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05:47:09 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 06:47:55 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 06:52:16 --> Amfi has joined #instantbird 06:52:18 <-- Amfi has quit (Quit: Amfi) 06:52:31 --> Amfi has joined #instantbird 06:52:40 <-- Amfi has quit (Quit: Amfi) 06:53:01 --> Amfi has joined #instantbird 07:07:26 <-- SM0TVI has quit (Connection reset by peer) 07:12:37 --> SM0TVI has joined #instantbird 09:10:54 <-- Amfi has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 09:29:02 --> gaspo has joined #instantbird 09:34:28 --> Amfi has joined #instantbird 10:34:27 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Connection reset by peer) 10:36:12 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 10:36:23 <Mic> hi 10:40:23 <gaspo> hi 10:53:11 <Amfi> hi 10:56:29 <-- Amfi has quit (Ping timeout) 10:59:21 --> Amfi has joined #instantbird 11:28:30 <Mic> Here's a first sketch of an article that should hold a list with frequently used terms and a definition for each of it 11:28:32 <Mic> https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Using_terms_consistently 11:29:19 <Mic> It should help to refer to the same thing with the same words every time which makes it easier to avoid confusion 11:29:39 <Mic> Feel free to add any ideas, suggestion or talk about it 11:29:46 <Mic> *suggestions 11:34:14 <Amfi> How would you like to keep that multilingual? 11:38:27 <Amfi> Wouldn't it be better to provide users with a simple proper documentation in every lang? 11:41:38 <Mic> hmm? 11:41:47 <Mic> What's this is about is: 11:41:58 <Mic> Say "buddy" when you mean one 11:42:11 <Mic> Not "contact" if you mean "buddy" and so on .. 11:42:52 <Mic> There should be an unambiguous definition for each term 11:43:10 <Mic> gtg 11:44:49 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 11:51:22 <gaspo> I just saw this in brainstorm pref window..: 11:51:22 <gaspo> Find a shorter wording for the sounds preference. 11:52:12 <gaspo> I think "enable sounds" its short enough, no? :) 11:58:20 <Amfi> I don't think whether it's about enabling/disabling the sound but rather about choosing a sound theme. 12:16:01 --> flo has joined #instantbird 12:16:01 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 12:20:59 <flo> Mic: (for when he is back) my intuition about bug 396 is that the user has installed strantini instant, and is hitting bug 375 12:21:02 <instantbot> flo: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=396 maj, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, No text. 12:21:03 <instantbot> flo: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=375 nor, --, 0.2, florian, RESO FIXED, Split the instantbird skin package to remove defaults from 3rd party themes. 12:35:21 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 13:04:17 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 13:04:26 <Mic> hi 13:13:31 <-- gaspo has left #instantbird () 13:13:52 <Mic> Amfi: even (or especially) when writing a proper documentation you should keep an eye on how you phrase things. 13:14:16 <Mic> It doesn't help if the user has to think about what you meant with something when you could have stated it clearly and unambiguous in first place 13:14:55 <Amfi> sure, i fully agree 13:16:06 <Amfi> However, i would prefer to see separate documentations for each lang instead of one page on wiki in all supported languages. 13:16:30 <Amfi> A kind of F1 with index and grouped FAQs. 13:18:48 <Mic> The page I started is only targeted at developers 13:19:05 <Mic> It should contain a table with content like this: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/208 13:20:11 * tymerkaev is now known as tymerkaev-afk 13:20:18 <Mic> The idea is to exactly know what is meant when writing about things (eg on bug reports) or labelling/describing UI elements 13:20:46 <Amfi> oh, it's just for developers! that is the part that explains everything! 13:20:55 <Amfi> moreover, i like the idea ;) 13:20:56 * tymerkaev-afk is now known as tymerkaev 13:34:05 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Connection reset by peer) 13:58:00 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 13:59:23 --> DetroitLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 14:15:55 --> r0bin has joined #instantbird 14:16:52 <r0bin> Afternoon 14:21:49 <Chaz6> G'day 14:24:31 <flo> hi :) 14:31:45 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 14:31:56 <instantbot> leeraccount@yahoo.de added attachment 292 to bug 393. 14:31:57 <instantbot> leeraccount@yahoo.de requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 292 on bug 393. 14:31:59 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=393 min, --, ---, leeraccount, NEW, Setting the delay for "idle after..." allows a value of zero minutes 14:32:24 <Mic> Minor bug fixing ;) 14:33:18 <flo> the patch isn't too complicated :) 14:33:59 <flo> what happens if from about:config you set a value of for example 5? (the value stored in the preferences is in seconds, and we display it in minutes in the UI) 14:35:45 <Mic> It gets rounded 14:35:57 <Mic> And the constraint is respected 14:36:13 <Mic> So 5 seconds gives 1 minute on the UI 14:36:15 <flo> so will the simple fact of opening the prefwindow change the value of the setting? 14:36:24 <Mic> 91 seconds gives 2 minutes 14:37:22 <Mic> I haven't checked yet 14:37:47 <Mic> no 14:37:57 <Mic> It's kept until you enter something 14:38:04 <flo> perfect! :) 14:38:10 <Mic> Just focusing the field doesn't change anything either 14:38:46 <flo> you are not testing this on Windows (where changes are applied only when clicking "Ok"), right? 14:38:56 <Mic> I'm testing it on Ubuntu 14:39:02 <flo> :) 14:39:02 <Mic> ie "instantApply" 14:41:37 <-- r0bin has quit (Client exited) 14:42:15 --> r0bin has joined #instantbird 14:43:32 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 14:43:44 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 15:01:48 --> miglaugh has joined #instantbird 15:03:14 <miglaugh> Is there a known issue with the beta release failing to launch? 15:03:21 <flo> no 15:03:24 <flo> which OS? 15:03:32 <miglaugh> Windows 15:03:37 <miglaugh> Xp 15:03:45 <-- miglaugh has quit (Quit: pwnd by 3g) 15:03:49 --> miglaugh has joined #instantbird 15:04:06 <miglaugh> 0.1.3.1 word 15:04:07 <flo> what do you mean by "failing to launch"? 15:04:14 <miglaugh> Works 15:04:56 <miglaugh> But when either the auto installing update occurs or if I dl the 0.2 release and unpack manually. Instantbird won't launch 15:05:21 <flo> auto installing update? 15:05:32 <miglaugh> Not launching means the exe pops up in process explored for a second and dies. No ui ever shows up. 15:05:57 <flo> not even the crash reporter, or an error message? 15:06:26 <miglaugh> Nothing, blank screen 15:08:31 <miglaugh> Could there be some profile stuff that's incompatible between versions? I haven't tried cleaning the system 100% of instantbird traces and starting fresh. 15:09:13 <flo> the only time I've seen something that completely prevented the UI from showing, it was a buggy DLL in the system. A logitech mouse driver I think. 15:09:56 <miglaugh> Hmmm, interesting. I'll take a look around. 15:10:57 <miglaugh> This is the first IM client I've run into that can handle MSN without exploding every 2 minutes. Keep up the good work. 15:11:10 <flo> :) 15:12:16 <-- r0bin has quit (Quit: r0bin) 15:18:14 <-- miglaugh has quit (Quit: pwnd by 3g) 15:25:12 --> miglaugh has joined #instantbird 15:25:22 <-- miglaugh has left #instantbird () 15:36:48 <flo> a tutorial to explain how to click "next" on each step of the installer. I can't believe it :-D http://im.about.com/od/downloads/ss/instantbird-download-for-windows.htm 15:39:08 <Amfi> Well... :D 15:39:25 <Amfi> At least they've mentioned thhat ib is exciting ;) 15:39:32 <flo> yes :) 15:40:14 <Amfi> So who is Courtesy? 15:40:45 <flo> and it's visible at http://im.about.com/ 15:41:06 <Mic> Courtesy is not a name 15:41:33 <Amfi> Damn, i thought it was a nickname xD 15:41:47 <Mic> ;) 15:49:06 --> miglaugh has joined #instantbird 15:50:31 <miglaugh> Fwiw, running 0.2 beta launched sucessfully after i deleted the profiles and stuff under 'application data'. 15:50:53 <flo> surprising 15:51:02 <flo> but... great for you I guess :) 15:51:07 <miglaugh> Guess there was something hidden under the old profile it didn't like. 15:51:25 <miglaugh> Yep works like a charm now. 15:51:29 <flo> :) 15:52:18 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 15:52:30 <Mic> flo: Is extensions.enabledItems a 'reliable' source? That is: is it containing a correct value in any case? 15:52:45 <flo> I don't know 15:53:09 <Mic> ok .. I would have used it to filter enabled/disabled themes 15:53:21 <Mic> Let's see.. 15:53:49 * flo suggests looking in the source code with mxr 15:54:26 <-- miglaugh has quit (Quit: pwnd by 3g) 16:04:31 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 16:07:50 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 16:11:29 <Mic> flo: have you noticed the progress on a new extension manager? 16:11:45 <flo> yes 16:12:38 <flo> I think I even posted a link here to the post announcing add-on installation without restart :) 16:33:47 * Mic just scanned over a "future notifications" article and wonders when the first megapixel-icons will be introduced :/ 16:34:07 <Chaz6> Who cares, we already have svg icons :) 16:34:14 <Chaz6> I'm still looking forward to ultra-high dpi displays 16:34:33 <Mic> Sure, but we don't have that now .. 16:34:53 <Mic> It might look nice on big screens but there are still people having lower resolutions 16:36:15 <Chaz6> svg should display just as well in any resolution, at least no worse than a regular bitmap image 16:36:36 * Gizmokid2005|AFK is now known as Gizmokid2005|AFK|AFK 16:36:46 <Mic> exactly 16:37:21 <Mic> Unfortunately you can't do some things that you can with bitmaps 16:38:07 <Mic> gtg 16:38:11 <Mic> good bye 16:38:34 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 16:39:08 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 17:00:03 --> gaspo has joined #instantbird 17:03:36 <-- gaspo has left #instantbird () 17:19:39 * tymerkaev is now known as tymerkaev-afk 17:19:49 * tymerkaev-afk is now known as tymerkaev 17:25:38 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 17:49:02 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Connection reset by peer) 18:16:06 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 18:16:15 <-- idechix has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 18:16:22 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 18:16:37 <-- idechix has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 18:16:43 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 18:23:55 <-- Amfi has quit (Ping timeout) 18:41:40 --> NawMoz has joined #instantbird 18:55:33 --> gaspo has joined #instantbird 18:55:44 <-- gaspo has left #instantbird () 19:13:59 --> flo has joined #instantbird 19:13:59 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 19:43:37 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 19:43:48 <Mic> ' evening 21:12:51 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: get satisfied! :: www.unitedservers.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 21:30:15 <-- NawMoz has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.8/20100202165920]) 21:37:21 --> Amfi has joined #instantbird 21:55:48 --> Ruyan has joined #instantbird 22:01:12 <-- Ruyan has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 22:40:46 --> gaspo has joined #instantbird 22:54:01 <-- idechix has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 23:35:35 <-- DetroitLibertyPenguin has left #instantbird () 23:58:23 <-- Amfi has quit (Ping timeout)