#instantbird log on 05 05 2010

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09:47:59 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 412 filed by marco.zehe@googlemail.com.
09:48:01 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, [Accessibility] Add accessible text for the status icons and other purely graphical info
09:55:34 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 413 filed by marco.zehe@googlemail.com.
09:55:36 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=413 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, [Accessibility] Each item text of the account list contains all possible account statuses.
10:11:10 <instantbot> leeraccount@yahoo.de set the Resolution field on bug 413 to DUPLICATE of bug 215.
10:11:12 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=413 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, [Accessibility] Each item text of the account list contains all possible account statuses.
10:11:13 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215 min, P5, ---, nobody, NEW, [Accessibility] "Connected Connecting Disconnected Disconnecting" are shown on the account item
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11:33:15 <flo> hi :)
11:34:02 <Mic> welcome to your channel ;)
11:34:52 <flo> :)
11:45:13 <Morian> instantbot tell #instantbird Hey! It's mine!
11:45:16 <instantbot> Morian: Sorry, I've no idea what 'tell #instantbird Hey! It's mine' might be.
11:45:18 <Morian> mmmh
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11:45:25 <flo> ahah
11:46:39 <instantbot> Hey! It's mine!
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20:50:45 <Mic> flo: file transfers are still planned for 0.3 as it says on the roadmap?
20:55:37 <Mic> flo: I'd close bug 159 as IMCOMPLETE if you don't object. The reporter hasn't responded in one and a half year now.
20:55:40 <instantbot> Mic: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159 maj, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Instantbird crashes on takeoff
21:00:58 <flo> go ahead :)
21:01:04 <flo> not sure about file transfer
21:02:08 <instantbot> leeraccount@yahoo.de set the Resolution field on bug 159 to INCOMPLETE.
21:02:10 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159 maj, --, ---, nobody, RESO INCOMPLETE, Instantbird crashes on takeoff
21:03:10 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> Do we have, or has anybody looked into the possibility of creating, a Twitter Add-on?
21:04:20 <flo> DetroitLibertyPenguin: it's mostly possible to port the plugin that exists for pidgin, but I tried and the results were not satisfying
21:04:40 <Mic> DetroitLibertyPenguin: there's the possibility of using a twitter-to-xmpp gateway if all else fails
21:05:03 <flo> creating in JS a twitter add-on would be possible, but it would not be really integrated inside the core of Instantbird. It would just be a JS twitter client with a few integration points in the UI.
21:05:22 <flo> and... I want to implement twitter support by default for 0.3 :)
21:05:36 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> :-)
21:06:52 <flo> I tried to write down what I have in mind for 0.3 (or whatever is next after 0.2) http://pastebin.instantbird.com/231
21:07:50 <flo> it's intentionnaly not identical to what we have on the roadmap of the wiki because I wrote this from what I have in mind, not from what we said we would do. Something not included here doesn't mean it won't get implemented :)
21:08:25 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> I don't like systray icon but the rest is good to me :-) as long as we include an option to turn it off that's fine
21:09:21 <Mic> Bug 291 is most likely a WONTFIX?
21:09:22 <flo> don't worry :)
21:09:23 <instantbot> Mic: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=291 tri, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Repainting problem after changing conversation colours
21:10:06 <Mic> It might be visible and annoying for a moment but would occur quite rarely and does no real harm..
21:10:24 <flo> and it's not in code I understand
21:10:49 <flo> if we want this fixed, it should be filed in Mozilla's bugzilla, with a minimized testcase
21:10:57 <flo> and that would probably be a duplicate...
21:11:44 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> that screenshot doesn't look like Windows, but a Windows-like Gnome theme
21:12:01 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> I suppose it coudl be a Gnome-like Windows theme
21:12:22 <flo> isn't it Windows XP with the 'Luna' theme?
21:13:25 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> no, the colors off...not that is important
21:13:59 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> not just color, but shadding and buttons, its looks GNU to me :-) 
21:14:24 <Mic> Which screenshot?
21:14:44 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> flo: JS=Java Script?
21:14:52 <flo> DetroitLibertyPenguin: yes
21:14:55 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> OK
21:15:00 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> MIc: Bug 291
21:15:03 <instantbot> DetroitLibertyPenguin: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=291 tri, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Repainting problem after changing conversation colours
21:15:03 <Mic> The one linked from bug 291 is done on Windows using the "Royale" theme
21:15:27 <Mic> And it's nice-looking in my opinion and not GNOME-ish at all ;)
21:15:32 <Mic> scnr
21:15:45 <flo> I want protocol plugins to be implementable in either libpurple's C API, or JavaScript (XPCOM component). This (the implementation language) should make no user-visible difference at all.
21:15:49 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> you hating on Gnome?
21:17:25 <instantbot> leeraccount@yahoo.de set the Resolution field on bug 291 to WONTFIX.
21:17:29 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=291 tri, --, ---, nobody, RESO WONTFIX, Repainting problem after changing conversation colours
21:18:19 <Mic> No, I don't hate it. I just think it looks coarse.
21:20:02 <Mic> What sense does a localization component on Bugzilla make?
21:20:26 <Mic> For reporting wrong translations maybe..? (That's request in bug 369 btw)
21:20:29 <instantbot> Mic: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=369 tri, --, 0.2, nobody, UNCO, Add Localizations component to Bugzilla.
21:21:03 <flo> or strings that are not localizable? In that case I guess it's better to use the component of that code area
21:21:11 <flo> maybe for infrastructure problems.
21:21:29 <flo> Things like "the buildbot slave is never available when I need it :-P"
21:22:17 <flo> I'm surprised that nobody has complained that there's been no nightly in the last 4 days
21:23:11 <Mic> I guess they are glad that they don't have to restart the application because of an update?
21:24:00 <flo> maybe...
21:24:49 <flo> apparently changing something in the mozconfig file rebuilds everything :(
21:27:07 <Mic> So no definite 'no' on 369 .. I'll change it to a new enhancement then ..
21:27:11 <Mic> ?
21:27:55 <flo> Mic: yeah, it's probably a "yes, maybe... no rush here" :-D
21:29:49 <Mic> I thought more about "blocking0.2" .. :P
21:30:02 <flo> ah, crashed :(
21:30:53 <flo> and no symbols
21:32:46 <Mic> Bug 288 looks reasonable, could have a/some setting(s) on the privacy pane like "Accept messages from: [Anyone | buddies in contact list | nobody:P ], Display notification on blocked messages [Yes | No]"
21:32:49 <instantbot> Mic: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=288 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Implement a spamming system for messages from people not on your list.
21:36:13 <flo> I think this still needs some brainstorming
21:36:52 <Mic> :D
21:37:09 <Mic> I was just writing exactly that it might need some brainstorming
21:37:15 <flo> "handling of interruptions" in my roadmap draft was related: a conversation/authorization request/whatever should never popup while you are busy, except if the interruption is more important than not interrupting
21:38:26 <flo> so what we need to decide is "what's a relevant/valuable interruption?" "how are we going to display everything else in a delayed but still usable way?"
21:39:35 <Mic> btw the basic idea behind this report was to prevent unsolicited messages from opening, anything more was just brainstorming and ideas
21:48:27 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/143bc119169c - Florian Quèze - Set the default font preferences for the x-central-euro group too.
21:49:49 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 215 to FIXED.
21:49:51 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215 min, P5, 0.2, florian, RESO FIXED, [Accessibility] "Connected Connecting Disconnected Disconnecting" are shown on the account item
21:58:28 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/bca57c99afd7 - Florian Quèze - Bug 215 - Fix accessible name of account items in the richlistbox of the account manager.
21:58:29 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/4bc8d7dd9f36 - Florian Quèze - Add an --enable-purple-plugins configure option to enable using libpurple gmodule-based protocol plugins instead of the plugins built with Instantbird (the target usecase
21:58:30 <instantbot> is Linux distributions that already package libpurple plugins and don't want to duplicate them).
21:58:35 <Mic> Bug 282 is fixed at the moment ..
21:58:38 <instantbot> Mic: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=282 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Instantbird "latest-trunk" version on ftp show 0.2b2pre nightly builds
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21:59:24 <flo> right.
21:59:33 <flo> someday I'll automate that! :)
22:01:46 <Mic> Just to get the wording right: a bug appearing again is called "regression", isn't it?
22:01:48 <flo> I think 0.2 is almost code complete. The only thing related to the code remaining in my todo list is "upgrade the credits in the about dialog"
22:02:13 <flo> yes.
22:02:38 <instantbot> leeraccount@yahoo.de set the Resolution field on bug 282 to FIXED.
22:02:40 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=282 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO FIXED, Instantbird "latest-trunk" version on ftp show 0.2b2pre nightly builds
22:02:43 <flo> though in this specific case, the bug may or may not be a regression, depending on what you think the bug is.
22:03:59 <Mic> The wrong links, not the specific wrong version
22:04:11 <Mic> It would need updating the summary in this case
22:04:18 <flo> Mic: by the way, thanks for cleaning up old bugs on bugzilla :)
22:04:45 <Mic> you're welcome
22:08:25 <flo> good night :)
22:08:53 <Mic> good night
22:24:39 <Mic> nn
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