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00:17:45 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Connection reset by peer) 00:18:07 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 00:22:18 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 01:49:36 <-- flo has quit (Ping timeout) 09:25:03 --> flo has joined #instantbird 09:25:04 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 09:25:43 <flo> hi ! :) 09:34:09 --> Troy has joined #instantbird 09:34:25 <Troy> hi ! :) 10:00:47 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 10:00:50 <Mic> Hi 10:35:18 <-- Troy has quit (Quit: See you later!) 10:36:26 <flo> Mic: is the smiley.css --> theme.css change only to add browser{ -moz-appearance: listbox; } ? 10:46:42 <Mic> yes 10:47:48 <flo> ok, then I think I'd rather put that in preference.css in the theme, not in content/ 10:48:16 <flo> also, I'm not sure that's the right thing to do for linux and Mac. I guess we'll need to try it to see if it looks good there :) 10:50:52 <flo> I don't like the code duplication of the loadAddMore function. Both links could use the same function, with a parameter 10:51:48 <flo> I was also looking at a way to use a single function for that and the engineManager, but a few details are a bit annoying (the function closes the engine manager after opening the link, the prefname is completely different, ...) 10:52:43 <flo> I think I'd like the pref name to be similar to: pref("extensions.getMoreThemesURL", "https://add-ons.instantbird.org/%LOCALE%/%APP%/%VERSION%/themes/"); 10:53:28 <flo> extensions.getMore(Emoticons|MessageStyles)URL, and an url starting with add-ons.ib.org and finishing with something explicit (I'll add the redirections on the server ;)) 10:54:52 <flo> I was also looking at the way it works in the add-on manager 10:55:15 <flo> apparently they format the URL when displaying the tab, and the hide the link if the url ends up being about:blank 10:55:20 <flo> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/mozapps/extensions/content/extensions.js#474 10:56:18 <flo> after that, the code used to open the link is openURL(this.getAttribute('getMoreURL')); at http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/mozapps/extensions/content/extensions.xul#261 10:56:30 <flo> the openURL function is at http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/content/contentAreaUtils.js#1031 10:56:49 <flo> not sure if that's better (or even interesting). Was just sharing my thoughts :) 10:57:00 <flo> lunch! :) 12:21:15 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 14:03:29 <-- DetroitLibertyPenguin has quit (Connection reset by peer) 14:10:50 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 14:19:03 --> flo has joined #instantbird 14:19:03 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 15:14:23 --> DetroitLibertyPenguin has joined #instantbird 16:03:58 <-- MattATobin has quit (Quit: QUIT - http://www.mattatobin.com/) 16:04:45 --> MattATobin has joined #instantbird 17:08:39 <flo> any native English speaker around? Is "Play sounds on messaging or buddy list events" correct/understandable? 17:13:57 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> Its a little coommbersome but I know what you are saying 17:14:35 <flo> Is it better than "Use sound for events such as receiving/sending an IM, or when a buddy signs on/off" that we had before? 17:15:06 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> I find Use sound for events... easier to understand 17:16:29 <flo> at this point that feature is not going to produce a sound for all events though :-/ 17:17:06 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> simply "Play Sounds" I would find suffienct 17:17:33 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> Unless we have different settings for each different sound 17:17:55 <flo> we will have in a later version (probably 0.3) 17:18:08 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> in thermory we could have PLAY SOUNDS and then when you select that you could have check boxes for each event, 17:18:32 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> but for now if we just have a sounds on or sound off, "play sounds" would be sufficient, I thing 17:18:43 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> *think 17:19:16 <flo> would some user wonder if the sounds are sound files sent by their contacts? 17:19:42 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> I couldn't imagine that confussion 17:22:01 * flo doesn't know what to do :-S 17:22:29 <flo> Is "Play sounds on messaging or buddy list events" better than "Use sound for events such as receiving/sending an IM, or when a buddy signs on/off" or not? 17:24:54 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> I don't think so, simply because I don't know if its clear what a messaing or buddy list even is, now ovviously once one changes this setting they'll quickly learn, so I don't think it really matters, but if your just trying to be less wordy, I would think "play sounds" would be just as clear as "play sounds on messing or buddy list events" IMHO 17:24:55 <flo> (I don't expect most users to read more than the first 2 words anyway ;)) 17:25:32 <DetroitLibertyPenguin> right 17:26:45 <flo> ok, I'll take that change for beta1, and we may (or may not) reconsider this later :) 17:27:08 <flo> thanks for the comments! :) 17:29:59 --> vicnet has joined #instantbird 17:31:31 --> Morian_ has joined #instantbird 17:32:55 <-- Morian has quit (Ping timeout) 17:42:03 --> instantbot has joined #instantbird 17:42:03 topic changed by sand.mozilla.org to "Ask questions about Instantbird here. Official website: http://www.instantbird.com. Latest release: 0.2a1. Read http://blog.instantbird.org/. Nightlies: http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/latest-trunk/ (testing purpose only), IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/." 17:42:03 * ChanServ sets mode +v instantbot 17:42:12 --> Morian has joined #instantbird 17:43:17 <-- Morian_ has quit (Ping timeout) 17:48:26 <flo> back later! 17:48:29 <-- flo has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 17:56:58 --> idechix has joined #instantbird 19:05:24 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 19:16:37 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 19:16:41 <DGMurdockIII> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Labs/Test_Pilot/ExperimentAPI 19:22:49 --> flo has joined #instantbird 19:22:50 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo flo 19:40:20 <DGMurdockIII> flo have you seen this https://wiki.mozilla.org/Labs/Test_Pilot/ExperimentAPI 20:36:25 <flo> the first (and hopefully also the last!) set of 0.2beta1 release candidate builds: http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/releases/0.2b1-candidates/2009-12-03-18-instantbird/ 20:39:24 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 20:41:43 <Mic> flo, DetroitLibertyPenguin: do you intend to be just less words on the sounds option or do you want something that sounds better than "Use sound.." (especially "Use sound" is strange in my ears) 20:42:14 <flo> Mic: it's too late, I checked in your original suggestion ;). 20:42:21 <Mic> ah, ok 20:42:41 <flo> and we have a set of beta1 release candidates ready for testing: http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/releases/0.2b1-candidates/2009-12-03-18-instantbird/ 20:46:58 <Mic> flo: on your openURL suggestion: I'm not sure if we need it here .. 20:47:19 <flo> I was typing as I was thinking. 20:47:37 <Mic> .. we're going to open an external browser in any case. So there's little use of checking if we need one or not 20:47:49 <Mic> If you don't intend to open a builtin-browser window 20:48:46 <flo> yes 20:49:36 <flo> just that's some code that we already have, and is shared across several applications (Firefox, Thunderbird), so the cost of having the check is very small 20:50:32 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 20:51:17 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 20:51:50 <flo> I think it's been months since the last time I started an Instantbird with the official logo on it! 20:54:53 <Mic> brb 20:54:54 <-- Mic has left #instantbird () 20:55:32 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 20:58:50 <Mic> What are the "pages" mentioned on Advanced Options->General->Accessibility 20:59:23 <flo> :( 20:59:25 <Mic> "Always use the cursor keys to navigate within pages" (= inside conversations)? 20:59:28 <flo> that's the content of conversations 20:59:51 <flo> that checkbox is the toggle for caret browsing (also works with the key F7) 21:00:16 <flo> as far as I know, that's the only way blind users can make a text selection 21:01:36 <Mic> Maybe we should change the wording on this 21:01:41 <flo> sure! 21:01:51 * flo suggests adding a line about that on the wiki page 21:02:57 <Mic> sure, don't hesitate to add one :P 21:03:07 <Mic> gtg (cinema) 21:03:23 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1) 21:15:24 <DGMurdockIII> mic: what about when you click on links in a website that are supposts to open a im mesage to someone with out you having to type in the name and you can send the im after message typed 21:16:23 <flo> you mean links like aim://screenaname ? 21:16:32 <DGMurdockIII> yes 21:17:00 <DGMurdockIII> i have one qustion why is there not a way send IM to person that not on you buddylist without having to add them to you buddy list 21:20:55 <flo> because nobody created a way to start such a conversation 21:20:58 <flo> that's a bug 21:21:18 <DGMurdockIII> dose pidgin support that 22:01:51 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 22:43:02 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: get satisfied! :: www.unitedservers.de ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» gamersirc.net ::) 22:57:59 <-- idechix has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 23:11:03 <-- DetroitLibertyPenguin has quit (Quit: Instantbird 0.2b1pre) 23:14:41 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 23:29:37 --> GeekShado_ has joined #instantbird 23:29:39 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 23:49:09 <flo> good night!