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Add me to your configuration file, and help me take over the world of IRC.) 08:44:19 --> SM0TVI has joined #instantbird 08:56:55 --> gaspo has joined #instantbird 09:12:53 <gaspo> Hi guys .. Im new to IB .. and I just want to tell you .. I really like it :) 09:13:01 <flo> :) 09:15:39 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Client exited) 09:18:09 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 09:19:03 <flo> is there anything you particularly look forward to see improved? 09:22:08 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Ping timeout) 09:23:43 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 09:23:59 <gaspo> yes, there are few things.. group/contact management, file transfers .. but this is expected in next version, right? I found also few bugs, but they are mostly already reported 09:25:34 <gaspo> I'd like to see minimize to tray at least as installed addon as default, if not fully implemented into application 09:26:26 <gaspo> also when you click in taskbar, when somebody sent u an message, it should show the tab with new messages, not the las one opened. 09:29:55 <gaspo> and the tray icon could be shown even if its not minimized, with some right-click options 09:32:24 <gaspo> aaah. and one important thing. History .. I know there are conversation logs, but I'd like to have last few sent messages shown when I open new conversation 09:35:09 <flo> we will need time of course, but all that is planned :) 09:36:08 <flo> hmm, I'm not sure about "when you click in taskbar, when somebody sent u an message, it should show the tab with new messages, not the las one opened." 09:36:20 <flo> I think we have discussed this once and there were pros and cons 09:47:11 <gaspo> ok. maybe you're right .Im gonna test tray notifications . :) 09:47:25 <-- gaspo has left #instantbird () 09:48:23 --> gaspo has joined #instantbird 09:48:55 <gaspo> ah. sorry, minimizeToTray is not working as expected :) 09:49:26 <gaspo> I hit 'close' button and it really closed IB :D .. 09:50:26 <flo> yeah, I know we need to work on having a good system tray icon by default 09:51:35 <gaspo> ok. notification review - when somebody send me a message, it shows notification, but when I click it, it doesnt bring conversation window to front . I will try if it works if its closed. 09:51:44 <-- gaspo has left #instantbird () 09:52:26 --> gaspo has joined #instantbird 09:55:49 <gaspo> hmm. when I get message while my conversation window is closed, it will auto-open the window. It will be good to have an option for this. hmm maybe this will do something : 09:55:49 <gaspo> messenger.options.getAttentionOnNewMessages set false. testing :) 09:57:03 <gaspo> no this disables taskbar button bliok I think :) .. ok as I said, it will be good to have an option in preferences to disable auto-open new window 09:57:38 <flo> "disable auto-open"? 09:57:55 <flo> how would you like to be notified of new conversations? 10:00:24 <gaspo> I think its enough to see blink taskbar button/tray icon and also the notification message in tray, and open new window only when I click them 10:02:26 <gaspo> btw, minimize to tray addon stop working after restart. it shows as enabled, but have no affect 10:20:44 --> iLobster has joined #instantbird 10:20:58 <iLobster> Greetings 10:21:06 <gaspo> hi 10:23:37 <iLobster> gaspo, which version of MinimizeToTray revived are you using? 10:23:51 <gaspo> 0.5.2 10:24:31 <iLobster> try 0.5.4 from http://tn123.ath.cx/mintrayr/ 10:25:50 <-- gaspo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b2) 10:26:28 --> gaspo has joined #instantbird 10:27:19 <gaspo> great, it works. thank u. Why it couldnt find its own update? 10:27:42 <-- gaspo has left #instantbird () 10:29:15 --> gaspo has joined #instantbird 10:29:58 <gaspo> thanx for help. 10:32:09 <gaspo> I hope it will work after restart :) brb 10:33:04 <-- gaspo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b2) 10:33:06 --> gaspo has joined #instantbird 10:33:39 <gaspo> yes it works . 10:35:15 <iLobster> btw, flo, may be it's necessary to update MinimizeToTray revived on addons.instantbird.org to last version 0.5.4? This addon is fairly popular and stuff... 10:41:35 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 10:52:01 <tymerkaev> hey flo, l10n buildbot is broken? 11:35:21 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Connection reset by peer) 11:37:31 <flo> iLobster: I'm not responsible at all for this add-on, ... 11:40:37 <gaspo> /users 12:07:13 <Chaz6> flo, did you see that screenshot i posted yesterday? 12:07:17 <Chaz6> flo: http://imgur.com/4skic 12:07:32 <flo> yes 12:08:00 <Chaz6> Is it possible? 12:10:58 <flo> I don't know the details of how this bot is handled 12:11:03 <flo> is it a multi-user-chat ? 12:21:21 <-- gaspo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b2) 12:21:26 --> gaspo has joined #instantbird 12:23:23 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 12:24:31 <gaspo> flo, one more little bug .. when 1st time connecting to icq, IB stops responding for about 3 seconds. win7, IB version 0.2pre (20100321041756) and also released 0.2b2 12:38:40 --> DetroitLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 12:52:57 --> flo has joined #instantbird 12:52:57 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 13:08:00 <Chaz6> flo no it is just a regular chat 13:08:22 <Chaz6> The easiest way to set it up is to go to https://www.tweet.im/ 13:08:39 <flo> ah, so the images are included with <img> tags and are loaded from the web? 13:12:42 <Chaz6> As i understand it, yeah 13:13:01 <Chaz6> I will try to get a raw xml dump 13:13:52 <flo> I have one 13:14:50 <flo> <span><img src="http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/418653186/twitter_tweet-im_normal.png" alt="avatar"/> <a href="http://twitter.com/tweet_im">Tweet.IM</a> (tweet_im): ... </span> 13:15:27 <flo> by default in Instantbird we filter-out of the HTML anything that is likely to break your privacy 13:15:46 <Chaz6> Okay, perhaps we could have an option "enable loading external content", something like th at 13:15:49 <Chaz6> Maybe with a warning 13:15:50 <flo> (if anything makes an HTTP request when displayed, the sender of the message can know when you look at the message, and if you look at it again in the future) 13:16:18 <Chaz6> They only know when the client displayed it :) 13:16:32 <Chaz6> I don't mind about that personally, but i would at least like the option 13:16:43 <flo> the system was designed so that it's easy for add-on to change filtering rules 13:16:57 <Chaz6> I think that is a basic requirement for a client 13:16:59 <flo> so i guess an add-on could white list that bot 13:17:08 <Chaz6> To at least have a global setting 13:17:30 <Chaz6> I agree an extension would be needed to fine-tuine it 13:17:37 <Chaz6> e.g. content types, buddies, etc 13:17:41 <flo> a global setting to break your privacy without warning? 13:17:43 <Chaz6> Yes 13:18:12 <flo> that's scary, not I can't figure out any "valid" usecase for it 13:18:15 <Chaz6> I want it :p 13:18:22 <Chaz6> So I can see these images 13:18:25 <Chaz6> That are currently hidden 13:18:26 <flo> this twitter bot is obviously a workaround for the lack of native twitter support 13:18:52 <Chaz6> i'm trying to get it supported by statusnet also (identi.ca/etc) 13:19:03 <Chaz6> statusnet provides a native xmpp service 13:20:32 <Chaz6> As a user I would like to be able to decide for myself whether external content is loadedf 13:20:40 <Chaz6> I understand your concern, but I know the risks 13:20:55 <flo> the average user is completely unaware of the risk 13:21:22 <Chaz6> So as i said, put a warning with the option, but at least have it there 13:22:04 <flo> as an add-on 13:22:29 <Chaz6> An add-on can let you fine-tune the settings, but there should be a global setting built into the client 13:22:57 <flo> there should be a valid usecase 13:23:36 <Chaz6> Okay, I give up. 13:23:38 <Chaz6> You win. 13:24:01 <flo> we should remove 2 preferences each time we add one :) 13:27:01 <flo> there's a createDerivedRuleset function in the filtering API. Its purpose is to let an add-on author customize the filtering for a specific conversation 13:51:40 <Amfi> When will be the time to localize add-on section? :> 13:54:16 <-- Amfi has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b2) 13:54:21 --> Amfi has joined #instantbird 14:28:13 --> FStyle has joined #instantbird 14:28:55 <-- FStyle has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6/20100115144158]) 14:33:26 <-- iLobster has left #instantbird () 14:45:33 <flo> I don't know. 14:52:18 <Amfi> Not yet? 14:54:44 <flo> Even is the one taking care of that website. 14:56:59 <Amfi> Let's hope he will read that ;) 15:02:42 --> tymerkaev has joined #instantbird 15:14:31 <-- gaspo has left #instantbird () 15:44:40 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 15:59:40 <tymerkaev> !bug 368 15:59:43 <instantbot> tymerkaev: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368 nor, --, 0.2b2, florian, REOP, Context menu items displaced 15:59:53 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 16:30:57 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 17:25:03 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 17:51:38 --> flo has joined #instantbird 17:51:38 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 18:11:11 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 18:25:28 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 18:25:48 <-- idechix has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 18:25:56 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 18:26:09 <-- idechix has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 18:26:17 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 19:25:29 --> Wareczek has joined #instantbird 19:26:26 <-- Wareczek has quit (Connection reset by peer) 19:27:05 --> Wareczek has joined #instantbird 19:29:22 <-- tymerkaev has quit (Connection reset by peer) 19:36:51 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 19:47:12 <-- Wareczek has left #instantbird () 20:00:23 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 20:30:42 --> gaspo has joined #instantbird 20:31:53 <-- gaspo has left #instantbird () 20:59:56 <-- Amfi has left #instantbird () 21:01:28 --> Amfi has joined #instantbird 21:02:39 <-- Amfi has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 21:02:41 --> Amfi has joined #instantbird 21:03:36 <-- Amfi has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 21:03:39 --> Amfi has joined #instantbird 21:03:58 <-- Amfi has quit (Connection reset by peer) 21:04:08 --> Amfi has joined #instantbird 21:10:17 <-- Amfi has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre) 21:29:02 <-- DetroitLibertyPenguin has left #instantbird () 21:32:08 --> leba has joined #instantbird 21:32:42 <leba> hi guys can i ask a question? 21:33:03 <flo> wasn't this already a question? 21:33:18 <leba> lol yes so can i ask two lol 21:33:35 <flo> I thought this was already the second question :-P 21:33:47 <leba> no fair lol 21:34:04 <flo> seriously, ask your question ;) 21:35:02 <leba> im trying to set up the facebook tab and im getting a message of "Error invalid XMPP ID " do you know what im doing wrong? 21:36:13 <leba> or can you talk me through step by step each bit so it sets up right? 21:38:12 <leba> Hello flo, can you help? any idea's? 21:39:24 <flo> so, this is with 0.2beta2, and you are using the "Facebook" protocol which is now included by default? 21:39:55 <leba> yes the newist one i only just started using it 21:40:24 <leba> started using Instantbird that is 21:41:15 <flo> what have you put in the "username" field when adding your facebook account? 21:41:53 <leba> i put my email address the account is linked to 21:42:05 <leba> left domain and resource as it is 21:43:39 <flo> ok, so that's the problem 21:44:00 <leba> what should be in that box then please? 21:44:32 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 21:44:34 <flo> you facebook unique identifier 21:44:57 <leba> how would i find that out? 21:45:33 <flo> I think that's explained at http://www.facebook.com/sitetour/chat.php 21:46:13 <leba> ok ill go have a read, thanks for your help. 21:48:51 <flo> np 22:01:12 <leba> Hi flo still cant get it to work even when using this page http://www.facebook.com/sitetour/chat.php#!/help/?faq=16739 22:01:29 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 375 to FIXED. 22:01:32 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=375 nor, --, 0.2, florian, RESO FIXED, Split the instantbird skin package to remove defaults from 3rd party themes. 22:01:49 <flo> so, you have found your username? 22:02:21 <leba> i found in my settings i had not got one so i have now set one up. FB settings that is 22:03:08 <flo> so in http://www.facebook.com/username/ you see it? 22:03:44 <leba> yes its just the bit after facebook i use isnt it 22:03:57 <flo> yes 22:03:58 <leba> like facebook.com/name 22:04:07 <leba> so i would be using just name 22:04:16 <leba> thats what i was oing 22:04:19 <flo> have you logged out the website and then back in since you set your username? 22:04:21 <leba> doing* 22:04:35 <leba> no will try that now 22:07:22 <leba> oh how stupid a 101 school boy error lol 22:07:35 <leba> im going to go hang my head in shame thanks flo 22:07:47 <flo> typo in the password? 22:08:01 <leba> no just needed to log in then out lol 22:08:25 <flo> that's just facebook's stupidity... 22:08:48 <flo> there's no good reason for a user to think about logging out and back in after the username has been created... 22:09:12 <leba> yep, might be worth setting up a fan page on it with the instructions on how to set it up right 22:09:19 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/1fe91d235538 - Florian Quèze - Bug 375 - Split the instantbird skin package so that 3rd party themes don't have to include sound, emoticon and message themes. 22:09:38 <flo> I think they give the instruction 22:09:57 <flo> but who reads the instructions anyway? ;) 22:10:08 <leba> me lol 22:10:13 <flo> it should just work without instructions 22:10:14 <leba> but thanks anyways 22:10:52 <flo> np 22:11:36 <-- leba has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b2) 22:12:05 --> leba has joined #instantbird 22:12:14 <-- leba has quit (Quit: leba) 22:33:22 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 23:03:02 <-- idechix has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2pre)