#instantbird log on 12 18 2009

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00:57:31 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 289 filed by romain@bezut.info.
00:57:34 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=289 min, --, 0.2b2, nobody, NEW, Javascript error when resetting the font size to default
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01:14:48 <instantbot> romain@bezut.info added attachment 259 to bug 289.
01:14:49 <instantbot> romain@bezut.info requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 259 on bug 289.
01:14:51 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=289 min, --, 0.2b2, romain, ASSI, Javascript error when resetting the font size to default
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02:06:22 <instantbot> New purplexpcom - General bug 290 filed by pjdkrunkt@lycos.com.
02:06:25 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Unable to connect to AIM.
02:22:24 <instantbot> romain@bezut.info requested blocking0.2 from the wind on bug 290.
02:22:26 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290 maj, P2, ---, nobody, NEW, Unable to connect to AIM.
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09:38:30 <flo> hi :)
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10:10:10 <Mic> Good morning
10:32:36 <flo> hi :)
10:35:13 <Mic> :)
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11:30:10 <Mitch> Hey, flo. The nightlies are screwed.
11:33:55 <Mic> HI Mitch
11:33:59 <Mic> *Hi
11:35:50 <Mitch> Hi.
11:37:46 <Mic> In which way are they 'broken'?
11:38:37 <Mic> Atleast they built sucessfully, but that's of little use if they e.g. fail to start ;)
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11:46:10 <Tro> hi
11:49:27 <Mitch> Mic: Huh? I thought they weren't built successfully. Where are you getting yours from?
11:52:34 <Mic> Wait aminute
11:52:55 <Mic> http://buildbot.instantbird.org/waterfall
11:53:30 <Mic> I wasn't able to check myself, just looked at the waterfall which seems to be allright
11:56:26 <Mic> http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/latest-trunk/
11:56:30 <Mic> Looks good as well
11:59:00 <Mic> What happened? Auto-update failed or such a thing?
12:02:17 <Mitch> Mic: Ah. I stumbled across one of flo's personal dirs with the same naming scheme. :P
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12:10:26 <Mic> Does it work for you now?
12:17:42 <Mitch> Yeah.
12:19:23 <Mic> :)
12:25:03 <flo> do you like the log viewer that was added yesterday? :)
12:27:59 <Mitch> I haven't got any logs to view.
12:28:08 * Mitch hasn't used Instantbird in a while
12:28:26 <Mitch> I like the Firefox-style options. Classy.
12:30:44 <Mitch> I wonder what Instantbird could have in Windows 7 jumplists.
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12:32:04 <Tro> flo, I liked
12:32:49 <Tro> But out one error
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12:36:15 <flo> Mitch: DGMurdock seems to be a fan of jumplists, he asks again and again about us supporting them :-D
12:37:24 <Mitch> flo: DGMurdock is a fan of shiny things, random words, and Google.
12:38:52 <flo> For his birthday, maybe we should create an addon querying a random somewhat fashion word in google, and pasting the 10 first results in a random IRC channel
12:39:12 <Mitch> hahaha
12:39:58 <Mitch> "Buzzword WTF Roulette".
12:39:58 <flo> could also work for the errors in the error console
12:40:16 <flo> though I'd rather make the addon pastebin instead of pasting directly in the IRC channel
12:40:30 <flo> in some cases, that could be really useful :)
12:59:48 <Mic> gtg
12:59:51 <Mic> Have a nice day
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14:19:46 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 259 on bug 289.
14:19:48 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=289 min, --, 0.2b2, romain, ASSI, Javascript error when resetting the font size to default
14:23:34 <Mitch> DetroitLibertyPenguin, your name sounds like a newspaper.
14:24:49 <Mitch> "Read all about it in today's Detroit Liberty Penguin."
14:56:16 * Morian_ is now known as Morian
15:01:42 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> oh well its supposed to be a political Icon 
15:03:05 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> as in http://www.thecreativefactory.com/Libertypenguin/aboutLP.html
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17:13:47 <iLobster> Greetings
17:26:58 <iLobster> that log viewer is pretty good =) , one more thing - "show offline buddies" and i'll be happiest user of instantbird =)
17:27:39 <stevo> iLobster: log viewer?
17:28:09 <stevo> oh ha yeah, kinda hard to see the offline ones :)
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17:31:00 <iLobster> stevo: viewer of histoiry of messages, in currient nightly build
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17:31:35 <stevo> iLobster: yeah just took me a sec :)
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19:01:13 <iLobster> new chatzilla with its new color scheme makes my eyes hurt =( so I deleted it, and completely switched to the use instantbird
19:01:42 <flo> :)
19:04:10 <iLobster> and flo, thanks for log viewer ;-)
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19:04:20 <flo> you are welcome :)
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19:04:36 <flo> poor ChatZilla
19:05:05 <stevo> it wouldn't be so bad if Chatzilla updated more, just not enough resources :(
19:05:29 <flo> isn't the code seriously rotted?
19:05:34 <flo> like venkman :(
19:06:03 <stevo> well, yeah, and not very easy to extend :(
19:06:56 <flo> it's sad for venkman (and DOM inspector too by the way)
19:07:13 <flo> for some (obvious?) reason, I won't cry for ChatZilla ;)
19:07:15 <stevo> considering those extensions are so bloody useful!
19:07:23 <stevo> ha ha! I wonder why?
19:07:59 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/4366f43c2c46 - Florian Qu?ze - Revert the sorting order of logs viewed from the buddy list to make it consistent with logs viewed from conversation tabs.
19:08:00 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/b1ac924f8571 - Romain Bezut - Bug 289 - Javascript error when resetting the font size to default. r=fqueze
19:08:01 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/42c40ada55ff - Florian Qu?ze - Fix regression from c0737335cb8d. (message theme previews used 'undefined' as senderColor).
19:08:12 <stevo> It might be nice to have IRC networks in separate windows from the normal IM chats, but keep the open rooms in that server on the same window...
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19:09:21 <stevo> GeekShadow, so how many add-ons have you made for instantbird?
19:09:57 <GeekShadow> stevo, hmmm 0 ! I just did a port of locale switcher addon :P
19:10:17 <GeekShadow> I may give a try during holiday :D
19:10:31 <stevo> that makes us even! should we race for the first one (has to be useful) :)
19:11:14 <GeekShadow> hmm there is a contest ?
19:11:34 <stevo> ha, just a friendly one between us, all to support open source mozilla apps!
19:12:02 <stevo> although I am not sure I will have much time unless I can get my app up and running a bit better.
19:12:39 <GeekShadow> stevo, I did enter the mobile contest of mozilla but didn't win with my entry
19:12:49 <stevo> what did you enter?
19:12:56 <GeekShadow> it was pretty useless :D samplerbox
19:13:33 <GeekShadow> I begin the port before knowing for the contest (hoping for one :p)
19:13:44 <stevo> nice
19:14:09 <stevo> GeekShadow: http://code.google.com/p/balancebook/
19:14:10 <GeekShadow> but it should be improved, using html5 <audio>
19:14:30 <GeekShadow> stevo, yep I saw that :D
19:14:38 <stevo> your to fast man
19:14:46 <GeekShadow> I also you are making experimentals feather for songbird
19:15:03 <stevo> I got it to build on OS X and windows, so now I need to get started on the core.
19:15:16 <stevo> yeah, bird box might be neat, using toolbars :)
19:15:48 <GeekShadow> I also have my own xulrunner app project :)
19:15:56 <GeekShadow> a steam clone
19:16:04 <stevo> nice :)
19:16:08 <GeekShadow> with both open source and commercials games
19:46:26 <flo> stevo: I'm not sure I understood what you want with IRC, but if you just want to have chatrooms in a window and IMs in another, there's an option for that in the pref window
19:47:21 <stevo> the use separate windows for Multi-User chats?
19:48:22 <stevo> hmm, yeah that works :) cool
19:48:51 <flo> :)
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20:00:24 <Mic> hi
20:16:17 <Morian> hi Mic
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20:57:11 <idechix> instantbot: hi!
20:57:12 <instantbot> hi idechix
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21:01:44 <idechix> instantbot: hiiiiii !
21:01:48 <instantbot> idechix: Sorry, I've no idea what 'hiiiiii' might be.
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21:04:29 <idechix> instantbot: hey!
21:04:30 <instantbot> yo idechix
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21:08:27 <idechix> instantbot: how are you today?
21:08:31 <instantbot> idechix: Sorry, I've no idea what 'how are you today' might be.
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21:15:19 <idechix> instantbot: hello
21:15:20 <instantbot> salut idechix
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21:28:06 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/b28554eca9b0 - Florian Qu?ze - Use hsl values for senderColor in conversations (back to the behavior before c0737335cb8d).
21:28:37 <flo> Morian: by the way, why does instantbot announce the check-ins in every channels?
21:28:58 <Morian> every channels ?
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21:29:16 <Morian> flo: instantbot is only on this channel
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21:29:37 <flo> I invited it in #testib so that idechix can do his tests without spamming too much here
21:31:28 <Mic> flo: is it technically possible to rename accounts?
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21:35:30 <DGMurdockIII> flow: on the last blog post i dont think you made it clear what the e-mail address was i got the the part afterthe @ is instantbird.org but what the bigging part if i having a hard time figering out what it is im sure other are to
21:35:58 <flo> Mic: the account name is stored on 2 different places
21:36:21 <flo> but if you change it in both places, the new name should be used correctly after restarting the application
21:36:31 <DGMurdockIII> instantbird is having a hard time updating it all it doing is pausing the updates and i did not pause them
21:36:41 <DGMurdockIII> wont let me unpause them
21:37:38 <flo> that's bug 285
21:37:42 <instantbot> flo: Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=285 blo, --, ---, nobody, RESO WORKSFORME, Nightly builds of Instantbird are no longer updating
21:37:49 <flo> we don't know the cause yet
21:38:03 <flo> we just know that lots of people are having this issue :(
21:40:36 <DGMurdockIII> have you tryed geting help from other mozilla dev to se if they can point you in the right direction becose this has happend before but but you always seem to fix but it always seem to come back this is like the 4 or 5th time it happens
21:40:56 <DGMurdockIII> since iv been using instantbird
21:41:49 <DGMurdockIII> yes i now nightly build will have some broblems but i would think at least this issue would have been fixed
21:44:19 <DGMurdockIII> I like this idea
21:44:24 <DGMurdockIII> http://wiki.instantbird.org/Brainstorm:feedback
21:47:44 <flo> well, we have had broken nightlies a few times in the past
21:47:58 <flo> but this is not a case of broken nightlies or broken updates. Both are ok.
21:48:16 <flo> it's just that randomly the local installation of the application becomes unable to update successfully.
21:48:29 <flo> we don't know why...
21:51:05 <Mic> On which systems does it happen?
21:51:10 <Mic> All/any?
21:51:22 <flo> all
21:51:57 <flo> it happened 2 or 3 times to me on my mac, idechix had it on Ubuntu, and there a few Windows user complaining
21:52:41 <DGMurdockIII> me windows 7 64bit
21:52:52 <idechix> I had it on windows XP 32bits too
21:53:44 <flo> bugs that we can't reliably reproduce are a pain :(
21:55:25 <DGMurdockIII> i'll download a fresh nightly
21:55:39 <DGMurdockIII> and just put it in the folder im currently using
21:55:48 <DGMurdockIII> that what iv done before
21:55:59 <flo> you can try to delete the file active-update.xml if it exists
21:56:08 <DGMurdockIII> ok
21:56:17 <DGMurdockIII> i'll try that first
21:56:17 <flo> sometimes that seem to fix the issue
21:57:32 <DGMurdockIII> i'll let you know if it works
21:57:47 <DGMurdockIII> im trying to update now
21:58:03 <DGMurdockIII> 41 sec left
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21:58:25 <DGMurdockIII> worked
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22:03:29 <Mic> Can anyone confirm the following problem:
22:04:49 <Mic> Changing the text and background color can result in incomplete repaint of the conversation browser
22:07:36 <DGMurdockIII> what do you mean
22:07:48 <DGMurdockIII> i did black and red and it worked fine
22:08:41 <DGMurdockIII> yes
22:09:04 <DGMurdockIII> your right if you right if the conversation window is allread open
22:09:17 <DGMurdockIII> then all i get is the text color to change
22:09:45 <DGMurdockIII> untill i open a new conversion window
22:17:09 <Mic> http://wiki.instantbird.org/images/b/b9/ColorChangeRepaint.png
22:17:51 <Mic> (before anyone asks: no, I'm not using these colors usually;)
22:19:08 <flo> that may be windows-only
22:19:13 <flo> I've never seen it
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22:26:15 <instantbot> New Instantbird (UI) bug 291 filed by leeraccount@yahoo.de.
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22:26:17 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=291 tri, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Repainting problem after changing conversation colours
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22:59:19 <flo> good night
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23:01:08 <Mic> Same for me
23:01:11 <Mic> Good night
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