#instantbird log on 03 13 2010

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05:05:27 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> wtf, who does the linux nighly link to a .txt file?
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05:53:36 <Mic> Good morning
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06:25:19 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 380 filed by leeraccount@yahoo.de.
06:25:20 <instantbot> leeraccount@yahoo.de added attachment 283 to bug 380.
06:25:21 <instantbot> leeraccount@yahoo.de requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 283 on bug 380.
06:25:22 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=380 enh, --, ---, leeraccount, NEW, Show findbar on log viewer content
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12:06:16 <flo> Mic: I wonder if the content of the preference extensions.enabledItems contains what you want
12:09:10 <Mic> hmm, I didn't know this one ..
12:09:17 <Mic> (apparantly;)
12:12:14 <Mic> When you're answering questions anyways what about this one: can I fetch the result of an command without it appearing on the the chat?
12:12:48 <Mic> I'm thinking of IRC commands here like "/topic","/mode",..
12:13:31 <instantbot> tymerkaev@gmail.com added attachment 284 to bug 368.
12:13:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368 nor, --, 0.2b2, florian, RESO FIXED, Context menu items displaced
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12:44:40 <Wareczek> hi :)
12:45:12 <Wareczek> guys, did you have sth like that in yours IB:
12:45:12 <Wareczek> http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/3883/22323643.png
12:45:12 <Wareczek> ?
12:45:37 <Mic> https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/attachment.cgi?id=284
12:45:57 <Wareczek> ok :D
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12:50:09 <Mic> Wareczek, tymerkaev-afk: are the "Show offline buddies" label and the groups in the "Move to..." submenu aligned properly on the buddy list context menu?
12:50:32 <Chaz6> It could be nice to be able to rename the account username
12:50:46 <Chaz6> for example, I wish to change the yahoo logon name to one of the account aliases
12:51:08 <Wareczek> Mic: no, it's wrong too :/
12:51:19 <Mic> Can you do a screenshot as well?
12:52:47 <Mic> I'd like to see if it is the thing reported in bug 368 or more like 371 (even though they both seem to have their origin in the moved icon on the menu items)
12:52:51 <instantbot> Mic: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368 nor, --, 0.2b2, florian, RESO FIXED, Context menu items displaced
12:54:09 <Wareczek> http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4669/ib2.png
12:55:20 <Mic> thanks, I'll reopen 368 then
12:55:33 <Mic> I will attach your screenshots there
12:55:38 <Mic> if you don't mind
12:55:43 <Wareczek> no problem :)
12:58:10 <Mic> That is a current nightly?
12:58:16 <Wareczek> yes
13:00:09 <Wareczek> 0.2pre (20100311073832) ;)
13:01:00 <instantbot> leeraccount@yahoo.de added attachment 285 to bug 368.
13:01:02 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368 nor, --, 0.2b2, florian, RESO FIXED, Context menu items displaced
13:01:20 <instantbot> leeraccount@yahoo.de cleared the Resolution 'FIXED' from bug 368.
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13:02:30 <tymerkaev-afk> Wareczek: you have this problem after 0.2b2pre upgraded to 0.2pre?
13:04:12 <Wareczek> wait, I need to check something, brb
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13:05:24 <Wareczek> yes, this bug is after upgrade to 0.2pre
13:05:36 <tymerkaev-afk> Wareczek: Now I know that it has not only me (and in both cases, Windows 7) xD
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13:05:55 <Wareczek> I've Win7 too :P
13:06:59 <tymerkaev> flo fixed bug with "Context menu items displaced" -> http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/d51ec379a0fe 
13:07:38 <tymerkaev> but he forgot or didn't understand my report
13:09:24 <tymerkaev> Wareczek: See more information here: https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368#c3
13:09:27 <instantbot> tymerkaev: Bug 368 nor, --, 0.2b2, florian, REOP, Context menu items displaced
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13:11:54 <tymerkaev> ...
13:15:32 <instantbot> leeraccount@yahoo.de added attachment 286 to bug 368.
13:15:34 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368 nor, --, 0.2b2, florian, REOP, Context menu items displaced
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13:25:23 <tymerkaev> Mic: Please don't duplicate attachments.
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13:31:04 <flo> Mic: "can I fetch the result of an command without it appearing on the the chat?" I don't think so.
13:31:30 <flo> commands are currently handled exclusively by libpurple, and it's not nearly as extensible as I would like. (probably something we will completely rewrite one day...)
13:37:11 <flo>  /dev/null is a nice group name :)
13:38:56 <flo> this build id: "0.2pre (20100311073832)" is the last nightly before the check-in of the fix for bug 368
13:38:59 <instantbot> flo: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368 nor, --, 0.2b2, florian, REOP, Context menu items displaced
13:39:30 <flo> so the screenshot from Wareczek that you attached as attachment 285 doesn't worry me.
13:40:04 <flo> Tymerkaev's screenshot in attachment 284 is a lot more annoying :(
13:41:36 <flo> Apparently, with the way the menuitems are displayed on Windows 7, there's no way we can correctly display both an icon and a checkmark. Not sure which one we should remove.
13:47:45 <Chaz6> I would just have an icon, no checkbox
13:48:32 <Mic> Maybe making the active opaque and the others pretty transparent?
13:49:36 <Mic> Even though we haven't used it like this yet (only on protocol icons so far)
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15:12:37 <tymerkaev> instantbot bug 368
15:12:40 <instantbot> tymerkaev: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368 nor, --, 0.2b2, florian, REOP, Context menu items displaced
15:14:52 <tymerkaev> flo: You read Comment 3?
15:19:47 <tymerkaev> flo: you must backed out one of changesets made in last 4 days if you want fix that bug. ;)
15:21:05 <tymerkaev> flo, I found it! -> http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/ab882069a2ea
15:30:27 <instantbot> tymerkaev@gmail.com added attachment 287 to bug 368.
15:30:29 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368 nor, --, 0.2b2, florian, REOP, Context menu items displaced
15:37:01 <Mic> Here's a mockup using different transparencies (there's a typo in the filename, I know):
15:37:01 <Mic> https://wiki.instantbird.org/File:Statusmenu,different_transperency.png
15:57:15 <tymerkaev> Mic: Do you have access to http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/?
15:57:24 <flo> tymerkaev: a pure backout is not a solution, we would have the same problem as before again.
15:57:46 <flo> on your screenshot the "before" image is acceptable on Win7, but on WinXP it was very ugly.
15:58:34 <tymerkaev> ah?
16:00:41 <tymerkaev> I think that you must fix that bug before beta2. ;)
16:00:44 <flo> Mic: that looks confusing to me. If don't think a user would instantly guess what the transparency means. The user would probably have to think about it, which is worse than not providing the information at all
16:00:50 <tymerkaev> flo: maybe you had bug in your patch?
16:00:59 <flo> tymerkaev: yeah, we need to fix that...
16:01:45 <tymerkaev> hmm, I have an idea
16:01:56 <flo> the whole approach was wrong. I didn't know the menus were displayed like that on win7 (with a vertical line between the icon and the text)
16:02:32 <flo> this seems to be the best I can do for beta2: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/201
16:04:18 <flo> it will remove the checkmark, except in the menubar on Mac.
16:05:45 <Mic> Why can you choose the active status in the first place?
16:06:05 <Mic> (I wouldn't like the following, but anyways)
16:06:18 <flo> what does your question mean?
16:06:25 <tymerkaev> flo: Can you send me a screenshot of how it looks on XP (before)?
16:06:31 <Mic> It could be left out from the list so there would be no need for a checkmark
16:07:13 <flo> tymerkaev: I don't think I have one at hand. Basically, the checkmark replaced the icon, and was smaller than the icon, making the menu look inconsistent.
16:07:53 <flo> Mic: I still don't see your point :(
16:08:52 <Mic> If you're currently in status available, why should this status be on the popup? If you're away, why should away be listed?
16:09:07 <flo> ah
16:09:18 <tymerkaev> flo: believe me, on 7 it looks more ugly
16:09:34 <flo> tymerkaev: I saw your screenshot ;)
16:10:27 <Mic> I wouldn't like that the order gets changed in a way but that's my opinion
16:10:43 <flo> Mic: the reason why it's listed and useful is that if you think "I want to become away and set a message", you don't have to think first about which status you currently have
16:11:24 <flo> also, it's important for people to form habits to make sure that the items are always in the same places
16:11:34 <Mic> "/away My new message" ? ;)
16:11:43 <flo> not discoverable
16:11:44 <tymerkaev> flo: On Windows additional icons is not allowed ;D
16:12:16 <flo> tymerkaev: right. Have you seen my pastebined patch? I think we will just remove the checkmark
16:12:44 <tymerkaev> flo: I saw your patch
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16:12:50 <tymerkaev> flo: Maybe you can change the default checkmark?
16:13:12 <deOmega> good day.  
16:13:26 <flo> by the way, about discoverability. I was wondering yesterday what would be the effect of a "Did you know?" blogging campaign. Blogging every week a description with screenshots, etc... of a feature that is useful but that may have gone unnoticed
16:13:42 <flo> for example, status commands, the findbar, zoom in conversations, ...
16:14:02 <flo> deOmega: hi
16:14:17 <deOmega> Hi flo:  is it possible as yet to group the log by date, as opposed to sessions? Or could that be a user option?
16:14:32 <flo> currently, no.
16:14:46 <flo> the log viewer is very dumb, and only lists the log files that are on the disk
16:14:52 <tymerkaev> flo: OS's ugliness is not your concern.
16:14:56 <flo> the files are created by libpurple, we have almost no control on them
16:15:13 <deOmega> ok,  thank you very much.  
16:15:39 <flo> obviously, we want to change that someday ;)
16:15:50 <flo> deOmega: you may be interested in https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/addon/227
16:16:30 <deOmega> Oh MY!  YES!!
16:16:51 * Mic turns brightness of his screen from 50 to 100..
16:16:56 <Mic> ah, nice :)
16:17:19 <flo> "17:12:51 - tymerkaev: flo: Maybe you can change the default checkmark?" having a second set of icons with the checkmark directly included in the icon is something we have considered
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16:18:01 <flo> that would look native on none of the OSes though, so I really didn't like that idea
16:18:04 <tymerkaev> ...
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16:18:39 <deOmega> This is  great :)
16:18:40 <flo> ahah, offering an apparently nice addon seems to be the fastest way to ensure someone leaves the room :-D
16:19:08 <flo> deOmega: I haven't tried it myself, just seen the screenshot... and if reminded me our discussion.
16:19:09 <deOmega> Yes sir :)
16:19:42 <deOmega> yes.. this is  really the way..  i am having somf font color issues.. but  will adjust that
16:22:04 <deOmega> what is teh defauly message style?  I  don't know if I am seeing it
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16:23:19 <flo> bug 375
16:23:23 <instantbot> flo: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=375 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Split the instantbird skin package to remove defaults from 3rd party themes.
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16:25:18 <deOmega> ok.. it has some bugs, but this is anice start regardless
16:25:41 <deOmega> it does not work with  what seems to be  the three or so default theme options
16:26:39 <deOmega> I will post on the site.... I am not able to get the look he has on the site.. so  it may just be  theme or something
16:27:37 <deOmega> *style or something
16:28:15 <flo> I think he has installed https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/addon/221 too to make that screenshot
16:29:12 <deOmega> thank you.. doing that now
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16:40:59 <Ruyan> flo, i use strace, but nothing found, you know where is component classes saved? only in the .so files?
16:41:17 <flo> yes
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16:43:04 <flo> what was the command line you used?
16:43:09 <Ruyan> interfaces are in .xpt yes? do i need also .h which comes with .xpt from .idl
16:43:59 <Ruyan> to compile instantbird?
16:44:08 <flo> to start it with strace
16:44:17 <Ruyan> strace -fF
16:45:04 <flo> ok
16:45:18 <flo> and then you grep'ed for .so ?
16:45:32 <Ruyan> ee
16:46:01 <flo> have you compiled instantbird with the same version of mozilla that is used by your thunderbird?
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16:47:31 <deOmega> I was able to make some  changes and it is  fine now
16:47:44 <deOmega> except..  still not getting the message style he has
16:47:49 <Ruyan> not sure, because i used command from wiki, and debian has icedove and mozilla installed
16:48:10 <deOmega> I have to run an errand, will explore when i return.. thanks for everything
16:48:20 <flo> no problem
16:48:27 <flo> have a nice week-end ;)
16:49:55 <Ruyan> there is xulrunner 1.9 installed in the debian lenny
16:50:24 <flo> oh, you have used the xulrunner sdk of the system?
16:51:46 <Ruyan> yes, debian default configure
16:51:58 <flo> debian default configure of instantbird?
16:53:11 <Ruyan> i have downloaded latest xulrunner-sdk(mozilla source), but i didn't install it.
16:53:47 <flo> your component is much more likely to work if it is compiled using the same version of the mozilla source code
16:55:02 <Ruyan> instantbird is showing "Gecko 1.9.1b2"
16:55:03 <flo> to build Instantbird using an SDK installed in the system, you need to add this line to the mozconfig file: ac_add_options --with-libxul-sdk=<path>
16:56:42 <Ruyan> ok, i'll try it now
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17:09:17 <Mic> flo: could you half-op someone for a moment?
17:21:00 <flo> /halfop Mic
17:21:05 <flo> hmm, what's the command?
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17:26:08 * ChanServ sets mode +h Morian 
17:26:16 <flo> Mic: done :)
17:27:40 * Morian sets mode -v instantbot 
17:27:44 * Morian sets mode +v instantbot 
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17:29:50 <Morian> haha, the power is mine
17:30:15 <Morian> now I can go back sleeping and thinking of my domination of the world.
17:30:54 <flo> domination seems very relative in this case
17:31:37 <flo> I tried to +h Mic too but ChanServ replied: "(notice) Channel HOP lists may only contain registered nicknames."
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17:34:44 <Morian> ah
17:37:26 <Mic> http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1777/newircicons2.png
17:37:54 <Mic> More Mozilla, less Pidgin :)
17:39:31 <flo> heh, instantbot doesn't even react to the word "Pidgin" like it does for C++ ;)
17:39:32 <instantbot> c++ is evil
17:40:41 <tymerkaev> instantbot Mic
17:40:42 <instantbot> tymerkaev: um... mic is Michal (Mic) Berman <mic@mozilla.com>, MoCo l10n/distributions co-ordinator
17:40:55 <tymerkaev> 0_o
17:41:36 <flo> Mic: you shouldn't have told instantbot to forget about you ;)
17:41:50 <flo> know it relies on its friend firebot
17:42:40 <Ruyan> sorry for my stupid questions, have another problem:/bin/sh: ../../mozilla/nsprpub/config/nspr-config: not found
17:42:42 <Ruyan>   /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lsoftokn3
17:42:42 <Ruyan>     collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
17:43:23 <flo> do you have nspr-config somewhere on your system?
17:44:58 <Ruyan> nop, i didn't found it under xulrunner-devel-1.9 under /usr/lib
17:45:29 <Ruyan> just under mozilla from instantbird sources
17:47:32 <flo> nspr may be installed somewhere else on your system
17:48:36 <Ruyan> /usr/lib/libnspr4.so
17:49:08 <Ruyan> and /usr/include/nspr/
17:49:19 <Ruyan> how can i redirect path
17:52:35 <Mic> instantbot: Mic is great
17:52:36 <instantbot> Mic: But mic is 'Michal (Mic) Berman <mic@mozilla.com>, MoCo l10n/distributions co-ordinator'...
17:53:13 <tymerkaev> instantbot: Why Mic is great?
17:53:16 <instantbot> tymerkaev: Sorry, I've no idea what 'Why Mic is great' might be.
17:53:37 <tymerkaev> instantbot: tymerkaev
17:53:40 <instantbot> tymerkaev: Sorry, I've no idea who you are.
17:53:51 <Mic> good bye
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17:54:59 <Amfi> flo: we're ready with the Polish locale. There will be no more changes to 0.2b2.
17:55:15 <flo> cool :)
17:56:00 <tymerkaev> Amfi: Your locale ready too?
17:56:33 <Amfi> ready, tested, prepared to be built in :)
17:56:44 <flo> French is almost ready too
17:56:48 <tymerkaev> ah
17:56:57 <tymerkaev> ru ready too
17:57:30 <Amfi> so how many versions will we have? en, pl, ru, fr?
17:57:35 <flo> yes
17:57:56 <flo> here is a draft of the release notes: http://queze.net/goinfre/download-0.2b2.html
17:57:57 <Amfi> that's a nice leap
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17:59:07 <Amfi> nice
17:59:21 <tymerkaev> flo: Where Installer for Windows? I see only .zip files.
17:59:36 <flo> I will change these links
17:59:48 <flo> I don't know yet if we will link only to the installers, or to both the zip and installers
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18:03:20 <flo> possible blog post: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/202
18:04:17 <tymerkaev> flo: Exist ru-l10n@instantbird.org really?
18:04:27 <flo> not yet
18:04:56 <tymerkaev> ah
18:05:27 <tymerkaev> I pointed ru-l10n@instantbird.org as contact with translators :(
18:07:14 <flo> I can make it redirect to your gmail address before releasing 0.2b2 if you want
18:07:32 <tymerkaev> flo: yes, I want
18:07:55 <flo> ok, I added it in my todo list
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19:29:11 <Ruyan> can i use --with-nspr=<PATH>?
19:29:20 <flo> yes
19:30:18 <Ruyan> what about /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lsoftokn3
19:35:44 <tymerkaev> flo: Bug 368 will be fixed in tomorrow's nightly?
19:35:47 <instantbot> tymerkaev: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368 nor, --, 0.2b2, florian, REOP, Context menu items displaced
19:37:41 <flo> Ruyan: that's NSS
19:41:12 <Ruyan> I think i need just compile purple, how can i compile it without compiling whole instantbird
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19:41:39 <flo> tymerkaev: yes.
19:41:52 <tymerkaev> flo: thanks
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19:42:24 <flo> Ruyan: your compile error is probably in a file from purple/ anyway
19:44:28 <Ruyan> yes
19:45:03 <Ruyan> when trying to compile purple/libpurple
19:47:33 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/e53617019130 - Florian Quèze - Bug 368 - Remove check mark on status type menuitems (except in the menu on Mac).
19:47:34 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/d89fa2f91bd7 - Florian Quèze - Bug 368 - Remove check mark on status type menuitems (except in the menu on Mac).
19:50:09 <Ruyan> when i install mozilla-dev, it's will be better?
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19:50:49 <flo> I don't know. I've never compiled Instantbird using a debian SDK
19:51:23 <Ruyan> I'm going to try it.
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20:22:21 <Ruyan> nothing, I really don't know what to do now.
20:32:24 <deOmega> hi flo:  you are right.. per teh developer..he is using planet mozilla, but I do not know how he got it to look that way. I will have to tweak and see
20:33:12 <deOmega> additionally,  he made a comment about  why the default message styles are not working
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21:09:17 <flo> deOmega: he reported bug 375
21:09:20 <instantbot> flo: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=375 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Split the instantbird skin package to remove defaults from 3rd party themes.
21:09:46 <deOmega> thank you flo
21:16:26 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted blocking0.2 on bug 375.
21:16:28 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=375 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Split the instantbird skin package to remove defaults from 3rd party themes.
21:27:07 <deOmega> awesome :)
21:27:51 <deOmega> truly exciting developments all around
21:30:25 <deOmega> i am not the sharpest tool in teh shed :)...  I assumed the options window was a message style.. my mistake
21:30:52 <deOmega> on teh  stratini black  capture
21:32:19 <deOmega> SO i am using 'blackened'  style at the moment, but will  try to find one with  a timestamp
21:32:28 <deOmega> again...  thankful
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22:06:37 <Ruyan> flo: when i install xulrunner-sdk from mozilla.org, then how can i change the path directly to xulrunner which i have installed instead local under instantbird
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22:07:51 <flo> 17:55:02 - flo: to build Instantbird using an SDK installed in the system, you need to add this line to the mozconfig file: ac_add_options --with-libxul-sdk=<path>
22:16:09 <DGMurdockIII> 2(flo2): check this out http://mirrorbrain.org/ is an open source framework to run a content delivery network using mirror servers. It solves a challenge that many popular open source projects face - a flood of download requests, often magnitudes more than a single site could practically handle.
22:19:44 <flo> we have only 2 servers right now
22:19:48 <flo> and both are located in France
22:20:05 <flo> so I'm not sure using geolocation to decide which server to use would be of great help :-/
22:20:39 <DGMurdockIII> what do you use to run the server
22:21:18 <flo> what do you mean by "run the server"?
22:23:13 <DGMurdockIII> do you use Lighttpd
22:23:18 <flo> no
22:25:14 <DGMurdockIII> what do you use
22:25:30 <flo> FreeBSD, Apache, PHP, MySQL.
22:26:03 <DGMurdockIII> have you thougt about using a light weight web server
22:26:18 <flo> no
22:26:58 <flo> the server isn't currently saturated
22:27:04 <DGMurdockIII> the only one i thnk that could benfet from it right now is the addon site
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22:27:53 <flo> that site would need better caching of the pages
22:29:33 <Ruyan> what is difference between sdk in the instantbird and local
22:31:57 <flo> I don't understand the question
22:33:35 <deOmega> instantbot: what day is it?
22:33:38 <instantbot> deOmega: Sorry, I've no idea what 'what day is it' might be.
22:34:14 <deOmega> instantbot: date?
22:34:17 <instantbot> deOmega: Sorry, I've no idea what 'date' might be.
22:34:19 <flo> it's still saturday for 26minutes in Instantbot's timezone
22:34:24 <Ruyan> have mozilla in instantbird source any extra packages than normal in local system
22:37:18 <flo> deOmega: by the way, why this question? :)
22:38:12 <deOmega> lol
22:38:14 <deOmega> sorry
22:38:15 <deOmega> http://i41.tinypic.com/qrhxqa.jpg
22:38:30 <deOmega> was trying to  get this image without capturing anyone's conversations
22:39:37 <deOmega> I am very pleased there. :)
22:40:30 <deOmega> It pulls the user icons in im's so no problem there..  just not the instantbird user's as yet
22:40:34 <deOmega> not an issue
22:41:10 <flo> is the screenshot for a bug report to the theme author?
22:41:48 <deOmega> no.. showing off :)
22:42:19 <flo> the blue background behind the tab looks strange to me, I'm not sure it was "expected"
22:43:13 <deOmega> ah..  it grew on me from another messenger.
22:43:24 <deOmega> oh wait
22:43:32 <deOmega> I am sorry, i know what you mean yes
22:43:50 <deOmega> I do not like it.. it is  microsoft's default't baby blue
22:43:54 <deOmega> I do not like it
22:44:37 <deOmega> it is there even without the theme..  I think i complained about that before
22:44:48 <deOmega> maybe a year ago :)
22:45:29 <deOmega> If you use teh default firefox theme on widows 7 or vista, you get it also
22:45:43 <flo> right, the "default theme" ;)
22:46:12 <deOmega> same for all the mozilla based products except songbird
22:46:26 <deOmega> OH lol..  I gotcha
22:46:55 <deOmega> I will send to the developer see if he would bother with it.. good point
22:51:56 <flo> :)
22:52:12 <deOmega> Thank you.. suggestion sent.. will see is he does anything.. :)
22:58:20 <deOmega> have agreat day..   heading out
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23:13:26 <Ruyan> flo: it's softokn3 an windows library
23:14:02 <flo> it's part of NSS
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23:41:22 <Ruyan> flo: what are you using the OS
23:43:51 <flo> Mac OS X 10.5, and Ubuntu 64bits
23:48:37 <Ruyan> ubuntu is same like debian, can you send me all .so? and also .so,.xpt from Mac OS 
23:48:47 <Ruyan> my mail kamilruan@gmail.com
23:51:09 <flo> no
23:51:23 <flo> unpack a nightly build
23:52:29 <flo> good night