#instantbird log on 03 29 2010

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06:51:35 <flo> hi :)
07:11:27 <flo> uh, the virtual machine I just found was used to test Instantbird 0.1.2 :-S
07:12:23 <flo> and it has firefox 3.0 beta 3
08:42:34 <instantbot> leeraccount@yahoo.de set the Resolution field on bug 396 to FIXED.
08:42:35 <instantbot> tymerkaev@gmail.com added attachment 296 to bug 387.
08:42:38 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=396 maj, --, ---, nobody, RESO FIXED, No text.
08:42:39 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=387 tri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Make wording of "Use separate windows.." setting less ambiguous
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09:11:05 <Mic> hello
09:11:10 <Mic> Morian: the logs are broken again
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11:12:15 <Morian> mmmh
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11:12:58 topic changed by sand.mozilla.org to "Ask questions about Instantbird here. Official website: http://www.instantbird.com. Latest release: 0.2b2. Read http://blog.instantbird.org/. Nightlies: http://nightly.instantbird.im/ (testing purpose only), IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/."
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11:13:26 <Morian> strange bug
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11:26:50 <Mic> tymerkaev: you could leave the first checkmark away, it won't give any extra option like it is on your mockup
11:32:49 <tymerkaev> Mic: ah?
11:38:04 <Mic> Remove the checkbox and keep the label as description for the following part
11:38:20 <Mic> You now can toggle tabs for PMs and MUCs separately
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12:22:52 <deOmega> Gm IB :)
12:23:59 <flo> hey there :)
12:27:07 <deOmega> Hi Flo.. nice product u have here :)// am sure u know, but the dark theme now works with Stratini Black, and it is actually my favorite for that theme.  Would like to see time stamp 'option' though,  but still great.
12:27:35 <deOmega> I like how it picks up the color of your nick as it is in the nick list
12:28:30 <flo> you know the timestamps are visible as tooltip texts of the messages, right?
12:30:23 <deOmega> yes.. discovered  that yesterday and THAT is nice.... was thinking that maybe I just need to get used to it
12:33:32 <deOmega> Ia a change was made, would be nice to have it as an option as opposed to changing it all
12:35:41 <deOmega> am sure this would be  way down on your list :)
12:36:24 <flo> when/why do you need timestamps by the way?
12:38:27 <flo> is it to see how much time elapsed between 2 messages? to see when the last message arrived? To see what time it was when you said something specific? Or something else?
12:39:19 <Mic> Sometimes this, sometimes that..
12:39:43 <Mic> Sometimes to lookup something I knew I said/the other said e.g. this morning
12:40:27 <Mic> Idea: a message style that groups messages like by time (like possible with emails on Thunderbird)
12:40:32 <Mic> Could be a fun feature:
12:41:01 <Mic>  -- 5 minutes ago
12:41:01 <Mic>  -- last hour
12:41:02 <Mic>  -- this morning
12:41:20 <deOmega> OK..  seeing that I use it as a tool for work... there are times  when i  need to  gauge how fast i probably need to respond someone and who i need to respond to first, going by the amount of time that has elapsed... i do not respond to messages immediately... so when i do.. i try to  see the timestamp on each post
12:41:31 <flo> -- before lunch
12:41:49 <deOmega> Of courrse too much of teh timestamps can get in teh way in a sense
12:42:20 <deOmega> The general period, such as 30 min,1 hour etc,   would not capture my attention so much.. but rather the time
12:42:20 <flo> so you don't need the exact timestamp? Only the hour and minutes would be enough?
12:42:57 <deOmega> yes, hour and minute..i do not even need the date... as that would be availabel in history 
12:43:22 <deOmega> Seconds matter sometimes
12:44:02 <Mic> When pinging someone and wanting to know their lag? (scnr;) 
12:44:41 <flo> Mic: that's geeky. We will have a geek message theme someday with cool geek features (though I don't know yet what these could be, except a "terminal" look)
12:44:44 <deOmega> No,,  sometimes time  is important and so seconds matter
12:45:41 <flo> does it matter enough that displaying seconds only in tooltips is unusable?
12:47:36 <deOmega> yes... that would be  fine,  just in tooltips
12:48:04 <deOmega> because sesons make teh line longer. i have tried turning it off in  otherprograms i have used, but  found i had to put it back
12:49:09 <deOmega> I promise i am not being picky... we really use those
12:53:00 <deOmega> another option for these may be.. WHo gets what color and changing the nick color... but that is window dressing for ease of id
12:53:46 <deOmega> who gets what color background i meant
12:54:24 <flo> that's only in multi-user chats?
12:56:06 <deOmega> no.. in  private messaging eg.. in teh theme i am using here.. I get the brighter color while teh person sending me messages gets the darker color background.. so my messages stand out more...  I kinda do not have to  seee my messages more than I need to see teh other person's
12:56:25 <flo> oh
12:58:55 <deOmega> http://i43.tinypic.com/nqqypz.jpg
12:59:15 <deOmega> generally my messages would stand out more... but in this case, since your name is red.. that helps your messages
12:59:45 <flo> that's a bug of the theme
12:59:52 <flo> (I just checked that the author agrees)
13:00:21 <deOmega> in teh regular private messages.. both names would be wihite
13:01:02 <deOmega> Am sorry... which is is a bug?
13:01:50 <flo> "I get the brighter color while teh person sending me messages gets the darker color background.."
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13:04:04 <deOmega> ah, awesome.. GREAT
13:04:14 <deOmega> Thank you very much
13:15:06 <deOmega> ok flo, guys, have an absolutely great day
13:16:05 <Mic> have a nice day
13:16:15 <flo> why does windows XP needs to be reactivated after increasing the amount of memory available? :(
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15:26:10 <Piciok> hello there!
15:26:57 <Mic> Hi
15:27:23 <Piciok> I just installed Instantbird and therefore i have a few questions
15:27:38 <Piciok> firstly how to import my contact list deom Gadu-Gdu if you're familiar with the protocol
15:27:54 <Piciok> from*
15:29:48 <Mic> I'm sorry, I've no experience with Gadu-Gadu
15:30:05 <Piciok> also i can see not many things in options - i even can't check and assign sounds to events is it correct?
15:30:11 <Mic> flo: maybe you can help here with a question concerning Gadu-Gadu 
15:30:40 <Mic> That's correct - sound themes and customization of them will be supported in a coming version
15:31:00 <Mic> I can point you to the roadmap (which features are planned for which release) if you like
15:31:06 <flo> Mic: I'm not polish ;)
15:31:22 <flo> Amfi may help (but he is not currently in the room)
15:31:58 <flo> and I've got to go anyway. Sorry :-/
15:32:00 <Mic> I just remember there is a bugin the bugtracker concerning Gadu-Gadu and contact lists.. No idea if it is still valid (or ever was)
15:32:17 <Piciok> achh then - also when i took a look at addons website and tried to look for something in Protocols categor it told me there's nothing in there and on plugins website there are programs like Adobe Reader, Flash Player and others - no Instantbird plugins - does it mean that currently there ren't any addons for the program i mean extensions? or i'm looking in wrong place
15:32:19 <flo> I think the bug was about a "can't connect all all" issue
15:32:52 <Mic> There's no extra protocol extensions but others are available
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15:33:34 <Piciok> achhh nd i guess - sugestion i should put on Bugtracker?
15:34:03 <Piciok> because i have some accessibility related sugestions - i'm blind user
15:34:31 <Mic> Sure if you've missing something or something is broken, then have go to the bug tracker and check if it is there already. If not you can always file a request or report
15:35:02 <Mic> I think we have some accessibility bugs concerning the buddy list (or the tooltips there at least) already
15:35:17 <Mic> I'm sure you find them when searching for "accessibility"
15:35:21 <Piciok> thanks guys - i will play with it a bit and if i'll encounter something else i'll get back to you
15:35:23 <Piciok> bye then
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18:42:50 <Mic> good evening
18:43:05 <Mic> bug 37
18:43:08 <instantbot> Mic: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37 maj, P5, ---, florian, UNCO, Gadu-Gadu list not loaded on connect
18:43:19 <Mic> flo: that's the one I meant
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19:22:12 <flo> oh
19:22:27 <flo> way too old (and unconfirmed) to still be in my memory :)
19:41:46 <Mic> hehe, you see, I'll get into serious troubles with half a million of bugs :S
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20:02:52 <flo> Mic: bah, as long as you are here, I can forget the bugs safely :)
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20:06:14 <DGMurdockIII> 2(Mic2): i just tryed it with a new profile and still get the error
20:06:47 <flo> have you reduced it to a single account?
20:06:49 <Mic> sorry, I'm away atm
20:06:54 <Mic> ttyl
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20:07:29 <DGMurdockIII> it dose it on all the accont i have
20:08:02 <DGMurdockIII> iv enen tryed connect to themone by one and seeing if each of them get the erroe
20:08:20 <DGMurdockIII> i make sure only one account is connect at a time
20:08:26 <DGMurdockIII> when i was trying this
20:09:55 <flo> it's not about connecting accounts one by one, but adding them in the profile one by one
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20:18:28 <fkall> www.ep0ch.net NO ITS NOT DANGEROUS, GEEZ
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21:02:52 <flo> good night
21:13:31 <DGMurdockIII> oh
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22:09:27 <Mic|dnd> Good night
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