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00:21:39 <-- DetroitLibertyPenguin has left #instantbird () 01:07:26 <-- stevo has quit (Ping timeout) 02:07:31 <-- Mook_sb has quit (Quit: gone) 06:33:58 <-- Mitch has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-2009122123 [SeaMonkey 2.0.2/20100104163003]) 06:34:07 <flo> I think the answer to Mook_sb's question is yes. 07:15:05 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 07:32:53 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b2pre) 09:07:07 --> Amfi has joined #instantbird 09:14:56 <-- Even has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b2pre) 09:23:06 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 09:23:17 <Mic> hello 09:26:16 <Morian> hi Mic 09:31:48 --> flo has joined #instantbird 09:31:48 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 09:32:13 <flo> hi :) 09:32:17 <Morian> hey 09:52:21 <Mic> The software update dialog is shared among Mozilla based products or is it application specific? 09:52:28 <flo> shared 09:52:33 <Mic> ok, thanks 09:53:09 <flo> you hoped to change something in it? 09:53:54 --> Even has joined #instantbird 09:53:54 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 09:55:34 <Mic> No, I'm just going to report a bug 09:57:47 <flo> if you report a bug to mozilla that is visible in instantbird, don't hesitate to CC: me on the bug 09:57:58 <flo> my bugzilla email on bugzilla.mozilla.org is florian@queze.net 09:58:22 <Mic> I don't know 10:00:16 <Mic> https://bug541331.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=422936 10:00:25 <Mic> It's just mis-sized dialog 10:02:05 <flo> ouch 10:02:13 <flo> it's surprising that they haven't tested that 10:02:50 <flo> the "Die neue Version herunter<something>" seems like a long translation for "Download now" 10:03:34 <-- Mic has quit (Connection reset by peer) 10:04:17 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 10:05:58 <Mic> Much more annoying: most recently Firefox and Thunderbird hang after closing them, memory consumption is constant, cpu load 100% in most cases :S 10:06:35 <flo> for how long? 10:06:58 <Mic> Until I kill the processes as far as I can tell 10:11:53 <Mic> Let's see if the problem persists with Firefox 3.6 10:25:43 <-- SM0TVI has quit (Quit: Hi. I'm a quit message virus. Add me to your configuration file, and help me take over the world of IRC.) 10:27:47 --> vicnet has joined #instantbird 10:34:45 --> SM0TVI has joined #instantbird 10:38:31 --> Troy has joined #instantbird 10:48:22 <flo> Mic: are you close to having a version of the status bar patch that we could check-in? 11:01:51 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 11:08:42 <Mic> no 11:08:45 <Mic> how urgent is it? 11:10:02 <flo> If we want to have it in 0.2beta2 (which I hope we will release at the end of the month)... we will need to check it in soon so that we have test it and fix the minor issues in a nightly or two 11:10:26 <flo> *have time to 11:16:14 <-- Troy has quit (Connection reset by peer) 11:19:12 --> Wareczek has joined #instantbird 11:23:43 --> Troy has joined #instantbird 11:47:38 <flo> uhuh, Firefox just updated on powerbird 11:47:51 <flo> "You are now using Firefox 3.0.15" :-S 11:48:26 <flo> and if I check for updates, it downloads 3.0.17 :-S 11:53:16 <flo> then 3.0.17 downloads 3.5.7 11:53:18 <-- Wareczek has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b2pre) 11:57:16 <flo> which finally downloads 3.6 11:59:02 <-- Mic has quit (Ping timeout) 12:04:47 --> Wareczek has joined #instantbird 12:04:51 <Amfi> flo: you got a while? 12:05:12 <flo> not now, sorry. I've got to go. I'll be back in less than an hour 12:05:33 <Amfi> oh right, i'll try to catch you then 12:06:14 <-- Wareczek has left #instantbird () 12:07:58 <-- Amfi has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 12:20:32 <Troy> Hi flo 12:23:26 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 12:33:16 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 12:59:04 --> mircMIC has joined #instantbird 13:03:28 <-- mircMIC has quit (Quit: ...) 13:05:48 <flo> Troy: I forgot to push my changes yesterday evening, sorry :( 13:06:33 <Troy> flo: maybe now? 13:06:46 <-- vicnet has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b2pre) 13:06:56 --> Amfi has joined #instantbird 13:11:13 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 318 filed by leeraccount@yahoo.de. 13:11:15 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Check if topic on IRC channels is editable and make UI respond accordingly 13:25:18 --> Mitch has joined #instantbird 14:10:48 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/cb6d5feadbfc - Florian Qu?ze - Fix handling of the 'Variant' preference menulist in the Themes prefpane. 14:10:49 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/696561de58d4 - Florian Qu?ze - Allow formatted messages by default. 14:10:50 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/a0f9e5524b06 - Florian Qu?ze - [Mac] Make sure the selected conversation tab is of the same color as the title bar even on Snow Leopard. 14:10:51 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/56ab68db2e4d - Florian Qu?ze - Leave the alias mode when the selection in the buddy list changes. 14:10:52 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/741f82f51008 - Florian Qu?ze - Don't leave the aliasing mode when another window takes focus. 14:10:53 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/1e33ac21b3e6 - Florian Qu?ze - Remove unused duplicateBookmarkMsg string. 14:10:54 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/289027844280 - Florian Qu?ze - Fix metadata of the default UI theme. 14:31:37 * Troy is now known as Central 14:40:25 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 14:46:49 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 15:06:04 --> Ruyan has joined #instantbird 15:09:22 <Ruyan> Hi, what else except purplexpcom do I need, if i want use it on my own client? because i see some header files which is not in purplexpcom. 15:10:02 <flo> are you trying to compile it? 15:12:40 <Ruyan> instantbird? i have already compiled 15:13:10 <flo> I don't understand your question then 15:14:13 <Ruyan> in purplexpcom there is director src, i guess its used to connect to libpurple 15:15:56 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 15:16:06 <flo> purplexpcom is the xpcom component making libpurple usable from JavaScript 15:16:51 <Ruyan> there is some header like nsMemory, nsScore, which is under /mozilla/xpcom, for what is it? when i put all of purplexpcom into my program, i need also all files from /mozilla/xpcom? 15:17:49 <flo> to compile purplexpcom, you need to have a mozilla build around 15:21:36 <Ruyan> so i don't have worry about headers like nsMemory.h, nsScore.h, nsNetUtil.h etc. its included in the mozilla build? 15:21:56 <flo> it's in the mozilla SDK 15:22:30 <Ruyan> aha, i thought it's not included 15:27:11 * Central is now known as Troy_Away 15:27:40 * flo is looking for an irc channel with lots of people talking quickly (for a test), any idea of where I can go? 15:42:49 <flo> I'm doing an experiment of graphical visualization of an IRC conversation, here's what I got: http://queze.net/goinfre/canvas-irc2.png 15:46:39 --> DetroitLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 15:49:50 <Mic> haha, I like the joke on the fifth line :P 15:54:34 <Mic> flo: what areyou displaying there? 15:57:16 <flo> each circle is a message (in an IRC channel) 15:57:36 <flo> the radius of the circle depends on the length of the message (it's the log of the length) 15:57:43 <flo> the color is the same as the color in the nicklist 15:58:35 <Mic> And the position? 16:00:58 <flo> there's a dot moving randomly 16:01:16 <flo> (the grey things) 16:01:47 <flo> the circle is drawn at the place where the dot is when the message arrives 16:02:16 <flo> this way, when there are circles close to each other, you can see there were people likely interacting 16:03:29 --> stevo has joined #instantbird 16:04:43 * Troy_Away is now known as Central 16:11:44 <flo> http://queze.net/goinfre/canvas-irc4.png :) 16:17:00 <-- stevo has quit (Client exited) 16:20:56 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/59e22ea5c303 - Florian Qu?ze - Remove duplicated strings. 16:29:57 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b2pre) 16:41:59 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 16:47:42 <flo> vicnet volunteers to be the French translators :) 16:48:28 <Mic> Was that an announcement or a decision? ;) 16:49:07 <flo> he says "both" 16:49:12 <flo> (he's in the office) 16:49:43 <Mic> hehe, nice 17:01:55 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 17:04:09 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 17:06:50 <flo> gtg 17:06:57 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b2pre) 17:09:30 --> stevo has joined #instantbird 18:01:12 <-- Amfi has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 18:29:09 <-- DetroitLibertyPenguin has quit (Ping timeout) 19:10:17 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 19:16:24 <-- Central has quit (Connection reset by peer) 19:48:33 <-- Ruyan has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) 20:27:29 --> flo has joined #instantbird 20:27:29 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 20:36:23 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 20:36:52 <-- idechix has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b2pre) 20:36:55 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 20:55:24 --> DetroitLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 21:01:38 <DGMurdockIII> what up guys 21:12:34 * Mic idles. 21:13:19 * flo has got a polish language pack to test 21:13:40 <Mic> well, actually I don't: trying to get some decent result on the account status bar and maybe fixing a bug later 21:14:35 <flo> heh :) 21:16:10 <Mic> The use system colors bug is strange btw .. it seems the settings get loaded before the color dialog is opened yet 21:17:35 <Mic> If I change the connected setting (use_system_color) from the pref window (ie outside), it doesn't affect the "use system color" checkbox 21:18:06 <Mic> Only after the pref window is closed and opened again it shows the new state 21:26:32 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> is file sending broken? 21:26:33 <flo> I didn't get that, sorry. But it may be related to my tiredness ;) 21:27:06 <flo> DLP: is it possible to break something that has never been implemented yet? 21:32:12 <DGMurdockIII> i did not now the fie transfer was implmented yet 21:32:33 <flo> DGMurdockIII: it isn't 21:32:48 <DGMurdockIII> yeah i now 21:36:02 <Mic> Video chats seem to be broken too :/ 21:36:20 <flo> mind reading too, unfortunately 21:53:13 <DGMurdockIII> is the install for windows ready to be tested 21:53:15 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> flo:nope, apparently this is the first time I've tried to send a file in the 2+ years I've been using IB, that's kinda surprising come to think of it 21:55:00 <flo> so you've just discovered that it's not a very useful feature, because it's often so broken that nobody can really rely on it? 21:55:48 <flo> I've argued several times with Even on whether we should support file transfer like pidgin does, even though it will only very rarely work; or if we should take our time to do something that really works 21:56:40 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> well of course I think we should do something that works, not rely on broken code from somwhere else, but that's easy for me to say... 21:57:33 <DGMurdockIII> what the easest methed to get file transfer implmented 21:57:40 <DGMurdockIII> in to instbird 21:57:51 <DGMurdockIII> instantbird* 21:58:11 <flo> DGMurdockIII: send the file as an email attachment :-P 21:59:23 <DGMurdockIII> no i ment eather the pidgin way or doing somthing that works 22:00:32 <DGMurdockIII> I thijnk you could use the pidgin way but fix it so it actally works correctly 22:00:49 <flo> DetroitLibertyPenguin: it's not only the code that is broken, but the whole idea of expecting to find a way to connect directly the 2 persons talking 22:02:32 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> right, file transfer is good...when I was in college we used to always send files by AIM cuz it was faster than email, or CD-R, or the infared file transfer built int our ThikPads 22:04:10 <flo> but you were inside the same private network? 22:04:13 <-- DetroitLibertyPenguin has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b2pre) 22:06:53 <DGMurdockIII> 2(flo2): did you ever finshes the installer for windows 22:06:58 <flo> yes 22:07:07 <flo> I gave a link for people to test it a few days ago 22:07:19 <DGMurdockIII> i gess i missed that 22:07:28 <DGMurdockIII> can i get the link 22:07:42 <DGMurdockIII> will you also make one for mac 22:07:46 <flo> http://queze.net/goinfre/instantbird-0.2b2pre.en-US.win32.installer.exe 22:08:20 <flo> no, on Mac we have always had a .dmg bundle that is exactly like what firefox does. 22:08:30 <DGMurdockIII> ok 22:09:04 <DGMurdockIII> what is setting/ profile saved as in the instant bird profile 22:13:39 <DGMurdockIII> 2(flo2): now why cant i rename buddies 22:13:58 <flo> because that's an old build 22:14:14 <flo> installers are not yet created automatically for nightlies 22:14:23 <DGMurdockIII> i tryed to update but it wont update 22:14:27 <flo> I built that installer on my own computer 22:14:53 <DGMurdockIII> ok 22:15:03 <DGMurdockIII> i got you 22:15:14 <DGMurdockIII> that what i thougt would happen 22:17:00 <flo> there will be installers for each nightly once Even do the related changes on the automatic nightly creation process 22:17:24 <flo> but currently he already has lots of things to do with the server migration, and the language packs 22:25:52 <DGMurdockIII> ok 22:34:02 <flo> good night :) 22:38:23 <-- idechix has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b2pre) 22:49:25 <-- Mitch has quit (Connection reset by peer) 22:49:55 --> Mitch has joined #instantbird 22:50:00 <-- Mitch has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-2009122123 [SeaMonkey 2.0.2/20100104163003]) 22:58:22 --> vicnet has joined #instantbird 23:17:46 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 23:31:25 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: get satisfied! :: www.unitedservers.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 23:37:01 --> Mitch has joined #instantbird 23:37:21 <Mic> nn 23:38:26 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b2pre) 23:50:18 <-- vicnet has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b2pre)