#instantbird log on 01 19 2010

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09:48:38 <flo> hi :)
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09:56:35 <Mic> hello
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10:58:16 <flo> Mic: I just edited the wiki page with the importance (in my opinion) of the various remaining items
11:12:24 <Mic> ok
11:12:57 <Mic> Would be nice to know which bugs on Bugzilla are blocking or at least wanted for 0.2 as well
11:13:17 <flo> I'll look at that too :)
11:13:29 <Mic> So we have a more or less complete list what is definitely to be done before
11:13:58 <Keller> Is it me, or everytime instandbird goes to load a contact list it freezes for a few seconds?
11:14:31 <flo> are you on Linux?
11:14:54 <Keller> Noo, Windows 7. 
11:15:39 <flo> ah. On Linux I know a bug that can cause that (that bug causes the whole application to freeze each time a sound is played)
11:16:43 <Keller> ah i see
11:17:00 <flo> you can try to disable the sounds and see if you can still reproduce
11:17:46 <Keller> Thats the thing, I disabled the sounds after i first ran ibird. ;o
11:17:55 <flo> ok
11:18:04 <flo> is this with a specific protocol, or with any protocol?
11:18:23 <Keller> Any protocol. 
11:18:40 <flo> which are the ones you use?
11:19:35 <Keller> Msn/aim. 
11:32:03 <flo> Mic: After glancing at the list of open bugs, I found 6 blocking, 11 wanted, 5 "nice to have"
11:32:30 <flo> I'll probably mark them. Not sure yet if I'll use flags or the status whiteboard
11:33:37 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 101 to FIXED.
11:33:38 <flo> looking at the whole list is a nice opportunity to do some cleanup
11:33:39 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101 enh, --, 0.2b2, florian, RESO FIXED, Contact alias
11:34:18 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 149 to WORKSFORME.
11:34:20 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO WORKSFORME, Linux version doesn't reboot when auto-update
11:41:33 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 209 to FIXED.
11:41:36 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209 min, --, 0.2b2, florian, RESO FIXED, nickname colors are ugly in chat conversations
11:43:04 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 275 to WONTFIX.
11:43:07 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=275 min, --, ---, nobody, RESO WONTFIX, Change name of Options "Theme" to "Style".
11:49:44 * flo would be happy to resolve bug 251 as INCOMPLETE, but thinks it should still wait a bit
11:49:47 <instantbot> flo: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=251 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, unable to authenticate : unknown error
11:52:40 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 253 to INVALID.
11:52:42 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=253 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO INVALID, Bold text in conversation window.
11:53:35 <flo> bug 258 is a nice candidate for INCOMPLETE too
11:53:38 <instantbot> flo: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Improper English grammar in alert message.
11:55:22 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 290 to FIXED.
11:55:23 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted blocking0.2 on bug 290.
11:55:24 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290 maj, P2, ---, florian, RESO FIXED, Unable to connect to AIM.
12:05:48 <flo> Mic: ok, I used the status whiteboard
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16:00:00 <Mic> ok
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16:41:16 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 297 filed by florian@instantbird.org.
16:41:18 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=297 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, The theming of the textbox used to edit buddy aliases should be improved.
16:44:39 <instantbot> New purplexpcom - General bug 298 filed by florian@instantbird.org.
16:44:41 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=298 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, UpdateServerAlias uselessly called when the user aliases a buddy
16:48:21 <instantbot> New purplexpcom - General bug 299 filed by florian@instantbird.org.
16:48:22 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=299 tri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, mozStorage statement reset twice in purpleBuddy::UpdateServerAlias
16:57:27 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 300 filed by florian@instantbird.org.
16:57:29 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=300 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Add an array of all the displayed messages
17:04:32 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 301 filed by florian@instantbird.org.
17:04:34 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=301 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Remove old messages
17:11:05 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 302 filed by florian@instantbird.org.
17:11:07 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Dynamic theme switching
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17:17:50 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 303 filed by florian@instantbird.org.
17:17:52 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=303 tri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Speed-up theme loading
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17:25:06 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 304 filed by florian@instantbird.org.
17:25:09 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=304 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Add support for emoticon file with absolute URLs
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17:32:20 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 305 filed by florian@instantbird.org.
17:32:22 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Add support for SVG emoticons
17:41:25 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 306 filed by florian@instantbird.org.
17:41:27 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=306 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Emoticons are not displayed when a message is displayed several times
17:41:37 <flo> It takes a lot of time to file bugs :(
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18:15:43 <DGMurdockIII> when is the messaging window ui going to be worked on
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19:57:32 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 307 filed by leeraccount@yahoo.de.
19:57:34 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=307 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Restoring session after restart
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20:35:27 <Mic> Maybe we should change the computation of the nickname color
20:36:33 <Mic> Right now it is likely that people with nicknames that start with the same letter get similiar colors assigned
20:37:19 <Mic> Should be the other way around
20:53:37 <Mic> flo: disabled themes (I'm not sure about incompatible) appear in the drop down list right now
20:54:38 <Mic> I think we should mark them as such and disable their menuitem
21:24:05 <flo> Mic: if you manage to do it that's great
21:24:35 <Mic> I think it can be done, even though figuring out the disabled extensions is not so nice
21:24:52 <flo> I tried and failed. The addon manager code is terrible... We would need to read directly in the rdf file to know if the addon is disabled
21:25:23 <flo> I know they are going to rewrite a part (most?) of it for Firefox 3.7, so I hope it will be acceptable by then
21:25:31 <Mic> I think you can get the list of inactive extensions twice, one time including and one time excluding disabled extensions
21:26:01 <flo> hmm
21:26:04 * flo looks
21:26:40 <Mic> http://doxygen.db48x.net/mozilla/html/interfacensIExtensionManager.html#add2bfa2fe73ac0992051a48a92eecf31
21:26:51 <Mic> There is a flag "includeDisabled"
21:26:54 <Mic> I think it could do the job
21:27:51 <Mic> I didn't manage either to figure out how they tell whether an extension is disabled or not in the addon manager code :(
21:28:34 <flo> is the function you linked really getIncompatibleItemList ?
21:30:49 <Mic> yes
21:32:53 <flo> I fear it won't help then.
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21:33:45 <flo> It will return items that are "incompatible and disabled" and not include these that are "compatible and disabled"
21:34:24 <Mic> Are you certain?
21:37:01 <flo> look at the code when in doubt ;). http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/mozapps/extensions/src/nsExtensionManager.js.in#6676
21:40:55 <flo> Currently, we display a page with a clear error message instead of the preview for disabled themes, don't we?
21:40:58 <Mic> ok ..
21:41:27 <flo> I think it's an acceptable workaround for now
21:41:46 <flo> and for the case of safe mode (that disables all addons), it's probably the only thing that really makes sense
21:42:17 <flo> I don't think we want to force a reset of the theme preference each time someone starts in safe mode
21:44:32 <Mic> no, not at all
21:45:14 <Mic> I just think it would be nicer if the user would see right away which onces are not usuable
21:45:42 * flo agrees...
21:45:54 <flo> but I found no acceptable way to do it
21:56:18 <Mic> good night
21:57:43 <flo> good night :)
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