#instantbird log on 03 05 2010

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10:16:29 <Mic> hej hej
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10:30:23 <Chaz6> Morning
10:31:37 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 356 filed by leeraccount@yahoo.de.
10:31:41 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356 tri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Doesn't highlight first item in log file list
10:36:05 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/007ec9f69b4f - Florian Quèze - Bug 272 - Popup a warning when closing a conversation window with unread messages.
10:36:07 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/5126e2edf1b8 - Florian Quèze - Bug 310 - The 'add buddy' dialog should have a default group.
10:36:08 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/03d3c1b284b0 - Florian Quèze - Bug 264 - The warning when closing multiple conversations should respect plural rules.
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10:44:19 <Mic> Some of them are also on the wiki bugs list
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16:01:37 <Mic> Morian: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/198
16:01:44 <Mic> Impressive, isn't it? ;)
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16:27:28 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 310 to FIXED.
16:27:30 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=310 nor, --, 0.2b2, florian, RESO FIXED, The 'add buddy' dialog should have a default group
16:27:58 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 264 to FIXED.
16:28:00 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=264 min, --, 0.2b2, florian, RESO FIXED, The warning displayed when closing several tabs at once should honor plural rules.
16:28:29 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 272 to FIXED.
16:28:31 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=272 nor, --, 0.2b2, florian, RESO FIXED, Popup a warning when closing a conversation window with unread messages
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16:36:25 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/604792606059 - Florian Quèze - Make 'Search for text when I start typing' pref work in conversations.
16:36:26 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/6fba173a912e - Florian Quèze - Remove leftover from the Firefox application manager.
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18:25:40 <Amfi> hi :)
18:26:07 <Amfi> I don't really like that change in message while closing a conversation with unread messages..
18:26:28 <Amfi> It again introduces a problem with plurals
18:30:13 <Mic> hi
18:31:13 <Mic> Different plural forms depending on whether the messages were send by a man or woman? ;)
18:32:35 <Amfi> No, different regarding different plurals for '3 conversations' and '5 conversations' ;)
18:33:36 <Amfi> So far I have used a translation that matches 2-4 as rarely you have more windows with unread messages
18:33:53 <Amfi> But I believe we need to think about rephrasing it from scratch
18:34:37 <Mic> I've no idea what's possible with plural rules and what not
18:36:04 <Amfi> If flo will decide to leave it as it's now, we will need to use sth like: 'A number of conversations with unread messages: #1. Are you sure you want to continue?'
18:36:50 <Amfi> Btw, is there a way to make TortoiseHG remember my pass while pushing changes to the serv?
18:37:23 <Mic> What about "There are several conversations (#1) with unread messages. ..."
18:38:27 <Amfi> We will think about it..
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18:38:58 <Amfi> I have already posted a problem on our forums, so I hope other translators will come up with the best solution ;)
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18:39:55 <Mic> Suggestion: add a "Summon flo" command to instantbot ;)
18:40:50 <flo> Amfi: hi
18:41:11 <flo> "<Amfi> I don't really like that change in message while closing a conversation with unread messages.." I think you do like it ;).
18:41:28 <flo> before the change, it was the exact same strings but with the english plural rule hardcoded
18:41:33 <Morian> Mic: I added the textbox, I still have some CSS to o around it to have it on the right and it's ok, thanks
18:41:48 <flo> (one string for 1 and one string for more than 1)
18:43:22 <Mic> Morian: hehe, you ... kept the IDs of the input boxes as I see ;)
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18:45:52 <Amfi> I still don't like how it is handled ;)
18:47:17 <flo> but the change is an improvement anyway ;)
18:57:16 <Amfi> Will the version 0.2b2 have its own installer?
18:57:53 <flo> yes
18:58:10 <Amfi> Great!
18:59:20 <flo> we will stop doing changes early next week, and I hope the beta will be released during the week
19:00:09 <flo> we may not have to change any string at all between the beta and the final 0.2, so the final may happen quite quickly after the beta. I hop so at least :).
19:01:50 <Amfi> It will give a year between two stable releases :)
19:02:49 <flo> but so much happened during that year... ;)
19:03:47 <Amfi> Yeah, but you know... The world is going to end in 2012 - I would like to use the v1.0 before I die :D
19:03:57 <flo> :)
19:04:16 <flo> may I suggest an add-on to change the displayed version number? :)
19:04:35 <flo> like, removing the "0." for people who are afraid of it :)
19:04:51 <Amfi> That would keep me alive!
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19:11:46 <Chaz6> I'm the opposite, I prefer versions under 0
19:11:48 <Chaz6> i mean, under 1
19:12:15 <Chaz6> It's more fun using something in development, i can find bugs more easily
19:12:54 <Amfi> but you may not use it for everyday or suggest it to the friends...
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19:13:39 <Chaz6> Oh i absolutely do!
19:14:31 * deOmega was so excited waiting for the nightlies for the updates posted Wednesday :)
19:17:57 <flo> Chaz6: and knowing it's unfinished let some place for dreams about future features ;)
19:18:24 <flo> deOmega: and you were disappointed?
19:18:48 <deOmega> lol..   onlyby  there not being any  new nightlies for windows :)
19:19:26 <Amfi> haha!
19:19:56 <Chaz6> flo - exactly :)
19:20:43 <deOmega> Seriously, I hav enot had any updates for 2 days now
19:22:15 <flo> the mac nightlies have been failing for 3 days. Seems like an issue with the DNS server used by the machine
19:22:49 <flo> both the linux and windows nightlies failed today because of a code change on the mozilla side, which required a change on our server too. (should be fixed for tomorrow)
19:23:42 <flo> and the previous day, the windows machine failed in an ununderstandable way.
19:25:43 <flo> deOmega: you were waiting for the "Keep the last non-offline status message to reuse it in the status selector when going back online." change?
19:28:27 <deOmega> yes yes
19:28:35 <deOmega> Thank you for teh update
19:28:41 <deOmega> THAT is what i was waitiing on
19:29:10 <flo> just to make sure you are not going to be disappointed: the status is kept when you switch the status to offline and then back to something else, not when you restart (I think this would be easy to do in an addon though)
19:29:34 <deOmega> ohhhh
19:29:51 <flo> I'm almost sure idechix made that in an add-on a few months ago.
19:29:53 <deOmega> I thought was restart
19:31:32 <flo> (the offline status is useful if you are on a laptop, you need to move/go somewhere you don't have internet access (a train for example) and want to read your conversations while there, and then you want to continue your conversations when you get back online, with the same windows and the same conversation history)
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19:34:32 <deOmega> makes sense
19:34:39 <deOmega> makes sense
19:36:06 <DGMurdockIII> when i right click now there is remove dose that remove a buddy from my list
19:36:27 <Amfi> Is there any place where we may post our addon requests?
19:37:08 <DGMurdockIII> not sure
19:37:28 <DGMurdockIII> i did not now we could request addons
19:38:07 <idechix> Amfi: I'm sorry but in general people don't request addons, they just do it... ^^
19:39:19 <Amfi> idechix: I am aware of the fact, but still.. there are some features in other IMs that cannot be requested as a default feature and maybe some codder may find those ideas useful while devloping their own addons
19:40:37 <idechix> I think this is the good place to make suggestions ;)
19:40:55 <Amfi> It is quite a popular way of communication between modders and community in IP.Board world ;)
19:41:14 <idechix> ^^
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19:47:26 <DGMurdockIII> 2(Amfi2): you mean like a forum
19:48:19 <Amfi> I mean any place where I could write about more or less useful requests ;)
19:49:06 <Mic> Amfi: you need a place where others are likely to read it as well ;)
19:49:56 <Mic> We have this one page on the wiki ..
19:50:13 <Mic> .. I'm just not sure how many people ever have a look at it.
19:51:21 <Mic> https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:extension_wish_list
19:52:13 <Mic> ah :)
19:53:00 <Mic> Maybe put it on the brainstorming page .. that's what they're for: ideas and discussing about it
19:53:18 <Mic> https://wiki.instantbird.org/Brainstorm:general_brainstorming
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19:53:58 <Mic> It's been accessed three times as often as the other article (even though I'm not sure in which span of time)
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20:15:51 <flo> the goal with the extension_wish_list wiki page is to make sure that we don't loose track of ideas we have discussed.
20:16:11 <flo> it's obviously not a good way for users to send their suggestions
20:17:04 <flo> I think at some point we will install IdeaTorrent to encourage users to provide as many ideas as possible, and let people vote and comment about them
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21:45:29 <flo> hi
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22:03:36 <flo> good night
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