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/browse/type:4/cat:4?sort=name shows the list containing the search engines
22:35:41 <Mic> Could it be that the add-ons adress is not forwarded to the correct adress?
22:37:53 <flo> so we should add "/cat:4" at the end of the url?
22:38:17 <Mic> This will lead to the Top Rated, Newest ... page
22:38:26 <clokep_> flo: It seems like -moz-box-orient isn't working. I can do "display: none" and it disappears though. :-\
22:39:40 <Mic> Concerning your question: they're active and public
22:40:27 <flo> Mic: isn't it what we do for message themes and emoticons?
22:40:46 <Mic> The Top Rated, .. page?
22:40:48 <Mic> I think so
22:41:16 <Mic> Yes
22:41:34 <Mic> So there's nothing wrong with the "/cat:4" 
22:41:36 <Mic> imo
22:41:40 <flo> the "recently added" list shouldn't be empty :(
22:47:04 <Mic> I don't know how it is decided what "recently added" is
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22:53:57 <Mic> flo: is there something you can do about the empty "recently added" box?
22:54:13 <flo> I've just done it in the bug: ask Eventreur ;)
22:54:35 <flo> He'll be back from vacations tomorrow
22:55:07 <Mic> Ah, he's working now iirc?
22:57:57 <Mic> Should the search engine page look like this ( https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/browse/type:2 ) maybe?
22:57:57 <clokep_> Bah, this isn't working.
22:58:15 <Mic> The layout is the same at least
22:58:29 <Mic> So maybe it's also just lacking content on the page without the /cat:4
22:59:09 <flo> Mic: hmm, probably
23:02:17 <Mic> good night
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23:25:48 <flo> good night
23:26:21 <clokep_> Goodnight.
23:33:39 <clokep_> flo: Got it working. Apparently arrowscrollbox.orient is hardcoded to horizontal. Everything else can be CSS except that.