#instantbird log on 02 24 2010

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00:15:27 <rnr> http://ie6funeral.com/ :D
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01:05:16 <rnr> now we just gotta get a funeral for messenger live :D
01:05:32 <rnr> with instantbird taking its place
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05:49:12 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/699fadea4d81 - Florian Quèze - Bustage fix for MSVC compilation (follow up to b256d8544bc5).
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07:48:47 <flo> hi :)
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10:21:57 <Mic> Hej hej
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11:20:41 <Chaz6> goddag
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11:34:53 <Amfi> Hey flo, I talked to Wareczek and we still do not receive any emails after the push has been performed
11:35:21 <Amfi> The most annoying is the fact, that in this message we always got the strings that have not yet been translated
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13:06:43 <deOmega> gm IB
13:33:54 <flo> hi :)
13:34:45 <Chaz6> Hiya
13:35:55 <flo> Amfi: That's annoying :(.
13:36:33 <flo> I guess it would make sense to replace these emails with a webpage for each locale containing the list of untranslated strings or the link to the testable .xpi file
13:37:25 <flo> Even if you receive them correctly, a problem with the emails we currently send is that you have the result just after your push, but are not alerted when we add in the code repository new strings that need translated
13:42:49 <Mic> just a question: how do you tell which ones are already translated?
13:43:17 <flo> Mic: a script is run automatically each time something is pushed to a locale repository
13:43:17 <Mic> by comparing each with what it shouldn't be (ie the untranslated one?)
13:43:34 <flo> ah, no. When a string is not translated, it is missing
13:43:48 <Mic> ah, ok. I thought it might contain the untranslated string
13:44:12 <flo> if the translators decide to include first all the original untranslated strings and commit that, we can't do anything to help them... 
13:44:21 <flo> (translated strings are sometimes identical)
13:44:36 <flo> for example "Minute" is the same in english and in french
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14:20:31 <Mic> Are there any usuable tools or is it a "text editor-job"?
14:20:44 <flo> text editor for now
14:21:10 <Mic> Are they doing it for Fx and Tb the same way?
14:21:23 <Mic> I can't imagine that someone hasn't created a nice tool for the job ..
14:22:17 <flo> several people have created tools.
14:22:55 <flo> as far as I know, none of these is good enough to be used by teams that haven't developed it :-/
14:45:23 <Mic> added this to our wishlist
15:06:26 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 348 filed by amfidiusz@fwl.pl.
15:06:28 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Reconnect not working with gadu-gadu
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15:26:33 <deOmega> this last  update  ...
15:26:57 <flo> any problem with it?
15:27:08 <deOmega> I had the  show idle status unchecked.. but it checked it
15:27:17 <flo> ah
15:27:20 <flo> sorry about that
15:27:26 <deOmega> i went in to uncheck it..   and  the program crashed
15:27:30 <flo> all the idle handling was re-implemented, the pref name have changed
15:27:40 <flo> have you sent the crash report?
15:27:41 <deOmega> ah,,  coool
15:27:49 <deOmega> yes i did
15:29:17 <deOmega> I also keep having the problem with minimize to tray on probably every 3rd update.. where i have to disable, restart,  enable, restart, for it to work
15:29:39 <deOmega> I suppose i should  keep that version for refernce  until it goes away completely
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15:37:03 <iLobster> deOmega: which version of MinimizeToTray addon do you use?
15:38:38 <deOmega> hi..   the latest.. let me check.
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15:39:06 <deOmega> 0.5.2
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15:40:47 <iLobster> try last 0.5.4 http://tn123.ath.cx/mintrayr/
15:41:03 <iLobster> at least for it working fine
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15:44:19 <iLobster> *at least for me it working fine
15:44:39 <deOmega> oh, great. thanks
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15:49:12 <deOmega> ok, that   version is working thus far.. thank you again
15:50:00 <deOmega> my status message has been resetting after restart,  but will   try to see if  it is consistently the case
15:56:05 <Amfi> Is this tutorial up to date? https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Creating_a_smiley_theme
15:57:09 <Amfi> I mean, this pack (https://addons.instantbird.org/en-US/instantbird/addon/212) was created based on the tut and it seems not to work on my IB
15:57:37 <Amfi> I have created my own set and it is also not being shown properly...
16:44:51 <Mic> it's not working with respect to what?
16:45:07 <Mic> Does it appear in the list or doesn't it show the icons then?
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16:46:42 <Mic> here's the default smiley theme.js file, check whether you have any significant differences
16:46:43 <Mic> http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/file/699fadea4d81/instantbird/themes/smileys/theme.js
16:47:40 <Mic> (brackets?, commas?)
16:50:36 <Mic> About the MSN smilie pack: the review comment states the problem:
16:50:52 <Mic> "The method for producing smiley themes was changed with 0.2 Beta 1. In the theme.js file, change "texts" to "textCodes" and repackage. (by patrickjdempsey)"
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17:12:22 <Amfi> The MSN package has got updated (tests were changed to textCodes) and it still is not working
17:13:16 <Amfi> The name is being displayed in the properties window but neither preview nor the smileys in the messages are being shown
17:25:30 <Amfi> Oh right, I know where the problem is. Non-English characters are not handled properly within the theme.js file...
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19:00:06 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/928a97d3e3e4 - Florian Quèze - Add id attributes to the statusbar XUL elements, so that add-on authors can use them as hooks.
19:00:07 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/8acf0c20612f - Florian Quèze - Avoid displaying 'Your account is disconnected.' in conversations when the account wasn't connected before the disconnection (= it was attempting to connect).
19:00:08 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/224a8b3cac90 - Florian Quèze - Set the connect server to talk.google.com by default for the Google Talk protocol.
19:00:09 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/83fa5662591a - Florian Quèze - Fix Crash [@ idle_reporting_pref_cb in oscar.c] (regression from b256d8544bc5)
19:00:10 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/f208e38a378c - Florian Quèze - Don't display the default variant twice in the list of message themes variant (fix regression from 98580df13744).
19:00:11 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/ca0527f04647 - Florian Quèze - Fix Crash [@purpleNetworkObserver::IsNetworkAvailable]
19:00:12 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/cd9a059e2581 - Florian Quèze - The Offline status should take precedence over the idleaway status.
19:01:14 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 96 to FIXED.
19:01:16 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96 nor, --, 0.2b2, florian, RESO FIXED, Can't connect to Google Talk accounts from Google Apps.
19:01:24 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 255 to FIXED.
19:01:26 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=255 nor, --, 0.2b2, nobody, RESO FIXED, "Your account is disconnected" message loops when connexion fail
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19:41:07 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 349 filed by leeraccount@yahoo.de.
19:41:11 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=349 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Concatenate shortly arriving messages in notifications
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20:06:40 <Mic> flo: it seems from the css file that the offline icon should be shown when a buddy is invisible
20:07:03 <Mic> Actually it's showing the away icon instead
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20:28:43 <deOmega> flo: sent another crash report
20:29:12 <deOmega> same situation.. status messagge when away was checked
20:29:21 <deOmega> additionally..
20:29:37 <deOmega> away message rather
20:29:54 <deOmega> additionally... my status message  becamemy away message
20:40:22 <flo> 21:28:43 - deOmega: I fixed the crash of your first report
20:40:40 <deOmega> awesome.. thanks
20:40:52 <flo> thanks for reporting it so quickly
20:41:08 <deOmega> You are welcoome
20:41:09 <flo> by the way, it's related to the oscar (AIM and ICQ) protocol plugin
20:41:32 <flo> so it's likely that if you disconnect your AIM account first, then you can change the value of the pref without crashing, and reconnect the account
20:42:35 <deOmega> ah... ok..after that first crash, it  was ot connecting to AIM, i had to stop the connection attempt and rety and that resolved it
20:42:50 <deOmega> will see how it goes tomorrow.. thanks
20:45:04 <flo> Mic: hmm. Which icon are you talking about?
20:46:12 <Mic> The buddy list status icon (while I haven't checked, I would expect the tab status icon to be the same)
20:46:28 <flo> so how do you see an invisible buddy?
20:46:59 <Mic> On  some clients you can set an option like "Visible to this contact" (Trillian for exmaple)
20:47:27 <Mic> It appears on the buddy list, has "Status: invisible" on the tooltip and the away icon
20:47:45 <Mic> (I'm using two different ICQ accounts in this case)
20:48:30 <Mic> Anything else?
20:48:33 <flo> yeah, I thought it was more "on some protocols" than "on some clients", and I guessed it was ICQ.
20:49:34 <Mic> ok, off again
20:49:36 <Mic> ttyl
21:16:09 <iLobster> nn
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21:22:42 <flo> good night
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