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00:35:17 <-- gaspo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b2) 01:34:50 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 02:18:10 <instantbot> New purplexpcom - General bug 397 filed by email@example.com. 02:18:13 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=397 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, google talk can not see the online people 02:21:33 <instantbot> firstname.lastname@example.org added attachment 293 to bug 397. 02:21:35 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=397 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, google talk can not see the online people 04:03:10 <-- Even has quit (Ping timeout) 04:08:23 --> Even has joined #instantbird 04:08:23 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 05:44:04 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 08:12:57 --> flo has joined #instantbird 08:12:57 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 08:17:39 --> gaspo has joined #instantbird 08:41:38 <-- Even has quit (Input/output error) 08:50:24 <-- gaspo has left #instantbird () 10:03:09 --> Amfi has joined #instantbird 10:28:10 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 10:32:21 <Mic> hello 10:39:19 <Mic> flo: Beta 1 didn't have offline buddies yet, had it? 10:41:08 <flo> "Buddy list context menu" is a new feature of beta2 10:41:41 <Mic> ok, good. 10:42:11 <Mic> My guess is that on bug 397 the user got confused by the offline buddies 10:42:15 <instantbot> Mic: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=397 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, google talk can not see the online people 10:45:31 <Mic> Sorting online buddies to the top would be a good thing 10:45:31 <flo> that's possible 10:45:53 <flo> or maybe there was a temporary server issue 11:24:09 <Mic> Do you have a minute to discuss about definitions what a buddy is and such? 11:31:15 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 11:31:42 <Mic> by the way (taken from the log of 2009-12-11): "21:47:35 <flo> and you are already able to reorder your accounts in the account manager, the first account in the list for a protocol is your favorite account for that protocol" - that's far from obvious. I didn't know it was possible at all to influence which on will be used... 11:36:37 <flo> that's something we plan to implement for 0.3 11:36:52 <flo> and it's the reason why we spent so much time on the "reorder" feature of the account manager 11:37:07 <flo> but there's currently no such hidden effect of reordering accounts 11:37:45 <Mic> ah, it sounded as if there were 11:37:51 <Mic> *was 11:38:13 <flo> well, it is your favorite account 11:38:24 <flo> but it doesn't mean we do anything useful (yet) with that information 11:41:36 <flo> Mic: by the way, about the definitions... The terms used for all the alias stuff are specially unclear, and easy to misunderstood. 11:41:46 <flo> I tried to explain it a bit at https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:DisplayName 11:42:27 <flo> things that are unclear too are the things that exist on several protocols with a different name on each protocol 11:51:44 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 398 filed by email@example.com. 11:51:45 <instantbot> firstname.lastname@example.org added attachment 294 to bug 398. 11:51:47 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=398 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Emoticons in URL strings 11:55:36 <instantbot> email@example.com set the Resolution field on bug 398 to DUPLICATE of bug 207. 11:55:38 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=398 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, Emoticons in URL strings 11:55:39 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=207 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, URLs should not contain Smileys 11:56:14 <flo> Mic: heh, just when I had clicked on "Mark as duplicate" and was about to type '207' :) 11:57:12 <Mic> I guess I won't be as fast once we have as many bugs as in the Mozilla Bugzilla 11:57:17 <Mic> ;) 11:57:34 <flo> hmm 11:57:46 <flo> are we looking forward to having half a million bug reports? :) 11:59:43 <Amfi> Sorry guys... 11:59:44 <Mic> Instead of having to work on bugs, we could spend all our time with replying on bug reports maybe? ;) 12:00:05 <Mic> No worries, Amfi 12:01:21 <Mic> lunch time! 12:01:31 <Mic> A welcome distraction from doing .. nothing today 12:01:54 <flo> ahah 12:02:13 <flo> This morning I spent all my time doing paperwork (yeah, with real paper sheets...) 12:03:57 <Mic> I've done all that stuff that needs no input from others already 12:04:20 <Mic> and about 90% of my workgroup at university are at a conference (from which I had to return early) .. 12:04:20 <flo> I need some input and some signatures from others too... 12:04:50 <Mic> So I guess today and tomorrow will be quite calm and uneventful days 12:05:18 <Mic> bbl 12:05:57 <flo> arg, I love OpenOffice... 12:06:29 <flo> I have a document with ONE page, I increase the size of the font in one paragraph. I notice it makes the line wrap, and that I end up with a line on a second page. 12:06:33 <flo> I undo the last action 12:06:53 <flo> all my content is back on a single page, but the second page remains there, with just noting in it. 12:07:01 <flo> so much "nothing" that I can't even put the cursor there 12:07:07 --> deOmega has joined #instantbird 12:12:20 <flo> I have to go. Good afternoon :) 12:12:28 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 12:34:10 <-- Amfi has quit (Ping timeout) 12:41:42 <Mic> re 12:43:03 <deOmega> yes Mic? :) 13:02:04 <Mic> hello deOmega 13:02:56 <deOmega> Hi Mic. Just thought I would hang in here today 13:07:55 <Mic> I'm not sure how exciting it is going to be in here today;) 13:08:51 <deOmega> who knows.. maybe I will see some upcoming features posted :) 13:13:54 <Mic> instantbot: entertain us 13:13:56 <instantbot> Mic: Sorry, I've no idea what 'entertain us' might be. 13:14:01 <Mic> a pity .. 13:14:07 <deOmega> lol 13:21:33 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 13:26:16 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 13:48:29 --> Amfi has joined #instantbird 13:53:31 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 14:04:52 --> DetroitLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 15:41:20 <-- deOmega has left #instantbird () 16:00:38 --> flo has joined #instantbird 16:00:38 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 16:23:19 <flo> Mic: uh, not very entertaining in fact :-/ 16:25:25 <-- DetroitLibertyPenguin has left #instantbird () 16:31:00 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 16:39:00 * tymerkaev is now known as tymerkaev-afk 16:42:15 * tymerkaev-afk is now known as tymerkaev 18:32:30 --> flo has joined #instantbird 18:32:30 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 19:23:59 <Amfi> Hey guys :) 19:24:11 --> Wareczek has joined #instantbird 19:24:22 <Amfi> I'm trying to set up my irc channels... 19:24:23 <Wareczek> Amfi buraku :D 19:25:42 <Amfi> In account details I may enter a channel to automatically connect upon IB startup... (Wareczek: WyjÄ!) 19:26:01 <Amfi> Is there any way to enter more than 1 channel for a server? 19:27:10 <Wareczek> Amfi, where should I wyjÄ? 19:27:53 <Wareczek> and why? :( 19:34:23 <-- Wareczek has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 19:34:27 --> Wareczek has joined #instantbird 19:37:36 <-- Wareczek has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 19:37:38 --> Wareczek has joined #instantbird 19:39:29 <-- Wareczek has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 19:39:31 --> Wareczek has joined #instantbird 19:39:33 <-- Wareczek has left #instantbird () 19:39:39 --> Wareczek has joined #instantbird 19:39:40 * Gizmokid2005|AFK|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK 19:39:43 <-- Wareczek has left #instantbird () 19:39:53 * Gizmokid2005|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005 19:41:11 --> Wareczek has joined #instantbird 19:48:43 <-- Wareczek has left #instantbird () 19:58:44 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 20:09:50 --> Ruyan has joined #instantbird 20:17:25 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 20:17:40 <Mic> good evening 20:25:03 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 20:25:05 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 20:25:41 <flo> Amfi: when you join a channel, you can check the "auto-join" checkbox to have this channel automatically added to the list 20:25:44 <Mic> Amfi: use a comma separated list to join more than one channel at once 20:26:07 <flo> if you want to change it from the account details, it's a comma separated list (as Mic just said :)) 20:26:08 <Mic> hehe, someone reading the logs simultaneously? ;) 20:26:51 <Amfi> So will it go like #channel1,#channel2,#instantbird ? 20:27:58 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Connection reset by peer) 20:31:34 <Amfi> yep, it works. Thanks! :) 20:42:50 <Ruyan> flo: I got NS_ERROR_UNEXPECTED when creating trying GetConnectionReady(&ready) in purpleStorage 20:43:22 <flo> so you upgraded your thunderbird? 20:43:33 <Ruyan> yes 20:43:38 <Ruyan> classes is loaded 20:44:31 <Ruyan> but when I want create account using creatAccount, got NS_ERROR_UNEXPECTED, then i found the database is not created 20:45:35 <flo> do you have a debug build that shows in the terminal all the errors in C++ code? 20:45:36 * instantbot mumbles something about c++ being evil 20:46:36 <Ruyan> Thunderbird? nop, but I'm working on it to compile TB with debug 20:54:40 <Mic> Wednesday I tried compiling IB for the first time .. 20:54:56 <flo> Mic: did it work? :) 20:54:58 <Mic> Failed ofcourse and I didn't had the time to investigate why 20:55:23 <Mic> It was missing something as far as I could tell (some necko-wifi library?) 20:55:32 <flo> ah 20:56:02 <flo> you can just add a --disable-<something I can't remember> in the mozconfig and bypass that error 20:56:41 <Mic> It said as much, I just didn't know where to add it;) 20:57:11 <flo> the file "mozconfig" at the root of the source tree 20:58:01 <Mic> ok, I'll try this next time 21:00:21 <Mic> btw are you doing some arcane conjuring to activate spellchecking on the conversation input box or why does it fail in a way that I can't tell anything about? 21:01:13 <Mic> I've tried to activate/deactivate spellchecking on Firefox and it worked as expected (even though it was a document and not chrome content) 21:01:45 <flo> are you talking about something specific to instantbird on your 64bit ubuntu, or about the broken preference in the advanced tab? 21:01:56 <Mic> The borken preference 21:02:04 <Mic> *broken 21:02:10 <Mic> It's neither working here nor there 21:02:20 <Mic> (ie Windows and Ubuntu 64) 21:02:27 <flo> it doesn't work at all 21:02:48 <Mic> The setting gets set, but it's not doing anything on the input box 21:03:01 <flo> as soon as there's a "spellcheck" attribute on a XUL textbox, it forced the spellchecker to be enabled, bypassing the pref (which I guess was designed for HTML content...) 21:03:23 <flo> if we don't put that attribute, the context menu of the textbox as no spellchecker related items at all (not even the checkbox to enable it) 21:04:27 <Mic> I guess not putting it there won't add the spellchecker's menuitem to the context menu? 21:04:44 <flo> *has 21:04:46 <Mic> So the solution is to put it there and deactivate it right ahead if the setting is disabled 21:05:02 <flo> yeah... :( 21:05:03 <Mic> ah, ok. 21:05:23 <flo> and add an observer to observe changes of the preference value 21:06:18 <flo> if we decide that the user can't disable the spellchecker in a conversation and leave it enabled in an other, I guess it can be relatively easy to do 21:06:36 <Mic> This is possible right now 21:06:43 <flo> I know 21:06:57 <flo> it's possible, but is it useful? 21:07:03 <Mic> I think the idea was to even allow different languages 21:07:20 <flo> that's a different issue 21:07:25 <Mic> So in cases where you don't have a dictionary you might want to disable it 21:07:41 <Mic> (and here's the link;) 21:07:49 <flo> I'd really like the system to auto detect the language of the conversation, and change the language of the spellchecker accordingly 21:08:46 <flo> in case you don't have the right dictionary, we can probably detect it too 21:08:50 <Mic> Is there an easy way to extract the last few messages from a conversation? 21:08:59 <Mic> I'm afraid that it's not :S 21:09:13 <flo> being able to detect which dictionary is missing and downloading it automatically in the background would be awesome, but I don't know how to do it :-D 21:09:47 <flo> there will be a way to do that. Someday :). 21:10:22 <flo> at some point we want to be able to close a conversation window and reopen it exactly the same, so we will need a way to get all the previous content 21:11:17 <Mic> I was thinking more of 'now' ;) 21:12:00 <flo> well, for 0.2 anybody talking usually in several languages will think our spellchecker sucks terribly (I do) 21:13:35 <Mic> Where would the task of telling which language it is belong? 21:13:43 <flo> (hmm, it seems I'm too tired this evening to make sentences that are grammatically correct... sorry about that :() 21:14:12 <flo> Mic: a simple way to do it is to just detect the language of what is currently being typed. 21:14:32 <flo> and default to the language that was detected before (while the previous message was being typed) 21:15:12 <flo> there's a firefox add-on doing that: http://design-noir.de/mozilla/dictionary-switcher/ 21:15:47 <Mic> I'd really like to give some feedback to the user if we switch dictionaries 21:16:21 <Mic> e.g. a sort of smart tag at the far end of the input box, showing the determined language and a drop down to change the setting or something like this 21:16:29 <Mic> *detected 21:17:01 <flo> the firefox add-on puts the current language in the status bar 21:17:09 <flo> I think it would make sense to do the same in Instantbird 21:17:29 <Mic> I like the idea of smart tags .. they're unobtrusive 21:17:48 <flo> if more than one dictionary is installed, then display the name of the in-use dictionary in the status bar of each conversation, and automatically detect which one is the most suitable for the current text being typed. 21:18:22 <flo> I'm not sure what you call a "smart tag" 21:18:35 <Mic> Have you ever seen auto-completion in MS Office? 21:18:35 <flo> is it an icon that appears contextually when hovering something? 21:19:13 <Mic> Sort of 21:19:22 <flo> I've never used a version of Word newer than 2002 21:19:59 <Mic> ok 21:21:08 <Mic> It can appear as small blue bordered box at the place where something has happened (compact mode) or as panel just big enough to hold and icon and a drop down arrow so the user can open a menu 21:21:33 <Mic> The small box expands to the icon when hovered 21:30:01 <Mic> hehe, "Die Hose war fort" ("the trousers were gone") is a german sentence that works with en-US spell checking :D 21:31:38 <Mic> I wonder what to do with words that are matched as correct by more than one language/dictionary .. maybe just ignore them? well, that's something that has time to be decided when it gets implemented 21:39:37 <Mic> good night 21:39:53 <flo> I think it just doesn't matter 21:40:05 <flo> the detection is not going to be perfect 21:40:15 <flo> it will just be helpful in most cases 21:40:28 <flo> good night :) 22:02:03 <Mic> now finally good night 22:02:55 <Mic> even though I have something interesting to say about detecting languages via similiarity of encoding trees of compressed text 22:03:03 <Mic> Another time ;) 22:03:47 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 22:30:08 <-- Ruyan has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 22:41:25 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 22:48:01 <-- idechix has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 23:24:14 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout)