#instantbird log on 03 12 2010

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08:22:16 <flo> hi :)
08:22:51 <flo> Amfi: are you interested in trying a "fixed" installer with regards to the search plugin, or do you just "trust me" that my fix works? :)
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08:45:19 <tymerkaev> flo: Bug 368 INCOMPLETE "fixed"
08:45:22 <instantbot> tymerkaev: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368 nor, --, 0.2b2, florian, RESO FIXED, Context menu items displaced
08:45:39 <flo> ?
08:46:57 <tymerkaev> Problem with "Set Status to ..." not fixed
08:47:46 <tymerkaev> in "File" menu
08:48:03 <flo> haven't you said it was the same in minefield nightlies?
08:49:10 <tymerkaev> but Instantbird 0.2 is now on m1.9.2?
08:49:15 <flo> yes
08:49:49 <tymerkaev> Minefield use m1.9.3a
08:50:21 <tymerkaev> What's up?
08:54:29 <flo> I don't know. I can't reproduce the bug you should on your screenshot. (and I think it's not necessarily a duplicate of bug 368, which I think is fixed)
08:54:33 <instantbot> flo: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368 nor, --, 0.2b2, florian, RESO FIXED, Context menu items displaced
09:32:50 <Amfi> flo: we always prefer to try any release candidates. however, if you say it will be fixed, we will surely trust you.
09:33:29 <flo> there will be another release candidate, really based off the code we will release
09:33:38 <Amfi> on the other hand, may the english search engines be taken from my profiles folder from previous english installation?
09:33:59 <flo> the installer I provided yesterday was just from my machine, and it looked more like a nightly than like a release candidate ;)
09:34:12 <flo> no, there was really a bug ;)
09:34:25 <Amfi> ok, whatever ;)
09:35:04 <Amfi> As for us it was fine.. we made some more changes but those will always be performed..
09:37:44 <flo> was this intended: https://hg.instantbird.org/l10n/pl/repos/rev/acddc031c501 ?
09:42:51 <Amfi> I'm not sure why he's removed those strings..
09:43:43 <Amfi> All I know is that he's added that js file so that IB could be run smoothly on mac - as he described
09:43:47 <flo> Amfi: updated installer. Same url as yesterday.
09:44:52 <flo> The js file is used for repackaged builds. It's the file that sets the default language that the application will use. (when using a langpack, you go to about:config to change a preference for that)
09:45:41 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/dcca8e001532 - Florian Quèze - Fix packaging of localized files in the Windows installer.
09:45:42 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/963c33b963ca - Florian Quèze - Use a stable (1.9.2.1) revision of Mozilla.
09:45:43 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/513a5dd5f6f3 - Florian Quèze - Fix l10n repackaging (works at least on Mac).
09:45:44 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/04dea033c785 - Florian Quèze - Fix langpack creation.
09:45:45 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/ff4b6e449658 - Florian Quèze - Fix packaging of the custom CRT in Windows installers.
09:45:46 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/f304c991e01c - Florian Quèze - Bug 368 - Context menu items displaced.
09:45:47 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/d6434d006a0e - Florian Quèze - Fix packaging of localized files in the Windows installer.
09:50:02 <Amfi> flo: we've got only polish search engines now. Thanks :)
09:51:52 <flo> np :)
09:54:17 <Amfi> got to go... See you all in the evening!\
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10:03:34 <Mic> hello
10:03:51 <flo> hey
10:17:02 <Chaz6> G'day
11:00:18 <Mic> flo: about validation of buddy names on the "Add buddy" dialog:
11:00:52 <Mic> wouldn't it be best if protocols would bring their own method to check whether a buddy name is valid for them or not?
11:01:48 <Mic> The UI's job would reduce to call the method and eg disable the "Add" button if it isn't
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11:02:28 <Mic> (read "protocol extensions")
11:03:19 <Mic> Anything else would be special casing a few protocols that we know that are there and leave custom/others
11:03:41 <Mic> (at least what it looks like on a first glance)
11:08:32 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 378 filed by leeraccount@yahoo.de.
11:08:43 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=378 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Validation of nicknames on dialogs/wizards
11:11:26 <Chaz6> Why not just send whatever the user puts in, and return the error from the protocol server?
11:11:36 <Chaz6> Don't bother trying to do any validation at all
11:12:02 <Chaz6> The server may change their validation rules from time to time
11:15:59 <Mic> When you get such an error it's too late already in my opinion
11:16:08 <Mic> You've got to show an error message
11:16:26 <Mic> The user has to go back to the dialog and enter the name anew..
11:16:42 <Chaz6> You can keep the name and show the error, you don't even have to close the dialog
11:16:55 <Chaz6> If there's an error, simply add it to the dialog
11:17:10 <Chaz6> Only close the dialog when they click cancel or the name is accepted by the server
11:17:34 <Mic> hmm, but you've got no live feedback whether the name was valid
11:17:41 <Mic> *if
11:17:54 <Chaz6> Sure you do, you show it in the dialog if the server rejects it
11:18:07 <Chaz6> Or do you mean before it is submitted to the server?
11:18:34 <Mic> yep, you type and see if it's a valid name because otherwise a message is shown or the add button is disabled or something like that
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11:19:53 <Mic> btw attach your suggestion to the bug if you've got time, not that it gets lost somewhere in the log files
11:20:30 <Chaz6> okay will do
11:21:15 <Mic> bug you're right: the rules would need maintenance (but all of the extension does if something gets changed server-side)
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15:54:36 <flo> anybody interested in proof-reading the release notes? http://queze.net/goinfre/download-0.2b2.html
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16:00:49 <iLobster> Greetings
16:00:53 <flo> hi
16:10:43 <iLobster> I have some thoughts about current logviewer: it's possible to call "Find Bar" panel with Ctrl+F combination of keys, but it does take a guess about this, it is not clear when you open logviewer. So, why not to have "Find Bar" panel already opened (called) when you open logviewer? My imho.
16:14:04 <flo> sounds like a good idea
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17:08:14 <tymerkaev> flo: Where installer for Windows?
17:08:58 <tymerkaev> ah
17:09:01 <tymerkaev> no flo
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18:23:33 <instantbot> leeraccount@yahoo.de added attachment 281 to bug 338.
18:23:34 <instantbot> leeraccount@yahoo.de requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 281 on bug 338.
18:23:35 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338 tri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Notification bar above the 'no accounts' message
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18:45:23 <instantbot> leeraccount@yahoo.de added attachment 282 to bug 363.
18:45:24 <instantbot> leeraccount@yahoo.de requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 282 on bug 363.
18:45:25 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=363 tri, --, ---, leeraccount, NEW, Loading the Themes prefpane is slow
18:49:54 <Mic> good evenin
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19:35:05 <Mic> flo: can't I add a function/method to a binding with the following procedure?
19:36:04 <Mic> add <method name="functionName"><body>...</body></method> and access it from another method using this.functionName(); ?
19:40:00 <Mic> The result is "function not defined" being reported to the error console
20:02:51 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 379 filed by leeraccount@yahoo.de.
20:02:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=379 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, When connecting an account, set its status to the general status
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20:36:16 <DGMurdockIII> di you guys get you GSoC application submitted yet
21:08:21 <flo> DGMurdockIII: yes.
21:08:52 <flo> Mic: if "this" points to the binding, this should work.
21:09:16 <flo> in event handlers, this usually points to the node that received the event, not the owner of the called method
21:11:44 <Mic> :)
21:11:45 <Mic> Thanks
21:12:12 <Wareczek> good night guys :)
21:12:22 <Mic> Doesn't work for delete from the context menu now, but cutting and pasting does send typign notifications here :)
21:13:29 <flo> :)
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21:15:40 <flo> bug 379 will probably need more details.
21:15:43 <instantbot> flo: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=379 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, When connecting an account, set its status to the general status
21:18:23 <Mic> I sprang to conclusions too fast on this
21:19:09 <Mic> The thing with "always online" is wrong
21:19:59 <Mic> I'll add steps to reproduce
21:27:26 <flo> there's probably an issue with newly created accounts
21:29:07 <Mic> I experienced it first on existing accounts
21:29:24 <Mic> Ones that I use every day 
21:39:06 <flo> hmm, isn't that bug specific of the oscar protocol plugin?
21:39:28 <flo> anyway, we will need to debug that... :(
21:40:47 <Mic> I just tried ICQ as I don't have any other protocols that I have two accounts for to check the status from 'remote'
21:45:21 <flo> I remember having the same issue on AIM a long time ago
21:45:30 <flo> it already existed before we have the status bar
21:46:08 <flo> Getting away, disconnecting the AIM account, Getting back, reconnecting the AIM account --> it was still marked as away, but all other accounts where available.
21:48:58 <flo> good night
21:49:31 <Mic> good night
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