#instantbird log on 06 02 2010

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07:56:19 * flo has just discovered and tried Buzzbird (http://getbuzzbird.com/bb/)
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09:47:45 <Mic> Hi
09:48:45 <Mic> I saw Buzzbird as well. It was on planetmozilla yesterday iirc
09:50:02 <flo> that's where I've seen it ;)
09:52:41 <flo> my code for the Omegle JS protocol plugin: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/257
09:53:09 <flo> I'm still looking for ways to reduce the amount of code needed to create a protocol plugin, and I'd like it to be as clear as possible
09:57:39 <Mic> I'm looking forward to play around with it a bit ;)
10:12:56 <Mic> User protocol plugins might suffer from the problem, that they're not localized to the languages that Instantbird supports
10:13:14 <Mic> Maybe we could provide a way for them to get in touch with translators
10:13:35 <Mic> e.g. a webpage where people could request a localization for an addon or so
10:13:45 <Mic> *ask for
10:13:52 <Mic> *of an addon
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10:49:48 <flo> Mic: the problem is not specific to protocol plugins, it's the same for all add-ons
11:57:47 <Mic> Even though the idea started with protocol plugins, it also occured to me that it affects all
11:58:58 <Mic> You can't add translation after an addon is reviewed (would require going through the review process again, most likely=?
11:59:26 <flo> I don't think the review process needs to be slow
11:59:40 <flo> when reviewing, the differences with the previous versions are displayed
11:59:52 <flo> so I guess if there's only a locale added, we can review it quickly :)
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12:03:06 <Mic> Making a reviewed version as a prerequisite could help that people don't request translations at random
12:08:37 <flo> heh, an old twitter status: "Digsby updates self, breaks self. New build still doesn't store prefs or addons per user. I'm being less impressed quickly." and a few days later " And oh yes, reinstalling addons after having to perform manual install of update is lame. Time for Instantbird?  "
12:09:53 <Mic> :)
12:10:34 <Mic> Browsing through AMO I came to the conclusion that developping desktop applications must be far too difficult
12:10:54 <flo> you think I should give up? :-D
12:10:58 <Mic> No
12:11:09 <Mic> People are abusing Firefox as 'Desktop'
12:11:37 <Mic> They're writing grocery list generators, calculators, database management, and alarm clocks, birthday reminders and much more
12:11:46 <Mic> ... to include them into.. a web browser.
12:12:20 <Mic> well, I guess that's only because it's easy enough to do in contrary to write standalone applications
12:12:57 <flo> desktop applications are also harder to install
12:13:07 <flo> especially when the user has no admin right on the machine
12:14:21 <Mic> Why is installing an 'admin thing'?
12:14:45 <flo> because people use windows?
12:14:52 <flo> and developers visual studio?
12:15:00 <Mic> No, not that way
12:15:39 <Mic> I mean: as long as you can run any program (read: portable ~), it doesn't matter in my opinion if you install it or not
12:16:18 <flo> that's easy to do on Mac
12:16:35 <flo> on Windows, some DLL needs to be in the system folder, and it's a pain to workaround
12:17:52 <Mic> well, back on topic
12:18:09 <Mic> I guess it might get even worse once we get restart-less installation of extensions
12:18:38 <flo> it will be nice for protocol plugins :)
12:19:13 <Mic> One day we include the browser into the operating system and use it to display the desktop as well :)
12:19:41 <Mic> Which is ... "IE4-parity" then? ;)
12:19:44 <flo> have you heard about Chrome OS? :)
12:20:18 <Mic> Remember the 'active desktop'? 
12:20:38 <flo> was it ever removed?
12:20:44 <Mic> No idea
12:21:05 <Mic> I think so .. I can't remember I ever saw a way to add "channels" to the desktop since then
12:21:46 <Mic> Wikipedia says it was removed with Windows Vista
12:23:20 <flo> :)
12:25:39 <Mic> lol, I should add such a bug with "ie4-parity" to Bugzilla;)
12:26:04 <Mic> I admit that would be trolling. ;ost likely.
12:26:08 <Mic> *Most
12:37:19 <flo> which bugzilla ?
12:50:13 <Mic> Mozilla's
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15:21:41 <flo> http://queze.net/goinfre/jstest-dev-null.png
15:27:47 <Mic> Could you post this somewhere where you can't see my IP, please? ;)
15:31:32 <flo> oh, you have a secret IP?
15:32:22 <flo> by the way, I don't scan this server log for IP addresses ;)
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15:35:05 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/0bfe7c49aed7 - Florian Quèze - Initialize mConcreteAccount from the purpleAccount constructor (fix regression from 0fce27a75d57).
15:35:06 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/fb70108988f4 - Florian Quèze - Fix typo in the Conversation object in messagestyle.js and fake.js.
15:35:07 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/610786def4d2 - Florian Quèze - Add jsProtoHelper.jsm module.
15:35:08 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/9a90561a3b56 - Florian Quèze - Turn the 'JS Test' protocol plugin into a way to talk to /dev/null.
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