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I wonder how it will look like with the menubar being there 11:24:07 <flo> br 11:24:09 <flo> +br 11:24:22 <flo> oups, sorry 11:24:25 <flo> I meant "no" 11:24:33 <flo> but my keyboard was accidentally switched to dvorak :-S 11:25:06 <flo> at this point I'm mostly focusing on the user interaction 11:25:13 <flo> it's too early to spend time adapting for all OSes 11:39:37 <flo> Other opinions on these 2 pictures? 11:41:32 <Mic> If you want to show a menu or panel when clicking the status icon, it might be a good idea showing an arrow on it 11:43:08 <Mic> To make it self evident that there is an action possible and what will happen (ie it will pop up a menu) 11:52:08 <flo> I think I'll put tooltiptexts everywhere to explain the possible actions, but that may not be enough 11:52:40 <flo> I'm a bit resistant to the idea of the arrow above the status icon because it would make it a lot less readable. 11:52:48 <flo> Or maybe we can do it only when it is hovered 11:56:55 <Mic> If the status icon gets replaced by something more detailed, it would definitely affect the readability 11:57:15 <flo> for idle the clock has arrows 11:57:45 <Mic> I thought of an arrow at the bottom right, not centered .. 11:57:51 <Mic> anyways, I'm off to a meeting 11:58:07 <flo> ok, ttyl 13:14:25 --> Amfidiusz has joined #instantbird 13:35:01 <-- Amfidiusz has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 14:03:16 --> Amfidiusz has joined #instantbird 14:08:52 <Mic> re 14:08:53 <-- Amfidiusz has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 14:09:09 <Mic> bah .. finally finished 14:10:01 <flo> the meeting? :) 14:10:58 <Mic> yes 14:27:59 <flo> Mic: I'm doing a winXP version of the mockup just for you ;) 14:28:27 <Mic> Thanks 14:28:43 <Mic> I'm just curious how it comes out when you've got other things on the window 14:28:47 <Mic> (ie menubar) 14:29:19 <Troy> flo... maybe win7 for me ;) 14:29:26 <flo> no :-P 14:35:39 --> Amfidiusz has joined #instantbird 14:36:08 <Amfidiusz> Hi everyone :) 14:36:16 <flo> hi :) 14:36:49 <Amfidiusz> I guess I need your help in order to understand some things.. 14:37:06 <Amfidiusz> I've just started working on the translation of IB 14:37:28 <Amfidiusz> and am wondering when and why the '&' symbol is used in the strings? 14:37:28 <-- Troy has quit (Connection reset by peer) 14:37:49 <flo> do you have examples? 14:38:00 <flo> if it's in libpurple, it's probably for accesskeys 14:38:24 <Amfidiusz> It's in instantbird folder.. 14:38:50 <Amfidiusz> we've got like "Remove $BrandFullName from your computer." but a few lines below "&Remove my $BrandShortName personal data and customizations" 14:39:06 <Amfidiusz> I have no idea how should I treat it.. 14:39:17 <flo> ok, that's in the installer code 14:39:24 <Amfidiusz> yeah 14:39:41 <flo> maybe you can look at how it's handled for Firefox? 14:40:12 <Amfidiusz> ok, i'll try to check the ff translation 14:40:16 <flo> http://hg.mozilla.org/l10n-central/pl/file/2287fcc72fba/browser/installer 14:40:24 <Amfidiusz> i'll let you know if i'll figure it out ;) 14:40:53 <flo> most of this file will be identical with the same file of Firefox or Thunderbird, so don't hesitate to copy&paste the identical parts ;) 14:41:01 <Amfidiusz> Was it so obvious that I'm Polish? :) 14:41:38 <flo> wanadoo.nl in your reverse DNS made me doubt 14:41:55 <flo> but your IRC nick is the same as one of the user account I created on the hg server for the polish locale ;) 14:42:15 <Amfidiusz> Oh, i see :) 14:42:31 <flo> :) 14:46:50 <flo> Mic: http://queze.net/goinfre/buddy-list-status-winxp.png 14:50:13 <Amfidiusz> OK, I have compared the Firefox installer with its language files and... I have absolutely no idea why the & symbol was placed there: http://i47.tinypic.com/14m719s.jpg --> http://i50.tinypic.com/23iba51.png 14:50:35 <Amfidiusz> I'm gonna leave it they made it in ff. Thanks for a tip! 14:50:43 <flo> It's the accesskey 14:51:00 <flo> if you press alt+this letter on your keyboard, if will click that checkbox automatically 14:51:30 <Amfidiusz> I wouldn't think about that :) Thanks! 14:51:49 <flo> no problem 14:51:53 <flo> don't hesitate to ask if you have questions 14:55:23 --> DetroitLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 15:07:33 <flo> Mic: another attempt: http://queze.net/goinfre/buddy-list-status-winxp3.png 15:31:38 <-- Amfidiusz has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 15:43:07 --> Amfidiusz has joined #instantbird 15:49:11 <-- Amfidiusz has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 16:00:50 --> Amfi has joined #instantbird 16:04:13 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 308 filed by florian@instantbird.org. 16:04:14 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=308 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Improve the behavior when a contact that is being renamed signs off 16:08:41 --> stevo has joined #instantbird 16:22:43 <-- DetroitLibertyPenguin has left #instantbird () 16:24:41 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 16:30:42 --> Troy has joined #instantbird 16:56:39 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 309 filed by florian@instantbird.org. 16:56:41 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=309 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Some system messages contain emoticons where they should not. 17:06:04 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 310 filed by florian@instantbird.org. 17:06:06 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=310 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, The 'add buddy' dialog should have a default group 17:12:56 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 311 filed by florian@instantbird.org. 17:12:58 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Selection serialization horribly slow when thousands of messages are selected 17:15:09 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 312 filed by florian@instantbird.org. 17:15:10 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=312 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Dragging text from a conversation should use our custom selection serialization algorithm 17:20:23 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 313 filed by florian@instantbird.org. 17:20:24 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=313 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, There should be a key binding to temporarily bypass the magic serialization used when copying 17:24:29 <Troy> hoh 17:27:27 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 314 filed by florian@instantbird.org. 17:27:28 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, overlapping selection ranges can mess-up the selection serialization 17:34:00 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 315 filed by florian@instantbird.org. 17:34:02 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=315 tri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Bad copy when copying the nick of an action (/me) message 17:39:13 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 316 filed by florian@instantbird.org. 17:39:14 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=316 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, The selection serialization code should be able to handle consecutive messages differently 17:39:43 <flo> ok, I've filed all the bugs related to selection serialization/magic copy&paste that I'm aware of! :) 17:45:39 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b2pre) 17:51:44 <Morian> instantbot: stop flooding 17:51:46 <instantbot> Morian: Sorry, I've no idea what 'stop flooding' might be. 18:10:39 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 18:20:42 <Troy> instantbot: stop 18:20:45 <instantbot> Troy: Sorry, I've no idea what 'stop' might be. 18:20:46 <instantbot> Troy: I WILL 18:20:54 <Troy> oh 18:24:08 <Troy> Morian: Hi 18:25:03 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 18:26:19 <-- Amfi has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 18:27:42 <instantbot> New Websites - www.instantbird.com bug 317 filed by tymerkaev@gmail.com. 18:27:44 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=317 maj, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, instantbird.com website show 2007-2009 copyrights (maybe 2007-2010?) 18:28:24 <Morian> Troy: hi 18:29:31 --> vicnet has joined #instantbird 18:29:48 <Troy> Morian: Today your Instantbird updated successfull? 18:34:03 <Morian> has tried yet 18:34:07 <Morian> hasn't 18:37:03 <-- vicnet has quit (Ping timeout) 18:42:57 <Mic> good evening 18:50:33 --> vicnet has joined #instantbird 18:56:31 <-- Troy has quit (Connection reset by peer) 19:24:04 --> flo has joined #instantbird 19:24:04 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 19:38:22 --> instantbot has joined #instantbird 19:38:22 topic changed by gravel.mozilla.org to "Ask questions about Instantbird here. Official website: http://www.instantbird.com. Latest release: 0.2b1. Read http://blog.instantbird.org/. Nightlies: http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/latest-trunk/ (testing purpose only), IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/." 19:38:22 * ChanServ sets mode +v instantbot 20:18:06 --> ecmuller has joined #instantbird 20:32:57 <Mic> How did it come that the bug lists ended up with a "Brainstorm" prefix on the wiki? :/ 20:44:10 <flo> uh, what? 20:50:19 <Mic> The prefwindow and tab-improvement articles.. 21:05:10 <flo> ah 21:05:35 <flo> that was because when we created theses pages, we were still brainstorming the details of these big features 21:58:53 --> Amfi has joined #instantbird 22:04:17 <flo> good night! :) 22:09:06 <Amfi> you too, man ;) 22:12:11 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 22:17:07 <-- Amfi has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 22:19:04 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Connection reset by peer) 22:20:31 <-- idechix has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b2pre) 22:21:34 --> GeekShado_ has joined #instantbird 22:28:00 <-- vicnet has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b2pre) 22:53:16 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b2pre) 23:14:25 <instantbot> leeraccount@yahoo.de set the Resolution field on bug 247 to DUPLICATE of bug 229. 23:14:27 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=247 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, Facebook plugin, continuing connection attempts lead to block from Facebook 23:14:28 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=229 min, --, 0.2b1, romain, RESO FIXED, Don't treat accounts immeadiately as connected 23:14:29 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 23:36:21 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b2pre) 23:39:23 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 23:40:35 <-- GeekShado_ has quit (Ping timeout) 23:44:00 --> Amfi has joined #instantbird